"Better yet, why not have a cdrom drive so you can fit a thousand of those old games onto a single media. What would be the issues holding this back?"
I'm sure pricing is a huge issue here. If you have 1,000 games, and they retailed at $50 a piece. It's pretty obvious the price of those games has little to do with the cost of manufacturing. However, you won't be able to sell this disc at $50,000. ($50 per game x 1,000 games) If you sell it for a reasonable price like... oh.. $200, then you're seriously undervaluing the games themselves. That may not matter if they're no longer around, but there may be executive suspicion that it'd hurt the market later.
It's risky. They might be worried about destroying the value of every game ever made. It's interesting, though: Cartridge based cames from the 16-bit era didn't take up much space. I think 32-megabits (4 megabytes) was as big as it got, and the average was around 1 megabyte. You might come seriously close to putting all of SNES's games onto one CD. With compression such as ZIP, that's even more certain.
I haveta say I like what Nintendo's doing, though. Personally, I wish they'd revive some of their old games for me to play somehow. Either via PC or Gamecube or something. Maybe an on-line pay-for-play arcade?
They've been printing games on trading cards for ages. You all played Solitare on Windows before? There's a game just like that, it was printed on 52 cards. You could even get them out of order and still be able to play!!
As a matter of fact, I think Majong (sp?) has been ported to trading cards as well. Hell, Nintendo probably produced these cards as that was their previous business model before making video games.
So get with the program guys, porting computer games to cards isn't new!!!
" Windows machines can't even read an ext2/3 partition, but Linux machines can read/write FAT and read NTFS. Sounds like Windows is behind (albeit by design)"
The reason I said Linux was 'playing catch up' was because the reason Linux can read/write NTFS and FAT is because Windows is the dominant factor in most networks. (usually on the client side)
I don't intend to say that NTFS is superior or anything like that, I'm just saying that Linux has to wrap itself around the Windows world to get adopted.
When MS just has a few mouseclicks to make a network share work, and Linux has to be bent over backwards (at the time, it's not as true today) in order to work with Windows, then the perception is that Linux is trying to catch up with Windows.
The point I was making is that you're not going to impress a Windows user with a Linux advancement if the perception (technical merits wouldn't matter to the ill-informed) is that Windows is already doing it.
I'm a Windows guy, in case that's not blatantly obvious. When there's an announcement like "The new kernel supports USB!!!!" , my response is "Wow, it's about time. Soon they'll support light-pens too." If, instead, the article was like "USB has been implemented in Linux, plus there are default generic drivers that'll drive most mice and printers", then 'wow', it's cool.
I tried to make my point clearer, but I'm too tired to know if I succeeded. heh.
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That's a cool idea. Use Linux to boot into off the CD and auto-detect what it needs.
The downside is that us Win2k/NT (and presumably Linux) users are used to having their machine up all the time.
However, I'd be happy to dedicate an OS-less machine just to gaming.
When they say 'ready to play', do they mean it plays off the disc like a platform gaming system, or that you can install it off the CD and then play the game?
The reason I ask is that if the former is true, then it makes Linux more attractive to me as a gaming machine, particularly if it can handle initiating those drivers while it's running. One thing that annoys the hell out of me is that games in Windows think they need to be installed first. I can understand wanting to have a save-game folder, but I find it ridiculous what all needs to be copied over to the computer.
I remember a couple of years ago, my former office mate was really getting into Linux. He got Samba working and was reaaaally happy about that. Today I understand why Samba's cool, but back then his demo didn't impress me.
Coworker: "Go to my Linux box under Network Neighborhood."
Me: "Ok"
Coworker: "See that directory there?"
Me: "You mean the folder called 'Public'?"
Coworker: "yeah!!!"
Me: "okay.. I'm in there."
Coworker: "YES!! I got Samba working!! Isn't that great?"
Me: "Umm.. you spent all of yesterday and today on that?"
Coworker: "Yeah! It was hard!" (if memory serves, he had a bit of trouble getting it to work on our network, we had some strange issues with it before he started messing with Samba. This was a startup company so the computers were basically band-aided together with whatever MS thought we needed...)
