Damn straight! I mean, who needs people? I find it so much more fun to play at my own LAN party, with all my life-sized celebrity cardboard cut-outs posed appropriately at each station.
They're not very good players, unfortunately. But at least they're not weenies.
Easier to play than AA (and much better, IMHO) is Battlefield 1942, particularly the free Desert Combat modern warfare mod you can download for it.
There are very few (useful) cheats, and the latest 1.6 patch includes PunkBuster and that's almost eliminated all traces of cheating. Even before PunkBuster, cheats were pretty rare, especially if you play on "pure" servers (which is most of them).
Not unlike the awesome old Team Fortress, BF1942 has a variety of classes you can play (assault, anti-armor, medic, engineer, scout, etc.) so there's a spot on the team for everyone, even those without the experience or trigger-happy twitch fingers.
And, very much unlike all other FPS games, there are vehicles. Planes, tanks, battleships, humvees, helicopters, motorcycles, artillery, etc. This, to me, add so much to the genre that I have trouble playing other FPSs without getting bored quickly. Vehicles can also be a good equalizer -- no matter how twitch fast that enemy is, if you're in a tank, and he's on foot, he's toast.
As an added bonus, you can find 64-man games pretty easily, which makes it even easier to get along without a lot of expertise. You can play a support role (engineer, medic) effectively with little practice, and so you'll be able to help your team win even while learning your skills.
You can pick up a copy in the stores for about $35-40, or online for $20 or less. There are two "offical" addons: Rode To Rome ($15) and Secret Weapons ($20), but neither are required to play. And, if you gravitate toward the DC mod (as most have, based on recent server stats), the add-ons are totally useless.
Oh, and the number one most important thing you need to work on to be good at FPS games is your config. That is, how you assign your player functions to your mouse and keyboard keys (please resist any temptation you may have to not use your mouse for looking around). Think about this carefully before you just slop something together. Otherwise you'll get used to a bad config and have trouble switching from it later when you realize that you need to be able to do action A and B together a lot, but you've got them both assigned to keys that use the same finger.
Huh? How's that? I mean, assuming the same CPU in both cases, and besides the IDE/text editor/simulator, how exactly is programming assembly language "under" or "in" Linux different than doing the same under DOS/Windows?
This is neither a troll nor a flame, though maybe I'll be modded such for implying these acts are one in the same (they are), but I'm just trying to understand what distinction you're making before I comment further.
Just as boobsea indicated above, this post is also an exact duplicate of a reply to that post.
Now it seems that people are duplicating entire previous threads. How very strange.
See, it's pretty common trolling practice on/. to copy and paste old highly-modded posts from previous threads (when the story itself is a dupe, or at least on the same topic). Usually, the troll is counting on getting modded up so that he or she can garner a bit of karma to blow later on goatse links or BSD is dead trolls, or similar.
The odd thing about this case is that the duplicating poster is an AC, so no one is getting any karma. So, what's the point?
The only thing I can think of is that it's some sort of half-assed attempt at being funny or protesting/. dupe stories. Whatever, it's still weird.
I don't have a tivo (though I've used one), I have a replayTV. It does nada for web or mp3 (but if you stick on a mpeg with no video, it'll play the sound -- useless hassle, but I tested it just for fun). I use the pc with the avcast for that -- the all rooms at once is nice there (at least, all rooms tuned to channel 80 on cable).
I will probably download the latest Myth and try it out. I like the idea of being able to make (or mode likely, download) modules for it. Not sure what else I need, but I do have spare pc's looking for applications:).
Thanks again for the info. Nice to have a decent conversation on/. without trolls and AC flaming all over the place.
Thanks for the detailed info. I wasn't really asking for the full feature list though, just the extra features versus a Tivo or replayTV. But I guess if you don't have one it might be easier to do the full list.
BTW, DVarchive (the Java app) isn't a PVR or anything on the replay -- it's an app that connects your replay to a PC (not for Tivo) so you can send video or whatever back and forth -- basically makes your PC into a replay. Good for backup / burning to DVD / accessing the big storehouse (0.75TB of network storage) of goodies from the replay.
A few things I noticed missing from your list, however, are pretty important to me:
- "Season pass" (record all episodes of some show skipping all dupes/reruns)
- "Themes" (record anything with "foo" in the name AND directed by "Mr. Smith" AND starring "Jane Doe" AND "rated TV-MA"), etc.
