I'm a PC gamer and, nahh, it's not really my type of game anyway. I prefer something that requires a little more thought, like "Europa Universalis (IV)" or something.You won't see that on a console ever,
That's what they said about DOOM
"You'll never see DOOM on a kiddie console."
And look what happened.
They also said it about Bioware games....and Bethesda games, and Blizzard games and Minecraft, and Terraria and Don't Starve and so many other games that it's just a silly thing to say.
And yes, I know how PC-centric and anti-console some European developers like Paradox can be, especially the older ones. That's just dumb economics. Euro-studios also seem to have trouble with "polish and usability"...maybe they'd learn a few things if they did a console game now and then.
the 12 years old would simply not understand what's going on
You do know the average console gamer has been an adult since the PSone days right?
The PSone did have something at launch have the N64 didn't....the PSone mouse. Which is the best way to play FPS games on the PSone if you have it. Surprised they never implemented USB mouse emulation of the PSone mouse on the PS3.
There's no way that you could have played all those games to know they were "pure shit", so you're just blowing smoke.
While perhaps 80 percent of anything is trash, but that VAST PSone library meant that there were a LOT of good games that outnumbered the good ones on the N64. More good games than one could ever play.
Besides by 1995 even the mediocre games had pretty good production values, enough that even the worst PSone games were more playable than the worst SNES, NES or 2600 games.
The PC ports alone put the PSone way ahead of the N64, not even throwing in all the RPG's. The PSone even has better character platformers than the N64 does, any of the Spyro games are better games than Mario 64.
Which is why Nintendo (and every other Japanese game developer) needs an American standing right by Miyamoto (and every other Japanese designer) to say "NO!" when they get some crazy hairbrained idea that "Will Not Go Over Well"
Navi? No! Tingle? No! Issun's Voice in Okami? No! Suda51 in general? No! Akitoshi Kawazu in General? NO! BAD! BAD!
I have a power processor in my PS3, and I wish it were as powerful as my old 1.8GHz Pentium IV, but its not.
It's more powerful, easy, a 3.2GHz dual-threaded CPU with Altivec? Not even counting the SPE's. The main limitation of the PS3 running Linux, is the RAM, you'll hit the RAM bottleneck before you do anything that really taxes that CPU. That PS3 will be much faster than that Pentium IV at tasks like image scaling in the GIMP. I know...I've done it. And if you're one of those people who can use SPE code for science work... that PS3 would stomp that P-IV silly.
Same for the PS2 Linux kit, CPU and bandwidth to burn, what it didn't have was RAM
If there is one thing I'm becoming exceptionally tired of, where RPGs are concerned, it is this scenario where the end game is the only thing anyone talks about.
In said forums, however, whenever newbies tried to get advice about weapons, the only thing that anyone would answer them with, was information about end-game named uniques or legendaries, for the most part. There was precious little info offered about the manufacturing corporations, the different elemental damage types, etc; stuff that people needed to know for the whole game. There was also the usual bullshit insistence that some character builds were not "viable," for end game content, when I've been going through UVHM with a Survival Commando, (probably the class/spec combo which attracts the largest amount of shit) with no problem at all.
The same thing happens in DCUO "The real game begins at the Level cap. It's partly a symptom of developers being lazy and focusing on their "hardcore" players at the espense of everyone else and making too much content for max-level characters.
For Diablo 3, I also blame the people who really want to play an MMO but don't want to pay a monthly fee or play an actual F2P MMO. I've told several people on their forum which I couldn't actually post to unless I had bought a Blizzard PC game (I bought PC Diablo 3 when I prefer the PS3 version, just so I could post!)
In Diablo 3's case it's also due to the PC gamer crowd as seeing the game as a competitive thing, a race to the top even if the game is actually designed as a cooperative game.
Console players see Diablo 3 far far more "cooperatively"
The funny thing is, cat pictures with funny captions were popular in Victorian times.
