Somehow, $1 a song does't quite seem like a rip off does it?
It does, as it is even more expensive than the usual rip-off prices in the stores, even ignoring the fact that that downloaded stuff is far inferior to a "real" CD. Here in Germany, the price is up to nearly 20,- for a normal CD, and I consider about 8,- to 10,- being a fair price. After all, we're still waiting for the music industry to fulfill the promise of CDs becoming "soon" cheaper than the vinyl record was before!
I agree with one thing: this will be no way for me until the prices drop under what's reasonable for a real CD. Which means incl. covers, media and case it should not cost more than 7,- for an album. That there has to be no DRM or any other stuff like this should be common sense.
And, please, no "but there are only two good songs on an album, and here you can buy only the good songs, so calculate this out" nonsense!
And, for the corps tell the customers what to to and not the other way round: just look which way the legislation has been going for the last years in the western countries. Most laws strenghten the position of them and not ours.:-( Next thing is they will be enabled to sue you just for not buying their products or other bullshit.
At least the artist has no debt to his record company if i d/l it via Kazaa or else. There are artists who sold 250K albums and their record company still wanted some 10K $ from them!
This is absolute asshole behaviour, which I would not tolerate. I'd answer about none of their questions because it's not their fscking business! Either they'd accuse me of something with the needed evidence or they let me go where I want to, especially if I want to go OUT of their country!
I've never been to Israel and hope that the normal people there are more like the only two Israelis I met before, which were really nice people. I can only wonder why they elect such a war criminal, murderer and fascist like Scharon and the other assholes for being their leaders.
Just storing this extremly dangrous waste is exactly what I mean with "messing around". Here in Europe they even carry this stuff around to fresh it up again.
We should know a way to eliminate the danger of the waste [B]before[/B] using such stuff!
You're one of those left wing bedwetting liberals who believes a person's life is worth more than anything
Oh my, shall I call you a right wing facist murderer now? No, I'm one of the reasonable persons who thinks that nobody should presume the right to kill other people.
You're probably against the death penalty, too
Sure, and for several reasons. First of all I think that no man has the right to kill another man except in direct self defense. Second, death penalty is useless, it does not decrease the number of crimes, in fact it *increases* the number of murders because the criminals don't want to have a witness who can send them to death row. Then look at the number of wrong death sentences already happened in your history and you have one more reason, which alone is reason enough to eliminate death sentence from the law, as it's pretty hard to rehabilitate. Death sentence's only real purpose is to satisfy people's thirst for revenge.
What about some sick fuck rapist who does little children?
You say it yourself, such people are really *sick*. People must be protected from such persons, not by killing them but by keeping them for the rest of their lifes where they belong: safely locked away in a psychiatry.
Is his life worth more than a material item? How about a murderer? Was Ted Bundy's life worth more than a material item?
Sure.
A pile of shit is worth more than the life of a hard criminal. You're a fucking idiot if you think that someone who would rob, rape, or murder is worth anything. Period.
No comment on this one, and now really EOD before I lower myself on your brainless-aggressive level.
no, they cracked the earlier version of the highly specialized softawre.
Yes, and I assume that the reason that there's no crack available for the later version is that it's useable for a small group of people only. If it was something for Joe Average, you sure would find a crack.
Yes, if I find him in my home in the process of stealing my TV, I do think it's ok to shoot him. What would you do? Ask him to "please leave"?
That would depend on the situation. If I was that scared and the risk was higher than it's here, I'd have a gas gun or a taser in my home to stop a criminal being a threat. Then there's plenty time to call the cops.
it's highly likely that you'll be shot or stabbed because they don't want you calling the cops
As I said before, it's rather unlikely for such a criminal to carry a gun. Other weapons May be, but so could you use other weapons.
Oh, and as an aside: My property is worth more than the life of a person who would break into my home and steal it.
You are an asshole. Material stuff can never be worth more than a person's life!
Yes, but can you get fired for sleeping with the virtual Executive Secretary?
Please tell me where f*cking the exec secretary is a reason to get fired, so I know where I'll never apply for a job. With whom I have sex has to be of no interest to my boss, except if his/her husband/wife is involved!
Perhaps you are not from the US... Millions upon millions of homeowners have private, monitored alarm systems
No, I'm from Germany. You'll find alarm systems mainly in really rich people's houses.
Burglars come in with a weapon looking to steal your stuff, and when confronted, are likely to attack you.
Here the usual burglar does not even carry a weapon.
Furthermore, I should be able to shoot his ass just for stealing my property.