Me: "You realize that a sane person could recreate that trick on Windows by right clicking here, then clicking this checkbox here, then hitting apply, right?" (I was a bit of a smeghead then, still am today.)
After that day, a new policy was created that banned the use of the F-word above a certain number of decibals.
Piece of advice to Linux Zealots out there: Don't brag about features of Linux designed to keep up with Windows. To the uninformed, it makes Linux sound like an un-evolved OS.
The article poster listed every single good game for the Jaguar. There were no others. The rest were garbage.
I paid $250 for one of those stupid things, and the lack of games was infurating. Then, when one trickled down, it felt like a half-assed development at best.
If that wasn't enough, the 3DO was kicking it's butt graphically even though it was supposedly so powerful. Part of me wonders if the Jaguar suffered the same fate that the Saturn did by being powerful, but awkward to program for. Tempest and AvP were awesome, and that was really it.
Okay, I'm done ranting, guess I can go read the interview now.:)
Actually, the reason that MS webservers are vulnerable is that the same exploits used to take out a desktop PC running Windows can be used to take on an MS webserver too.
NT Server can be used as a desktop OS, it just has additional stuff. A vulnerbility in Windows is a vulnerability in IIS. As a matter of fact, Win2k comes with a basic version of IIS. So yes, MS is a lot more popular for hacking in this respect. It's more vulnerable and easy to access.
"Whether it's the best scifi or the lousiest isn't important, if you enjoy watching it."
You make a very good point.
However, the reason I made the post that I did (vs. stating essentially what you said) is that half of enjoying a show involves understanding what to appreciate about it.
I thought Austin Powers was stupid until I watched it with my cousin. Turns out the movie wasn't stupid at all, it was just that I went at it with the wrong attitude.
It's for that reason I don't waste much time reading articles that point out the flaws of any given movie. So what? I mean it's fun to see silly mistakes ("How could you accellerate the motorcycle while your right hand was busy firing a gun?), it's another to point out not so obvious stuff about a movie and blow it out of proportion.
Anybody remember that transparent aluminum story a while back? Not surprising, a bunch of people talked about Star Trek IV. One guy nitpicked a detail so harshly that he claimed it ruined the movie for him. I think that example illustrates both your point and mine. How can ya enjoy it if you don't know how to appreciate it? That's why I don't make fun of opera even though I can't stand listening to it.
"Compare those to the Voyager finale, crap. The episode where Worf's son comes back from the future to kill himself, dumb. Anything in Voyager involving the Starfleet Time Cops from the future, ugh."
There was an episode of Deep Space Nine where Sisko keept popping in and out into the future. Jake, Sisko's son, dedicated his life to figuring out how to bring his dad back.
If memory serves (it's been years since I've seen it), there was some technobabble trick to get Sisko back. That wasn't the spine of the episode, though. What really carried the story was Sisko's realization that his travels through time were ruining his son's life. He not only got a chance to see his son all grown up, but he also got a chance to see how dedicated Jake was to him.
That was one of the coolest time travel eps I had ever seen.
It just became apparent that anything the 'franchise' does is just drying to squeeze a little more milk out of the cash cow. It's hardly good science fiction anymore.
1) Big problem (alien, wormhole, time-loop, computer malfunction) presents itself.
2) Bunch of yammering and melodrama and crappy dialogue, of the hollywood breed, which they no doubt think is interesting.
3) 5 minutes into the end of the show Geordi (or whoever) goes 'I got it!' and yammers out some nonsense techno-babble which solves the problem.
They could at least throw in a bunch of cool special effects, something.
IMO the franchise has been coasting on nostalgia for years, god only knows how long it will last, though.
Thats not to say that there's much better on TV. I plan on watching Smackdown! tonight, it's as intellectual as anything else on the toob.
I stopped reading Slashdot comments a couple of months after I started lurking.
It just became apparent that anything the 'poster' says is just drying to squeeze a little more karma out of the moderators. It's hardly good reading anymore.
1) Big problem (MS, DMCA, DRM, SSSCA, RIAA, MPAA) presents itself.
2) Bunch of yammering and melodrama and crappy dialogue, of the seemingly educated breed, which they no doubt think is interesting.
3) 5 words into the reply, the poster oversimplifies the problem and yammers out some nonsense babble which seems to solve the problem, only it doesn't.
