Computers were just toys back then. People bought them, played with them, and occasionally found a good use for them. At their peak, they were hobbyist toys like Ham Radio. Then Win95 came around. Suddenly the computer becomes useful. It's like turning Ham Radio into cell phones.
No it doesnt. That's absurd. This isn't about evilness, it's about choices. There's a difference between cutting off Google and building up arms to invasion.
Seriously dude, gain some perspective. Everybody acts like I'm stuck on autopilot until the end!
"What makes you think that their values are ANY different than yours...they're Chinese, not Alien."
Well, they don't celebrate Christmas, their new year is different... Come to think of it, why are you asking me such a stupid question? Betcha don't got the balls to answer.
"I seem to remember they did that before, but their government sent the tanks in..."
Okay, tell me when exactly the people asked our government to unblock Google? 'I seem to remember' is not a fact.
"Cant remember who said it but....The only thing necessary for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing..."
Apples....oranges....bowling balls... If they can't say 'help us' then what good are we gonna do them? Try replying with good points instead of just arguing me for the sake of arguing.
I can't believe I got modded down as 'troll' for my post. I was serious. I wanted people to either see my point or tell me (politely) that I'm wrong.
It burns me up that we think we need to parade our values around town and make everybody assymilate. I can't stand it when religious people try that crap on me.
If Google is blocked (sounds rumorish to me), then why are we so upset about it?
I don't know much of anything about China, or any other Asian country for that matter. I just know that they're different in many ways. My values are not the same as theirs. I really don't want to go impressing mine upon them either. If the Chinese people aren't fighting the censorship of Google, then I'm not fighting it either.
They probably think American kids are nutso about believing in an overweight man who climbs down chimneys and drops off toys every year, but I never had a Chinese person approach me and tell me about the great hoax!
To put it another way: it's only our problem if they ask for our help. It becomes their problem when we force help on them. Leave them be.
"Why the hell does a dam even need to be part of a WAN?"
I have a better question: Why would they do that if it wasn't important? It's easy to ask a question like that when you have no bloody clue how the thing even works. But if somebody were to hook up a dam to the WAN, they'd need to have a good reason. Making it useful on the web is not a 'flip a switch' deal.
a.) Terrorism is not defined by death. Don't believe me? Look it up.
b.) Your 'point', despite it being horribly wrong, adds nothing to the converstaion. If people maliciously got into a sytem and did harm, they could find creative ways of creating trouble.
The unfortunate side-effect (For the would be terrorists) is that all it'd do is make our systems more secure.
Ya know, the apology is nice, but I really appreciate that you took the time to read what I said and proccess it. That was very classy of you and I appreciate it. I now have a very high opinion of you.
I read your response this morning and decided to step back a bit and reread my post. You're right, it does sound patronizing and condescending. Didn't originally mean it that way, and I didn't see it that way until I took a harder stab at reading it from your point of view. I believe this means I should work on making my expressions clearer in the future.
a.) There's a (literal) difference between a wire and a string.
b.) My post was a joke. I figured most Slashdotters would find it funny considering that people love using literalism as a starting place for a heated debate.
"So instead of advocating prevention, you're waiting for tiny little robots? Sure, that's rational..."
Not what I said. Not even close. I can see why you'd think I said that if you only skimmed my original post. Here's a tip though: When it sounds like somebody's being absurd, ask them questions instead of assuming your interpretation is correct. It's commonly known that nano tech to do something like that is decades away and we need a cure sooner than that. What I was saying was one day (decades from now) we'll have a single cure for nearly everything. Guess I should have fleshed that part out a bit.
"Of course prevention isn't the best cure - it's not a cure at all. It's called "prevention" for a reason."
I forgot to mention something: There used to be posters floating around that promoted safe sex by saying 'prevention is the best cure for AIDS'. It didn't occur to me that not everybody reading this may have seen that. Heck, it may not even have appeared outside of the town I live in. My mistake, understanding of that detail makes my point clearer.
" Prevention is one strategy, and there is no reason not to persue it."
Never said it shouldn't be pursued either. I said it's not the best way to approach it. As a matter of fact, its a very problematic way of stopping the virus.
I got to attend a preview of one of the classes. I was asked to leave over a debate about whether or not two cans held together with a shoestring is a wireless technology. Despite the dictionary's support of my view, it is not classically considered a wireless technology.
