I personally have never been in that situation. That being said, I can't help but think I'd fight it. "Tell me why this is illegal. Tell me why you should be the only player in town. Tell me why we can't work something out."
If they can't answer that, then I'd keep it going until I recieved a cease and desist. Assuming that there isn't any legal issues with the students names being printed there, what's the BFD?
Like I said, I'd fight, though I wouldn't rule out compromise. Maybe you could support donations for them?
None of the complaints you have are Flash's fault.
The technology's fine, but I'll happily concur that lots of people aren't as good at UI design as they think they are. I even agree with you that offering a stand-alone version would be much better. (Heck I even noted that in case I ever do a flash movie/cartoon.)
Still, though, the point of my post was that Flash , as an art/entertainment medium, would be missed if it were to disappear. You need far too much bandwidth to get similar quality via DivX or related codecs.
There's a point to be made here
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This guy's got a point. It is possible to read words even if they are misspelled. It may be 'annoying', but it is a fact of life that the spelling Nazi's should learn to live with.
There are reasons people don't spell 'properly'. It's not because they're stupid. It's not because they went to school. It's not because you're the only one on Earth who learned how to spell. Instead, there are real reasons that comments made on the web that have spelling errors.
- Browsers don't have spell checkers when submitting forms. Even if they did, they come as an after thought, as opposed to the way MS Word works by showing you the little squiggly line. Few people want to sit there and have to click 'ok' on every word that wasn't found in the computer's limited dictionary.
- Some people have learning disabilities. A rather talented friend of mine has a learning disability that has impaired his ability to spell. What's the point of me going all Spelling Nazi on him? What good would that do? The solution for me is to be used to it and not worry about it.
- Most people just don't care. The important part is "can you understand me?" If I say u instead of you, so what?
- Not everybody has english as a primary language. It's ridiculous to expect that everybody getting on the web is a college graduate who majored in grammar. It's doubly so when people are in the process of learning English and are participating in web conversation in order to grow. Slashdot, with its international audience, should particularly sensitive to this point.
I originally started writing this post in order to say the author has a point, but I think it turned more into a "be more tolerant" preach. Well, sorry. I do hope, though, somebody reads this and relaxes a little. Successful understanding is the most important aspect of communication, not how closely it follows protocol.
If you didn't even watch the movie, then that's your own fault. Don't blame Flash for your own ignorance and stubbornness. I mean seriously what's so hard about clicking on the 'big movie' button? What's so hard about having cookies enabled? Was that all you had to deal with? I have news for you buddy, the web's like that whether you use Flash or not.
Nice attempt at taking the wind out of my sails though, too bad you wilfully missed a free entertaining chunk of content.
"While MS isn't really trying to kill of PC gaming, it's surely depriving it of a good dose of oxygen..as far as MS game titles are concerned."
??
Games like Halo are a dime a dozen. Very saturated market there. At least in this case, it was moved to a console where the quality was consistent, and Bungie reaped the rewards of millions of copies sold. At best they might have gotten a million or two on PC.
I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure what your complaint is. I'd rather play Halo on the XBOX with their online service where the playing field is more or less level, then have some git playing with the transparent walls driver.
"But seriously, they aren't going to charge full price for it, are they? That would be the ultimate insult, to charge $50.00 for a frickin' two year old game."
I think this is a valid point, not sure why it was modded as flamebait.
Unless they did something to upgrade this game for the 2 year lag, then I agree with what he said. It's reasonable to assume that the majority of people playing Halo on an XBOX has a PC that could also play the game. Why not give them a reason to buy the game twice? Either make it cheap or offer a reasonable upgrade to it.
"Correct to have finished. There is more than one animator. Compare with 'Disney has finished', wherein Disney is a collective noun, which, in American English, is treated as a singular. True plurals, however, are not."
I wonder if there's a typo discussion forum somewhere on the web that Slashdot is attracting users from. www.analnazispelling.com
"So much for seamless eh! Thats the problem with flash, it goes against how the web works in so many ways."
I agree, that sucks. However, DivX is worse than Macromedia in that case. I had a problem the other day where I used 5.02 to play a 5.05 video, or something like that. The video would play for a bit and then halt. I didn't get a nice error message saying "Please update."
"Your argument is flawed anyway, flash is not needed for flash movies unless they are interactive. Give me a divx movie any day."
Except that Flash is considerably more bandwidth friendly than divx, and the quality is higher too. In another post, NG mentioned that Ninjai was running at roughly 2 meg a minute whereas a comparable DivX video would have been around 7 megs a minute. Flash also doesn't have the MPEG'y artifacts.
