Its just a shame they have a Music section http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=141 - its just filled with DRM, RIAA and various iPod crap. I guess its 'music'....
I'd like to see more stuff like the Coward said above! Yeah, and not just Mac apps like damn GarageBand! (tho what i've used of it does seem good)
WOOHOO! Something useful in my music on/. at last! Never thought I'd see it!
Thanks slashflood! I really like PropellerHeads software (Reason) but I still like Fruity Loopz too:D
Dug
To: SteveB@microsoft.com, SteveB@ceo.microsoft.com Date: September 3rd, 2005 Subject: Whats your opinion on this, eh, Sexy Steve-Baby-Monkey?
Hi Stevey-Baby!
Just heard your delightful and not-at-all-rude comments about Google! Just thought I'd let you know my feelings (because of course, all of Microsoft are always interested in their users... aren't you?)
I just saw the attached video, and I thought I'd let you know;
'You're going to f***ing having a heart attack, You have done it before, and you will do it again. You're going to have a f***ing heart attack.'
Best wishes, and hoping you are fit and healthy Mr. Ballmer!
PS.. Oh, and good luck with your company! I hear it's not doing so well against some company named after a fruit, and some silly search engine? Now thats a shame... Maybe you should rename yourself to 'MonkeyAngryFatBastard' - you do look like a overweight monkey with a anger-management and an obesity problem.
PPS... If you don't get sarcasm, you sicken me. Why can't you just be happy for a company that's doing so much better - and, doing things so much better for their users, than you are?
[my name removed:D]
Attached File: MonkeyDance.Mpeg [thx to tarmo.fi!] (really, its worth watching, just to see how much Steve Ballmer is out of breath at the end!)
Ahh, thanks for the tips MixPix, very helpful! Double clicking on tabs is really useful! Thanks!
Why not turn off active X and scripts if you want IE to be more secure??
Um, because I want my webbrowser secure, not just 'more' secure;)
Plus, I've never actually encountered a website (that I use often enough) to warrent NOT using Firefox. Seriously!
I can't think of any - ooh, except the UK Gov JobCentre site, and I found a way around it. At the very least I *ALWAYS* complain to the WebMaster that they don't know correct standards. Especially for a Gov site, its damn disgusting!
I'm a webmaster myself, I know my codes' not always perfectly W3C standard, but at least the site is functional in any browser [and I work at a school, so don't go whinging that I'm a complainer, I know what its like, and I practice what I preach!];)
Firefox just suits me perfectly, especially being able to make my own and use any scripts and extensions. I can't fault it.
C'mon, why use IE? Apart from for WindowsUpdate of course;)
Not even heard of Maxthon (by the makers of MyIE2 apparently) - I've just tried it for a good hour or so and its actually quite slick.
Supports multiple proxies, autorefresh (these are available as addons to firefox), and has tabs (inc undo), switchable disable of activex, download and ad managers.
Took me a while to find the Gecko engine, but there's details at their forums. Unfortuately its a bloody ActiveX plugin with the Gecko engine in, and its huge!
I'm impressed - Its certainly better than IE - and suitable as a replacement for it, and very quick. Surprisingly, it actually runs WindowsUpdate faster than IE6 does on my PC [after Disabling Windows Advantage, naturally]:)
There's some faults that let it down but working with IE, its probably the best they could do:) - and its good! [although theres no close button the right, which confused me somewhat:)]
Having said that and having used it, I'm still going to stick with Firefox!
Though I am going to keep it installed along with OffByOne - [thanks to Artifakt who i saw mentioned it yesterday] not many features (no iframes, even!) but small enough to run on a floppy! Comes in very useful occassionally!
Thanks for your response dynamo52, just checked myself and upgraded - 2.3.0.4 is out now:)
Not seeming to have any trouble after reinstalling and adding autospeed. Interestingly, though even the new version was better, I still found it slow and now having put on autospeed (thanks Nigelo!), it's certaintly a huge amount better!
I'm using Azureus atm, it does support E-Donkey links, absolutely.
The problem I've found with it, is not that it rapes my CPU or RAM, but my PC still grinds to a halt! Very few TCP connections, and using Sun Java...
Anyone have any ideas? I've just stuck with it and now resort to leave it running overnight, but I'm sure I could run it normally, if i knew what it was that was holding up my system so bad...
[Gets out the big red book of PerfMon and sits down to read for a while]
So what. I paid a lot of money to get my CS degree.:-P
I'm glad you're one of the lucky few who can afford it. Some people don't get free education or get given money by their mommy and daddy.
Personally, I think this thread is stupid.
I agree, and I think I started it!
And why does paying for all the training to get it mean something bad?