That are wild west manners in best judge Lynch style which do not suit a civilized person. And this attitude is one reason why I think firearms and several other kinds of weapons should be banned with as little exceptions as possible (hunting, sports, police).
(Actually, I can, in my state)
This may be so, but it does not make it morally justified.
That property represents a portion of my life in which I worked hard to save the money to obtain it.
Man, wake up! It is just material stuff! If it was property which you really can't live without, ok, I could understand. But do you really think it's ok to shoot someone just because he steals your new 50" TV set?
So everyone that has an alarm system on their home is paranoid? Hmmm. That's a lot of paranoid people out there.
I know no one who has an alarm system in the private appartment ot house, only in business.
I'll never wake up to find an intruder standing at the foot of my bed.
That's why I call you paranoid! Such thing is highly unlikely.
If he breaks into my home, I get to shoot him. I have a concealed weapons permit and I've researched the laws in my state, as everyone who owns weapons should do.
It may be legal in your country, but shooting a person without the need of direct self defense is IMO murder. Death sentence may be the law in some states, but I call that murder, too.
If he's in my house, I'll shoot on first sight.
IMO shooting only is justified in self defense. That means, when you are being attacked, not only because this asshole broke into your house!
The lives of my wife and children are a hell of a lot more valuable than the life of some scumbag who just broke into my home.
The usual burglar does not come for murder, you know?
You're not supposed to, but what are you going to do, let Joe Burglar to murder you because it's illegal to break open the ammo tin?
Why are you so paraniod about people breaking into your house to murder you? The average burglar is not equipped with firearms. I know a rather large number of people and have never heard from anyone whose house has been broken into except a burglary in the apartment under mine. Besides, if you had to open that tin first, Joe B. had plenty of time to stop you from killing him.
why wouldn't you buy ammo from one of the 3,000 shooting ranges
Because I doubt that they will sell you ammo for take-away. But I don't know how they handle this in Switzerland.
Every male Swiss citizen
Even the ones who did not serve in the Bundesheer?
compulsory military service
The also can do civilan service.
Swiss are just more civilised that USians
There is less poverty and discrimination, in combination with a lack of the "wild west"-history of the USA. Which means violence is a much more common and accepted thing in the US society and poverty and discrimination are best suited to bring this violence to the surface.
Ever hear of Saddam? Don't give me the excuse that it cant happen today. It can happen to any populace that cant defend itself, or is not diligent.
I think that a populace who would defend themselves with guns against someone like Saddam would never let him get into power at first hand.
Ever hear of hunting animals?
With the typical six-shooter? No.:) OK, but this is one point you got, for hunting purposes there should be exceptions like here in Germany (transport of the gun only while disassembled, safe storage in house req'd, and so on).
If you speak of defense, i agree the goal IS to kill, nothing less.. And there is nothing wrong with that, either legally or morally.
Only if there is no other defense possible, e. g. stunning the aggressor with a taser. Killing should be the absolute last means of defense.
This is also true for speech, which in my country we consider it a right to have.
What about the kids sent home from school because of "no war" shirts?
But I agree, I consider this a right I have, and I think German law strips this right a little bit too much down in some cases.
and we are WAY OT here.. no one is listening but us at this point
They have fully automatic rifles in their homes, ya know.
Yes, but without ammo. And only the people who served in the Bundesheer. And IIRC all those rifles are registered including the marks the barrel leaves on the bullet, so if someone gets shot with one of those, the cops would know to whom this gun belonged immediately.
Ok, so how realistic is it that you personally are a target of this country? I will lay odds that you are a lot more of a target in your mind than anywhere in reality. This then leads to the question of legitimate need/use of such a tool.
And how realistic are the chances that you will find yourself in a situation in which you couldn't defend yourself with other weapons than firearms, e. g. a taser, a tear gas spray or gun?
Besides that, you are apparently trying to bate me into a political discussion about foriegn policy,
No, but this was a perfect reason why someone would wish to have such a weapon to defend himself.:) I could have used Northern Korea as the reason, but living here in Germany I fear the US doing bullshit much more than those "stoneage communist" assholes in NK.
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Somehow, $1 a song does't quite seem like a rip off does it?
It does, as it is even more expensive than the usual rip-off prices in the stores, even ignoring the fact that that downloaded stuff is far inferior to a "real" CD. Here in Germany, the price is up to nearly 20,- for a normal CD, and I consider about 8,- to 10,- being a fair price. After all, we're still waiting for the music industry to fulfill the promise of CDs becoming "soon" cheaper than the vinyl record was before!
2 minutes download time for a whole album? The usual pipe is much smaller than yours, man!
