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On a PC you have at least 104 keys, at least 2 buttons and a pointer.
I have 12 buttons (4 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, select and start and L3/R3) and 2 analog sticks. Surely with properly designed UI, that should be enough. Just because one has 104 keys, doesn't mean that a game should use them all, that's just bad UI design. I remember the old days when games couldn't assume one had a joystick and defaulted to keyboard control. Keyboard control...for action games. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Sure, if you're playing a turn based game like Nethack using the whole keyboard works, but why have UI more complex than it needs to be, when it comes to UI, simpler is better. Which makes more sense, having ";" as reload or clicking down the left analog stick for L3. Holding Ctrl + W for move slowly forward and Shift +W for running or actually having analog movement. Having functions that are rarely used assigned to keys, or putting those functions in a menu that one accesses with a menu button and joypad/stick.
Notice how I haven't said anything about mice, I like mice, I own the SNES mouse, PSone mouse and I hook up a USB mouse to the PS2. I like having mouse support as appropriate in games where it fits. It's the keyboard as a game controller (especially in action games) I dislike.
In addition console demographics are inherantly less sophisticated than PC demographics. A console player puts disk in, plays. A PC player checks requirements, updates drivers, patches, installs and/or creates modifications and/or maps, and in general is willing to spend FAR more intellectual effort on a game than a console player.
Intellectual effort spent getting the game to actually work is not the same asl intellectual effort on playing the game. Wouldn't you rather spend more time actually playing games, and less time downloading patches, updating drivers and whatnot? You and I both know that there are console games every bit as cerebral as the most supposedly cerebral PC games. Now you might have had a point back in the 80's when there was a higher proportion of graybeard table top gamer/wargamer/ flight sim grognards among PC gamers, playing the latest from Jim Dunnigan, SSI, and whatnot. But these days when the most popular PC game genre is FPS, I don't think there's much difference in "intellect". Really, is there that much of a difference between a Halo obsessed fanboy and a PC FPS fanboy?
But here's the thing, the PS2 port of the original isn't dumbed down, so why did they think they had to dumb down the sequel? There's also other games that made the PC to console jump quite well because it IS possible to change the UI to suit the console controller without changing gameplay.
The fault lies with developers under-estimating (and essentially insulting) the console players.
Ever play the PS2 port of the original? Now that's how to do a PC to console port. Simplify the UI a bit but keep all the customization and plot options. And throw in keyboard and mouse support.
The problem with DX IW was Xbox-itis, not really console-itis.
Don't blame all consoles for the faults of the Xbox. Remember, the original with all the plot points and character options was also ported to the PS2, they even threw in keyboard and mouse control as an option.
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They had to tweak the maps, and they simplified the UI, but in a good way. If you have a passcode for a door, just activate the keypad and the door opens, you don't have to input the passcode manually. (or have to go into your inventory to find it before hand)
But get this, they could have thrown in a "enter passcodes manually" option for hardcore players anyway, because Deus Ex on the PS2 has mouse and keyboard support.
The left (not "the Democrat Party", the left) looks at ordinary people as incapable.
You could change "left" and "democrat" to sysadim or "IT guy" and it would still be accurate. You've seen how the slashdot sysadmin crowd thinks of users.
As it would if you changed it "slashdot libertarian". You've seen how the "slashdot libertarians" think that everyone except themselves are stupid.
Without the leftists, ordinary people would die of starvation and leave their children to wander the streets fighting dogs for the contents of trash cans.
That DID happen rather frequently in the past, even here in the US. The progressives did (and do) their best to put an end to that.
Sesame Street is a huge profitable enterprise.....now. There was a time, before Sesame Street on Ice, before Tickle me Elmo, before Sesame Street this and that, that it wasn't.
What I'm wondering is why didn't Hushmail, when the authorities show up on their external security cameras, just essentially do the secure wipe equivalent of:
Okay, the F15 is old, so why not build new F15's, which are STILL better than anyone else's shit, and not spend money to design a new aircraft, when we already have the ability to build one that is very much sufficient to defeat any foe.
n fact, if you bother to try it, you'll see Linux on the PS3 is pretty crap in general. Very slow, limited RAM.