Heh I got a chuckle out of that. I won a Gifted Ed. programming challenge once using a similar technique. We were supposed to write a program in Basic that solved a word problem. Unfortunately, they didn't give us a whole lot of time. So I worked out the answer to the problem. My source code was like this:
10 PRINT "10:30"
Nobody else got the problem right, and the rules were vague enough that displaying the right answer was good enough. Heh. Pretty damn efficient coding, dont'cha think?:)
This is exactly the problem with winning the war against AIDS by suffocating it. People who are HIV+ or have AIDS would have to be singled out with their freedoms sucked away. It is really hard to justify doing that to somebody, like in the case of your friend's dad. He did nothing wrong. Boom, it just happened.
This is why I don't think 'prevention' is the best cure. Personally, I hope that nano technology results in the creation of microscopic robots that can be programmed to act like antibodies. I think that'll be the ultimate cure for most disease. (please don't correct me if I'm wrong about the bots, my imagination is allowing me to look at the future a lot more brightly.)
He was just making a harmless joke. The tone of his reply was very light hearted compared to the "I wish everybody'd burn in hell for making an innocent typo" crap that a lot of people seem to think they have the right to do.
Ya haveta admit, a typo like that is fairly topical. If chimpanzees did get on the net, they would have to be regulated. Geocities.com would become Geocities.chimp.:)
"So... what's the point? You just wanted to brag that you got a girlfriend?"
What's the point of that question? Touch a nerve did I?
Let's put things into perspecive here: I pointed out several things of surprise that happened over the last year. On one particular point, I implied that my acquisition (heh) of a gf was incredibly unlikely. You focused on the one about my girlfriend and mutated a poke at my own general repulsiveness into an attempt to sound like a player.
So did I use this thread to brag about my girlfriend, or are you using it because you're mad at me for having one? It seems to me that you are the one with an issue, not I.
Every time I turn around some big corporation wants to poke their nose into my private life using the internet. You know they're going to log everything I put into that machine. The last thing I need is some company abusing my privacy so that they can air my dirty laundry in public! >:I
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Shut up dick-for-brains. You don't even know what he's taliking about, so you don't know what you're talking about.
If you weren't anonymous, I'd have a reply to that.
Computers were just toys back then. People bought them, played with them, and occasionally found a good use for them. At their peak, they were hobbyist toys like Ham Radio. Then Win95 came around. Suddenly the computer becomes useful. It's like turning Ham Radio into cell phones.
I'll have to agree with Nanogater on this one.
No it doesnt. That's absurd. This isn't about evilness, it's about choices. There's a difference between cutting off Google and building up arms to invasion.
Seriously dude, gain some perspective. Everybody acts like I'm stuck on autopilot until the end!
"A lot of Chinese also read /. and isn't this then a way to complain like you just said?"
At the time I wrote that, I hadn't seen anybody saying "Im from China". Sue me.
"What makes you think that their values are ANY different than yours...they're Chinese, not Alien."
Well, they don't celebrate Christmas, their new year is different... Come to think of it, why are you asking me such a stupid question? Betcha don't got the balls to answer.
"I seem to remember they did that before, but their government sent the tanks in..."
Okay, tell me when exactly the people asked our government to unblock Google? 'I seem to remember' is not a fact.
"Cant remember who said it but....The only thing necessary for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing..."
Apples....oranges....bowling balls... If they can't say 'help us' then what good are we gonna do them? Try replying with good points instead of just arguing me for the sake of arguing.
I can't believe I got modded down as 'troll' for my post. I was serious. I wanted people to either see my point or tell me (politely) that I'm wrong.
It burns me up that we think we need to parade our values around town and make everybody assymilate. I can't stand it when religious people try that crap on me.
Trolling indeed.
If Google is blocked (sounds rumorish to me), then why are we so upset about it?
I don't know much of anything about China, or any other Asian country for that matter. I just know that they're different in many ways. My values are not the same as theirs. I really don't want to go impressing mine upon them either. If the Chinese people aren't fighting the censorship of Google, then I'm not fighting it either.
They probably think American kids are nutso about believing in an overweight man who climbs down chimneys and drops off toys every year, but I never had a Chinese person approach me and tell me about the great hoax!
To put it another way: it's only our problem if they ask for our help. It becomes their problem when we force help on them. Leave them be.
"Why the hell does a dam even need to be part of a WAN?"
I have a better question: Why would they do that if it wasn't important? It's easy to ask a question like that when you have no bloody clue how the thing even works. But if somebody were to hook up a dam to the WAN, they'd need to have a good reason. Making it useful on the web is not a 'flip a switch' deal.
a.) Terrorism is not defined by death. Don't believe me? Look it up.
b.) Your 'point', despite it being horribly wrong, adds nothing to the converstaion. If people maliciously got into a sytem and did harm, they could find creative ways of creating trouble.
The unfortunate side-effect (For the would be terrorists) is that all it'd do is make our systems more secure.