- Program / Admin / schedule recordings from work or anywhere via a webserver (myReplay)
Are those currently supported or planned as far as you know?
I guess it would be cool to have it all in one (were it really "all"), but everything else on your list that replay can't do is handled by my avcast hooked up to a WinXP box (I used to use XP Pro, but I just switched it to MediaCenter XP after I stumbled on a copy:) )
I control that box with an RF remote or any of the wireless laptops (also have an RF mouse/keyboard if I want to admin remotely sans laptop). That box goes in the cold basement, so there's no noise or heat at all in the living room. It dual-boots RedHat too, and I have considered putting MythTV on it for funsies. The TVout output from that machine is injected, via avcast, onto cable channel 80 (which is otherwise unused on my cable system) on every TV in the house with no new wires (just the existing coax). So, whatever I can run on any PC, Windoze or Linux, can be seen on any TV, and controlled from the room that TV is in. I can start a movie in the living room, pause it, and resume from the bedroom.
Oh, and you still didn't mention the price. That's pretty important. I know my PC hooked up to the AVcast cost a lot more than my replay + lifetime guide data. The avcast itself I got two of for $50 (they were on sale). I was going to sell the second one, but now I've decided to keep it -- just in case my other one flakes out ($200 new, now).
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Riight, hue and contrast are irrelevant to a video recording application. My bad.
Thanks -- interesting post. What did the system cost you?
FYI, Xbox replacement isn't on my radar (PC online FPS only here).
And, could you be more specific on what more functionality I could get from that setup compared to a Replay 5040 (upgraded to 250Gb) and DVArchive?
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SCO -- heh, that's so funny. Anyway, so how do you explain this direct quote then:
Apparently, the next version (2) of Sage will be available in early February 2004, and these picture adjustment issues will be much easier to grapple with.
If it "works fine", why is he looking forward to an update?
Read the article -- I'm not the one who twisted things. That was my point, actually -- that the relatively glowing conclusion seemed rather unwarranted in context of the rest of the article.
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6. Conclusions
This is only my second day as a PVR equipped husband and already my wife has forgotten about TiVo. She watches episodes of Charmed and the Gilmore Girls and grins as she fast forwards through commercials. As for me, I have been spending quality time with John Stewart - his show on the Iowa Caucases was not to be missed.
Yes, this little project ended up being a little more pricey than I had expected, about $800 total, but I am left with an expandable and powerful system capable of doing a lot more than any TiVo can do. Perhaps the whole thing was silly. After all, VCR's basically do the same thing right?
Hey, kudos to him for getting it working. Most of the stories I've read in this genre end up with the author buying a ReplayTV or TiVO because his creation failed the spouse test. Or just wouldn't work reliably. According to the conclusion, wifey is as happy as a clam.
But:
Soon the sound started falling behind the movement of his lips. That was no good. Plus his body blurred when he moved. My hero, John Stewart was jittery and smeared. The wife grumbled.
So, we have $800 for a TiVO with a relatively unreliable guide with less info, no auto-commercial skip (as in 50XX series ReplayTV's), lots of fans and noise, 3x the power use, and picture quality issues that will be fixed Real Soon Now:
After all of this, the picture was better, but John Stewart still looked unintentionally silly.
Apparently, the next version (2) of Sage will be available in early February 2004, and these picture adjustment issues will be much easier to grapple with.
In my experience, SageTV always has image quality and sync problems (and they always blame the OS, or the video card, or cosmic radiation, etc. -- I got a refund). I really do want to make my own PVR one day, but I'm afraid the time is not yet right. Almost, but not quite.
As you will no doubt glean if you read the document completely, there are a lof of "Oh, and I forgot"'s in order -- that's why they made the doc and, presumably, why it's posted here. So, please hold the preemptive (and thus incomplete) summary. It's useful info for us all to read.
Then again, looks like all the other threads below are mired in conversations about nukes, Amerika-bashing, and other offtopic stuff, so at least you're on topic.
Yep, ABET is enough for me. You're an engineer (for whatever that's worth from me:)).