Ninjai is a special case because it uses both vector based imagery and actual JPEG backgrounds of paintings. A purely vector based movie could be scaled to any resolution and it'd still look very clean. That's not possible with raster based video such as divx.
My argument may be flawed, but it is no more flawed than the argument that Flash should disappear. If divx movies were to replace Flash, then I've got news for you, you'd still have those stupid intro pages and obnoxious ads. You'd kill a useful technology but you wouldn't do anything but wound the ppl who are annoying you with it.
"I repeat: they can adapt. If there is a way, they will find it if they work for it. If they don't want to put the effort into adapting, then they probably weren't passionate enough about their work."
The flaw in what you're saying is that the people who make stupid little flash ads are just as passionate to make the other techniques work as well. All you're doing is trading one annoyance for another, and burning the artists who are showing people the right way to make interesting content.
Your method will do nothing to solve that problem.
"Animated GIFs don't have sound and can't override your browers UI."
You can just turn your sound off. If somebody abuses sound, just click the mute button. See how easy it is to oversimplify and solve a prbolem?
.. the more games made of this franchise, the more 'defined' the unwritten rules of making a Final Fantasy game becomes. I'm not up to speed with Square as of late (stopped watching around FF7), but I can tell you I'm not surprised at some of the concern over the game. It kind of reminds me of Enterprise. I frequent a site that's populated by Trek fans, and their biggest bitch about that whole show is... the theme song. "WTF are they thinking? The show is supposed to have an orchestrated song! Those idiots! I could make the show better simply by choosing a different song!" heh.
"Justifying the cots based solely on MPG isn't a fair assesment."
I think the point of his post wasn't to say "here is exactly how to do it", I think he was trying to say "do some math based on what you know." NG's not really an absolutist. I admit to being a little tainted, though. I've discussed this with him before.
It's no joke. This state has also considered using GPS to track where cars go in Oregon to base taxes on. This state's budget is so messed up lotsa stupid ideas are getting thrown out, and some of them are sticking.
"When it did, I watched about ten seconds of it, realized I didn't care, and closed the window. So I agree with the parent that the death of Flash will be the most wonderful day in web browsing history."
Mighty bold debate style you have there. I personally wouldn't use ignorance to reinforce a heavy handed decision.
"Sweet-Ninjai does a great job to utilize the Flash technology."
I realize that Ninjai is an unusual case and that Flash is mostly used to be obnoxious. It just saddens me that projects like this would happily be sacrificed simply to deal with an annoyance that's more of a social problem than a technical one. Flash is a powerful media for artists. Don't kill it.
"The death of flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history since it's inception."
Go to http://www.ninjai.com, watch the 7 chapters that are available, and then tell me again you think the death of Flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history.
Flash isn't the problem, it's the gimmicky implementation of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't have some damn cool uses. Don't cure the disease by killing the man.
WTF? The guy wasn't trying to do anything new here, he was trying to learn. In doing so, he documented his progress for all to see. I'm not normally one to go ripping things apart, but I was actually half tempted to buy a used PS controller and try this myself. Is it really such a bad thing that he inspired one to learn how to reverse engineer?
This isn't one of those articles where you say "he could have done it cheaper!"Appreciate it for what it is, not for what it doesn't do for you.
"I appreciate the pioneering spirit here, but these things are far too expensive as it is. For the price of another controller I can get a peripheral that'll hook it to the computer."
You have been found guilty of behaviour unbefittinng of a geek. I hereby demote you to spaz. Please leave your geek badge at the door, and remove your Slashdot account immediately.
Wouldn't these laptops technically be 4-D? I mean, it's not like the monitor displays a static image. You have 4 variables here: x,y,z, and then t for time.
"All people see in 2D, at least the ones I know. Most that I've met even think in 2D. This 3D monitor should be interesting, but what kind of brain implants and neural retraining will it require? And, is the radiation used for scanning safe?"
I would really like to have the dude who spent a mod point here chime in and tell us why he thought this was an 'interesting' comment.
"SCO: See! The beer and fungus are derived from Linux which is derived from Unix which is owned by us, so pay up!"
By using these jokes, aren't you deriving work from SCO's previous works? (And those of about 3 million other Slashdotters with +4, Funny's next to their names?)
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I personally have never been in that situation. That being said, I can't help but think I'd fight it. "Tell me why this is illegal. Tell me why you should be the only player in town. Tell me why we can't work something out."
If they can't answer that, then I'd keep it going until I recieved a cease and desist. Assuming that there isn't any legal issues with the students names being printed there, what's the BFD?
Like I said, I'd fight, though I wouldn't rule out compromise. Maybe you could support donations for them?
None of the complaints you have are Flash's fault.
