I'm amazed that anyone cares about PC when most of the best supposedly "PC only" games will get ported to console. And since Windows is a mediocre OS, why not play the games on something that doesn't run Windows.
Last night I was in a chat room with someone who tried five different WLAN cards he already owned of which Ubuntu successfully detected zero, but Windows let him load a driver from a USB flash drive.
USB wi-fi devices should "just work" on any modern Linux, even most PCI cards should work. Failing that, a wifi bridge will work.
Why do you focus so much attention on young people? Is it that ASD thing were Autistic spectrum people often socialize with people younger than them?
Most high school students DON'T have comp sci 101 homework, and if they do, they probably do it via the web, not via a compiler/interpreter installed on their home machine.
And if they do need a compiler/interpreter that can be installed by the machine's admin.
The 1571 works with the C64. When you boot a C64 connected to it, the 1571 boots in single-sided 1541 mode, but there's a command sequence that puts the drive into double-sided mode. It won't be any faster, but you'll have double the storage.
That's not a problem because anyone using e-mail for contracts/legal stuff is going to use digital signatures. One can even set digital signatures as the default in e-mail clients. EVERY e-mail I send is digitally signed.
Ah, sorry I guess I could have been more clear, I wasn't trying to invalidate your point, I was just trying to remember which games. So just curiosity.
[quote]Physical signatures with point to point delivery and receipt verification are often required to close a legal business transaction. Emails don't provide that proof.[/quote]
Hey, I've played several of the PSone RTS's both with and without the PSone mouse. I wouldn't exactly call the controller clumsy. While some actions were easier/quicker with the mouse, there were some actions that were easier/quicker with the controller.
And of course PC RTS's have evolved into the "you have to micromanage every tiny unit clicky clicky fests on adderall" subgenre rather than the "lasso a bunch" genre they originally were.
Lappads or TV trays can help with using a keyboard and/or mouse in the living room with your console.
a handful of hardcore players will set up their console on a desk as if it was a PC and destroy even the best pad users. Letting the minority who have thier console in a "desktop" setup dominate the game is not good for buisness.
My console set up is desktop style, but that was because I played MMO's and used Linux. I had the PS2 Linux kit (and played EQOA and FFXI) and YDL on the PS3 (and DCUO and FreeRealms)
And since I have STO, Neverwinter, TESO, DCUO and War Thunder... I still use a desktop style setup for the PS4.
I've mentioned in other threads about mouse and keyboard the ideas you bring up. Why do all FPS's have to be twitchy headshoty bunny hoppy mouse centric one with railgun duels across an entire map. Why can't an FPS be more tactical, realistic and movement centric
It was the pretty much the same in FFXI on the PS2/PC everyone played together and it had the same translate feature as well as mouse/keyboard support. Though very few people used the mouse, even PC players didn't use the mouse much.
The PS4 version of War Thunder has controller and keyboard+mouse support,
HOTAS support as well. Yes there are PS4 War Thunder Players with Warthogs. The PS4 version also supports using the PS4 camera for TrackIR style view control.
The War Thunder community is somewhat welcoming to the PS4 users...well except for the Europeans who tend more towards the PC partisan thing. Even the PC players admit the PS4 players adapted VERY quickly to ground combat and dive-bombing though not as quickly to dogfighting in furballs.
Which is why the War Thunder users that didn't use the easy-mode mouse flying were VERY welcoming towards the PS4 players.
Though War Thunder supports ALL control schemes on ALL platforms (Windows, OSX, PS4, Linux) so anyone can use ANY control scheme. You've got PS4 users with HOTAS (you can also use the PS4 camera as a TrackIR style view control), Windows users using hybrid controller + mouse schemes for tanks, Linux users with mouse-flying, etc etc.
FPS games are a driving force in the current gaming landscape, and console controllers are a decisively second-rate controller for the genre.
Depends on the game design really, the PC meta for FPS's tends towards the bunny-hop headshot paradigm which makes accurate aiming important. Now take a game like Splatoon where movement is emphasized, that works better with an analog stick.
Personal anecdotes:
I found Alien Resurrection and Quake II worked better on the PSone with the PSone mouse. In fact I (and most reviewers) consider the PSone mouse a necessity for Alien Resurrection.