No offense was intended -- but at the schools I'm familiar with (UF, MIT) CS is distinct from CE, and CE is a subset of EE, but it's not in the degree title. That is, you can get an EE "specializing" in Computer Engineering. It's still called a "BSEE". So, the "Computer Engineers" I know all have BSEE's. They're EE's who specialized in digital and skipped some analog/fields stuff. Sounds like that's what you did.
And then there's CS. It has "computer" in the name of the degree (EE doesn't). Seems there's a trend, even at MIT to add "Enginnering" to the name of the CS degree in some desccriptions, but the paper you get won't include the word "Engineering". There's still three distinct degrees there, "Bachelor of Science in Electrical Science and Engineering" (BSEE), "Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science" (BSEE -or- BSCS -- you pick), and "Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Engineering" (BSCS).
Keep reading down the page to see the requirements and what the degree will say. BSCS isn't engineering, IMHO. It's science. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
And how have train-engine-operators been able to be called engineers?
They had it first, so we EE's cut them slack. If it helps you, think of it this way: they are "Engine-ers (injun-ers)", as in, "one who controls an engine". Not "Engineers (injun-eers)". BTW, you could be that too, if you could drive a train.
Computer Engineering is an offshoot of Electrical Engineering
I think you misspelled undershoot. Or perhaps failure.
Does this make me an engineer or not?
Not.
I've certainly taken all the course work and have a degree by that title from an accredited engineering program.
Er, accredited by whom? ABET doesn't accredit Comuter Science as "Engineering". Sorry.
Relative to what -- Nazi Germany? Then yes, that's exactly what I am asserting. There is always some recourse and accountability (however slow) as far as I've seen (unverifyable/. anectodes notwithstanding), and I don't think any person or group is really that far above the law in practice.
To be fair, I tried to come up with an answer to "relative to what?" that would make me reverse my assertion, but I can't think of one. Maybe you can help?
Hey, I really hope you work out that angst you have for your folks about that tuition power-play they pulled on you. Really, talk it out with them. You'll feel much better when they die if you do.
Bullshit. No matter how many times anyone reads your first post they will not find any mention of "a way for those interested in making money to make more money".
And if you think giving daily updates on release schedules will make more money (hell, I know it's weak, but that's the only meat in your vapid post), it is you that doesn't "know the market".
Judging by your posts in other threads you seem like a relatively sane and intelligent individual, so why are you posting such stupidity in this one? Is it trolltime?
Show use how open-source game engines can (or better, do) make more money than closed-source ones or please STFU. Your silly ideology is getting annoying.
Who's upset? Your comments were laughable. At least, at first. Then, after a few kind sanity checks (and a few less than kind ones), you defended your position further, which honestly made me think you were most likely, you know, touched in the head. Slow, in some way, if you will. Were it not for the fact that your other posts are mildly sane, you wouldn't be reading this reply.
I think you'd do well to re-read your own posts in context and think about each sentence. I'll try to help, but I'm afraid IHBT already so I'll keep it minimal to get the points across, though I will include both of your posts:
If Valve tries to make the claim in court that HL2 was postponed until April because of the source code theft, that will become fraud on their part.
This is a non-sequitir. If souce code containing security routines (both anti-online-cheat and copy-protection/serial validation) is compromised, a delay is reasonable. Whether or not it's true is irrelevant here -- if they say so, no one can reasonably contradict. In any case, it wouldn't be "fraud" to claim that martians delayed the source code by failing to create a sufficient number of crop circles. It's unprovable and irrelevant either way. See, Valve and no one else (including you) gets any input whatsoever into what their release date is -- if the say the foo caused it, then the foo caused it -- who cares?. If you meant to say that if they claim damages due to a release date extension, well that's not fraud either, it's simply irrelevant -- Halflife2 does not have a market window to compete with other Halflife2's -- so no damages would be awarded on the delay in any conceivable suit. Damages might be awarded because of time and money spent to re-write compromised code, and that's reasonable. Fraud isn't playing a role in this.
Until now it was just harmless marketing lies.
To what antecedent does "it" refer? This makes no sense -- do you mean "delays/schedule slips"? If so, how is this relevant? It's a rather acidic comment that, well, distracts and annoys.
The delay had little if anything to do with the code theft -- that was only a convenient excuse.
