No. Only people who announce their 733t #@xor 5k177s or those who p0wn newbs.
Pfft..... 13375p34k died years ago. (*) I can't remember the last time I saw anyone use it non-ironically. Get with the plan, Gramps!
(*) Probably not coincidentally, I'd say it was around the time that it was getting so mainstream that newspapers were discovering it and explaining to their readers what those strange words their children were typing meant. It's *so* uncool when even your Mum knows all your nichey slang;-)
Where have you been? Apple is in the dog house, all the cool kids are turning a blind eye to Google's bullshit now.
Actually, though it's definitely true that a few years back Google was viewed almost entirely positively and the recipient of widespread uncritical fanboyism on Slashdot (circa 2000 to 2005 or thereabouts), I've noticed that this trend has declined significantly in the past few years.
That may have been the case at one point but it hasn't been true recently.
I suspect that this is the common misunderstanding of Moore's Law. Although Moore's itself refers to the number of transistors, until recently it *was* fair to say that the Moore's increases were accompanied by broadly comparable increases in computational speed, and most people assumed that Moore's referred to the latter, or at least implied it.
Although Moore's Law itself still hasn't been broken, the change in focus to multi-core processors (which I assume we both know *isn't* the same as a 2 or 4 times faster single core CPU) means that the commonly-assumed accompanying increases in true computational speed *has* been broken.
In fact, using inflationdata, the rate between then and now is 178.52%. In other words, you have no place slamming his math skills.
Huh? It was the original AC who claimed that the US inflation rate was 3x over that period, not Chris Mattern.
About the only thing Mattern has to apologise for is taking the word of someone who clearly didn't have a clue about inflation, i.e. insufficient fact-checking. Assuming that figure *had* been correct, Mattern's maths skills were perfectly fine.
And that still pales in comparison with the original guy's fundamental stupidity. Matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me if *he* was a troll...
good.. you go drive your electric go-cart, while the rest of us performance nuts will stick to our 600hp big iron
Dude, talk about delusions of grandeur if you think that any PC owned by a performance hobbyist is likely to qualify as "Big Iron" in *any* sense of the word.
Heh... the/web/ "wasn't as prominent back in the 90s as it was (say) in the early-2000s."
Yeah, but it was my observation and *I've* been on the web since '94. So there:-P
That disagreement aside, by roughly 2005 you could buy a PC in a black aluminum case with a clear side panel at the local bigbox here in Canada. So for me that was the final tombstone of the original scene; the original creative thrust had long peaked.
No contradiction here, it sounds like we were talking about different things. You had the true original scene in mind, whereas I was discussing the point where it was most prominent in the mainstream, the point at which it became cliched- around five years ago, as you suggest.
Sorry mods, but that troll wasn't "Informative". Modding was alive and well in the 90s.
Perhaps, but the OP broadly had a point- it wasn't as prominent back in the 90s as it was (say) in the early-2000s. Actually, I'd say that that the phenomenon peaked more recently than that- even in the early 2000s I thought that my computer would look quite interesting if you could see the insides all the time. Having come up with that idea independently (though it was a somewhat obvious one) and it seeming interesting and original at the time, it's likely that the off-the-shelf windows-and-cold-cathod-lighting cheesiness hadn't yet become prominent, let alone cliched at that point.
Wouldn't do it now for that reason though, even though the way I'd visualised it would have been way more tasteful. I swear;-)
But it appears you stand for their rights to abuse human beings, laws and ethics codes of all lands, in complete secrecy. So I understand why you don't agree.
Really? You drew that conclusion from the fact that he simply questioned whether or not this was a technological big deal and queried the expression "open source thinking"?
I've had this sort of thing happen myself before, and frankly it irritates me more every time I see it. You query one aspect of someone's argument and they feel entitled to assume that you're not only arguing against it (which might or might not be the case), but that you're in favour of everything they're opposed to.
I don't even believe that this is an intentional smear attempt in most cases- I believe it's the blinkered kneejerk reaction of the egotistical self-righteous, unable to accept that the pointing out of flaws in (e.g.) a silly argument, or even one aspect of something does *not* entitle you to assume that your opponent "OMG!!!!!1111111 SUPPORTS THE iNTERNATIONAL dEATH iNDUSTRY AND PUPPY STOMPERS!!!".
And for your benefit.... Disclaimer: The above does not necessarily mean that I agree with what Viol8 said there, let alone that I agree with every view he hold or expresses, nor think that we should do horrible things to small, cute animals.