They could at least throw in a bunch of common sense, something.
IMO the comments have been coasting on karma for years, god only knows how long it will last, though.
Thats not to say that there's much better on the net. I plan on reading MSNBC.Com tonight, it's as intellectual as anything else on the web.
Isn't it funny how you can oversimplify something and make it sound like everybody's an idiot for enjoing it?:)
... it's about character. A good deal of both DS9 and TNG (arguably both really good shows, whether you like Trek or not) was about character interaction. I'll give you an example:
There's an ep of DS9 where Will Riker's duplicate (transporter accident in an ep of TNG) stole the Defiant and went off to give the Cardassians hell.
One could very easily dismiss that ep as "Oh geez, dude steals a ship, fires the guns a few times, and gives up when he's outnumbered. What an original plot. *sarcasm*"
However, that wasn't the interesting part of the episode. The interesting part was WHY Riker's duplicate did this. He was stranded alone on a planet for 8 years. When he was recovered, he couldn't live up to success that the Riker that made it off the planet enjoyed.
When you watch this ep, you're lead to believe that the Riker duplicate was going for the 'greater good' trying to uncover some Cardassian plot. What was really going on was he was hoping to quickly turn himself into a hero, even if it meant death for him.
There were other interesting details of the episode, but I just wanted to make that little point: Plot isn't everything. Here's a case where scifi gave birth to a situation not likely to happen in reality, and gave the audience an interesting glimpse into a fictional world.
Frankly, I think Enterprise would be a lot more popular if people understood this concept. The 'plot' of the episodes isn't the strong point, the development of the characters is. That's what it's all about.
I'm aspiring to work in Visual FX soon. In order to get a job doing that, I need to provide a reel of FX that I created in order to prove I can do it.
The problem with FX is that some of the best effects you can do are the kind that people don't notice. For example, there was a scene in Showgirls where a fountain had to be played with digitally in order to make it come out right. (If memory serves, the fountain didn't work when it came time to shoot, so it was fixed later...) Not a spectacular effect, nobody even noticed. The idea was to save money on a reshoot later.
Well, the problem I have is that if I do a good enough job doing effects like that, how's anybody going to know what I did? An interesting idea hit me: Why not perform an alteration to a well known movie?
I could take a movie, do a DVD-Rip of it so I have an.AVI on my computer to play with, then I could do something like replace a painting on the wall of a set with something startlingly different. Imagine a Star Wars movie posting hanging in Captain Picard's ready room.
The more subtle I make it, the more likely that the effect will go unnoticed. But to have that poster hanging in a Star Trek movie would be startling. So my subtle effect could easily go noticed. Good, eh?
Well, here's what bugs me: the DMCA says I can't do that. Fair use rights used to let me do that. I'm legitimately trying to use copyrighted work to privately advance my education. If the problem wasn't so serious (i.e. DRM enfocrement of 'copy restriction'...) then this situation would be comical. The very industry that is pushing for this type of enforcement is the same industry I'm trying to build a skillset for so I can work for them and make more content!
Can I succeed without doing the DVD rip? Yeah, sort maybe. But they've made my life a good deal harder. I want to learn how to green-screen against footage shot professionally. This is easy to do if I rip a DVD with documentary footage. Without that footage, I'll have to hire somebody to professionally light a greenscreen set. Cute. If I had the money to do that, I wouldn't be trying to educate myself!
I hope the *AA realizes that they're destroying their talent pool.
I always thought of hooking a tesla coil up to a computer to be more of a security option. Heck, I want one to skeletonize the PHB that keeps entering my cube.
"The main advantage in going higher than that is for high- quality printing. "
I don't think that's the main advantage. The main advantage is less dependency on zoom. Us 3D dudes that use a digital camera for capturing textures like not having to take multiple pictures.
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"Better yet, why not have a cdrom drive so you can fit a thousand of those old games onto a single media. What would be the issues holding this back?"
I'm sure pricing is a huge issue here. If you have 1,000 games, and they retailed at $50 a piece. It's pretty obvious the price of those games has little to do with the cost of manufacturing. However, you won't be able to sell this disc at $50,000. ($50 per game x 1,000 games) If you sell it for a reasonable price like... oh.. $200, then you're seriously undervaluing the games themselves. That may not matter if they're no longer around, but there may be executive suspicion that it'd hurt the market later.