Amish don't use the internet for personal use, business use is another matter I think. It also depends on the group, different groups, different Ordnung. And there's other "German Anabaptist" groups that may look similar at first glance, like Hutterites and some old style Mennonites or even some "Dutch" Apostolic Christians, but aren't.
Jacob Yoder
Ha! Knew some Yoder's when I was young, and from what I gathered they were some of the less strict Mennonites.
it was 1991. The game-boy was out, cassettes were common place, many houses would have ataris or similar.
You mean NES's (and later in 1991 the SNES) and Genesis machines. CD's were also becoming more common in 91, though tapes were still the distribution medium of choice.
When I was growing up in the 80s, being the only kid without a Walkman and NES made me the "poor loser kid" on the block
Sometimes on Slashdot it seems like if you didn't have a C64/Amiga, and a shell account on the Unix machine at your Dad's workplace in the 80's, you were a "poor loser kid"
You can argue, but you don't get to dictate what I do and do not believe.
I said "No" because you said "all" which we both know is an exaggeration.
You know as well as I do, that there are far far more genre's out there than FPS's, RTS's and simulation...but that seems that those are the only genre's PC gamers want to talk about when it comes to controls. And those other genres...well some of them do play better with gamepads.
I've played plenty of RTS games with a controller back in the NES and SNES days
Your memory is faulty, there are no NES and SNES RTS's, the first one was a Genesis game, Herzog Zwei, (which inspired Westwood to do Dune II) so the genre actually originated on consoles. Never play the C&C series, Dune 2000, Warcraft II, or Warzone 2100 on a PSone?
I've played FFXI on both PS3 and PC. PC is far superior.
How so, it's the same game other than resolution.
[quote]On top of the keyboard being better than the controller for hot keys[/quote]
Say what? Those hotkeys were fast enough, easy to use too. Though I had a keyboard for chat and could use hotkeys that way too. You did know the PS2 supports USB keyboards right?
Yeah, they had to implement "assisted lock on" for console controllers in order for PC and console players to play together because a mouse was just too accurate when compared to a controller.
I am going to make a general rant of how I am sick and tired of elitist FPS fanboys thinking competitive FPS's are the be all of gaming. Yes the mouse makes those headshots easier...but that means that a gamer who can get headshots with the controller is thusly more skilled because it's more of a challenge, correct? And some might say that easy headshots aren't all that realistic. And I did point out that the old school FPSers considered mouse-look to be "Easy mode"
There's no question IMHO that PCs have the better controls for ALL games.
No.
Ever tried play an RTS with a console controller? It doesn't work
Yes, I have, and it does work. Have you, or are you just spouting what you think is true because you're one of those "PC Master Race" people.
FPS, keyboard and mouse beats console controller any day.
You know why PC FPS players like mice? Easy headshots. Maybe you don't remember when the first mouselook shooters showed up and the old school DOOM players calling that "easy mode" And I'll take analog movement over WASD any day.
MMORPG, I couldn't play without hot keys, keyboard and mouse wins.
You did know that Final Fantasy XI implemented hotkeys on the controller right? And that nobody, not even those who played it on the PC used keyboard to move and nobody used mice.
Simulator, too many controls for just a single controller.
That's what USB is for...which also lets you hook up a HOTAS or a keyboard and mouse if you want...so according to your own argument the PC has zero advantage in controls.
what does Sony do? release a slim model, that doesnt work with any of the shit you already have.
But if you already have a PSP, why would you need a new one?
And although Nintendo's portable platforms did have some backwards compatibility later versions of some of the handhelds reduce it. The GBA Micro doesn't play GB or GBC games for example. There's also no GBA slot on newer DS's.
Good recommendation on NCI. I didn't even think about the new user experience. (I've been in SL since July 2006) Grid knows what they'd see if they spent the first hour at a Zindra hub.
The Shelter and Caledon Oxbridge are also good start choices.
Wow. SOMEONE'S got a catchphrase stuck a mile up his ass. Do you need to talk about it? Because seriously, that comes right the fuck out of nowhere, sticks out like someone trying to force a meme, is debatable whether or not it means anything, and seriously isn't helping your case at all.