Oh come now, a 3.2 GHz system with 256MB of RAM should run Linux acceptably, especially with a window manager like E17. Though I'd swap that with fluxbox. Remember that many out of the box XP systems intended for home use had 256MB of RAM.
Considering what a PS2 with a Linux kit installed can do, the PS3 should work better.
Remember, these are typical Walmart customers here.
In small town America, everyone shops at Wal-Mart. Factory workers, office workers, small business owners, doctors, lawyers, even the geeks that live there.
How many of these people are expected to have DSL or Cable instead of dial-up?
Considering how heavily the phone companies and cable companies advertise their DSL and high speed internet packages, more than you might think. I've had broadband for over 5 years
How many are going to be returned because they don't have MS Office pre-installed on them?
Wouldn't Wal-Mart customers as you describe them, not need Microsoft Office?
There was the standalone Adam computer, which also played Colecovision games, and there was also the Adam Expansion for the Colecovision. Two separate products. The standalone Adam was a most certainly a personal computer out of the box. And even if the standard Colecovision wasn't a computer out of the box, it was designed to make it easy to make it one.
Naah, see what he'll do is issue the pardons, and then resign a a couple of hours before he would normally leave office, thus letting Vice-President Cheney become acting President, who will then pardon Bush. Not that I really expect that to happen.
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I have 12 buttons (4 face buttons, 4 shoulder buttons, select and start and L3/R3) and 2 analog sticks. Surely with properly designed UI, that should be enough. Just because one has 104 keys, doesn't mean that a game should use them all, that's just bad UI design. I remember the old days when games couldn't assume one had a joystick and defaulted to keyboard control. Keyboard control...for action games. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. Sure, if you're playing a turn based game like Nethack using the whole keyboard works, but why have UI more complex than it needs to be, when it comes to UI, simpler is better. Which makes more sense, having ";" as reload or clicking down the left analog stick for L3. Holding Ctrl + W for move slowly forward and Shift +W for running or actually having analog movement. Having functions that are rarely used assigned to keys, or putting those functions in a menu that one accesses with a menu button and joypad/stick.
Notice how I haven't said anything about mice, I like mice, I own the SNES mouse, PSone mouse and I hook up a USB mouse to the PS2. I like having mouse support as appropriate in games where it fits. It's the keyboard as a game controller (especially in action games) I dislike.
Intellectual effort spent getting the game to actually work is not the same asl intellectual effort on playing the game. Wouldn't you rather spend more time actually playing games, and less time downloading patches, updating drivers and whatnot? You and I both know that there are console games every bit as cerebral as the most supposedly cerebral PC games. Now you might have had a point back in the 80's when there was a higher proportion of graybeard table top gamer/wargamer/ flight sim grognards among PC gamers, playing the latest from Jim Dunnigan, SSI, and whatnot. But these days when the most popular PC game genre is FPS, I don't think there's much difference in "intellect". Really, is there that much of a difference between a Halo obsessed fanboy and a PC FPS fanboy?
Don't judge all console players by the standards of the Halo obsessed Xbox fans.
I'll say this again but it is possible to tweak the UI for a PC to console port so that it works well on a console without upsetting PC players.
But here's the thing, the PS2 port of the original isn't dumbed down, so why did they think they had to dumb down the sequel? There's also other games that made the PC to console jump quite well because it IS possible to change the UI to suit the console controller without changing gameplay.
The fault lies with developers under-estimating (and essentially insulting) the console players.
Ever play the PS2 port of the original? Now that's how to do a PC to console port. Simplify the UI a bit but keep all the customization and plot options. And throw in keyboard and mouse support.
The problem with DX IW was Xbox-itis, not really console-itis.
