I've confronted some of the outraged people on Slashdot, saying that if there were that many people running Linux on the PS3's....why didn't we see them on the YDL forum. As for me, I was affected, but made the choice to update so I'm not complaining.
As I've said before, you are mistaken, it wasn't, I actually went to a store in 2006 to check a launch PS3's box to see if it mentioned OtherOS, it didn't. My OtherOS capable CECHE box didn't mention it either.
Sony used the ability to run Linux as a " computer" to get a reduced import tariff versus an "electronic toy". Does Sony get to pay the back taxes now???
No, they didn't, you are confusing Linux on the PS3, with YaBasic on the PS2. And it failed. it doesn't matter because the tariff was removed shortly after the YaBasic attempt.
Cacique, wasn't it? Lane Bryant's house lingerie line?
You probably know that LB (the store) and VS were both part of "The Limited" group at one time. LB (the store) stuff was made at the same factories that made VS stuff, and some of it was simply upsized versions of the old VS classics.
Then "The Limited" decided that the plus size market wasn't lucrative enough and sold LB (the store) to Charming Shoppes...the owners of Fashion Bug and Catherine's. (Charming shoppes now dominates the plus size clothing market, and they even have their own magazine, Figure.) But last I heard Cacique's stuff is still made at the same factories that make VS. Ahhh it's looks like Charming's going to divest Fashion Bug to focus on Lane Bryant.
The PS2 version may have tweaked the character models and animation but it doesn't look anywhere close to the original version running on a PC today
That's not my point. my point was that the PS2 version looked better than the PC version at that time.
The PS2 version also had auto-aim
I hate that term because it's inaccurate. The term should be aim-assist, and while the PS2 port has it, you can most certainly turn it off.
and a 'streamlined' UI.
Yes it does, but have you played it to know how it affects the game? Probably not. I've played both versions and the changes are minimal, the big one is that passwords/lock codes are entered automatically if you have them, you don't need to push individual keys on numpad on a door. That's actually smart.
Dicsovery's "Military Channel" is now the "Hitler Channel", thank goodness they finally spun all the guns and stuff off for the Panzer obsessed bearded Mil-sim heads to watch while leaving real history for the History Channel....oh wait....that's what was supposed to happen.
Reality TV is cheap, though TLC was always reality show based, documentaries and whatnot. It originally stood for The Learning Channel and once showed content for health care providers to fullfill continuing education requirements in the off hours.
course, "pimp your house" shows will get LOTS of ad dollars from Home Depot, Menards, Lowe's, etc. In fact I partly blame TLC and Home Depot/Loewe's for the housing bubble.
1. TLC shows show about couple buying a house only to upgrade it and sell it a couple of years down the line...flipping. "Flipping houses is fun and easy"
2. Home Depot/Loewe's show commercials on "DIY is fun and easy we even have classes on how to use the stuff you buy."
3. Bunches of people buy houses, not to live in for the rest of their lives, but to soley to flip and become instant "millionaires" who will then buy and even BIGGER house than they actually need.
The funny thing is, SCEfoo is "Weird", and all over the map on these things.
The original PSP supports MP3, WMA and AAC, and you don't need special software to put music on it. It was the first Sony portable music playing device to support MP3 natively without converting to ATRAC. (Though it also supports ATRAC as well)
But the thing uses fragile UMD's...the damn little white shells crack if you look at them funny.
The PS2 can use standard PATA hard drives if you want to install Linux on the thing....but if you want to use the hard drive for games like FFXI you have to have sony one.
The PS3 doesn't care what kind of external storage (or internal storage) you use with it, you can upgrade to any 2.5" SATA HD, and use any USB storage device as long as it's FAT. the deluxe model even has built in CF, SD and MSduo slots. However....it lacks PSone controller ports and USB support in PS2 games works exactly like it does in PS2 games. So if you want to use voice chat in a PS2 game on a PS3...you have to have a USB headset, a bluetooth one won't work. If you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse....they have to be plugged into separate ports. for them to work with the games that support them because most (but not all) PS2 games won't recognize a mouse plugged into a keyboards built in hub. That even applies to the officially PS2 badged USB keyboard=with-usb-port-for-mousethat you get with the Linux kit. Which also means that with certain PSone games, you're out of luck, because you can't map a USB mouse attached to the PS3 to emulate the rare PSone mouse.