It's risky. They might be worried about destroying the value of every game ever made. It's interesting, though: Cartridge based cames from the 16-bit era didn't take up much space. I think 32-megabits (4 megabytes) was as big as it got, and the average was around 1 megabyte. You might come seriously close to putting all of SNES's games onto one CD. With compression such as ZIP, that's even more certain.
I haveta say I like what Nintendo's doing, though. Personally, I wish they'd revive some of their old games for me to play somehow. Either via PC or Gamecube or something. Maybe an on-line pay-for-play arcade?
They've been printing games on trading cards for ages. You all played Solitare on Windows before? There's a game just like that, it was printed on 52 cards. You could even get them out of order and still be able to play!!
As a matter of fact, I think Majong (sp?) has been ported to trading cards as well. Hell, Nintendo probably produced these cards as that was their previous business model before making video games.
So get with the program guys, porting computer games to cards isn't new!!!
" Windows machines can't even read an ext2/3 partition, but Linux machines can read/write FAT and read NTFS. Sounds like Windows is behind (albeit by design)"
The reason I said Linux was 'playing catch up' was because the reason Linux can read/write NTFS and FAT is because Windows is the dominant factor in most networks. (usually on the client side)
I don't intend to say that NTFS is superior or anything like that, I'm just saying that Linux has to wrap itself around the Windows world to get adopted.
When MS just has a few mouseclicks to make a network share work, and Linux has to be bent over backwards (at the time, it's not as true today) in order to work with Windows, then the perception is that Linux is trying to catch up with Windows.
The point I was making is that you're not going to impress a Windows user with a Linux advancement if the perception (technical merits wouldn't matter to the ill-informed) is that Windows is already doing it.
I'm a Windows guy, in case that's not blatantly obvious. When there's an announcement like "The new kernel supports USB!!!!" , my response is "Wow, it's about time. Soon they'll support light-pens too." If, instead, the article was like "USB has been implemented in Linux, plus there are default generic drivers that'll drive most mice and printers", then 'wow', it's cool.
I tried to make my point clearer, but I'm too tired to know if I succeeded. heh.
That's a cool idea. Use Linux to boot into off the CD and auto-detect what it needs.
The downside is that us Win2k/NT (and presumably Linux) users are used to having their machine up all the time.
However, I'd be happy to dedicate an OS-less machine just to gaming.
" Just imagine if it had to read 15 megs of textures from a cd over and over every minute. "
Modern game systems aren't exactly suffering now from it. B'sides, I have a gig of RAM.
When they say 'ready to play', do they mean it plays off the disc like a platform gaming system, or that you can install it off the CD and then play the game?
The reason I ask is that if the former is true, then it makes Linux more attractive to me as a gaming machine, particularly if it can handle initiating those drivers while it's running. One thing that annoys the hell out of me is that games in Windows think they need to be installed first. I can understand wanting to have a save-game folder, but I find it ridiculous what all needs to be copied over to the computer.
Heh that was funny. GJ. :)
I remember a couple of years ago, my former office mate was really getting into Linux. He got Samba working and was reaaaally happy about that. Today I understand why Samba's cool, but back then his demo didn't impress me.
Coworker: "Go to my Linux box under Network Neighborhood."
Me: "Ok"
Coworker: "See that directory there?"
Me: "You mean the folder called 'Public'?"
Coworker: "yeah!!!"
Me: "okay.. I'm in there."
Coworker: "YES!! I got Samba working!! Isn't that great?"
Me: "Umm.. you spent all of yesterday and today on that?"
Coworker: "Yeah! It was hard!" (if memory serves, he had a bit of trouble getting it to work on our network, we had some strange issues with it before he started messing with Samba. This was a startup company so the computers were basically band-aided together with whatever MS thought we needed...)
Me: "You realize that a sane person could recreate that trick on Windows by right clicking here, then clicking this checkbox here, then hitting apply, right?" (I was a bit of a smeghead then, still am today.)
After that day, a new policy was created that banned the use of the F-word above a certain number of decibals.
