hmm, not the most inspired thing I've ever heard but still interesting. quite parallel to the "network mesh" idea that hangs aroung/. for quite some time, a community of individuals with no leaders, no master servers, no big mama.
when we are smart enough to know what we want, we are smart enough to not need leaders to show us what that is.
Money is to buy food, houses and hardware, not art neither software. Respect artists and programmers, they don't need your money, just your respect. Give them a way to live and let them create. Don't put them into the system of earning money, this is not our job, that's a job for CEOs and economists.
This age is so vastly dominated by rich people that need to make more money that already have that they act as BEASTS to artists and programmers. A program or a peace of art doesn't need to be paid by people that are already short in money, it needs to be respected, let the artists and programmers live by a small percentage of rich people money and let people have the art and software for free.
You can keep you 34 houses, you won't be poorer. We can accept an offer of "take a house and a car and money to buy things" and don't ask if I charge the people, and I can accept an offer of "take all this art and software for free and tell me what you can do, what you can create for all these people".
This system is dominated by rich people, it's a tree structured network, we need a _mesh_.
On some ages and places artists were respected for what they did, giving away art for free. that respect was earning them living. everyone knew in ancient Athens that actors were not paid but respected. everyone was alowed to go to the theater for free (not a zip) because rich people were responsible of artists and poor people because they _respected_ art and the need of poor people for it.
In other countries there were the "bards", that would play music for free to anyone and they were respected, paid and fed by people who had wealth.
So, this immorality of our age that only rich people can buy art should make us outrageous, not making us people feeling shame and guilt of not paying them!
They should feel ashamed of putting artists, good artists into this system for the sake of making themeselves more money.
People, wake up, we don't need to pay more the ones that are already rich.
Not only on cathedral organs and nazi experiments, but on simple every day life subwoofers this is on work as well. Most good(==expensive) subwoofers use a wide range of low frequencies that can only be "heard" by the body.
It's not very difficult to imagine how it works. Remember how some low beat sounds in night clubs makes the body tremble.
I Greece, it is not so clear and simple. Some smart students are indeed nerds, but most of smarter students go to gym, have girl/boyfriends etc. etc.
In fact, most weak students are not at all popular, and very smart students tend to be more popular than the very weak.
There will always be some weak students that are popular, and smarter that are unpopular but the opposite is so common as well so you can't make such generalization there.
Well I mean, common, that can't be so generalized in USA as well, I can't believe all the smart are unpopular and all dumb and "stylish" popular.
The failure rate of spam filters is still 1 to 5%. This is a fairly large ammount of email if you count how many of these are transfered each day. I don't want any of my personal emails being blocked as spam because that friend of mine used a phrase like "I got that job which pays me really good".
What we need is
- better laws concerning internet privacy - shutting down of spamming machines - getting these spammers understand somehow how much we appreciate their spam and at what extent we read it. That will make them less interested in spam.
These movements have no intention to make profit on the same spot, it's mostly about commerciallity of the company. "Oh look, this is a net cafe of that guy that has one on Everest".
look smart ass, the post was referring to the other smart asses friends of yours that insist of referring to linux as a i386 OS. it was a mistake to use the phrase "linux hardware" but your ignorant smart ass post had no place.
People are talking of stability superiority of Solaris over Linux on this matter, when they don't take into account these two simple facts:
a) This is supposed to render stuff, not to be a 24/7 system. I suppose it's booted today, used for a week or 4 days and then shut down again, until they have stuff to render.
b) People forget that Solaris runs on Sun hardware, not Linux hardware. Don't blame Linux for IBM and Intel's faults _please_.
That doesn't count on any court ever existed on earth. If I get your house because you were on vacation for 9 years doesn't make me an owner.
The only thing that exists is if something never was in the possession of anyone can easily be obtained by the first founder.
But this is a 1st level domain which is not "first found", it gets more complicated, it's not just "oh see, I got this domain and no one owns so it's mine". 2nd level domains org.uk, ac.uk exist which make the case not that simple.
Oh well, there's also the case of violent wars, when a hostile imperialistic nation gets other peoples' land and makes it its own, but that's not the case here either.