I didn't feel the need for the mouse in SOCOM on the PS2, which is a slower paced realism focused game, but Timesplitters (faster paced) I wanted a mouse. Deus Ex and Half-Life on the PS2 support whatever input you want so I used hybrid style, move with the stick aim with the mouse. I also didn't feel the need for a mouse in the PS2 Star Wars Battlefront games
The Orange Box on the PS3 does NOT support alternate controls so no hybrid controls in HL2, TF2 or Portal, boooo! Dust514 did, though since Dust also has vehicles one basically had to switch control schemes since vehicles worked better with the controller.
Absolutely no reason why you couldn't sell LibreOffice through the Playstation storefront - except maybe some DRM-vs-GPL issues.
I actually have ran OO on a PS3 with YDL, though I preferred AbiWord for my word processing needs. I have ran AbiWord on a PS2 as well.
Heck since the PS4 is a BSD system, they could probably do it tomorrow if they wanted to. I've always wondered why SCEA didn't release some kind of Bank Street Writer/Wordpad/GeoWrite/GeoPaint style applications for the PS3/PS4.
I don't know why PC gamers think RTS are such a mouse-only game when the first RTS was a console game, Herzog Zwei. That's right, the genre that the so-called Masterrace goes on about originated on consoles.
That said, the RTS's on the PSOne have PSone mouse support. I'm surprised Blizzard ported Starcraft to the N64 and not the PSone which already HAD a small niche market for RTS games.
I would start with a conventional shell scripting language. On a Windows box that would be batch files, on a Linux box, probably bash. Both have direct applications in addition to being functional for rudimentary understanding of programming.
I run Linux and I am NOT a programmer or dev of any sort, but even I have made up a few simple scripts here and there with the help of the Google to do various things.
I've played around with turtle graphics in Python too, but that's not as useful as even simple bash scripts can be.
It's kind of funny each time I see someone attack energy independence as if it's a "left" issue. Nixon was trying to get a plan together for the same sort of thing until Watergate came out and he couldn't get anything done.
Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act Title IX
Also we would have had Single-payer universal health care and a form of Universal Basic Income. If only he hadn't been so paranoid and hadn't sent the Plumbers to Watergate.
Though Teddy Kennedy partly blamed himself for the healthcare thing, he'd stalled the vote on it to get a few more concessions for lower income taxpayers out of Nixon (which Nixon was willing to compromise on)...but then...watergate happened before they sealed the deal and had the vote and after that No one wanted to do ANYTHING with Nixon.
try and be another XBox or Playstation which both are devices designed for people who are too poor to afford PCs or too stupid to use them.
consoles were around before the DOS PC was. They exist for many reasons.
Price/performance ratio. Remember this, in 1997 games like Diablo and Fallout 1 were 256 color sprites and tiles DOS games when PSone games were running 32-bit color with polygonal graphics.
Ease of use/lack of problems related to Windows. A console doesn't have to run all the services a general purpose Windows machine runs.
To wit: in 2012, most home theater amps only supported DDS and DTS via S/PDIF.
I think you are mistaken, there were amps in 2006 that could do LPCM over HDMI. I know Onkyo had them.
Lack of DD5.1 is a major reason why I always get the xb360 version of any game
LPCM is superior, don't use DD.
The xb360 is ALSO why I'm able to enjoy DD 5.1 surround with Netflix & Amazon... it's the ONLY platform allows you to enjoy surround sound with streaming video services if your amp lacks hdmi and DD7.1+
I am a JRPG guy so i like stuff like that, and theres plenty of hours i spend playing those games.
You're a JRPG guy....but you play on the WiiU? What kind of alternate universe do you live in?
If you want to play JRPG's the Wii aren't the systems you want, you want a PS4, Vita and PS3. The PS4/PS3/Vita have MORE JRPG's than any other system out there.
Dejanews was going to archive all Usenet content, then Google was going to do it. Try to find Usenet content now.
Google does archive USENET, though it took them a while to complete their archive. It only became complete a couple of years ago I think when they were given a copy of some older archives some private groups/universities had.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, you can, but in practice it tends to be single "tech guys" with money to burn on tech toys that do it.
I'm amazed that anyone cares about PC when most of the best supposedly "PC only" games will get ported to console. And since Windows is a mediocre OS, why not play the games on something that doesn't run Windows.
I didn't know that ICQ was sold to Mail.ru, thanks for the heads up.