You have no idea of the source of any delay. Had you, you would posit some evidence (or at least some reasoning). Again, the words of a ninny befoul my eyes.
Someday I would like to see a game company create a game in an open way.
Here's where it gets extra silly. It's been tried, and it failed. Try researching some before spewing your "great ideas" that are this far out of the box.
They should have all their engine code out in the open so anybody could follow the progress and even contribute if they felt like it.
Suuure. ("Riiight" was taken). Why should they do this? To be as successful as the other open source game engines (read: not at all)?
They would not need to make up stuff about release dates because the public could easily find out the status of completion themselves.
Your incredible lack of understanding of marketing rears its ugly head. Hype, anticipation, and fanboi fury simply add to the desire (and ultimately, the sales) -- it's often intentional, and it works. Why should any developer care to have the public (fanbois, especially) looking over their shoulder as they code, weathering annoying questions from the wholly unqualified masses (such as yourself)? What's the benefit? Truly, the fact that you care enough to ask (or whine) about release dates simply means you care and you will buy it if it ever makes it to market -- how hard did you cry for updates and release date info for Halflife1? Zero -- because you didn't even know they were making it or that it would be so good -- did that hurt HL sales? Would giving more insight into their development status have helped the sales, or simply wasted their time? (Uh oh, I shouldn't ask rhetorical ques
Hey, I'm with you -- you're preaching to the choir. My gripe is with the extreme anti-Ameri"k"an blatantly wrong claim, to wit:
Anything they seize in the course of an investigation is pretty much theirs now and there's nothing you can do about it. Federal Law Enforcement is basically untouchable. Welcome to Amerika.
Taking something like this so far as to make false, FUD-mongering claims is worse than saying nothing at all. It destroys our credibility and makes us look like ninnies.
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Damn straight! I mean, who needs people? I find it so much more fun to play at my own LAN party, with all my life-sized celebrity cardboard cut-outs posed appropriately at each station.
They're not very good players, unfortunately. But at least they're not weenies.
Easier to play than AA (and much better, IMHO) is Battlefield 1942, particularly the free Desert Combat modern warfare mod you can download for it.
There are very few (useful) cheats, and the latest 1.6 patch includes PunkBuster and that's almost eliminated all traces of cheating. Even before PunkBuster, cheats were pretty rare, especially if you play on "pure" servers (which is most of them).
Not unlike the awesome old Team Fortress, BF1942 has a variety of classes you can play (assault, anti-armor, medic, engineer, scout, etc.) so there's a spot on the team for everyone, even those without the experience or trigger-happy twitch fingers.
And, very much unlike all other FPS games, there are vehicles. Planes, tanks, battleships, humvees, helicopters, motorcycles, artillery, etc. This, to me, add so much to the genre that I have trouble playing other FPSs without getting bored quickly. Vehicles can also be a good equalizer -- no matter how twitch fast that enemy is, if you're in a tank, and he's on foot, he's toast.
As an added bonus, you can find 64-man games pretty easily, which makes it even easier to get along without a lot of expertise. You can play a support role (engineer, medic) effectively with little practice, and so you'll be able to help your team win even while learning your skills.
You can pick up a copy in the stores for about $35-40, or online for $20 or less. There are two "offical" addons: Rode To Rome ($15) and Secret Weapons ($20), but neither are required to play. And, if you gravitate toward the DC mod (as most have, based on recent server stats), the add-ons are totally useless.
Oh, and the number one most important thing you need to work on to be good at FPS games is your config. That is, how you assign your player functions to your mouse and keyboard keys (please resist any temptation you may have to not use your mouse for looking around). Think about this carefully before you just slop something together. Otherwise you'll get used to a bad config and have trouble switching from it later when you realize that you need to be able to do action A and B together a lot, but you've got them both assigned to keys that use the same finger.
Huh? How's that? I mean, assuming the same CPU in both cases, and besides the IDE/text editor/simulator, how exactly is programming assembly language "under" or "in" Linux different than doing the same under DOS/Windows?
This is neither a troll nor a flame, though maybe I'll be modded such for implying these acts are one in the same (they are), but I'm just trying to understand what distinction you're making before I comment further.
Just as boobsea indicated above, this post is also an exact duplicate of a reply to that post.
