I'm going to go ahead and thank you for that informative post. If I weren't blacklisted from moderating because I posted (rather innocently) in the "poison thread" of 2003 I'd have used my mod points to counter the erroneous "troll" down-mods you suffered for this factual and enlightening post.
I did too, and being in a (presumably) different zip code (New England) and assuming a 2006 Grand Touring Roadster with 25k miles, the KBBV is $34,565. I guess it depends on where you live and what model you choose. Ignoring the fact that stripped base models of the 350Z are relatively rare, and without more details on the model/features, I guess we can only assume the value of the vehicle is somewhere between $22k and $35k. Halfway between is about $28.5k.
Which is considerably more than $20k. Over 40% more, in fact. Also note that the lowest of all possible low end prices that you chose is more than $20k. Which corroborates my original claim that the car is worth more than $20k.
Unless it's trashed and has huge mileage, a use 350Z is almost certainly worth more than $20k. But your counterpoint to the GP stands -- the tax burden won't be that bad. He could sell one of those 3 iphones he got along with the Z and cover it with money left over.
I don't belive computer games get rated so it can be changed back.
Of course PC games are rated, just the same as console games, and by the same organization. Have you ever bought a PC game? Notice the C/E/E10+/T/M/Ao logo in the corner of the cover? Yeah. That's the rating. If you doubt it, click here and select "Windows PC" in the "Platform" dropdown. They even rate Linux games (all 7 of them,) and PalmOS games, and WebTV games (WTF?,) and Zodic games, and...
It's nothing like trolling. It may be inaccurate (though a quick scan of the cited links seems to indicate otherwise) but it's not a troll post by any reasonable person's definition.
You're either not looking or your google-fu is weak. 136,000 hits. I can recommend advantech, but there are literally tons of models available, in singles or quantity.
$100-500 from advantech and a dozen or so Taiwanese manufacturers; google pc/104 or see the pc104.org site for a list. I personally like winsystems.com because they're top quality, have large temperature ranges, and have good support. But they cost more.
My 1996 chess program had no problem mating you in 3 as black given your ridiculously simple "proof of how dumb computers are" as a starting point. I hope you made a mistake in your post; if not I feel embarrassed for having bothered with the "little position [that you] whipped up in a couple of seconds."
EPIC and EBX are even cheaper than PC/104 and EPIA and not much bigger. But the good new is linux runs great on a $150 version of any of them. And anyone that uses windows, even (especially) CE, is a masochist. It all works out!
I can tell you how: know C/C++, linux, understand all kinds of IO and drivers (USB, Ethernet, RS-232 serial, touchscreens, RFID, barcode, magstripe) and live in the Boston area. I'm hiring 2-3 immediately, drop me an email. Huge plus if you know IEEE11073, HL7, UML, and/or ASN.1.
I guess that makes sense if you ignore marketing concepts. If you have a choice between showing that your mobo is smaller than a common computer component (a 3.5" hard drive) or showing that it's larger than a less-common component (a 2.5" hard drive,) what would you choose, assuming you want to sell product largely based on its size?
Looking at it another way, is it very hard for you to estimate how this mobo compares to a 2.5" drive having seen it next to a 3.5" drive?
1. Are they hard to find, or do you not know where to look? Protip: amazon.com and newegg.com are not good sources.
2. I thought they were targeted at the embedded system market, and if so they're really not that overpriced.
3. Where did you get "no warranty?" All the ones I've seen come with a fairly standard 1-year warranty
Your inability to comprehend the concept of an embedded system that needs to run x86 software or use standard hardware does not affect the usefulness of this product in any way.
Why would it make more sense to compare a mobo to a 2.5" drive instead of a 3.5" drive? And why should they "rethink" their target market? Do you know what an embedded system is?
(Warning: all links PDF) Maybe you'd like an EPIC, EBX, or if you want two systems in not much more than the space of a 5.25" drive, a PC/104. Get PC/104+ and you'll have a PCI bus instead of just ISA. You can stack them with modules that do just about anything. And they're cheap, like $100-$600 depending on CPU, all the way up to Core2 Duo.
That said, why is everyone evaluating an embedded system using criteria usually applied to laptops and/or desktops. Does no one here ever do (or even know about) embedded work anymore?