Last night I was in a chat room with someone who tried five different WLAN cards he already owned of which Ubuntu successfully detected zero, but Windows let him load a driver from a USB flash drive.
USB wi-fi devices should "just work" on any modern Linux, even most PCI cards should work. Failing that, a wifi bridge will work.
Why do you focus so much attention on young people? Is it that ASD thing were Autistic spectrum people often socialize with people younger than them?
Most high school students DON'T have comp sci 101 homework, and if they do, they probably do it via the web, not via a compiler/interpreter installed on their home machine.
And if they do need a compiler/interpreter that can be installed by the machine's admin.
The 1571 works with the C64. When you boot a C64 connected to it, the 1571 boots in single-sided 1541 mode, but there's a command sequence that puts the drive into double-sided mode. It won't be any faster, but you'll have double the storage.
That's not a problem because anyone using e-mail for contracts/legal stuff is going to use digital signatures. One can even set digital signatures as the default in e-mail clients. EVERY e-mail I send is digitally signed.
Ah, sorry I guess I could have been more clear, I wasn't trying to invalidate your point, I was just trying to remember which games. So just curiosity.
[quote]Faxes are considered legal documents. Emails are a very gray area. [/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
[quote]Physical signatures with point to point delivery and receipt verification are often required to close a legal business transaction. Emails don't provide that proof.[/quote]
E-mail most certainly CAN provide that proof.
Hey, I've played several of the PSone RTS's both with and without the PSone mouse. I wouldn't exactly call the controller clumsy. While some actions were easier/quicker with the mouse, there were some actions that were easier/quicker with the controller.
And of course PC RTS's have evolved into the "you have to micromanage every tiny unit clicky clicky fests on adderall" subgenre rather than the "lasso a bunch" genre they originally were.
Keyboard and mouse pretty much requires a desk.
Lappads or TV trays can help with using a keyboard and/or mouse in the living room with your console.
a handful of hardcore players will set up their console on a desk as if it was a PC and destroy even the best pad users. Letting the minority who have thier console in a "desktop" setup dominate the game is not good for buisness.
My console set up is desktop style, but that was because I played MMO's and used Linux. I had the PS2 Linux kit (and played EQOA and FFXI) and YDL on the PS3 (and DCUO and FreeRealms)
And since I have STO, Neverwinter, TESO, DCUO and War Thunder... I still use a desktop style setup for the PS4.
I've mentioned in other threads about mouse and keyboard the ideas you bring up. Why do all FPS's have to be twitchy headshoty bunny hoppy mouse centric one with railgun duels across an entire map. Why can't an FPS be more tactical, realistic and movement centric
there are games that are crossplatform between all five.
Which ones, I can only think of 3: DCUO, FFXIV and Destiny?
It was the pretty much the same in FFXI on the PS2/PC everyone played together and it had the same translate feature as well as mouse/keyboard support. Though very few people used the mouse, even PC players didn't use the mouse much.
The PS4 version of War Thunder has controller and keyboard+mouse support,
HOTAS support as well. Yes there are PS4 War Thunder Players with Warthogs. The PS4 version also supports using the PS4 camera for TrackIR style view control.
The War Thunder community is somewhat welcoming to the PS4 users...well except for the Europeans who tend more towards the PC partisan thing. Even the PC players admit the PS4 players adapted VERY quickly to ground combat and dive-bombing though not as quickly to dogfighting in furballs.
Which is why the War Thunder users that didn't use the easy-mode mouse flying were VERY welcoming towards the PS4 players.
Though War Thunder supports ALL control schemes on ALL platforms (Windows, OSX, PS4, Linux) so anyone can use ANY control scheme. You've got PS4 users with HOTAS (you can also use the PS4 camera as a TrackIR style view control), Windows users using hybrid controller + mouse schemes for tanks, Linux users with mouse-flying, etc etc.
FPS games are a driving force in the current gaming landscape, and console controllers are a decisively second-rate controller for the genre.
Depends on the game design really, the PC meta for FPS's tends towards the bunny-hop headshot paradigm which makes accurate aiming important. Now take a game like Splatoon where movement is emphasized, that works better with an analog stick.
Personal anecdotes:
I found Alien Resurrection and Quake II worked better on the PSone with the PSone mouse. In fact I (and most reviewers) consider the PSone mouse a necessity for Alien Resurrection.