/. to copy and paste old highly-modded posts from previous threads (when the story itself is a dupe, or at least on the same topic). Usually, the troll is counting on getting modded up so that he or she can garner a bit of karma to blow later on goatse links or BSD is dead trolls, or similar.
/. dupe stories. Whatever, it's still weird.
Now it seems that people are duplicating entire previous threads. How very strange.
See, it's pretty common trolling practice on
The odd thing about this case is that the duplicating poster is an AC, so no one is getting any karma. So, what's the point?
The only thing I can think of is that it's some sort of half-assed attempt at being funny or protesting
That's an interesting comment, but at the risk of getting modded down, I have to ask:
In what ways do Bill and/or Microsoft impede yours (or anyone's) ability to improve software?
I'm not trolling here, I'm seriously cusious. Thanks in advance for your reply.
I don't have a tivo (though I've used one), I have a replayTV. It does nada for web or mp3 (but if you stick on a mpeg with no video, it'll play the sound -- useless hassle, but I tested it just for fun). I use the pc with the avcast for that -- the all rooms at once is nice there (at least, all rooms tuned to channel 80 on cable).
:).
/. without trolls and AC flaming all over the place.
I will probably download the latest Myth and try it out. I like the idea of being able to make (or mode likely, download) modules for it. Not sure what else I need, but I do have spare pc's looking for applications
Thanks again for the info. Nice to have a decent conversation on
Thanks for the detailed info. I wasn't really asking for the full feature list though, just the extra features versus a Tivo or replayTV. But I guess if you don't have one it might be easier to do the full list.
:) )
BTW, DVarchive (the Java app) isn't a PVR or anything on the replay -- it's an app that connects your replay to a PC (not for Tivo) so you can send video or whatever back and forth -- basically makes your PC into a replay. Good for backup / burning to DVD / accessing the big storehouse (0.75TB of network storage) of goodies from the replay.
A few things I noticed missing from your list, however, are pretty important to me:
- "Season pass" (record all episodes of some show skipping all dupes/reruns)
- "Themes" (record anything with "foo" in the name AND directed by "Mr. Smith" AND starring "Jane Doe" AND "rated TV-MA"), etc.
- Program / Admin / schedule recordings from work or anywhere via a webserver (myReplay)
Are those currently supported or planned as far as you know?
I guess it would be cool to have it all in one (were it really "all"), but everything else on your list that replay can't do is handled by my avcast hooked up to a WinXP box (I used to use XP Pro, but I just switched it to MediaCenter XP after I stumbled on a copy
I control that box with an RF remote or any of the wireless laptops (also have an RF mouse/keyboard if I want to admin remotely sans laptop). That box goes in the cold basement, so there's no noise or heat at all in the living room. It dual-boots RedHat too, and I have considered putting MythTV on it for funsies. The TVout output from that machine is injected, via avcast, onto cable channel 80 (which is otherwise unused on my cable system) on every TV in the house with no new wires (just the existing coax). So, whatever I can run on any PC, Windoze or Linux, can be seen on any TV, and controlled from the room that TV is in. I can start a movie in the living room, pause it, and resume from the bedroom.
Oh, and you still didn't mention the price. That's pretty important. I know my PC hooked up to the AVcast cost a lot more than my replay + lifetime guide data. The avcast itself I got two of for $50 (they were on sale). I was going to sell the second one, but now I've decided to keep it -- just in case my other one flakes out ($200 new, now).
Riight, hue and contrast are irrelevant to a video recording application. My bad.
Thanks -- interesting post. What did the system cost you?
FYI, Xbox replacement isn't on my radar (PC online FPS only here).
And, could you be more specific on what more functionality I could get from that setup compared to a Replay 5040 (upgraded to 250Gb) and DVArchive?
SCO -- heh, that's so funny. Anyway, so how do you explain this direct quote then:
Apparently, the next version (2) of Sage will be available in early February 2004, and these picture adjustment issues will be much easier to grapple with.
If it "works fine", why is he looking forward to an update?
Read the article -- I'm not the one who twisted things. That was my point, actually -- that the relatively glowing conclusion seemed rather unwarranted in context of the rest of the article.
6. Conclusions
This is only my second day as a PVR equipped husband and already my wife has forgotten about TiVo. She watches episodes of Charmed and the Gilmore Girls and grins as she fast forwards through commercials. As for me, I have been spending quality time with John Stewart - his show on the Iowa Caucases was not to be missed.