Let the porn mag pass if that's what they want. If they don't wanna learn, they won't learn whatever you do. Enforcing people on certain behaviours only creates stress and fear. So you get apart from inability and unwillingless to learn, fear, stress and hate on top
Learning is a productive procedure, in a sense, it produces thoughts and memories in your mind. On the other hand, people _must_ undestand:
If I'm not going to be concentrated because of prv messaging, I won't be due to that hot female student next to me too.
So, all this crap about productivity is utterly nonsense. Nice to hear some real reasons as "we got untraceable threats through AOL by allowing that prv msg systems", but productivity control? Poliiiise. If you don't wanna learn, a firewall won't help you.
Nice to hear there is some real reason for banning these ports at your place. That shows responsibility and not at all exceedance of your job's limitations.
We read all kinds of crap "as an IT department we believe these and these ports are bad..", get over it, you are not preachers, neither social advisors.
Nice to hear some real cases of enforcement coming out.
Excuse me, but how can _you_ decide what is productive to me? And when I say "you" it's not at all personal, it's about all these people that _exceed their job's limitations_.
You are a system administrator, you are here to block kazaa, movie downloading, perhaps illegal porn etc, but please, you are not a preacher neither a social advisor or a teacher.
I've seen system administrators on european universities that have absolutely no idea how to set up a firewall.
An example is when they block anything except port 80. Then, they open anything, so anyone can use kazaa, do some cracking and generally abuse the academic bandwidth.
Then, they block it back again! so, they prove, port 80 is the only thing they know, so thats the only thing they can allow if they start blocking.
If you've lived on such a great administration environment - surprise surprise, it's so strange they use windows for name serving as well - that's really nothing.
Trust me, blocking prv messaging is nth compared to a blocked 22.
This is so because some quicktime videos have a menu driver start that cannot be handled by mplayer yet even if on windows these videos don't seem to have a menu i.e. they just start playing because there is no other choise than title 1
You have to play that, specifying the title number e.g. mplayer lala.mov -id 1
It will probably be some closed source technology that obviously is not working right from the first attempt. Strange noises can be heard from the TV, the Radio, the guys next door, or even the dog.
A similar but imo more sensible approach would be a simple computer box and a audio card with dynamic microphones that would be based on some nice open software which can be upgraded and be compatible with our needs.
Computers could do these things from the 80s. All we need is the software to do it.
I like the "there is no time" thing, however, I'm used to services and the the joy they have to provide stable channels. On efnet may be more "anarchistic" in a nice way but then again, small channels are difficult to be kept alive, many people like a small channel of 5-50 people and EFnet can't provide that to them with confidence.
It's the copyright owners responsibility, not IRC networks' not even law enforcers.
It's like you create something and you don't want to share it so you get a gun and start threatening people if they touch it, you're gonna shoot.
It's the same all along. If the creators of movies and music, had a way to make something like the GPL on software it would be a good thing.
But the world is constructed in a way right now that money is needed, so people when they need to make a project like a movie or a music album that includes studios, manufacturing and marketing they don't want other people to get that stuff for free because they gave that money so they need their money back.
They'll say to you "yeah, it's a nice thing to have the script of the movie or its ideas under GPL but not the whole pack", and it's indeed normal to think that way. The spend that money, so the problem in this world is not the people that don't want you to copy their stuff, it's the whole economical system we are based on.
I so wait for they when robotics will be so advanced, everything that needs money will be handled by that.
Most channels are not owned by DALnet operators. That fact exists on EFnet and other networks that refuse to accept the fact that services are usefull so their operators become very, very, "protective" of their channels.
Most DALnet channels that switched networks did it to make their own networks so they can be popular from day 0 having already 200-1000 members.
Topics that prove that included stuff like "DALnet has proven once more how unstable it is, use/server lalala.org and join #wareX" etc. etc.
Maybe it's the one with the most servers. The most crowded right now according to googleX is Quakenet (yeah, I know, most people don't even knew it existed, perhaps because it's mostly kids there and no file sharing channels at all)
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hmm, not the most inspired thing I've ever heard but still interesting. quite parallel to the "network mesh" idea that hangs aroung /. for quite some time, a community of individuals with no leaders, no master servers, no big mama.
when we are smart enough to know what we want, we are smart enough to not need leaders to show us what that is.
Money is to buy food, houses and hardware, not art neither software. Respect artists and programmers, they don't need your money, just your respect. Give them a way to live and let them create. Don't put them into the system of earning money, this is not our job, that's a job for CEOs and economists.