Sure, I understood what you meant. Given that Amazon UK tend to sell you things like DVDs using their "preferred Jersey merchant" these days (for tax reasons, presumably), I wouldn't expect a warehouse much further north to factor into the equation, but I suppose with business logistics these days you can't assume too much!
They definitely do have at least one warehouse in Scotland- Glenrothes in Fife- but as you imply, whether that would be used for your delivery is unclear.
I guess deliveries from the "preferred Jersey merchant" are less likely to be affected by snow. But more likely to be affected by Nazi occupation of the territory...:-/
FWIW, the mysteriously-named "Jersey merchant" is actually Indigo Starfish, which I've heard some not entirely complimentary things about (mainly due to bad packaging on DVDs and the like), though they were okay when I ordered an ink cart, the only thing I've ever used them for personally. The envelope and receipt had the "Indigo Starfish" branding and Amazon's blurb makes clear that one's contract is with IS, not Amazon themselves.
Along with the fact that they're using their own identity for sending out "Jersey merchant" orders, and are a separate company, it's unlikely that Amazon are using them for their "own" orders as I've never had one of those with the Jersey customs declaration on it (nor been notified that it would be dispatched from Jersey, which I assume they'd have to do were this the case).
BTW, IIRC there used to be an "Amazon Jersey" and now there isn't, so I'm not sure what the story was there.
It's an auto-translated quote from Slashdot Japan, which you can visit via my "homepage" link. Whether the original word should be "verily" or not is unclear, as that quote (or rather its original Japanese source) is no longer on the Slashdot.jp home page.
I doubt that it was meant to be "verily" though- it's probably just a mangled translation of something that made sense in Japanese with the meaning of "very" (or something related) somewhere in there.
I don't see any excuse for having a week or more of backlog in delivery services in this region.
Well, I was trying to say that if something is being dispatched from a snowed-in warehouse based in Scotland, your delivery is still going to be delayed, regardless of whether the home counties are swanning around in a heatwave, knocking back Pimms and G&Ts or not:-)
As I said, I don't know where Amazon orders are generally dispatched from- I strongly suspect that popular items will be held at all their UK warehouses, but am less sure about the obscure stuff.
I can't comment on the 503s except to say that I didn't see one, but Amazon UK have yet to hit any of their estimated delivery dates for our household's orders over the past month or so
Not sure what's going on about deliveries, but there's been enough people in the office complaining about having not received deliveries from Amazon, and it's not like we've had any snow here either since the week before last, it was all melted off by last Monday so if they are overdue there doesn't really seem to be an excuse now.
Define "here". Parts of Scotland got a lot more snow in the middle of last week (whereas my part of Scotland- which got a lot the previous week- was unaffected despite being not that far away, so don't assume that your local area reflects the whole of the UK). It's possible that any Amazon operations based in Scotland may be affected. (I don't know if they store the same item at multiple warehouses and choose the most efficient one to dispatch from according to the customer's location- but if so I'd guess this would only apply to the better-selling items(?)).
At any rate, Parcelforce (the parcel branch of the Royal Mail) still have such a backlog here that they're refusing to take any further deliveries to Scottish addresses at present, even though there hasn't been further snow since and it appears to be getting removed.
Future proof? I'm still using my 3 years "old" laptop
I'm still using my 10+ years old laptop and I'm perfectly fine with it too:)
That's nothing. I'm still using my 24-year old Atari 800XL and I don't feel the need to upgrade at all. That said, I must admit I'm using a disk drive, as loading my web browser from a cassette would just be silly.
The question is, why should we take anyone blatantly misusing someone else's name like that seriously? And no, I don't believe that this user coincidentally has the same real-life name (or chose that user name independently).
In many setups, we are talking ten or hundreds of milliseconds. Not bad for starting an application, but unless apps claim exclusive us of the FPGA, then to quote Andy Dodd's post above: "context switching would be a real bitch".
Ha ha, yeah, oddly enough the multitasking and context-switching issues *had* occurred to me; I'm actually surprised that it would be that fast, to be honest!
Probably you'd require multiple FPGAs (possibly having a few simple ones instead of one complex one; not sure how much complexity would be required to get the best performance anyway, or whether the FPGA would be better suited to optimising particular taskt that could be done in a small amount of silicon).
Further, to get maximum possible performance likely requires exposing parts of the CPU to the fabric. A malicious application could potentially permanently damage the processor unless special step are taken.
OTOH *that* one hadn't occurred to me; if we were effectively wanting to do hardware versions of software I'm guessing it might be possible to include some restrictions. But at the same time that would probably cut out a massive swathe of potential. And as you suggest, it would be hard to design it so that a malicious app couldn't do damage somehow.