Piece of advice to Linux Zealots out there: Don't brag about features of Linux designed to keep up with Windows. To the uninformed, it makes Linux sound like an un-evolved OS.
A lot of people are asking about the technical ramifications of your conviction, but I'm more interested in your state of mind.
Are you scared about being incarcerated?
Do you see it as a new start? What I mean by that is that once you're out, you have paid your debt and can move on.
The article poster listed every single good game for the Jaguar. There were no others. The rest were garbage.
:)
I paid $250 for one of those stupid things, and the lack of games was infurating. Then, when one trickled down, it felt like a half-assed development at best.
If that wasn't enough, the 3DO was kicking it's butt graphically even though it was supposedly so powerful. Part of me wonders if the Jaguar suffered the same fate that the Saturn did by being powerful, but awkward to program for. Tempest and AvP were awesome, and that was really it.
Okay, I'm done ranting, guess I can go read the interview now.
Call me a 'dumb fuck' with your registerred nick, and I'll tell you why you're wrong.
Actually, the reason that MS webservers are vulnerable is that the same exploits used to take out a desktop PC running Windows can be used to take on an MS webserver too.
NT Server can be used as a desktop OS, it just has additional stuff. A vulnerbility in Windows is a vulnerability in IIS. As a matter of fact, Win2k comes with a basic version of IIS. So yes, MS is a lot more popular for hacking in this respect. It's more vulnerable and easy to access.
I didn't reply to myself. Sorry.
"There. Hopefully we can put an end to the "hackers just target microsoft because they're most popular" argument right now."
Umm no, the argument still stands. You may not be aware of this, but MS does more than just make webservers. That's why they earned their reputation.
It's the sort of detail that gets flushed out when you take a moment to understand what people are saying.
Hey dudes, I found an NYT article that illustrates the basics to any good scifi movie here. Get those pencils going, it's easier than you think!
"Whether it's the best scifi or the lousiest isn't important, if you enjoy watching it."
You make a very good point.
However, the reason I made the post that I did (vs. stating essentially what you said) is that half of enjoying a show involves understanding what to appreciate about it.
I thought Austin Powers was stupid until I watched it with my cousin. Turns out the movie wasn't stupid at all, it was just that I went at it with the wrong attitude.
It's for that reason I don't waste much time reading articles that point out the flaws of any given movie. So what? I mean it's fun to see silly mistakes ("How could you accellerate the motorcycle while your right hand was busy firing a gun?), it's another to point out not so obvious stuff about a movie and blow it out of proportion.
Anybody remember that transparent aluminum story a while back? Not surprising, a bunch of people talked about Star Trek IV. One guy nitpicked a detail so harshly that he claimed it ruined the movie for him. I think that example illustrates both your point and mine. How can ya enjoy it if you don't know how to appreciate it? That's why I don't make fun of opera even though I can't stand listening to it.
"Compare those to the Voyager finale, crap. The episode where Worf's son comes back from the future to kill himself, dumb. Anything in Voyager involving the Starfleet Time Cops from the future, ugh."
There was an episode of Deep Space Nine where Sisko keept popping in and out into the future. Jake, Sisko's son, dedicated his life to figuring out how to bring his dad back.
If memory serves (it's been years since I've seen it), there was some technobabble trick to get Sisko back. That wasn't the spine of the episode, though. What really carried the story was Sisko's realization that his travels through time were ruining his son's life. He not only got a chance to see his son all grown up, but he also got a chance to see how dedicated Jake was to him.
That was one of the coolest time travel eps I had ever seen.
I stopped reading Slashdot comments a couple of months after I started lurking.
It just became apparent that anything the 'poster' says is just drying to squeeze a little more karma out of the moderators. It's hardly good reading anymore.
1) Big problem (MS, DMCA, DRM, SSSCA, RIAA, MPAA) presents itself.
2) Bunch of yammering and melodrama and crappy dialogue, of the seemingly educated breed, which they no doubt think is interesting.
3) 5 words into the reply, the poster oversimplifies the problem and yammers out some nonsense babble which seems to solve the problem, only it doesn't.
They could at least throw in a bunch of common sense, something.
IMO the comments have been coasting on karma for years, god only knows how long it will last, though.