The technology's fine, but I'll happily concur that lots of people aren't as good at UI design as they think they are. I even agree with you that offering a stand-alone version would be much better. (Heck I even noted that in case I ever do a flash movie/cartoon.)
Still, though, the point of my post was that Flash , as an art/entertainment medium, would be missed if it were to disappear. You need far too much bandwidth to get similar quality via DivX or related codecs.
This guy's got a point. It is possible to read words even if they are misspelled. It may be 'annoying', but it is a fact of life that the spelling Nazi's should learn to live with.
There are reasons people don't spell 'properly'. It's not because they're stupid. It's not because they went to school. It's not because you're the only one on Earth who learned how to spell. Instead, there are real reasons that comments made on the web that have spelling errors.
- Browsers don't have spell checkers when submitting forms. Even if they did, they come as an after thought, as opposed to the way MS Word works by showing you the little squiggly line. Few people want to sit there and have to click 'ok' on every word that wasn't found in the computer's limited dictionary.
- Some people have learning disabilities. A rather talented friend of mine has a learning disability that has impaired his ability to spell. What's the point of me going all Spelling Nazi on him? What good would that do? The solution for me is to be used to it and not worry about it.
- Most people just don't care. The important part is "can you understand me?" If I say u instead of you, so what?
- Not everybody has english as a primary language. It's ridiculous to expect that everybody getting on the web is a college graduate who majored in grammar. It's doubly so when people are in the process of learning English and are participating in web conversation in order to grow. Slashdot, with its international audience, should particularly sensitive to this point.
I originally started writing this post in order to say the author has a point, but I think it turned more into a "be more tolerant" preach. Well, sorry. I do hope, though, somebody reads this and relaxes a little. Successful understanding is the most important aspect of communication, not how closely it follows protocol.
If you didn't even watch the movie, then that's your own fault. Don't blame Flash for your own ignorance and stubbornness. I mean seriously what's so hard about clicking on the 'big movie' button? What's so hard about having cookies enabled? Was that all you had to deal with? I have news for you buddy, the web's like that whether you use Flash or not.
Nice attempt at taking the wind out of my sails though, too bad you wilfully missed a free entertaining chunk of content.
"While MS isn't really trying to kill of PC gaming, it's surely depriving it of a good dose of oxygen..as far as MS game titles are concerned."
??
Games like Halo are a dime a dozen. Very saturated market there. At least in this case, it was moved to a console where the quality was consistent, and Bungie reaped the rewards of millions of copies sold. At best they might have gotten a million or two on PC.
I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure what your complaint is. I'd rather play Halo on the XBOX with their online service where the playing field is more or less level, then have some git playing with the transparent walls driver.
"But seriously, they aren't going to charge full price for it, are they? That would be the ultimate insult, to charge $50.00 for a frickin' two year old game."
I think this is a valid point, not sure why it was modded as flamebait.
Unless they did something to upgrade this game for the 2 year lag, then I agree with what he said. It's reasonable to assume that the majority of people playing Halo on an XBOX has a PC that could also play the game. Why not give them a reason to buy the game twice? Either make it cheap or offer a reasonable upgrade to it.
"Correct to have finished. There is more than one animator. Compare with 'Disney has finished', wherein Disney is a collective noun, which, in American English, is treated as a singular. True plurals, however, are not."
I wonder if there's a typo discussion forum somewhere on the web that Slashdot is attracting users from. www.analnazispelling.com
"So much for seamless eh! Thats the problem with flash, it goes against how the web works in so many ways."
I agree, that sucks. However, DivX is worse than Macromedia in that case. I had a problem the other day where I used 5.02 to play a 5.05 video, or something like that. The video would play for a bit and then halt. I didn't get a nice error message saying "Please update."
"Your argument is flawed anyway, flash is not needed for flash movies unless they are interactive. Give me a divx movie any day."
Except that Flash is considerably more bandwidth friendly than divx, and the quality is higher too. In another post, NG mentioned that Ninjai was running at roughly 2 meg a minute whereas a comparable DivX video would have been around 7 megs a minute. Flash also doesn't have the MPEG'y artifacts.
Ninjai is a special case because it uses both vector based imagery and actual JPEG backgrounds of paintings. A purely vector based movie could be scaled to any resolution and it'd still look very clean. That's not possible with raster based video such as divx.
My argument may be flawed, but it is no more flawed than the argument that Flash should disappear. If divx movies were to replace Flash, then I've got news for you, you'd still have those stupid intro pages and obnoxious ads. You'd kill a useful technology but you wouldn't do anything but wound the ppl who are annoying you with it.