Ya know, the apology is nice, but I really appreciate that you took the time to read what I said and proccess it. That was very classy of you and I appreciate it. I now have a very high opinion of you.
I read your response this morning and decided to step back a bit and reread my post. You're right, it does sound patronizing and condescending. Didn't originally mean it that way, and I didn't see it that way until I took a harder stab at reading it from your point of view. I believe this means I should work on making my expressions clearer in the future.
Thanks man. Have a good weekend.
a.) There's a (literal) difference between a wire and a string.
b.) My post was a joke. I figured most Slashdotters would find it funny considering that people love using literalism as a starting place for a heated debate.
c.) Grow up.
... This article popped up about 30 seconds after my manager called a meeting asking if we can work over the weekend.
It was funny as hell when I turned my laptop around right after she asked that heh.
... if our schedules weren't defined by trade shows.
"So instead of advocating prevention, you're waiting for tiny little robots? Sure, that's rational..."
Not what I said. Not even close. I can see why you'd think I said that if you only skimmed my original post. Here's a tip though: When it sounds like somebody's being absurd, ask them questions instead of assuming your interpretation is correct. It's commonly known that nano tech to do something like that is decades away and we need a cure sooner than that. What I was saying was one day (decades from now) we'll have a single cure for nearly everything. Guess I should have fleshed that part out a bit.
"Of course prevention isn't the best cure - it's not a cure at all. It's called "prevention" for a reason."
I forgot to mention something: There used to be posters floating around that promoted safe sex by saying 'prevention is the best cure for AIDS'. It didn't occur to me that not everybody reading this may have seen that. Heck, it may not even have appeared outside of the town I live in. My mistake, understanding of that detail makes my point clearer.
" Prevention is one strategy, and there is no reason not to persue it."
Never said it shouldn't be pursued either. I said it's not the best way to approach it. As a matter of fact, its a very problematic way of stopping the virus.
Yeesh, now I know why legalese was invented.
Sorry to suck the fun out of the joke, but I don't speak C. Anybody wanna translate for me? :)
I got to attend a preview of one of the classes. I was asked to leave over a debate about whether or not two cans held together with a shoestring is a wireless technology. Despite the dictionary's support of my view, it is not classically considered a wireless technology.
"So what button is the "Strafe" command? "
There's gotta be a way to mix the Move and Pick commands to Rocket Jump...
Heh I got a chuckle out of that. I won a Gifted Ed. programming challenge once using a similar technique. We were supposed to write a program in Basic that solved a word problem. Unfortunately, they didn't give us a whole lot of time. So I worked out the answer to the problem. My source code was like this:
10 PRINT "10:30"
Nobody else got the problem right, and the rules were vague enough that displaying the right answer was good enough. Heh. Pretty damn efficient coding, dont'cha think?
"He got it through a blood transfusion."
This is exactly the problem with winning the war against AIDS by suffocating it. People who are HIV+ or have AIDS would have to be singled out with their freedoms sucked away. It is really hard to justify doing that to somebody, like in the case of your friend's dad. He did nothing wrong. Boom, it just happened.
This is why I don't think 'prevention' is the best cure. Personally, I hope that nano technology results in the creation of microscopic robots that can be programmed to act like antibodies. I think that'll be the ultimate cure for most disease. (please don't correct me if I'm wrong about the bots, my imagination is allowing me to look at the future a lot more brightly.)
Actually, Chimp years are a lot shorter than Human years. It all still plays out. ;)
(at least that's what a Star Wars fanatic would say...)
"Give the guy a break."
:)
He was just making a harmless joke. The tone of his reply was very light hearted compared to the "I wish everybody'd burn in hell for making an innocent typo" crap that a lot of people seem to think they have the right to do.
Ya haveta admit, a typo like that is fairly topical. If chimpanzees did get on the net, they would have to be regulated. Geocities.com would become Geocities.chimp.
"So... what's the point? You just wanted to brag that you got a girlfriend?"
What's the point of that question? Touch a nerve did I?
Let's put things into perspecive here: I pointed out several things of surprise that happened over the last year. On one particular point, I implied that my acquisition (heh) of a gf was incredibly unlikely. You focused on the one about my girlfriend and mutated a poke at my own general repulsiveness into an attempt to sound like a player.
So did I use this thread to brag about my girlfriend, or are you using it because you're mad at me for having one? It seems to me that you are the one with an issue, not I.
Every time I turn around some big corporation wants to poke their nose into my private life using the internet. You know they're going to log everything I put into that machine. The last thing I need is some company abusing my privacy so that they can air my dirty laundry in public! >:I
You also see SGI laptops.... Heh.