As far as I know, it isn't SCEfoo (the various Playstation divisions) that's been losing money. SCEfoo's been propping up the company for years, which is why SCEfoo could get away with things that other Sony divisions couldn't.
There was at one time another possible choice, buy a console, install Linux on it and use it for PS2/PS3 console games AND "console games" (like Nethack) and serious stuff.
Sony hs an "app" section in the PSN store now, why the fuck they don't release a better web browser (Firefox and/or Opera via YDL blew GameOS's Netfront away) some kind of simple text editor/wordpad clone, e-mail client and/or PDF reader I'll never know.
There's still plenty of budget boxes shipping with Nvidia 6150SE's, which won't run Skyrim well...at all. They probably wouldn't run Oblivion that well either. Of course he could pick up something like a GT220 or 240 cheap and wouldn't need to spend 150.
I think there's some kind of texture glitch in Skyrim, including the PS3 version I play. Textures can look awful, especially faces, NPC's actually look "worse" than those of Oblivion and Fallout 3! I figure it's not properly loading the "pretty close up" textures properly or soemething.
Ha ha, actually I HAVE played Nethack on an interlaced NTSC display, on a PS2 Linux kit no less. Did it on my PS3 as well, but that was HD. That stupid darkblue Nethack uses for eyes and fountains is even harder to see on NTSC than it is on monitors, so you almost have to set up your terminal colors to change terminal color 4 to something else, I prefer DodgerBlue.
I would say this, what console gamers can handle and what stupid marketroids THINK the "dudebro brown-shooter and sports games only" gamers can handle are two different things.
Don't blame the players, blame the marketing people.
You mean Xbox-itis, not consolitis since the first game was also released on the PS2...with improved graphics and included mouse and keyboard support for those who wanted it.
PS2/PS3 owners tended to not to be as braindead as XBox "halo obsessed dudebro gamers", in the past anyway, We have our own "Kratos obsessed Dudebro gamers" now thanks to God of War.
A cluster of three PS3s: 920 GFLOPS. Price: about $800.
Less than that, because they would have to buy older used PS3's, CECHA/CECHB/CECHE models and they'd need to have pre 3.21 firmware. Difficult but probably cheaper.
A PC with 3 GTX 460 cards: 2200 GFLOPS. Price: about $800.
Woudn't the 450's alone cost about 500, let alone a motherboard that can handle 3 of them, and a good power supply and cooling. I think that PC total is estimating a bit low.
Perhaps the poster could do both, because some calculations might work better on the PS3's and some on the 460's. Even in Folding@home, there's still calculations the PS3's do better than the GPU clients, because they're more versatile, as they say, taking the middle path between the CPU and GPU clients.
What I don't get is why She-Ra had so much better stories and writing than He-Man, same production company but She-Ra was obviously written by someone who cared. Hordak, was simply a much better, more competent and better written villain than Skeletor ever was.
I really don't think that last 120 pixels matter all that much, really.
Look, if you can hook up a non RF device to the screen it's technically a monitor. Back in the 80's TV sets that also had non-RF inputs were also called monitors, they were usualy badged as TV/Monitors, they usually had much nicer screens too, much more expensive though. In fact in the same period some people were predicting that all tV sets would become monitors to facilitate hooking home computers up, and that you would attach external TV tuners to them. so called "component systems" They never took off.
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I've confronted some of the outraged people on Slashdot, saying that if there were that many people running Linux on the PS3's....why didn't we see them on the YDL forum.
As for me, I was affected, but made the choice to update so I'm not complaining.
It was written directly on the first-gen boxes.
As I've said before, you are mistaken, it wasn't, I actually went to a store in 2006 to check a launch PS3's box to see if it mentioned OtherOS, it didn't. My OtherOS capable CECHE box didn't mention it either.
