Does that mean I won't get any commercials? that would be a better service.. if I still have the same amount of commercials, it still sucks. Even if they all want me to buy a new computer, install window$ on it, and run office2000. If it gets rid of all commercials its better service. if it's just different, tailored shit instead of generic shit it's not a service for me, it's a service for the company.
I don't agree with the policy itself, but to be fair.. the ISP in question, cox@home, did have a clause in their policy about servers not being allowed. @home in the Netherlands has this policy too...
try the Netherlands, especially xs4all.nl. They used to be called hacktic.. in the old days. And ofcourse there's no better way to get a dutchman stubborn than to tell him to do something.
It's not the people with characters named Joe, Bob or Pete who are the problem. These names may not sound all that medieval, but in medieval times there probably were people with strange names for the time.. what is a bigger problem is names like fuckyouall, filthybastard, and GenericL33Tkid. The MUD I'm on enforces a name-policy (clearly stated at login, as these things should be.. then you can still choose another mud). Basically our rule is: Would you ever consider giving this name to your kid, or would it make a decent nickname? (a name like Smasher would be allowed)
capable of ethics... yes. but in my view, most companies are not ethical. For most companies, the main goal is making money. money, money and more money. Always more money. In a person I do not see this as a good quality, which often leads to excesses. for a company this is even worse because the people involved usually cannot be made to be personally responsible. So what we basically have is an organization with low morals, if any, for which no person is responsible. This is why I distrust companies.. I would distrust a person with these qualities too.
I'll join you.. if I turn sideways they have almost 3 mm width to aim at...silly dieting people... loosing weight is easy.. gaining is a bloody lot harder.
If only we could go back in time and get the guy who invented the wheel. the wheel led to machinerie, which led to the printing press, which led in turn to ways of recording sound (grammophone), which led to data recording, which led DIRECTLY to mp3s. He should be sued for starting all this.
The Linux desktop? hmm.. last I checked there were several desktops available. It's not exactly my point of interest, but there's also KDE (and probably more, but KDE and Gnome are the two largest I think). Let's face it: Windows is not that intuitive either, doubleclicking just isn't a very natural operation. There is no such thing as the perfect UI. Different people want different UIs. I happen to like the strength and flexibility of a commandline, but commandlines have the disadvantage of having a higher treshold than a GUI, if only because a GUI will show buttons/menus/whatever and thus show, on first sight, at least some of the possibilities of the app. This makes a GUI easy to use for new users. What it all comes down to is that people often don't want to be put in a straightjacket of the manufacturer of the software. Not even when they call it a comfy sweater.
Nope. I don't get it. I am legally allowed to build my own recordplayer. I can build me own green/red 3d glasses for those neat 3d pictures. And I am also allowed to read a book through whatever glasses I happen to wear or not wear. But I can't build my own dvd player, even though I already payed for the software (movie). hell.. I can even build my own movieprojector or VCR, which does much the same thing. apparently the medium decides the copyright, which is strange to say the least...
When I look around, I already see a backlash. Unfortunately this backlash is not against companies, governments or organization, but rather seems to be directed against the US. The place where companies can do what they want, and where individuals don't count. The place where I can walk the streets with an assault rifle, yelling: "Hitler was a l33t d00d!!", but cant even get a decent beer until I'm 21. Where I can practically get arrested for walking around with a porn pic on my t-shirt for fear of hurting the children. The backlash is already here, and I fear there is not much that can stop it.
And consumer magazines are criminal too, ofcourse.. someone may actually find out a certain product does not do what it's supposed to do, and decide not to buy it! Wow! more theft!
If I buy a car, I am allowed to look under the hood. If I buy food, I can look what it's made of. If I buy a computer, I can take it apart. But in the US I have no rights whatsoever over a prgram that I bought. I can't look under the hood, see what's in it or anything. Nobody is forcing companies to do anything, but some companies are forcing consumers to stand up for their rights. Fine, you have the right to own a gun.. but before long that could be the ONLY right you have left as an individual. All other rights are only for companies.
Here's an idea (that is not going to happen, I'm afraid)
Someone or a group of someones are responsible for decisions by MS. I have a feeling that if the persons responsible for the illegal decisions were jailed, companies will think twice about breaking anti-trust or other laws. MS definately did more damage than most 'normal' thieves, and they get jailed. So why not jail the board of directors?
>... to transmit copyrighted works all over the world...
Ok.. postal services are next on the list to be banned.. They're obviously meant to transport copyrighted materials like books and CDs. This happens a lot, especially for people's birthdays. After that Time Warner will outlaw santa's bag.
Holland, the country. Not Holland, Michigan.. Actually called The Netherlands. Holland is a mere 2 provinces. Not every place in the world is in the US, although there's lots of copied placenames..
The making of backups (at least in europe) is protected. Directly from the european directive of software:
the making of a backup copy by a person having a right to use a computer program may not be prevented by contract insofar as it is necessary for that use. (article 5, sub 2)
I think it's possible in Europe.. legally.. but I'm not sure. I'm not very fluent in english legalese, but I found the European Software directive, and article 6 on decompilation seems to indicate this possibility. If anyone would care to clarify, please do.. the directive can be found at http://www.army.cz/vtciacr/secupage/orig/sw_prot.h tm
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Does that mean I won't get any commercials? that would be a better service.. if I still have the same amount of commercials, it still sucks. Even if they all want me to buy a new computer, install window$ on it, and run office2000. If it gets rid of all commercials its better service. if it's just different, tailored shit instead of generic shit it's not a service for me, it's a service for the company.
//rdj
it was Ada Lovelace
//rdj
I don't agree with the policy itself, but to be fair.. the ISP in question, cox@home, did have a clause in their policy about servers not being allowed. @home in the Netherlands has this policy too...