Thats not to say that there's much better on the net. I plan on reading MSNBC.Com tonight, it's as intellectual as anything else on the web.
Isn't it funny how you can oversimplify something and make it sound like everybody's an idiot for enjoing it?
"Where would the writers of the Matrix gotten a plot otherwise?"
Doctor Who?
"While you have a point, it always irritates me when someone has a twin who shows up, and then gets killed the same episode."
I think Red Dwarf wins the award for "Best Twin Plot". =D
... it's about character. A good deal of both DS9 and TNG (arguably both really good shows, whether you like Trek or not) was about character interaction. I'll give you an example:
There's an ep of DS9 where Will Riker's duplicate (transporter accident in an ep of TNG) stole the Defiant and went off to give the Cardassians hell.
One could very easily dismiss that ep as "Oh geez, dude steals a ship, fires the guns a few times, and gives up when he's outnumbered. What an original plot. *sarcasm*"
However, that wasn't the interesting part of the episode. The interesting part was WHY Riker's duplicate did this. He was stranded alone on a planet for 8 years. When he was recovered, he couldn't live up to success that the Riker that made it off the planet enjoyed.
When you watch this ep, you're lead to believe that the Riker duplicate was going for the 'greater good' trying to uncover some Cardassian plot. What was really going on was he was hoping to quickly turn himself into a hero, even if it meant death for him.
There were other interesting details of the episode, but I just wanted to make that little point: Plot isn't everything. Here's a case where scifi gave birth to a situation not likely to happen in reality, and gave the audience an interesting glimpse into a fictional world.
Frankly, I think Enterprise would be a lot more popular if people understood this concept. The 'plot' of the episodes isn't the strong point, the development of the characters is. That's what it's all about.
I'm aspiring to work in Visual FX soon. In order to get a job doing that, I need to provide a reel of FX that I created in order to prove I can do it.
.AVI on my computer to play with, then I could do something like replace a painting on the wall of a set with something startlingly different. Imagine a Star Wars movie posting hanging in Captain Picard's ready room.
The problem with FX is that some of the best effects you can do are the kind that people don't notice. For example, there was a scene in Showgirls where a fountain had to be played with digitally in order to make it come out right. (If memory serves, the fountain didn't work when it came time to shoot, so it was fixed later...) Not a spectacular effect, nobody even noticed. The idea was to save money on a reshoot later.
Well, the problem I have is that if I do a good enough job doing effects like that, how's anybody going to know what I did? An interesting idea hit me: Why not perform an alteration to a well known movie?
I could take a movie, do a DVD-Rip of it so I have an
The more subtle I make it, the more likely that the effect will go unnoticed. But to have that poster hanging in a Star Trek movie would be startling. So my subtle effect could easily go noticed. Good, eh?
Well, here's what bugs me: the DMCA says I can't do that. Fair use rights used to let me do that. I'm legitimately trying to use copyrighted work to privately advance my education. If the problem wasn't so serious (i.e. DRM enfocrement of 'copy restriction'...) then this situation would be comical. The very industry that is pushing for this type of enforcement is the same industry I'm trying to build a skillset for so I can work for them and make more content!
Can I succeed without doing the DVD rip? Yeah, sort maybe. But they've made my life a good deal harder. I want to learn how to green-screen against footage shot professionally. This is easy to do if I rip a DVD with documentary footage. Without that footage, I'll have to hire somebody to professionally light a greenscreen set. Cute. If I had the money to do that, I wouldn't be trying to educate myself!
I hope the *AA realizes that they're destroying their talent pool.
I always thought of hooking a tesla coil up to a computer to be more of a security option. Heck, I want one to skeletonize the PHB that keeps entering my cube.
"But I suppose because it's a funny-cute smackdown, people are willing to ignore the truth and mod it up. Such are the times we live in"
Maybe I'm just tired, but did anybody make sense of that?
"Ending a sentence in a preposition is not proper."
Sorry, I'd be proper but I can't type with my pinky raised in the air.
"The main advantage in going higher than that is for high- quality printing. "
I don't think that's the main advantage. The main advantage is less dependency on zoom. Us 3D dudes that use a digital camera for capturing textures like not having to take multiple pictures.