Don't blame all consoles for the faults of the Xbox. Remember, the original with all the plot points and character options was also ported to the PS2, they even threw in keyboard and mouse control as an option.
No, it wasn't. You forgot about the PS2 version.
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/specials/special.pl?spec=deusps2&pagenum=1
They had to tweak the maps, and they simplified the UI, but in a good way. If you have a passcode for a door, just activate the keypad and the door opens, you don't have to input the passcode manually. (or have to go into your inventory to find it before hand)
But get this, they could have thrown in a "enter passcodes manually" option for hardcore players anyway, because Deus Ex on the PS2 has mouse and keyboard support.
Pluto is a dingleberry dipshit of a Kuiper Belt Object with delusions of planethood.
Camera wise the PSone Spyro games have Mario 64 beat, which is why I consider them far far superior 3D platformers than Mario 64.
You could change "left" and "democrat" to sysadim or "IT guy" and it would still be accurate. You've seen how the slashdot sysadmin crowd thinks of users.
As it would if you changed it "slashdot libertarian". You've seen how the "slashdot libertarians" think that everyone except themselves are stupid.
That DID happen rather frequently in the past, even here in the US. The progressives did (and do) their best to put an end to that.
Sesame Street is a huge profitable enterprise.....now. There was a time, before Sesame Street on Ice, before Tickle me Elmo, before Sesame Street this and that, that it wasn't.
What I'm wondering is why didn't Hushmail, when the authorities show up on their external security cameras, just essentially do the secure wipe equivalent of:
rm -rf sensitive_data/
Okay, the F15 is old, so why not build new F15's, which are STILL better than anyone else's shit, and not spend money to design a new aircraft, when we already have the ability to build one that is very much sufficient to defeat any foe.
But Sony does own Naughty Dog (Jak and Daxter)
Plus "Sucker Punch" (Sly cooper) also has close ties with Sony.
Smile when you say that, pardner.
[CronoCloud@midgar CronoCloud]$ cat
cpu MIPS
cpu model R5900 V3.1
system type EE PS2
BogoMIPS 392.39
byteorder little endian
[CronoCloud@midgar CronoCloud]$ cat
PS2 Linux release 1.0
Heck PS3 Linux users have it easy, since it's a PPC Linux they have tons of binaries available and don't have to compile everything.
Oh come now, a 3.2 GHz system with 256MB of RAM should run Linux acceptably, especially with a window manager like E17. Though I'd swap that with fluxbox. Remember that many out of the box XP systems intended for home use had 256MB of RAM.
Considering what a PS2 with a Linux kit installed can do, the PS3 should work better.
The PS3 can run Linux, so it already has VLC builds available.
Considering how heavily the phone companies and cable companies advertise their DSL and high speed internet packages, more than you might think. I've had broadband for over 5 years
Wouldn't Wal-Mart customers as you describe them, not need Microsoft Office?
It won't need to run QuckTax, the browser based Tax preparation sites are good enough for the majority of folks that file 1040A/1040EZ forms.
No Wordpad, though it does have a simple notetaker. I was referring more to things like PS2's/PS3's which can easily run something Wordpad-ish.
The PS2 can output HD if the software supports it, as the Linux kit does. 1024x768 not good enough? It can go higher, up to 1080i with a patched Xgsx.
There was the standalone Adam computer, which also played Colecovision games, and there was also the Adam Expansion for the Colecovision. Two separate products. The standalone Adam was a most certainly a personal computer out of the box. And even if the standard Colecovision wasn't a computer out of the box, it was designed to make it easy to make it one.
Oh they do, though I haven't. Bunches of SL folk keep telling me I need to read Snow Crash.
Don't Thunderbird and Outlook have S/MIME support built right in?
Naah, see what he'll do is issue the pardons, and then resign a a couple of hours before he would normally leave office, thus letting Vice-President Cheney become acting President, who will then pardon Bush. Not that I really expect that to happen.
Didn't Hello Kitty conquer the USA? Considering all the Hello Kitty stuff you can buy. >^o.o^