//rdj
try the Netherlands, especially xs4all.nl. They used to be called hacktic.. in the old days. And ofcourse there's no better way to get a dutchman stubborn than to tell him to do something.
//rdj
pfft.. they probably were cleverer than calling people weenies.. but MS forced them to change it into somethiung non-offensive...
//rdj
hmm.. a mirror can't be far off then.. never is when a celebrity has a straw up his/her nose. I'm sure it's just powdered sugar.. Really, I am.
//rdj
It's not the people with characters named Joe, Bob or Pete who are the problem. These names may not sound all that medieval, but in medieval times there probably were people with strange names for the time.. what is a bigger problem is names like
fuckyouall, filthybastard, and GenericL33Tkid. The MUD I'm on enforces a name-policy (clearly stated at login, as these things should be.. then you can still choose another mud). Basically our rule is: Would you ever consider giving this name to your kid, or would it make a decent nickname? (a name like Smasher would be allowed)
//rdj
//rdj
capable of ethics... yes. but in my view, most companies are not ethical. For most companies, the main goal is making money. money, money and more money. Always more money. In a person I do not see this as a good quality, which often leads to excesses. for a company this is even worse because the people involved usually cannot be made to be personally responsible. So what we basically have is an organization with low morals, if any, for which no person is responsible. This is why I distrust companies.. I would distrust a person with these qualities too.
//rdj
I'll join you.. if I turn sideways they have almost 3 mm width to aim at...silly dieting people... loosing weight is easy.. gaining is a bloody lot harder.
//rdj
What do I do if I want extra mustard? those plasters probably taste bland anyway...
//rdj
If only we could go back in time and get the guy who invented the wheel. the wheel led to machinerie, which led to the printing press, which led in turn to ways of recording sound (grammophone), which led to data recording, which led DIRECTLY to mp3s. He should be sued for starting all this.
//rdj
The Linux desktop? hmm.. last I checked there were several desktops available. It's not exactly my point of interest, but there's also KDE (and probably more, but KDE and Gnome are the two largest I think). Let's face it: Windows is not that intuitive either, doubleclicking just isn't a very natural operation. There is no such thing as the perfect UI. Different people want different UIs. I happen to like the strength and flexibility of a commandline, but commandlines have the disadvantage of having a higher treshold than a GUI, if only because a GUI will show buttons/menus/whatever and thus show, on first sight, at least some of the possibilities of the app. This makes a GUI easy to use for new users. What it all comes down to is that people often don't want to be put in a straightjacket of the manufacturer of the software. Not even when they call it a comfy sweater.
//rdj
Nope. I don't get it. I am legally allowed to build my own recordplayer. I can build me own green/red 3d glasses for those neat 3d pictures. And I am also allowed to read a book through whatever glasses I happen to wear or not wear. But I can't build my own dvd player, even though I already payed for the software (movie). hell.. I can even build my own movieprojector or VCR, which does much the same thing. apparently the medium decides the copyright, which is strange to say the least...
//rdj
"That's perfectly normal, sir. That engine is supposed to squeak"
nuff said....
//rdj
When I look around, I already see a backlash. Unfortunately this backlash is not against companies, governments or organization, but rather seems to be directed against the US. The place where companies can do what they want, and where individuals don't count. The place where I can walk the streets with an assault rifle, yelling: "Hitler was a l33t d00d!!", but cant even get a decent beer until I'm 21. Where I can practically get arrested for walking around with a porn pic on my t-shirt for fear of hurting the children. The backlash is already here, and I fear there is not much that can stop it.
//rdj
And consumer magazines are criminal too, ofcourse.. someone may actually find out a certain product does not do what it's supposed to do, and decide not to buy it! Wow! more theft!
//rdj
I disagree here.. someone buys the program and decrypts the list. someone buys a car and looks under the hood. where does the stealing come in?
If I buy a car, I am allowed to look under the hood. If I buy food, I can look what it's made of. If I buy a computer, I can take it apart. But in the US I have no rights whatsoever over a prgram that I bought. I can't look under the hood, see what's in it or anything. Nobody is forcing companies to do anything, but some companies are forcing consumers to stand up for their rights. Fine, you have the right to own a gun.. but before long that could be the ONLY right you have left as an individual. All other rights are only for companies.
//rdj
Most people are not that stupid. The ones that are.. well.. they ARE funny
//rdj
Here's an idea (that is not going to happen, I'm afraid)
Someone or a group of someones are responsible for decisions by MS. I have a feeling that if the persons responsible for the illegal decisions were jailed, companies will think twice about breaking anti-trust or other laws. MS definately did more damage than most 'normal' thieves, and they get jailed. So why not jail the board of directors?
//rdj
> ... to transmit copyrighted works all over the world ...
Ok.. postal services are next on the list to be banned.. They're obviously meant to transport copyrighted materials like books and CDs. This happens a lot, especially for people's birthdays. After that Time Warner will outlaw santa's bag.
//rdj
Holland, the country. Not Holland, Michigan.. Actually called The Netherlands. Holland is a mere 2 provinces. Not every place in the world is in the US, although there's lots of copied placenames..
//rdj
just a quick note: check out sunday's userfriendly
//rdj
The making of backups (at least in europe) is protected. Directly from the european directive of software:
the making of a backup copy by a person having a right to use a computer program may not be prevented by contract insofar as it is necessary for that use. (article 5, sub 2)
//rdj
I think it's possible in Europe.. legally.. but I'm not sure. I'm not very fluent in english legalese, but I found the European Software directive, and article 6 on decompilation seems to indicate this possibility.h tm
If anyone would care to clarify, please do.. the directive can be found at http://www.army.cz/vtciacr/secupage/orig/sw_prot.
//rdj