Interesting idea though- I'm sure that we will see it come to full mainstream fruition one day.
It means that intel has thrown an FPGA [wikipedia.org] into a normal CPU. FPGA's are highly programmable chips that are very fast in the thing they are programmed for. Changing the programming takes, by comparison, a lot of time and they usually can't do anything else than what they are programmed for.
I'm getting the impression that there may be some limitations on this FPGA, but the general concept of having a computer whose hardware itself can be reconfigured via a simple user-level program seems fascinating to me.
I came up with this idea myself a few years ago, and I think I mentioned it here. Not that I'm claiming credit for what is a fairly logical (well, bleeding obvious) extension of the FPGA concept when you think about it, and I'm sure that many others have come up with the same vague idea independently- but I'm surprised that going by the low level of discussion that even *more* people haven't thought about it.
Obviously, in raw terms the FPGA is going to be massively slower than a modern Intel/AMD x86 CPU (that is, if one was to pointlessly attempt to configure the FPGA into an x86 compatible CPU), but of course we're comparing the x86's fast execution of a program with the FPGA's equivalent functionality implemented in hardware.
And the interesting question is how hard and how fast would it be reconfigure, and could they get it to the stage where bog standard apps could speed themselves up by implementing algorithms as temporarily-dedicated hardware?
I'll admit I know bugger all about this, but it surprises me that there's not *more* discussion about it.
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No. Only people who announce their 733t #@xor 5k177s or those who p0wn newbs.
Pfft..... 13375p34k died years ago. (*) I can't remember the last time I saw anyone use it non-ironically. Get with the plan, Gramps!
;-)
(*) Probably not coincidentally, I'd say it was around the time that it was getting so mainstream that newspapers were discovering it and explaining to their readers what those strange words their children were typing meant. It's *so* uncool when even your Mum knows all your nichey slang
Where have you been? Apple is in the dog house, all the cool kids are turning a blind eye to Google's bullshit now.
Actually, though it's definitely true that a few years back Google was viewed almost entirely positively and the recipient of widespread uncritical fanboyism on Slashdot (circa 2000 to 2005 or thereabouts), I've noticed that this trend has declined significantly in the past few years.
While processing power doubles every 18 months
That may have been the case at one point but it hasn't been true recently.
I suspect that this is the common misunderstanding of Moore's Law. Although Moore's itself refers to the number of transistors, until recently it *was* fair to say that the Moore's increases were accompanied by broadly comparable increases in computational speed, and most people assumed that Moore's referred to the latter, or at least implied it.
Although Moore's Law itself still hasn't been broken, the change in focus to multi-core processors (which I assume we both know *isn't* the same as a 2 or 4 times faster single core CPU) means that the commonly-assumed accompanying increases in true computational speed *has* been broken.
"in dollars that are worth a third as much"
In fact, using inflationdata, the rate between then and now is 178.52%. In other words, you have no place slamming his math skills.
Huh? It was the original AC who claimed that the US inflation rate was 3x over that period, not Chris Mattern.
About the only thing Mattern has to apologise for is taking the word of someone who clearly didn't have a clue about inflation, i.e. insufficient fact-checking. Assuming that figure *had* been correct, Mattern's maths skills were perfectly fine.
And that still pales in comparison with the original guy's fundamental stupidity. Matter of fact, it wouldn't surprise me if *he* was a troll...
good.. you go drive your electric go-cart, while the rest of us performance nuts will stick to our 600hp big iron
Dude, talk about delusions of grandeur if you think that any PC owned by a performance hobbyist is likely to qualify as "Big Iron" in *any* sense of the word.
Heh... the /web/ "wasn't as prominent back in the 90s as it was (say) in the early-2000s."
Yeah, but it was my observation and *I've* been on the web since '94. So there :-P
That disagreement aside, by roughly 2005 you could buy a PC in a black aluminum case with a clear side panel at the local bigbox here in Canada. So for me that was the final tombstone of the original scene; the original creative thrust had long peaked.
No contradiction here, it sounds like we were talking about different things. You had the true original scene in mind, whereas I was discussing the point where it was most prominent in the mainstream, the point at which it became cliched- around five years ago, as you suggest.
Sorry mods, but that troll wasn't "Informative". Modding was alive and well in the 90s.
Perhaps, but the OP broadly had a point- it wasn't as prominent back in the 90s as it was (say) in the early-2000s. Actually, I'd say that that the phenomenon peaked more recently than that- even in the early 2000s I thought that my computer would look quite interesting if you could see the insides all the time. Having come up with that idea independently (though it was a somewhat obvious one) and it seeming interesting and original at the time, it's likely that the off-the-shelf windows-and-cold-cathod-lighting cheesiness hadn't yet become prominent, let alone cliched at that point.