I agree with one thing: this will be no way for me until the prices drop under what's reasonable for a real CD. Which means incl. covers, media and case it should not cost more than 7,- for an album. That there has to be no DRM or any other stuff like this should be common sense.
:-( Next thing is they will be enabled to sue you just for not buying their products or other bullshit.
And, please, no "but there are only two good songs on an album, and here you can buy only the good songs, so calculate this out" nonsense!
And, for the corps tell the customers what to to and not the other way round: just look which way the legislation has been going for the last years in the western countries. Most laws strenghten the position of them and not ours.
At least the artist has no debt to his record company if i d/l it via Kazaa or else. There are artists who sold 250K albums and their record company still wanted some 10K $ from them!
This is absolute asshole behaviour, which I would not tolerate. I'd answer about none of their questions because it's not their fscking business! Either they'd accuse me of something with the needed evidence or they let me go where I want to, especially if I want to go OUT of their country!
I've never been to Israel and hope that the normal people there are more like the only two Israelis I met before, which were really nice people. I can only wonder why they elect such a war criminal, murderer and fascist like Scharon and the other assholes for being their leaders.
Just storing this extremly dangrous waste is exactly what I mean with "messing around". Here in Europe they even carry this stuff around to fresh it up again.
We should know a way to eliminate the danger of the waste [B]before[/B] using such stuff!
amount of waste produced is small
That may be, but you forgot the major problem of this radioactive stuff: it is not only dirty or toxic, it radiates the next thousands of years!
IMO it is complete madness to mess around with stuff where we don't know how to treat the waste and don't know when we'll ever know.
Kosi
There have been teachers in US courts of law because they told their students about Darwin.
What did they tell "about Darwin" to get taken to court?
They'd send you this baby over.
You mean doing some heavy P2P filesharing from a boat?
Morons Confused by Sun Equipment
Eays: They have enough money that they don't need to work anymore, so they have more time than Joe Average to d/l music.
You're one of those left wing bedwetting liberals who believes a person's life is worth more than anything
Oh my, shall I call you a right wing facist murderer now? No, I'm one of the reasonable persons who thinks that nobody should presume the right to kill other people.
You're probably against the death penalty, too
Sure, and for several reasons. First of all I think that no man has the right to kill another man except in direct self defense. Second, death penalty is useless, it does not decrease the number of crimes, in fact it *increases* the number of murders because the criminals don't want to have a witness who can send them to death row. Then look at the number of wrong death sentences already happened in your history and you have one more reason, which alone is reason enough to eliminate death sentence from the law, as it's pretty hard to rehabilitate. Death sentence's only real purpose is to satisfy people's thirst for revenge.
What about some sick fuck rapist who does little children?
You say it yourself, such people are really *sick*. People must be protected from such persons, not by killing them but by keeping them for the rest of their lifes where they belong: safely locked away in a psychiatry.
Is his life worth more than a material item? How about a murderer? Was Ted Bundy's life worth more than a material item?
Sure.
A pile of shit is worth more than the life of a hard criminal. You're a fucking idiot if you think that someone who would rob, rape, or murder is worth anything. Period.
No comment on this one, and now really EOD before I lower myself on your brainless-aggressive level.
no, they cracked the earlier version of the highly specialized softawre.
Yes, and I assume that the reason that there's no crack available for the later version is that it's useable for a small group of people only. If it was something for Joe Average, you sure would find a crack.
for a very specialized audience
:)
There you see the reason for the lack of the crack.
Yes, if I find him in my home in the process of stealing my TV, I do think it's ok to shoot him. What would you do? Ask him to "please leave"?
That would depend on the situation. If I was that scared and the risk was higher than it's here, I'd have a gas gun or a taser in my home to stop a criminal being a threat. Then there's plenty time to call the cops.
it's highly likely that you'll be shot or stabbed because they don't want you calling the cops
As I said before, it's rather unlikely for such a criminal to carry a gun. Other weapons May be, but so could you use other weapons.
Oh, and as an aside: My property is worth more than the life of a person who would break into my home and steal it.
You are an asshole. Material stuff can never be worth more than a person's life!
EOD.
The software has already been tested with air traffic controllers
When, in September 2001?
Yes, but can you get fired for sleeping with the virtual Executive Secretary?
Please tell me where f*cking the exec secretary is a reason to get fired, so I know where I'll never apply for a job. With whom I have sex has to be of no interest to my boss, except if his/her husband/wife is involved!
Perhaps you are not from the US... Millions upon millions of homeowners have private, monitored alarm systems
No, I'm from Germany. You'll find alarm systems mainly in really rich people's houses.
Burglars come in with a weapon looking to steal your stuff, and when confronted, are likely to attack you.