"I repeat: they can adapt. If there is a way, they will find it if they work for it. If they don't want to put the effort into adapting, then they probably weren't passionate enough about their work."
The flaw in what you're saying is that the people who make stupid little flash ads are just as passionate to make the other techniques work as well. All you're doing is trading one annoyance for another, and burning the artists who are showing people the right way to make interesting content.
Your method will do nothing to solve that problem.
"Animated GIFs don't have sound and can't override your browers UI."
You can just turn your sound off. If somebody abuses sound, just click the mute button. See how easy it is to oversimplify and solve a prbolem?
.. the more games made of this franchise, the more 'defined' the unwritten rules of making a Final Fantasy game becomes. I'm not up to speed with Square as of late (stopped watching around FF7), but I can tell you I'm not surprised at some of the concern over the game. It kind of reminds me of Enterprise. I frequent a site that's populated by Trek fans, and their biggest bitch about that whole show is... the theme song. "WTF are they thinking? The show is supposed to have an orchestrated song! Those idiots! I could make the show better simply by choosing a different song!" heh.
Oh well. It's to be expected.
"This is to be done for the good of all of us, the artists can find a better and less abused media to work in."
.GIFs next?
There isn't a better solution. Flash's biggest appeal is that everybody has the plugin to view it.
"Tough, deal with it. This "media" as you call it must be destroyed because of the constant abuse."
Are animated
"Justifying the cots based solely on MPG isn't a fair assesment."
I think the point of his post wasn't to say "here is exactly how to do it", I think he was trying to say "do some math based on what you know." NG's not really an absolutist. I admit to being a little tainted, though. I've discussed this with him before.
It's no joke. This state has also considered using GPS to track where cars go in Oregon to base taxes on. This state's budget is so messed up lotsa stupid ideas are getting thrown out, and some of them are sticking.
"When it did, I watched about ten seconds of it, realized I didn't care, and closed the window.
So I agree with the parent that the death of Flash will be the most wonderful day in web browsing history."
Mighty bold debate style you have there. I personally wouldn't use ignorance to reinforce a heavy handed decision.
"Sweet-Ninjai does a great job to utilize the Flash technology."
I realize that Ninjai is an unusual case and that Flash is mostly used to be obnoxious. It just saddens me that projects like this would happily be sacrificed simply to deal with an annoyance that's more of a social problem than a technical one. Flash is a powerful media for artists. Don't kill it.
"You are aware, Congress, that you can't legislate the advace of technology right?"
You mean like Digital TV by 2006?
"The death of flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history since it's inception."
Go to http://www.ninjai.com, watch the 7 chapters that are available, and then tell me again you think the death of Flash would be the most wonderful day in web browsing history.
Flash isn't the problem, it's the gimmicky implementation of it. That doesn't mean it doesn't have some damn cool uses. Don't cure the disease by killing the man.
"You're accomplishments are not."
WTF? The guy wasn't trying to do anything new here, he was trying to learn. In doing so, he documented his progress for all to see. I'm not normally one to go ripping things apart, but I was actually half tempted to buy a used PS controller and try this myself. Is it really such a bad thing that he inspired one to learn how to reverse engineer?
This isn't one of those articles where you say "he could have done it cheaper!" Appreciate it for what it is, not for what it doesn't do for you.
"I appreciate the pioneering spirit here, but these things are far too expensive as it is. For the price of another controller I can get a peripheral that'll hook it to the computer."
You have been found guilty of behaviour unbefittinng of a geek. I hereby demote you to spaz. Please leave your geek badge at the door, and remove your Slashdot account immediately.
Wouldn't these laptops technically be 4-D? I mean, it's not like the monitor displays a static image. You have 4 variables here: x,y,z, and then t for time.
"Does anyone else also think that "overclocking" was mentioned just to get attention of /. editors ??"
No. The rest of us know that it was meant to be humorous.
"All people see in 2D, at least the ones I know. Most that I've met even think in 2D. This 3D monitor should be interesting, but what kind of brain implants and neural retraining will it require? And, is the radiation used for scanning safe?"
I would really like to have the dude who spent a mod point here chime in and tell us why he thought this was an 'interesting' comment.
"COPYRIGHT BEER! Yes, 12 year old girls are not enough! Now they want to sue us for drinking beer!"
This just in from Chicago... Al Bundy has left the city.
... that Slashdot was changing its name?
"SCO: See! The beer and fungus are derived from Linux which is derived from Unix which is owned by us, so pay up!"
By using these jokes, aren't you deriving work from SCO's previous works? (And those of about 3 million other Slashdotters with +4, Funny's next to their names?)
Saying TuxRacer will not give you cool points.