NO NO NO NO NO! Read what I say, I'm not saying its BAD, I'm just saying don't reject uncertified people just because they can't afford or want to do the courses!
You end up missing out on good people, like me.
Yeah? You wait till you end up working with someone uncertificated - will you treat them like a lesser person? Then YOU'LL be missing out.
Privileged bastard.
Dug
You've proved exactly my point! Just because someone has an CNE, it literally means they've passed the cert.
Without even having a clue about NDS, i know I could be just as informed about it than another person with full qualifications - Whats to say any other way? That I can't afford to pay Novell their $369?
So, maybe I'm a manager and my higher-ups have asked me to be qualified? Maybe I didn't want to, but for the job, I've not had a choiec. So, I've taken the course, got my paper, and forgotten everything about NDS. Yes, IT DOES HAPPEN - because my manager was in this exact suituation.
The fact that she was a bitch and didn't have a clue about computers didn't help. Btw, I'm no manager, just a loly poor programmer hoping to get his break soon - but I can't afford $369! Does that make me any less experienced than someone who can?
I don't discrimate against Certificates, I simply feel they're almost worthless, proof of knowledge for a job should be shown by good interview technique and testing.
Certification is good, but it certaintly doesn't mean one candiate is better than one without certification. I certaintly would refuse to work for any manager who I knew thought otherwise.
You've proved exactly my point! Just because someone has an CNE, it literally means they've passed the cert.
Without even having a clue about NDS, i could tell you they're
I don't discrimate against Certificates, I simply feel they're almost worthless, proof of knowledge for a job should be shown by good interview technique and testing.
Certification is good, but it certaintly doesn't mean one candiate is better than one without certification. I certaintly would refuse to work for any manager who I knew thought otherwise.
Dug
I'm not saying someone with a cert is less experienced, just that it certaintly doesn't make them any better or more experienced than someone with a certificate - apart from they can afford to get one.
I truely understand your point about hitting the documents/google tho - its far more important to know how to find out things than to only know what you've been taught.
Thanks for your input Guice, I find this really interesting topic. Any manager worth their job should realise that certification isn't everything.
A Cert, if nothing else, tells you the person WANTS to be in IT.
No, it means they have the money to afford to be in IT. I know plenty of over-certified people who don't have the first clue about what they're certified in.
You want me to work for your company but I'm not certified? Then I'm more than happy to prove that I can do the job - in fact, I'd prefer it.
Its shows that the management considers my welfare important. Mind you, its never happened anywhere I've worked yet.
Touche! I remember having that error too. I gave up and used Lilo too. I've not really had a problem with grub, apart from when I've tried to set it up from scratch.
Don't even get me started on the 'grub-install' command... I thought it was always meant to be installed within Grub, but there's just so much different documentation out there. I'm sure it doesn't matter how you do it but my fact remains, I've never got Grub to work from scratch!
I know I seemed to have I've started off a bit of an arguement about this article, but its great to see some of us finally talking about the things that matter to beginners in Linux.
Personally, I love the idea of being able to do extra stuff in Grub, its a real expert bootloader that works, not just for Linux, but setting it up can be difficult, but LILO (ok, LILO can be just as hard), works great, is easy to setup, and the only really difficult bit is when you upgrade, and that's not too much to remember:)
Thanks again for the responses on/. on this article, I've really enjoyed posting so much on here today!! You've all really shown me that Slashdot can be about good discussion, and things that matter, and not just the usual crap we see on here.
C'mon, its still more related to computers that most of the recent shit on/.
Some of the info on there was really useful to me, btw. Maybe if it helps a few people get into using Linux, etc, then it can only be a good thing, no?
Dug
Grub has just been a pain for dualbooting in my experience. Lilo, no trouble, though you're right, they're very few pros.
Dug
Why couldn't they post this BEFORE the weekend?
on
The Boot Loader Showdown
·
· Score: 3, Interesting
*Bangs head on table*
Now I wish I had this page when I tried to install Gentoo over the weekend.
Call me dumb but I couldn't get it to dual boot with Grub. Worked great with Lilo tho:)
Its just a shame you have to rewrite Lilo stage 1 when you change stuff. Though I've never really got the hang of the Grub command line (why -1 for partitions, eh?!) so I'll stick with Lilo - its easy enough with a boot or livecd to fix anyhow.
Grub's quicker though isn't it?
Dug
I just wanna say how much i agree with your sentiment!
If I had mod points, you'd get them all. If everyone thought this way, maybe things would be better.
Shame that'll never happen, think I'll get back to my bong;) - I say you might as well enjoy wasting your life, if you havent got much to live for.
D
Slashdot Mirror
Defination of slogan n.
From http://investor.google.com/conduct.html:
DugUK
LOL! ROTFL!!