This age is so vastly dominated by rich people that need to make more money that already have that they act as BEASTS to artists and programmers. A program or a peace of art doesn't need to be paid by people that are already short in money, it needs to be respected, let the artists and programmers live by a small percentage
of rich people money and let people have the art and software for free.
You can keep you 34 houses, you won't be poorer. We can accept an offer of "take a house and a car and money to buy things" and don't ask if I charge the people, and I can accept an offer of "take all this art and software for free and tell me what you can do, what you can create for all these people".
This system is dominated by rich people, it's a tree structured network, we need a _mesh_.
On some ages and places artists were respected for what they did, giving away art for free. that respect was earning them living. everyone knew in ancient Athens that actors were not paid but respected. everyone was alowed to go to the theater for free (not a zip) because rich people were responsible of artists and poor people because they _respected_ art and the need of poor people for it.
In other countries there were the "bards", that would play music for free to anyone and they were respected, paid and fed by people who had wealth.
So, this immorality of our age that only rich people can buy art should make us outrageous, not making us people feeling shame and guilt of not paying them!
They should feel ashamed of putting artists, good artists into this system for the sake of making themeselves more money.
People, wake up, we don't need to pay more the ones that are already rich.
Not only on cathedral organs and nazi experiments, but on simple every day life subwoofers this is on work as well. Most good(==expensive) subwoofers use a wide range of low frequencies that can only be "heard" by the body.
It's not very difficult to imagine how it works. Remember how some low beat sounds in night clubs makes the body tremble.
I Greece, it is not so clear and simple. Some smart students are indeed nerds, but most of smarter students go to gym, have girl/boyfriends etc. etc.
In fact, most weak students are not at all popular, and very smart students tend to be more popular than the very weak.
There will always be some weak students that are popular, and smarter that are unpopular but the opposite is so common as well so you can't make such generalization there.
Well I mean, common, that can't be so generalized in USA as well, I can't believe all the smart are unpopular and all dumb and "stylish" popular.
The failure rate of spam filters is still 1 to 5%. This is a fairly large ammount of email if you count how many of these are transfered each day. I don't want any of my personal emails being blocked as spam because that friend of mine used a phrase like "I got that job which pays me really good".
What we need is
- better laws concerning internet privacy
- shutting down of spamming machines
- getting these spammers understand somehow how much we appreciate their spam and at what extent we read it. That will make them less interested in spam.
These movements have no intention to make profit on the same spot, it's mostly about commerciallity of the company. "Oh look, this is a net cafe of that guy that has one on Everest".
look smart ass, the post was referring to the other smart asses friends of yours that insist of referring to linux as a i386 OS. it was a mistake to use the phrase "linux hardware" but your ignorant smart ass post had no place.
People are talking of stability superiority of Solaris over Linux on this matter, when they don't take into account these two simple facts:
a) This is supposed to render stuff, not to be a 24/7 system. I suppose it's booted today, used for a week or 4 days and then shut down again, until they have stuff to render.
b) People forget that Solaris runs on Sun hardware, not Linux hardware. Don't blame Linux for IBM and Intel's faults _please_.
Nice to see some code spread on the net.
It doesn't really matter to real programmers if it's gpl or fbsd or anything.
Having the source and getting ideas from it is a good thing.
That doesn't count on any court ever existed on earth. If I get your house because you were on vacation for 9 years doesn't make me an owner.
The only thing that exists is if something never was in the possession of anyone can easily be obtained by the first founder.
But this is a 1st level domain which is not "first found", it gets more complicated, it's not just "oh see, I got this domain and no one owns so it's mine". 2nd level domains org.uk, ac.uk exist which make the case not that simple.
Oh well, there's also the case of violent wars, when a hostile imperialistic nation gets other peoples' land and makes it its own, but that's not the case here either.
Interesting story. It's sounds so strange having all these second level org.uk, ac.uk, police.uk etc. and non an official .uk operator.
It's the same thing that makes me wonder why is that the case.
How can all these second level domain operators exist but not an operator of the 1st level?
Why don't they give it to the sum of the second level operators to decide?
If the matter is really on the air, that's the most sane solution I can think of
You are right on that. When it goes to you that want to learn it's better to enforce them out since it'll be more fun for them, more helpfull to you.