Good point; it would be totally impossible to make the table tilt to various positions. Nothing like that has ever been attempted, and if it were, it would surely not work. Tilting surfaces is beyond our mechanical abilities as a species.
Why would this not be as "scalable" for use with "multi-gigabyte flash cards" as any other wireless PC connection? 56MB+ wifi, bluetooth, wireless USB,...
And why would a "stray finger" matter? The one that has "a hold of" the thing you're dragging is still there. Why would the software necessarily be confused by another touch somewhere else? Did you notice that it can manage 56 simultaneous touches and works with many users at the same time?
I apologize if I'm interfering with your contrived effort to hate this thing.
I imagine those who can afford a $5-10k Surface computer can also afford to have it cleaned regularly, and more than likely will place it somewhere that dirty people can't very well afford to be very often. They might even provide little monitor cleaning wipes right there at the Surface to let you manage your germ phobia as you see fit!
Another desperate struggle to hate something neat because it's from MIKKKRO$OFT. Sigh. Must be hell with that woman -- she won't touch anything "dirty?" Yikes.
The only thing stranger than you sharing your ridiculous, contrived, and poorly-thought-out struggle to hate this interesting device is the fact that you managed to get up-modded for it -- insightful even!
Haha, indeed; you've shown your fetish for style over substance, for approval over independent thought, for stupidity over intelligence. Now go, mighty warrior of ignorance! Your next task is near at hand, for somewhere someone is actually thinking rationally! Stop them before it's too late!
Right on! Selective quoting is oh so clever. And forming your posts to garner moderation points is the hallmark of intelligence, because it's so very hard to get a mod point on slashdot. The funny (hypocritical?) thing is that your own post history, upon which you rely on for argumentative strength, includes a whopping two posts upmodded in your most recent 24, both noted as "funny," while my single upmod in my last 24 is "insightful."
And, if moderation points are the indicator of quality, note that your ridiculous (and unmoderated) post is a reply to a post moderated as "insightful." Uh oh. Now what?
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Uh, I think he said "SHUT UP." (Just trying to help -- was that loud enough?)
I'm going to go ahead and thank you for that informative post. If I weren't blacklisted from moderating because I posted (rather innocently) in the "poison thread" of 2003 I'd have used my mod points to counter the erroneous "troll" down-mods you suffered for this factual and enlightening post.
I did too, and being in a (presumably) different zip code (New England) and assuming a 2006 Grand Touring Roadster with 25k miles, the KBBV is $34,565. I guess it depends on where you live and what model you choose. Ignoring the fact that stripped base models of the 350Z are relatively rare, and without more details on the model/features, I guess we can only assume the value of the vehicle is somewhere between $22k and $35k. Halfway between is about $28.5k.
Which is considerably more than $20k. Over 40% more, in fact. Also note that the lowest of all possible low end prices that you chose is more than $20k. Which corroborates my original claim that the car is worth more than $20k.
Unless it's trashed and has huge mileage, a use 350Z is almost certainly worth more than $20k. But your counterpoint to the GP stands -- the tax burden won't be that bad. He could sell one of those 3 iphones he got along with the Z and cover it with money left over.
I don't belive computer games get rated so it can be changed back.
...
Of course PC games are rated, just the same as console games, and by the same organization. Have you ever bought a PC game? Notice the C/E/E10+/T/M/Ao logo in the corner of the cover? Yeah. That's the rating. If you doubt it, click here and select "Windows PC" in the "Platform" dropdown. They even rate Linux games (all 7 of them,) and PalmOS games, and WebTV games (WTF?,) and Zodic games, and
Why is this modded down as "troll?"
It's nothing like trolling. It may be inaccurate (though a quick scan of the cited links seems to indicate otherwise) but it's not a troll post by any reasonable person's definition.
Weird.
You're either not looking or your google-fu is weak. 136,000 hits. I can recommend advantech, but there are literally tons of models available, in singles or quantity.
$100-500 from advantech and a dozen or so Taiwanese manufacturers; google pc/104 or see the pc104.org site for a list. I personally like winsystems.com because they're top quality, have large temperature ranges, and have good support. But they cost more.
My 1996 chess program had no problem mating you in 3 as black given your ridiculously simple "proof of how dumb computers are" as a starting point. I hope you made a mistake in your post; if not I feel embarrassed for having bothered with the "little position [that you] whipped up in a couple of seconds."