;)
I got this even if no-one else did!
Bloody genius
DugUK
That's actually a really good idea.
:D
Its just a shame they have a Music section http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=141 - its just filled with DRM, RIAA and various iPod crap. I guess its 'music'....
I'd like to see more stuff like the Coward said above! Yeah, and not just Mac apps like damn GarageBand! (tho what i've used of it does seem good)
Great idea
DugUK
WOOHOO! Something useful in my music on /. at last! Never thought I'd see it!
Thanks slashflood! I really like PropellerHeads software (Reason) but I still like Fruity Loopz too :D
Dug
To: SteveB@microsoft.com, SteveB@ceo.microsoft.com
:D]
Date: September 3rd, 2005
Subject: Whats your opinion on this, eh, Sexy Steve-Baby-Monkey?
Hi Stevey-Baby!
Just heard your delightful and not-at-all-rude comments about Google! Just thought I'd let you know my feelings (because of course, all of Microsoft are always interested in their users... aren't you?)
I just saw the attached video, and I thought I'd let you know;
'You're going to f***ing having a heart attack, You have done it before, and you will do it again. You're going to have a f***ing heart attack.'
Best wishes, and hoping you are fit and healthy Mr. Ballmer!
PS.. Oh, and good luck with your company! I hear it's not doing so well against some company named after a fruit, and some silly search engine? Now thats a shame... Maybe you should rename yourself to 'MonkeyAngryFatBastard' - you do look like a overweight monkey with a anger-management and an obesity problem.
PPS... If you don't get sarcasm, you sicken me. Why can't you just be happy for a company that's doing so much better - and, doing things so much better for their users, than you are?
[my name removed
Attached File: MonkeyDance.Mpeg [thx to tarmo.fi!] (really, its worth watching, just to see how much Steve Ballmer is out of breath at the end!)
I really can't stand that guy.
Dug
Um, because I want my webbrowser secure, not just 'more' secure
Plus, I've never actually encountered a website (that I use often enough) to warrent NOT using Firefox. Seriously!
I can't think of any - ooh, except the UK Gov JobCentre site, and I found a way around it. At the very least I *ALWAYS* complain to the WebMaster that they don't know correct standards. Especially for a Gov site, its damn disgusting!
I'm a webmaster myself, I know my codes' not always perfectly W3C standard, but at least the site is functional in any browser [and I work at a school, so don't go whinging that I'm a complainer, I know what its like, and I practice what I preach!]
Firefox just suits me perfectly, especially being able to make my own and use any scripts and extensions. I can't fault it.
C'mon, why use IE? Apart from for WindowsUpdate of course
Dug
Not even heard of Maxthon (by the makers of MyIE2 apparently) - I've just tried it for a good hour or so and its actually quite slick.
:)
:) - and its good! [although theres no close button the right, which confused me somewhat :)]
Supports multiple proxies, autorefresh (these are available as addons to firefox), and has tabs (inc undo), switchable disable of activex, download and ad managers.
Took me a while to find the Gecko engine, but there's details at their forums. Unfortuately its a bloody ActiveX plugin with the Gecko engine in, and its huge!
I'm impressed - Its certainly better than IE - and suitable as a replacement for it, and very quick. Surprisingly, it actually runs WindowsUpdate faster than IE6 does on my PC [after Disabling Windows Advantage, naturally]
There's some faults that let it down but working with IE, its probably the best they could do
Having said that and having used it, I'm still going to stick with Firefox!
Though I am going to keep it installed along with OffByOne - [thanks to Artifakt who i saw mentioned it yesterday] not many features (no iframes, even!) but small enough to run on a floppy! Comes in very useful occassionally!
Duguk
Thanks for your response dynamo52, just checked myself and upgraded - 2.3.0.4 is out now :)
Not seeming to have any trouble after reinstalling and adding autospeed. Interestingly, though even the new version was better, I still found it slow and now having put on autospeed (thanks Nigelo!), it's certaintly a huge amount better!
Thanks again Nigelo & Dynamo52!
Duguk
That's one way to put it!
I'm using Azureus atm, it does support E-Donkey links, absolutely.
The problem I've found with it, is not that it rapes my CPU or RAM, but my PC still grinds to a halt! Very few TCP connections, and using Sun Java...
Anyone have any ideas? I've just stuck with it and now resort to leave it running overnight, but I'm sure I could run it normally, if i knew what it was that was holding up my system so bad...
[Gets out the big red book of PerfMon and sits down to read for a while]
DugUK
You've proved exactly my point! Just because someone has an CNE, it literally means they've passed the cert.