When someone keeps the porn mag or inet personal or to his/her friends, then it's their fault and their problem or just their choice.
Let the porn mag pass if that's what they want. If they don't wanna learn, they won't learn whatever you do. Enforcing people on certain behaviours only creates stress and fear. So you get apart from inability and unwillingless to learn, fear, stress and hate on top
Learning is a productive procedure, in a sense, it produces thoughts and memories in your mind. On the other hand, people _must_ undestand:
If I'm not going to be concentrated because of prv messaging, I won't be due to that hot female student next to me too.
So, all this crap about productivity is utterly nonsense. Nice to hear some real reasons as "we got untraceable threats through AOL by allowing that prv msg systems", but productivity control? Poliiiise. If you don't wanna learn, a firewall won't help you.
Nice to hear there is some real reason for banning these ports at your place. That shows responsibility and not at all exceedance of your job's limitations.
We read all kinds of crap "as an IT department we believe these and these ports are bad..", get over it, you are not preachers, neither social advisors.
Nice to hear some real cases of enforcement coming out.
Excuse me, but how can _you_ decide what is productive to me? And when I say "you" it's not at all personal, it's about all these people that _exceed their job's limitations_.
You are a system administrator, you are here to block kazaa, movie downloading, perhaps illegal porn etc, but please, you are not a preacher neither a social advisor or a teacher.
Ah, that's nothing,
I've seen system administrators on european universities that have absolutely no idea how to set up a firewall.
An example is when they block anything except port 80. Then, they open anything, so anyone can use kazaa, do some cracking and generally abuse the academic bandwidth.
Then, they block it back again! so, they prove, port 80 is the only thing they know, so thats the only thing they can allow if they start blocking.
If you've lived on such a great administration environment - surprise surprise, it's so strange they use windows for name serving as well - that's really nothing.
Trust me, blocking prv messaging is nth compared to a blocked 22.
This is so because some quicktime videos have a menu driver start that cannot be handled by mplayer yet even if on windows these videos don't seem to have a menu i.e. they just start playing because there is no other choise than title 1
You have to play that, specifying the title number e.g. mplayer lala.mov -id 1
It will probably be some closed source technology that obviously is not working right from the first attempt. Strange noises can be heard from the TV, the Radio, the guys next door, or even the dog.
A similar but imo more sensible approach would be a simple computer box and a audio card with dynamic microphones that would be based on some nice open software which can be upgraded and be compatible with our needs.
Computers could do these things from the 80s. All we need is the software to do it.
I like the "there is no time" thing, however, I'm used to services and the the joy they have to provide stable channels. On efnet may be more "anarchistic" in a nice way but then again, small channels are difficult to be kept alive, many people like a small channel of 5-50 people and EFnet can't provide that to them with confidence.
6. Wait mama for cigarettes on visiting day
that will be offtopic
It's the copyright owners responsibility, not IRC networks' not even law enforcers.
It's like you create something and you don't want to share it so you get a gun and start threatening people if they touch it, you're gonna shoot.
It's the same all along. If the creators of movies and music, had a way to make something like the GPL on software it would be a good thing.
But the world is constructed in a way right now that money is needed, so people when they need to make a project like a movie or a music album that includes studios, manufacturing and marketing they don't want other people to get that stuff for free because they gave that money so they need their money back.
They'll say to you "yeah, it's a nice thing to have the script of the movie or its ideas under GPL but not the whole pack", and it's indeed normal to think that way. The spend that money, so the problem in this world is not the people that don't want you to copy their stuff, it's the whole economical system we are based on.
I so wait for they when robotics will be so advanced, everything that needs money will be handled by that.
Most channels are not owned by DALnet operators. That fact exists on EFnet and other networks that refuse to accept the fact that services are usefull so their operators become very, very, "protective" of their channels.
/server lalala.org and join #wareX" etc. etc.
Most DALnet channels that switched networks did it to make their own networks so they can be popular from day 0 having already 200-1000 members.
Topics that prove that included stuff like "DALnet has proven once more how unstable it is, use
Maybe it's the one with the most servers. The most crowded right now according to googleX is Quakenet (yeah, I know, most people don't even knew it existed, perhaps because it's mostly kids there and no file sharing channels at all)