Perhaps I can explain a bit. "womyn born womyn" is a term predominately used by what are colloquially called radfems to marginalize MTF's because they don't consider them women.
And yes, I know some men don't either but most of those don't go out of their way to attack transwomen and the radfems DO.
And it's also refererencing the larger than usual numbers of MTF transwomen in computers/IT, that since the radfems don't consider us/them women you would need to ask the non-transwomen why they don't go into programming/IT
As far as I can tell, Velex has had some very bad experiences with Radfems and it's made her a bit... ranty at times about them. But she's got a point and I myself tend to get twitchy whenever I hear the word "radfem" or read their writings.
And yes, there are a larger than usual amount of MTF transpeople involved with computers either professionally or hobbyists. In part it's due to computers not rejecting one when one is young, and of course transpeople quickly figuring out how useful online social-networking was to us personally and the community. Linux use was rather higher than average in some transgender IRC channels, and I know of at least a half dozen transgender programmers at my favorite transgender message board.
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I'm a PC gamer and, nahh, it's not really my type of game anyway. I prefer something that requires a little more thought, like "Europa Universalis (IV)" or something.You won't see that on a console ever,
That's what they said about DOOM
"You'll never see DOOM on a kiddie console."
And look what happened.
They also said it about Bioware games....and Bethesda games, and Blizzard games and Minecraft, and Terraria and Don't Starve and so many other games that it's just a silly thing to say.
And yes, I know how PC-centric and anti-console some European developers like Paradox can be, especially the older ones. That's just dumb economics. Euro-studios also seem to have trouble with "polish and usability"...maybe they'd learn a few things if they did a console game now and then.
the 12 years old would simply not understand what's going on
You do know the average console gamer has been an adult since the PSone days right?
The PSone did have something at launch have the N64 didn't....the PSone mouse. Which is the best way to play FPS games on the PSone if you have it. Surprised they never implemented USB mouse emulation of the PSone mouse on the PS3.
There's no way that you could have played all those games to know they were "pure shit", so you're just blowing smoke.
While perhaps 80 percent of anything is trash, but that VAST PSone library meant that there were a LOT of good games that outnumbered the good ones on the N64. More good games than one could ever play.
Besides by 1995 even the mediocre games had pretty good production values, enough that even the worst PSone games were more playable than the worst SNES, NES or 2600 games.
The PC ports alone put the PSone way ahead of the N64, not even throwing in all the RPG's. The PSone even has better character platformers than the N64 does, any of the Spyro games are better games than Mario 64.
Which is why Nintendo (and every other Japanese game developer) needs an American standing right by Miyamoto (and every other Japanese designer) to say "NO!" when they get some crazy hairbrained idea that "Will Not Go Over Well"
Navi? No!
Tingle? No!
Issun's Voice in Okami? No!
Suda51 in general? No!
Akitoshi Kawazu in General? NO! BAD! BAD!
Yep, back in 2000. IBM's been throwing money/support at Linux for years.
I have a power processor in my PS3, and I wish it were as powerful as my old 1.8GHz Pentium IV, but its not.
It's more powerful, easy, a 3.2GHz dual-threaded CPU with Altivec? Not even counting the SPE's. The main limitation of the PS3 running Linux, is the RAM, you'll hit the RAM bottleneck before you do anything that really taxes that CPU. That PS3 will be much faster than that Pentium IV at tasks like image scaling in the GIMP. I know...I've done it. And if you're one of those people who can use SPE code for science work... that PS3 would stomp that P-IV silly.
Same for the PS2 Linux kit, CPU and bandwidth to burn, what it didn't have was RAM
Soon? The PS3/360 version released 2 weeks ago. Surprised it didn't get a mention on Slashdot.
If there is one thing I'm becoming exceptionally tired of, where RPGs are concerned, it is this scenario where the end game is the only thing anyone talks about.