Yes, this little project ended up being a little more pricey than I had expected, about $800 total, but I am left with an expandable and powerful system capable of doing a lot more than any TiVo can do. Perhaps the whole thing was silly. After all, VCR's basically do the same thing right?
Hey, kudos to him for getting it working. Most of the stories I've read in this genre end up with the author buying a ReplayTV or TiVO because his creation failed the spouse test. Or just wouldn't work reliably. According to the conclusion, wifey is as happy as a clam.
But:
Soon the sound started falling behind the movement of his lips. That was no good. Plus his body blurred when he moved. My hero, John Stewart was jittery and smeared. The wife grumbled.
So, we have $800 for a TiVO with a relatively unreliable guide with less info, no auto-commercial skip (as in 50XX series ReplayTV's), lots of fans and noise, 3x the power use, and picture quality issues that will be fixed Real Soon Now:
After all of this, the picture was better, but John Stewart still looked unintentionally silly.
Apparently, the next version (2) of Sage will be available in early February 2004, and these picture adjustment issues will be much easier to grapple with.
In my experience, SageTV always has image quality and sync problems (and they always blame the OS, or the video card, or cosmic radiation, etc. -- I got a refund). I really do want to make my own PVR one day, but I'm afraid the time is not yet right. Almost, but not quite.
As you will no doubt glean if you read the document completely, there are a lof of "Oh, and I forgot"'s in order -- that's why they made the doc and, presumably, why it's posted here. So, please hold the preemptive (and thus incomplete) summary. It's useful info for us all to read.
Then again, looks like all the other threads below are mired in conversations about nukes, Amerika-bashing, and other offtopic stuff, so at least you're on topic.
Yep, ABET is enough for me. You're an engineer (for whatever that's worth from me :)).
No offense was intended -- but at the schools I'm familiar with (UF, MIT) CS is distinct from CE, and CE is a subset of EE, but it's not in the degree title. That is, you can get an EE "specializing" in Computer Engineering. It's still called a "BSEE". So, the "Computer Engineers" I know all have BSEE's. They're EE's who specialized in digital and skipped some analog/fields stuff. Sounds like that's what you did.
And then there's CS. It has "computer" in the name of the degree (EE doesn't). Seems there's a trend, even at MIT to add "Enginnering" to the name of the CS degree in some desccriptions, but the paper you get won't include the word "Engineering". There's still three distinct degrees there, "Bachelor of Science in Electrical Science and Engineering" (BSEE), "Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science" (BSEE -or- BSCS -- you pick), and "Bachelor of Science in Computer Science and Engineering" (BSCS).
Keep reading down the page to see the requirements and what the degree will say. BSCS isn't engineering, IMHO. It's science. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
And how have train-engine-operators been able to be called engineers?
They had it first, so we EE's cut them slack. If it helps you, think of it this way: they are "Engine-ers (injun-ers)", as in, "one who controls an engine". Not "Engineers (injun-eers)". BTW, you could be that too, if you could drive a train.
Computer Engineering is an offshoot of Electrical Engineering
I think you misspelled undershoot. Or perhaps failure.
Does this make me an engineer or not?
Not.
I've certainly taken all the course work and have a degree by that title from an accredited engineering program.
Er, accredited by whom? ABET doesn't accredit Comuter Science as "Engineering". Sorry.
It's the internet; you can say shit.
Keep waiting.
But I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
Whoa -- great article, thanks for the link. But just for the record (in context): crack != bud. Not even close.
Relative to what -- Nazi Germany? Then yes, that's exactly what I am asserting. There is always some recourse and accountability (however slow) as far as I've seen (unverifyable /. anectodes notwithstanding), and I don't think any person or group is really that far above the law in practice.
To be fair, I tried to come up with an answer to "relative to what?" that would make me reverse my assertion, but I can't think of one. Maybe you can help?
Hey, I really hope you work out that angst you have for your folks about that tuition power-play they pulled on you. Really, talk it out with them. You'll feel much better when they die if you do.
Seriously.
"It" doesn't exist yet. We can pick up from here when (if) it's released.
And where did you learn that its engine is open? Their FAQ does not mention it. Seems like it would, were it.