Sony used the ability to run Linux as a " computer" to get a reduced import tariff versus an "electronic toy". Does Sony get to pay the back taxes now???
No, they didn't, you are confusing Linux on the PS3, with YaBasic on the PS2. And it failed. it doesn't matter because the tariff was removed shortly after the YaBasic attempt.
Why do people still get this wrong?
[quote]And stop adding those damned 'u's to words ending in -or...it's just obnoxious.[/quote]
It's just a variant, both were used before dictionaries standardized spelling. We went one way they went the other.
And another thing, -ize, not -ise, is proper English, even the OED says so.
Cacique, wasn't it? Lane Bryant's house lingerie line?
You probably know that LB (the store) and VS were both part of "The Limited" group at one time. LB (the store) stuff was made at the same factories that made VS stuff, and some of it was simply upsized versions of the old VS classics.
Then "The Limited" decided that the plus size market wasn't lucrative enough and sold LB (the store) to Charming Shoppes...the owners of Fashion Bug and Catherine's. (Charming shoppes now dominates the plus size clothing market, and they even have their own magazine, Figure.) But last I heard Cacique's stuff is still made at the same factories that make VS. Ahhh it's looks like Charming's going to divest Fashion Bug to focus on Lane Bryant.
The PS2 version may have tweaked the character models and animation but it doesn't look anywhere close to the original version running on a PC today
That's not my point. my point was that the PS2 version looked better than the PC version at that time.
The PS2 version also had auto-aim
I hate that term because it's inaccurate. The term should be aim-assist, and while the PS2 port has it, you can most certainly turn it off.
and a 'streamlined' UI.
Yes it does, but have you played it to know how it affects the game? Probably not. I've played both versions and the changes are minimal, the big one is that passwords/lock codes are entered automatically if you have them, you don't need to push individual keys on numpad on a door. That's actually smart.
What happened to my beloved "Hitler Channel"?
Dicsovery's "Military Channel" is now the "Hitler Channel", thank goodness they finally spun all the guns and stuff off for the Panzer obsessed bearded Mil-sim heads to watch while leaving real history for the History Channel....oh wait....that's what was supposed to happen.
Reality TV is cheap, though TLC was always reality show based, documentaries and whatnot. It originally stood for The Learning Channel and once showed content for health care providers to fullfill continuing education requirements in the off hours.
course, "pimp your house" shows will get LOTS of ad dollars from Home Depot, Menards, Lowe's, etc. In fact I partly blame TLC and Home Depot/Loewe's for the housing bubble.
1. TLC shows show about couple buying a house only to upgrade it and sell it a couple of years down the line...flipping. "Flipping houses is fun and easy"
2. Home Depot/Loewe's show commercials on "DIY is fun and easy we even have classes on how to use the stuff you buy."
3. Bunches of people buy houses, not to live in for the rest of their lives, but to soley to flip and become instant "millionaires" who will then buy and even BIGGER house than they actually need.
The funny thing is, SCEfoo is "Weird", and all over the map on these things.
The original PSP supports MP3, WMA and AAC, and you don't need special software to put music on it. It was the first Sony portable music playing device to support MP3 natively without converting to ATRAC. (Though it also supports ATRAC as well)
But the thing uses fragile UMD's...the damn little white shells crack if you look at them funny.
The PS2 can use standard PATA hard drives if you want to install Linux on the thing....but if you want to use the hard drive for games like FFXI you have to have sony one.
The PS3 doesn't care what kind of external storage (or internal storage) you use with it, you can upgrade to any 2.5" SATA HD, and use any USB storage device as long as it's FAT. the deluxe model even has built in CF, SD and MSduo slots. However....it lacks PSone controller ports and USB support in PS2 games works exactly like it does in PS2 games. So if you want to use voice chat in a PS2 game on a PS3...you have to have a USB headset, a bluetooth one won't work. If you plug in a USB keyboard and mouse....they have to be plugged into separate ports. for them to work with the games that support them because most (but not all) PS2 games won't recognize a mouse plugged into a keyboards built in hub. That even applies to the officially PS2 badged USB keyboard=with-usb-port-for-mousethat you get with the Linux kit. Which also means that with certain PSone games, you're out of luck, because you can't map a USB mouse attached to the PS3 to emulate the rare PSone mouse.