;-)
Wouldn't do it now for that reason though, even though the way I'd visualised it would have been way more tasteful. I swear
I didn't click on the link; there's no way I'm going to voluntarily contribute a page hit after the Gawker fiasco.
I don't see any connection with Gawker Media. Perhaps you're confusing Gizmag with Gizmodo?
But it appears you stand for their rights to abuse human beings, laws and ethics codes of all lands, in complete secrecy. So I understand why you don't agree.
Really? You drew that conclusion from the fact that he simply questioned whether or not this was a technological big deal and queried the expression "open source thinking"?
I've had this sort of thing happen myself before, and frankly it irritates me more every time I see it. You query one aspect of someone's argument and they feel entitled to assume that you're not only arguing against it (which might or might not be the case), but that you're in favour of everything they're opposed to.
I don't even believe that this is an intentional smear attempt in most cases- I believe it's the blinkered kneejerk reaction of the egotistical self-righteous, unable to accept that the pointing out of flaws in (e.g.) a silly argument, or even one aspect of something does *not* entitle you to assume that your opponent "OMG!!!!!1111111 SUPPORTS THE iNTERNATIONAL dEATH iNDUSTRY AND PUPPY STOMPERS!!!".
And for your benefit.... Disclaimer: The above does not necessarily mean that I agree with what Viol8 said there, let alone that I agree with every view he hold or expresses, nor think that we should do horrible things to small, cute animals.
Can I be seeing this? A down-mod on the Parrot Sketch?!
:(
Netcraft confirms it. Slashdot is dead.
No no, it-it's not dead, it's... it's restin'!
You are free to attempt to bring healthy crackers to the market.
Yes, and he's free to criticise makers of existing products whether he wants to compete with them or not.
When they don't sell, or they spoil on the shelves, then you'll understand why the industry is the way it is.
That doesn't mean that the industry isn't producing crap.
Caveat lector.
Yeah, watch out, or he'll eat your liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
Sure, I understood what you meant. Given that Amazon UK tend to sell you things like DVDs using their "preferred Jersey merchant" these days (for tax reasons, presumably), I wouldn't expect a warehouse much further north to factor into the equation, but I suppose with business logistics these days you can't assume too much!
They definitely do have at least one warehouse in Scotland- Glenrothes in Fife- but as you imply, whether that would be used for your delivery is unclear.
:-/
I guess deliveries from the "preferred Jersey merchant" are less likely to be affected by snow. But more likely to be affected by Nazi occupation of the territory...
FWIW, the mysteriously-named "Jersey merchant" is actually Indigo Starfish, which I've heard some not entirely complimentary things about (mainly due to bad packaging on DVDs and the like), though they were okay when I ordered an ink cart, the only thing I've ever used them for personally. The envelope and receipt had the "Indigo Starfish" branding and Amazon's blurb makes clear that one's contract is with IS, not Amazon themselves.
Along with the fact that they're using their own identity for sending out "Jersey merchant" orders, and are a separate company, it's unlikely that Amazon are using them for their "own" orders as I've never had one of those with the Jersey customs declaration on it (nor been notified that it would be dispatched from Jersey, which I assume they'd have to do were this the case).
BTW, IIRC there used to be an "Amazon Jersey" and now there isn't, so I'm not sure what the story was there.
The world of Slashdot it will pass very.
The word is verily you silly twit!
It's an auto-translated quote from Slashdot Japan, which you can visit via my "homepage" link. Whether the original word should be "verily" or not is unclear, as that quote (or rather its original Japanese source) is no longer on the Slashdot.jp home page.
I doubt that it was meant to be "verily" though- it's probably just a mangled translation of something that made sense in Japanese with the meaning of "very" (or something related) somewhere in there.
I don't see any excuse for having a week or more of backlog in delivery services in this region.
Well, I was trying to say that if something is being dispatched from a snowed-in warehouse based in Scotland, your delivery is still going to be delayed, regardless of whether the home counties are swanning around in a heatwave, knocking back Pimms and G&Ts or not :-)
As I said, I don't know where Amazon orders are generally dispatched from- I strongly suspect that popular items will be held at all their UK warehouses, but am less sure about the obscure stuff.
Wasn't Waterloo exactly like this, except for the fact it was completely different?
Not at all. At Waterloo, Napoleon did surrender- and Anonymous have met their destiny in quite a similar way.