How can you know who to hire if you don't allow all the people you might hire to start submitting code?
Look for the best mods after you release your (safe) SDK.
look at any interesting open-source project from over the past few years (and/or decade)
You first: name a financially successful open-source game engine.
Bullshit. No matter how many times anyone reads your first post they will not find any mention of "a way for those interested in making money to make more money".
And if you think giving daily updates on release schedules will make more money (hell, I know it's weak, but that's the only meat in your vapid post), it is you that doesn't "know the market".
Judging by your posts in other threads you seem like a relatively sane and intelligent individual, so why are you posting such stupidity in this one? Is it trolltime?
Show use how open-source game engines can (or better, do) make more money than closed-source ones or please STFU. Your silly ideology is getting annoying.
No, please ignore the idiot.
Who's upset? Your comments were laughable. At least, at first. Then, after a few kind sanity checks (and a few less than kind ones), you defended your position further, which honestly made me think you were most likely, you know, touched in the head. Slow, in some way, if you will. Were it not for the fact that your other posts are mildly sane, you wouldn't be reading this reply.
I think you'd do well to re-read your own posts in context and think about each sentence. I'll try to help, but I'm afraid IHBT already so I'll keep it minimal to get the points across, though I will include both of your posts:
If Valve tries to make the claim in court that HL2 was postponed until April because of the source code theft, that will become fraud on their part.
This is a non-sequitir. If souce code containing security routines (both anti-online-cheat and copy-protection/serial validation) is compromised, a delay is reasonable. Whether or not it's true is irrelevant here -- if they say so, no one can reasonably contradict. In any case, it wouldn't be "fraud" to claim that martians delayed the source code by failing to create a sufficient number of crop circles. It's unprovable and irrelevant either way. See, Valve and no one else (including you) gets any input whatsoever into what their release date is -- if the say the foo caused it, then the foo caused it -- who cares?. If you meant to say that if they claim damages due to a release date extension, well that's not fraud either, it's simply irrelevant -- Halflife2 does not have a market window to compete with other Halflife2's -- so no damages would be awarded on the delay in any conceivable suit. Damages might be awarded because of time and money spent to re-write compromised code, and that's reasonable. Fraud isn't playing a role in this.
Until now it was just harmless marketing lies.
To what antecedent does "it" refer? This makes no sense -- do you mean "delays/schedule slips"? If so, how is this relevant? It's a rather acidic comment that, well, distracts and annoys.
The delay had little if anything to do with the code theft -- that was only a convenient excuse.
You have no idea of the source of any delay. Had you, you would posit some evidence (or at least some reasoning). Again, the words of a ninny befoul my eyes.
Someday I would like to see a game company create a game in an open way.
Here's where it gets extra silly. It's been tried, and it failed. Try researching some before spewing your "great ideas" that are this far out of the box.
They should have all their engine code out in the open so anybody could follow the progress and even contribute if they felt like it.
Suuure. ("Riiight" was taken). Why should they do this? To be as successful as the other open source game engines (read: not at all)?
They would not need to make up stuff about release dates because the public could easily find out the status of completion themselves.
Your incredible lack of understanding of marketing rears its ugly head. Hype, anticipation, and fanboi fury simply add to the desire (and ultimately, the sales) -- it's often intentional, and it works. Why should any developer care to have the public (fanbois, especially) looking over their shoulder as they code, weathering annoying questions from the wholly unqualified masses (such as yourself)? What's the benefit? Truly, the fact that you care enough to ask (or whine) about release dates simply means you care and you will buy it if it ever makes it to market -- how hard did you cry for updates and release date info for Halflife1? Zero -- because you didn't even know they were making it or that it would be so good -- did that hurt HL sales? Would giving more insight into their development status have helped the sales, or simply wasted their time? (Uh oh, I shouldn't ask rhetorical ques
Hey, I'm with you -- you're preaching to the choir. My gripe is with the extreme anti-Ameri"k"an blatantly wrong claim, to wit:
Anything they seize in the course of an investigation is pretty much theirs now and there's nothing you can do about it. Federal Law Enforcement is basically untouchable. Welcome to Amerika.
Taking something like this so far as to make false, FUD-mongering claims is worse than saying nothing at all. It destroys our credibility and makes us look like ninnies.