EPIC and EBX are even cheaper than PC/104 and EPIA and not much bigger. But the good new is linux runs great on a $150 version of any of them. And anyone that uses windows, even (especially) CE, is a masochist. It all works out!
I can tell you how: know C/C++, linux, understand all kinds of IO and drivers (USB, Ethernet, RS-232 serial, touchscreens, RFID, barcode, magstripe) and live in the Boston area. I'm hiring 2-3 immediately, drop me an email. Huge plus if you know IEEE11073, HL7, UML, and/or ASN.1.
I guess that makes sense if you ignore marketing concepts. If you have a choice between showing that your mobo is smaller than a common computer component (a 3.5" hard drive) or showing that it's larger than a less-common component (a 2.5" hard drive,) what would you choose, assuming you want to sell product largely based on its size?
Looking at it another way, is it very hard for you to estimate how this mobo compares to a 2.5" drive having seen it next to a 3.5" drive?
1. Are they hard to find, or do you not know where to look? Protip: amazon.com and newegg.com are not good sources.
2. I thought they were targeted at the embedded system market, and if so they're really not that overpriced.
3. Where did you get "no warranty?" All the ones I've seen come with a fairly standard 1-year warranty
Your inability to comprehend the concept of an embedded system that needs to run x86 software or use standard hardware does not affect the usefulness of this product in any way.
Why would it make more sense to compare a mobo to a 2.5" drive instead of a 3.5" drive? And why should they "rethink" their target market? Do you know what an embedded system is?
That's quite a ridiculous attempt at being pedantic. cm != mm != m. "Units" includes the prefix.
(Warning: all links PDF) Maybe you'd like an EPIC, EBX, or if you want two systems in not much more than the space of a 5.25" drive, a PC/104. Get PC/104+ and you'll have a PCI bus instead of just ISA. You can stack them with modules that do just about anything. And they're cheap, like $100-$600 depending on CPU, all the way up to Core2 Duo.
That said, why is everyone evaluating an embedded system using criteria usually applied to laptops and/or desktops. Does no one here ever do (or even know about) embedded work anymore?
No it won't. The wiimote is the first first Bluetooth rumble controller.
"when they get this stuff to work with a brush I'll really be impressed."
Watch the videos at surface.microsoft.com and prepare to really be impressed. They use a paintbrush on it.
Good point; it would be totally impossible to make the table tilt to various positions. Nothing like that has ever been attempted, and if it were, it would surely not work. Tilting surfaces is beyond our mechanical abilities as a species.
Why would this not be as "scalable" for use with "multi-gigabyte flash cards" as any other wireless PC connection? 56MB+ wifi, bluetooth, wireless USB, ...
And why would a "stray finger" matter? The one that has "a hold of" the thing you're dragging is still there. Why would the software necessarily be confused by another touch somewhere else? Did you notice that it can manage 56 simultaneous touches and works with many users at the same time?
I apologize if I'm interfering with your contrived effort to hate this thing.
I imagine those who can afford a $5-10k Surface computer can also afford to have it cleaned regularly, and more than likely will place it somewhere that dirty people can't very well afford to be very often. They might even provide little monitor cleaning wipes right there at the Surface to let you manage your germ phobia as you see fit!
Another desperate struggle to hate something neat because it's from MIKKKRO$OFT. Sigh. Must be hell with that woman -- she won't touch anything "dirty?" Yikes.
Nowhere, actually. Isn't that funny and informative?
The only thing stranger than you sharing your ridiculous, contrived, and poorly-thought-out struggle to hate this interesting device is the fact that you managed to get up-modded for it -- insightful even!
Haha, indeed; you've shown your fetish for style over substance, for approval over independent thought, for stupidity over intelligence. Now go, mighty warrior of ignorance! Your next task is near at hand, for somewhere someone is actually thinking rationally! Stop them before it's too late!
Right on! Selective quoting is oh so clever. And forming your posts to garner moderation points is the hallmark of intelligence, because it's so very hard to get a mod point on slashdot. The funny (hypocritical?) thing is that your own post history, upon which you rely on for argumentative strength, includes a whopping two posts upmodded in your most recent 24, both noted as "funny," while my single upmod in my last 24 is "insightful."
And, if moderation points are the indicator of quality, note that your ridiculous (and unmoderated) post is a reply to a post moderated as "insightful." Uh oh. Now what?