In said forums, however, whenever newbies tried to get advice about weapons, the only thing that anyone would answer them with, was information about end-game named uniques or legendaries, for the most part. There was precious little info offered about the manufacturing corporations, the different elemental damage types, etc; stuff that people needed to know for the whole game. There was also the usual bullshit insistence that some character builds were not "viable," for end game content, when I've been going through UVHM with a Survival Commando, (probably the class/spec combo which attracts the largest amount of shit) with no problem at all.
The same thing happens in DCUO "The real game begins at the Level cap. It's partly a symptom of developers being lazy and focusing on their "hardcore" players at the espense of everyone else and making too much content for max-level characters.
For Diablo 3, I also blame the people who really want to play an MMO but don't want to pay a monthly fee or play an actual F2P MMO. I've told several people on their forum which I couldn't actually post to unless I had bought a Blizzard PC game (I bought PC Diablo 3 when I prefer the PS3 version, just so I could post!)
In Diablo 3's case it's also due to the PC gamer crowd as seeing the game as a competitive thing, a race to the top even if the game is actually designed as a cooperative game.
Console players see Diablo 3 far far more "cooperatively"
It runs fairly well on WINE, at least it did for me, even on my GT220.
I did have to:
1. turn on the emulate virtual desktop feature in WINE
2. use the following command to start it:
env WINEPREFIX="/home/CronoCloud/.wine" setarch i386 -3 -L -B -R wine "/home/CronoCloud/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Diablo III/Diablo III.exe
I only tried it in WINE because I wanted to "demo" the game before the PS3 version came out...I prefer my ARPG's with direct control via gamepad.
The funny thing is, cat pictures with funny captions were popular in Victorian times.
Amish don't use the internet for personal use, business use is another matter I think. It also depends on the group, different groups, different Ordnung. And there's other "German Anabaptist" groups that may look similar at first glance, like Hutterites and some old style Mennonites or even some "Dutch" Apostolic Christians, but aren't.
Jacob Yoder
Ha! Knew some Yoder's when I was young, and from what I gathered they were some of the less strict Mennonites.
it was 1991. The game-boy was out, cassettes were common place, many houses would have ataris or similar.
You mean NES's (and later in 1991 the SNES) and Genesis machines. CD's were also becoming more common in 91, though tapes were still the distribution medium of choice.
When I was growing up in the 80s, being the only kid without a Walkman and NES made me the "poor loser kid" on the block
Sometimes on Slashdot it seems like if you didn't have a C64/Amiga, and a shell account on the Unix machine at your Dad's workplace in the 80's, you were a "poor loser kid"
For another, it would cost hundreds of dollars more per year for a dumbphone user to switch to a phone that plays MP3s.
Most feature-phones DO play mp3's these days:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/Z431-black-prepaid.html
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/att/z222-black-prepaid.html
AT&T is known to "cram" a data plan onto a dumbphone SIM if it is ever inserted into a smartphone.
No. You can use a non-smartphone plan on a smartphone on AT&T using at least two methods.
1. Transfer a sim from a feature phone....you won't have data but you won't get a smartphone plan crammed on you.
2. Get a go-phone smartphone, and activate the phone online...not via the phone itself.
Seen it, own it, have the book the movie is based on. Andi is not as sympathetic in the book.
Not everyone on slashdot is the stereotypical basement dwelling dudebro nerd.
Remember the scene with the "blue" belt?
Cerulean!
You CAN play it on a backwards compatible PS3 though.
You can argue, but you don't get to dictate what I do and do not believe.
I said "No" because you said "all" which we both know is an exaggeration.
You know as well as I do, that there are far far more genre's out there than FPS's, RTS's and simulation...but that seems that those are the only genre's PC gamers want to talk about when it comes to controls. And those other genres...well some of them do play better with gamepads.
I've played plenty of RTS games with a controller back in the NES and SNES days
Your memory is faulty, there are no NES and SNES RTS's, the first one was a Genesis game, Herzog Zwei, (which inspired Westwood to do Dune II) so the genre actually originated on consoles. Never play the C&C series, Dune 2000, Warcraft II, or Warzone 2100 on a PSone?
I've played FFXI on both PS3 and PC. PC is far superior.