Here the usual burglar does not even carry a weapon.
Furthermore, I should be able to shoot his ass just for stealing my property.
That are wild west manners in best judge Lynch style which do not suit a civilized person. And this attitude is one reason why I think firearms and several other kinds of weapons should be banned with as little exceptions as possible (hunting, sports, police).
(Actually, I can, in my state)
This may be so, but it does not make it morally justified.
That property represents a portion of my life in which I worked hard to save the money to obtain it.
Man, wake up! It is just material stuff! If it was property which you really can't live without, ok, I could understand. But do you really think it's ok to shoot someone just because he steals your new 50" TV set?
So everyone that has an alarm system on their home is paranoid? Hmmm. That's a lot of paranoid people out there.
I know no one who has an alarm system in the private appartment ot house, only in business.
I'll never wake up to find an intruder standing at the foot of my bed.
That's why I call you paranoid! Such thing is highly unlikely.
If he breaks into my home, I get to shoot him. I have a concealed weapons permit and I've researched the laws in my state, as everyone who owns weapons should do.
It may be legal in your country, but shooting a person without the need of direct self defense is IMO murder. Death sentence may be the law in some states, but I call that murder, too.
If he's in my house, I'll shoot on first sight.
IMO shooting only is justified in self defense. That means, when you are being attacked, not only because this asshole broke into your house!
The lives of my wife and children are a hell of a lot more valuable than the life of some scumbag who just broke into my home.
The usual burglar does not come for murder, you know?
You're not supposed to, but what are you going to do, let Joe Burglar to murder you because it's illegal to break open the ammo tin?
Why are you so paraniod about people breaking into your house to murder you? The average burglar is not equipped with firearms. I know a rather large number of people and have never heard from anyone whose house has been broken into except a burglary in the apartment under mine. Besides, if you had to open that tin first, Joe B. had plenty of time to stop you from killing him.
why wouldn't you buy ammo from one of the 3,000 shooting ranges
Because I doubt that they will sell you ammo for take-away. But I don't know how they handle this in Switzerland.
Every male Swiss citizen
Even the ones who did not serve in the Bundesheer?
compulsory military service
The also can do civilan service.
Swiss are just more civilised that USians
There is less poverty and discrimination, in combination with a lack of the "wild west"-history of the USA. Which means violence is a much more common and accepted thing in the US society and poverty and discrimination are best suited to bring this violence to the surface.
I have electronic sensors on all doors and windows, and exterior motion detectors all tied into an AMX home automation controller & security system
Man, are you paranoid!
By the time he finishes stepping into my home, he'll be dead
That would be murder, as it is not in self defense if he does not threaten or attack you.
But I will if I have to.
You just told, you'd shoot on first sight, not in self defense only, what's your real point now?
Ever hear of Saddam? Don't give me the excuse that it cant happen today. It can happen to any populace that cant defend itself, or is not diligent.
:) OK, but this is one point you got, for hunting purposes there should be exceptions like here in Germany (transport of the gun only while disassembled, safe storage in house req'd, and so on).
... :)
I think that a populace who would defend themselves with guns against someone like Saddam would never let him get into power at first hand.
Ever hear of hunting animals?
With the typical six-shooter? No.
If you speak of defense, i agree the goal IS to kill, nothing less.. And there is nothing wrong with that, either legally or morally.
Only if there is no other defense possible, e. g. stunning the aggressor with a taser. Killing should be the absolute last means of defense.
This is also true for speech, which in my country we consider it a right to have.
What about the kids sent home from school because of "no war" shirts?
But I agree, I consider this a right I have, and I think German law strips this right a little bit too much down in some cases.
and we are WAY OT here.. no one is listening but us at this point
Yes, let's end this here
They have fully automatic rifles in their homes, ya know.
Yes, but without ammo. And only the people who served in the Bundesheer. And IIRC all those rifles are registered including the marks the barrel leaves on the bullet, so if someone gets shot with one of those, the cops would know to whom this gun belonged immediately.
Ok, so how realistic is it that you personally are a target of this country? I will lay odds that you are a lot more of a target in your mind than anywhere in reality. This then leads to the question of legitimate need/use of such a tool.
:) I could have used Northern Korea as the reason, but living here in Germany I fear the US doing bullshit much more than those "stoneage communist" assholes in NK.
And how realistic are the chances that you will find yourself in a situation in which you couldn't defend yourself with other weapons than firearms, e. g. a taser, a tear gas spray or gun?
Besides that, you are apparently trying to bate me into a political discussion about foriegn policy,
No, but this was a perfect reason why someone would wish to have such a weapon to defend himself.