I can't comment on the 503s except to say that I didn't see one, but Amazon UK have yet to hit any of their estimated delivery dates for our household's orders over the past month or so
Not sure what's going on about deliveries, but there's been enough people in the office complaining about having not received deliveries from Amazon, and it's not like we've had any snow here either since the week before last, it was all melted off by last Monday so if they are overdue there doesn't really seem to be an excuse now.
Define "here". Parts of Scotland got a lot more snow in the middle of last week (whereas my part of Scotland- which got a lot the previous week- was unaffected despite being not that far away, so don't assume that your local area reflects the whole of the UK). It's possible that any Amazon operations based in Scotland may be affected. (I don't know if they store the same item at multiple warehouses and choose the most efficient one to dispatch from according to the customer's location- but if so I'd guess this would only apply to the better-selling items(?)).
At any rate, Parcelforce (the parcel branch of the Royal Mail) still have such a backlog here that they're refusing to take any further deliveries to Scottish addresses at present, even though there hasn't been further snow since and it appears to be getting removed.
Future proof? I'm still using my 3 years "old" laptop
I'm still using my 10+ years old laptop and I'm perfectly fine with it too :)
That's nothing. I'm still using my 24-year old Atari 800XL and I don't feel the need to upgrade at all. That said, I must admit I'm using a disk drive, as loading my web browser from a cassette would just be silly.
Does this mean HatfulOfHollow is working at Microsoft then?
You think THAT was something, wait till they release iPad nano. It's gonna blow you away.
It was due for release a few months back, but there were problems with the stickers intended to cover up the old "iPod Touch" nameplate.
Is anyone else confused here? I thought that Roland died in 2009. Wasn't there a /. article on it?
Yes, the real Roland Piquepaille died almost two years ago. (His real user account was rpiquepa).
The question is, why should we take anyone blatantly misusing someone else's name like that seriously? And no, I don't believe that this user coincidentally has the same real-life name (or chose that user name independently).
I will still be playing games as much when I am 60 as now that I am 30. If you can't find something fun, look harder or GTFO.
Now get off my lawn.
No.
In many setups, we are talking ten or hundreds of milliseconds. Not bad for starting an application, but unless apps claim exclusive us of the FPGA, then to quote Andy Dodd's post above: "context switching would be a real bitch".
Ha ha, yeah, oddly enough the multitasking and context-switching issues *had* occurred to me; I'm actually surprised that it would be that fast, to be honest!
Probably you'd require multiple FPGAs (possibly having a few simple ones instead of one complex one; not sure how much complexity would be required to get the best performance anyway, or whether the FPGA would be better suited to optimising particular taskt that could be done in a small amount of silicon).
Further, to get maximum possible performance likely requires exposing parts of the CPU to the fabric. A malicious application could potentially permanently damage the processor unless special step are taken.
OTOH *that* one hadn't occurred to me; if we were effectively wanting to do hardware versions of software I'm guessing it might be possible to include some restrictions. But at the same time that would probably cut out a massive swathe of potential. And as you suggest, it would be hard to design it so that a malicious app couldn't do damage somehow.
Interesting idea though- I'm sure that we will see it come to full mainstream fruition one day.
It means that intel has thrown an FPGA [wikipedia.org] into a normal CPU. FPGA's are highly programmable chips that are very fast in the thing they are programmed for. Changing the programming takes, by comparison, a lot of time and they usually can't do anything else than what they are programmed for.
I'm getting the impression that there may be some limitations on this FPGA, but the general concept of having a computer whose hardware itself can be reconfigured via a simple user-level program seems fascinating to me.
I came up with this idea myself a few years ago, and I think I mentioned it here. Not that I'm claiming credit for what is a fairly logical (well, bleeding obvious) extension of the FPGA concept when you think about it, and I'm sure that many others have come up with the same vague idea independently- but I'm surprised that going by the low level of discussion that even *more* people haven't thought about it.
Obviously, in raw terms the FPGA is going to be massively slower than a modern Intel/AMD x86 CPU (that is, if one was to pointlessly attempt to configure the FPGA into an x86 compatible CPU), but of course we're comparing the x86's fast execution of a program with the FPGA's equivalent functionality implemented in hardware.
And the interesting question is how hard and how fast would it be reconfigure, and could they get it to the stage where bog standard apps could speed themselves up by implementing algorithms as temporarily-dedicated hardware?
I'll admit I know bugger all about this, but it surprises me that there's not *more* discussion about it.
The question is...what "IP" has been sold to Microsoft?
Probably 127.0.0.1.
Bet the security on that thing is awful if it's running IIS. Watch me give Microsoft a taste of their own medicine by hacking their si1-0$%#$I)%^%)#%
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