How so, it's the same game other than resolution.
[quote]On top of the keyboard being better than the controller for hot keys[/quote]
Say what? Those hotkeys were fast enough, easy to use too. Though I had a keyboard for chat and could use hotkeys that way too. You did know the PS2 supports USB keyboards right?
Yeah, they had to implement "assisted lock on" for console controllers in order for PC and console players to play together because a mouse was just too accurate when compared to a controller.
I am going to make a general rant of how I am sick and tired of elitist FPS fanboys thinking competitive FPS's are the be all of gaming. Yes the mouse makes those headshots easier...but that means that a gamer who can get headshots with the controller is thusly more skilled because it's more of a challenge, correct? And some might say that easy headshots aren't all that realistic. And I did point out that the old school FPSers considered mouse-look to be "Easy mode"
There's no question IMHO that PCs have the better controls for ALL games.
No.
Ever tried play an RTS with a console controller? It doesn't work
Yes, I have, and it does work. Have you, or are you just spouting what you think is true because you're one of those "PC Master Race" people.
FPS, keyboard and mouse beats console controller any day.
You know why PC FPS players like mice? Easy headshots. Maybe you don't remember when the first mouselook shooters showed up and the old school DOOM players calling that "easy mode" And I'll take analog movement over WASD any day.
MMORPG, I couldn't play without hot keys, keyboard and mouse wins.
You did know that Final Fantasy XI implemented hotkeys on the controller right? And that nobody, not even those who played it on the PC used keyboard to move and nobody used mice.
Simulator, too many controls for just a single controller.
That's what USB is for...which also lets you hook up a HOTAS or a keyboard and mouse if you want...so according to your own argument the PC has zero advantage in controls.
MKV is obviously not the best container format if it doesn't work in commonly available consumer devices.
Or do you think that people who use FLAC and Ogg Vorbis are "1337" poseurs too?
For the most part, yes, I do consider them poseurs. Just like the college educated hipsters wearing 50's bowling shirts and drinking PBR.
what does Sony do? release a slim model, that doesnt work with any of the shit you already have.
But if you already have a PSP, why would you need a new one?
And although Nintendo's portable platforms did have some backwards compatibility later versions of some of the handhelds reduce it. The GBA Micro doesn't play GB or GBC games for example. There's also no GBA slot on newer DS's.
Just like pirates to use some "l33t" format like .mkv when living room media devices don't support it. Use MPEG4 containers.
True, but once you do, you can have it on multiple devices at once.
Womanish? When has politeness become equated with womanish?
Don't be a misogynist.
Good recommendation on NCI. I didn't even think about the new user experience. (I've been in SL since July 2006) Grid knows what they'd see if they spent the first hour at a Zindra hub.
The Shelter and Caledon Oxbridge are also good start choices.
Wow. SOMEONE'S got a catchphrase stuck a mile up his ass. Do you need to talk about it? Because seriously, that comes right the fuck out of nowhere, sticks out like someone trying to force a meme, is debatable whether or not it means anything, and seriously isn't helping your case at all.
Perhaps I can explain a bit. "womyn born womyn" is a term predominately used by what are colloquially called radfems to marginalize MTF's because they don't consider them women.
And yes, I know some men don't either but most of those don't go out of their way to attack transwomen and the radfems DO.
And it's also refererencing the larger than usual numbers of MTF transwomen in computers/IT, that since the radfems don't consider us/them women you would need to ask the non-transwomen why they don't go into programming/IT
As far as I can tell, Velex has had some very bad experiences with Radfems and it's made her a bit... ranty at times about them. But she's got a point and I myself tend to get twitchy whenever I hear the word "radfem" or read their writings.
And yes, there are a larger than usual amount of MTF transpeople involved with computers either professionally or hobbyists. In part it's due to computers not rejecting one when one is young, and of course transpeople quickly figuring out how useful online social-networking was to us personally and the community. Linux use was rather higher than average in some transgender IRC channels, and I know of at least a half dozen transgender programmers at my favorite transgender message board.