As far as I know, it isn't SCEfoo (the various Playstation divisions) that's been losing money. SCEfoo's been propping up the company for years, which is why SCEfoo could get away with things that other Sony divisions couldn't.
Hard drive, you might want an SSD for performance, and DVD drive.
We have those, the PS3/PSP mini's on PSN.
I think some of the games in the bundles DID make it to PSN and the Wiiware store (I don't have a 360 so I don't know about if any are on Marketplace)
There was at one time another possible choice, buy a console, install Linux on it and use it for PS2/PS3 console games AND "console games" (like Nethack) and serious stuff.
Sony hs an "app" section in the PSN store now, why the fuck they don't release a better web browser (Firefox and/or Opera via YDL blew GameOS's Netfront away) some kind of simple text editor/wordpad clone, e-mail client and/or PDF reader I'll never know.
There's still plenty of budget boxes shipping with Nvidia 6150SE's, which won't run Skyrim well...at all. They probably wouldn't run Oblivion that well either. Of course he could pick up something like a GT220 or 240 cheap and wouldn't need to spend 150.
I think there's some kind of texture glitch in Skyrim, including the PS3 version I play. Textures can look awful, especially faces, NPC's actually look "worse" than those of Oblivion and Fallout 3! I figure it's not properly loading the "pretty close up" textures properly or soemething.
Ha ha, actually I HAVE played Nethack on an interlaced NTSC display, on a PS2 Linux kit no less. Did it on my PS3 as well, but that was HD. That stupid darkblue Nethack uses for eyes and fountains is even harder to see on NTSC than it is on monitors, so you almost have to set up your terminal colors to change terminal color 4 to something else, I prefer DodgerBlue.
I would say this, what console gamers can handle and what stupid marketroids THINK the "dudebro brown-shooter and sports games only" gamers can handle are two different things.
Don't blame the players, blame the marketing people.
You mean Xbox-itis, not consolitis since the first game was also released on the PS2...with improved graphics and included mouse and keyboard support for those who wanted it.
PS2/PS3 owners tended to not to be as braindead as XBox "halo obsessed dudebro gamers", in the past anyway, We have our own "Kratos obsessed Dudebro gamers" now thanks to God of War.
A cluster of three PS3s: 920 GFLOPS. Price: about $800.
Less than that, because they would have to buy older used PS3's, CECHA/CECHB/CECHE models and they'd need to have pre 3.21 firmware. Difficult but probably cheaper.
A PC with 3 GTX 460 cards: 2200 GFLOPS. Price: about $800.
Woudn't the 450's alone cost about 500, let alone a motherboard that can handle 3 of them, and a good power supply and cooling. I think that PC total is estimating a bit low.
Perhaps the poster could do both, because some calculations might work better on the PS3's and some on the 460's. Even in Folding@home, there's still calculations the PS3's do better than the GPU clients, because they're more versatile, as they say, taking the middle path between the CPU and GPU clients.
or a Fat PS2, you'd still need the Linux kit to boot it though.
I think they used to show the UK version of Being Human on BBC America.
Yeah, what was up with that?
What I don't get is why She-Ra had so much better stories and writing than He-Man, same production company but She-Ra was obviously written by someone who cared. Hordak, was simply a much better, more competent and better written villain than Skeletor ever was.
I really don't think that last 120 pixels matter all that much, really.
Look, if you can hook up a non RF device to the screen it's technically a monitor. Back in the 80's TV sets that also had non-RF inputs were also called monitors, they were usualy badged as TV/Monitors, they usually had much nicer screens too, much more expensive though. In fact in the same period some people were predicting that all tV sets would become monitors to facilitate hooking home computers up, and that you would attach external TV tuners to them. so called "component systems" They never took off.
You should have got a Windows style C:prompt, including truncated directroy names if they were over 8 characters.
Try an "export" before the command, and see if that helps