Without even having a clue about NDS, i know I could be just as informed about it than another person with full qualifications - Whats to say any other way? That I can't afford to pay Novell their $369?
So, maybe I'm a manager and my higher-ups have asked me to be qualified? Maybe I didn't want to, but for the job, I've not had a choiec. So, I've taken the course, got my paper, and forgotten everything about NDS. Yes, IT DOES HAPPEN - because my manager was in this exact suituation.
The fact that she was a bitch and didn't have a clue about computers didn't help. Btw, I'm no manager, just a loly poor programmer hoping to get his break soon - but I can't afford $369! Does that make me any less experienced than someone who can?
I don't discrimate against Certificates, I simply feel they're almost worthless, proof of knowledge for a job should be shown by good interview technique and testing.
Certification is good, but it certaintly doesn't mean one candiate is better than one without certification. I certaintly would refuse to work for any manager who I knew thought otherwise.
Dug
You've proved exactly my point! Just because someone has an CNE, it literally means they've passed the cert. Without even having a clue about NDS, i could tell you they're I don't discrimate against Certificates, I simply feel they're almost worthless, proof of knowledge for a job should be shown by good interview technique and testing. Certification is good, but it certaintly doesn't mean one candiate is better than one without certification. I certaintly would refuse to work for any manager who I knew thought otherwise. Dug
I'm not saying someone with a cert is less experienced, just that it certaintly doesn't make them any better or more experienced than someone with a certificate - apart from they can afford to get one.
I truely understand your point about hitting the documents/google tho - its far more important to know how to find out things than to only know what you've been taught.
Thanks for your input Guice, I find this really interesting topic. Any manager worth their job should realise that certification isn't everything.
Dug
No, it means they have the money to afford to be in IT. I know plenty of over-certified people who don't have the first clue about what they're certified in.
You want me to work for your company but I'm not certified? Then I'm more than happy to prove that I can do the job - in fact, I'd prefer it.
Its shows that the management considers my welfare important. Mind you, its never happened anywhere I've worked yet.
Dug
Touche! I remember having that error too. I gave up and used Lilo too. I've not really had a problem with grub, apart from when I've tried to set it up from scratch.
:)
/. on this article, I've really enjoyed posting so much on here today!! You've all really shown me that Slashdot can be about good discussion, and things that matter, and not just the usual crap we see on here.
Don't even get me started on the 'grub-install' command... I thought it was always meant to be installed within Grub, but there's just so much different documentation out there. I'm sure it doesn't matter how you do it but my fact remains, I've never got Grub to work from scratch!
I know I seemed to have I've started off a bit of an arguement about this article, but its great to see some of us finally talking about the things that matter to beginners in Linux.
Personally, I love the idea of being able to do extra stuff in Grub, its a real expert bootloader that works, not just for Linux, but setting it up can be difficult, but LILO (ok, LILO can be just as hard), works great, is easy to setup, and the only really difficult bit is when you upgrade, and that's not too much to remember
Thanks again for the responses on
Thanks again, to everyone.
Monkeyboi
Aaaaaaaaah! Thanks Kormoc!
A good explaination does wonders for proving and learning the differences between anything like this.
Dug
You haven't looked at comparing the menu.lst to the lilo.conf then?
:)
Grub dual-booting is MORE difficult, I dare you to prove me wrong
Dug
If you read that paragraph again:
Check underneath and make sure you have a lilo.conf and stuff
Dug
I think its fixmbr on the Windows Repair Console... Or just reinstall windows :D
Did you try
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=removing+grub
Because there's just loads there...
Dug
C'mon, its still more related to computers that most of the recent shit on /.
Some of the info on there was really useful to me, btw. Maybe if it helps a few people get into using Linux, etc, then it can only be a good thing, no?
Dug
What about because its far easier to use?
/etc/lilo.conf
nano
lilo
reboot
Grub has just been a pain for dualbooting in my experience. Lilo, no trouble, though you're right, they're very few pros.
Dug
*Bangs head on table* Now I wish I had this page when I tried to install Gentoo over the weekend. Call me dumb but I couldn't get it to dual boot with Grub. Worked great with Lilo tho :)
Its just a shame you have to rewrite Lilo stage 1 when you change stuff. Though I've never really got the hang of the Grub command line (why -1 for partitions, eh?!) so I'll stick with Lilo - its easy enough with a boot or livecd to fix anyhow.
Grub's quicker though isn't it?
Dug
I just wanna say how much i agree with your sentiment! If I had mod points, you'd get them all. If everyone thought this way, maybe things would be better. Shame that'll never happen, think I'll get back to my bong ;) - I say you might as well enjoy wasting your life, if you havent got much to live for.
D
C'mon, what do you expect? He confesses he's a manager!
;)
Dug