I didn't feel the need for the mouse in SOCOM on the PS2, which is a slower paced realism focused game, but Timesplitters (faster paced) I wanted a mouse. Deus Ex and Half-Life on the PS2 support whatever input you want so I used hybrid style, move with the stick aim with the mouse. I also didn't feel the need for a mouse in the PS2 Star Wars Battlefront games
The Orange Box on the PS3 does NOT support alternate controls so no hybrid controls in HL2, TF2 or Portal, boooo! Dust514 did, though since Dust also has vehicles one basically had to switch control schemes since vehicles worked better with the controller.
Absolutely no reason why you couldn't sell LibreOffice through the Playstation storefront - except maybe some DRM-vs-GPL issues.
I actually have ran OO on a PS3 with YDL, though I preferred AbiWord for my word processing needs. I have ran AbiWord on a PS2 as well.
Heck since the PS4 is a BSD system, they could probably do it tomorrow if they wanted to. I've always wondered why SCEA didn't release some kind of Bank Street Writer/Wordpad/GeoWrite/GeoPaint style applications for the PS3/PS4.
Console version of an RTS game.
I don't know why PC gamers think RTS are such a mouse-only game when the first RTS was a console game, Herzog Zwei. That's right, the genre that the so-called Masterrace goes on about originated on consoles.
That said, the RTS's on the PSOne have PSone mouse support. I'm surprised Blizzard ported Starcraft to the N64 and not the PSone which already HAD a small niche market for RTS games.
While I think swear words are overused in the real world and on slashdot, I would very definitely NOT consider slashdot to be a "family" website.
Especially not with all the Hot Grits and natalie portman jokes in the old days.
I would start with a conventional shell scripting language. On a Windows box that would be batch files, on a Linux box, probably bash. Both have direct applications in addition to being functional for rudimentary understanding of programming.
I run Linux and I am NOT a programmer or dev of any sort, but even I have made up a few simple scripts here and there with the help of the Google to do various things.
I've played around with turtle graphics in Python too, but that's not as useful as even simple bash scripts can be.
It's kind of funny each time I see someone attack energy independence as if it's a "left" issue. Nixon was trying to get a plan together for the same sort of thing until Watergate came out and he couldn't get anything done.
Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act
Title IX
Also we would have had Single-payer universal health care and a form of Universal Basic Income. If only he hadn't been so paranoid and hadn't sent the Plumbers to Watergate.
Though Teddy Kennedy partly blamed himself for the healthcare thing, he'd stalled the vote on it to get a few more concessions for lower income taxpayers out of Nixon (which Nixon was willing to compromise on)...but then...watergate happened before they sealed the deal and had the vote and after that No one wanted to do ANYTHING with Nixon.
Damnit Nixon!
try and be another XBox or Playstation which both are devices designed for people who are too poor to afford PCs or too stupid to use them.
consoles were around before the DOS PC was. They exist for many reasons.
Price/performance ratio. Remember this, in 1997 games like Diablo and Fallout 1 were 256 color sprites and tiles DOS games when PSone games were running 32-bit color with polygonal graphics.
Ease of use/lack of problems related to Windows. A console doesn't have to run all the services a general purpose Windows machine runs.
Game selection.
To wit: in 2012, most home theater amps only supported DDS and DTS via S/PDIF.
I think you are mistaken, there were amps in 2006 that could do LPCM over HDMI. I know Onkyo had them.
Lack of DD5.1 is a major reason why I always get the xb360 version of any game
LPCM is superior, don't use DD.
The xb360 is ALSO why I'm able to enjoy DD 5.1 surround with Netflix & Amazon... it's the ONLY platform allows you to enjoy surround sound with streaming video services if your amp lacks hdmi and DD7.1+
It is 2016, don't buy an amp without HDMI.
I am a JRPG guy so i like stuff like that, and theres plenty of hours i spend playing those games.
You're a JRPG guy....but you play on the WiiU? What kind of alternate universe do you live in?
If you want to play JRPG's the Wii aren't the systems you want, you want a PS4, Vita and PS3. The PS4/PS3/Vita have MORE JRPG's than any other system out there.
Dejanews was going to archive all Usenet content, then Google was going to do it. Try to find Usenet content now.
Google does archive USENET, though it took them a while to complete their archive. It only became complete a couple of years ago I think when they were given a copy of some older archives some private groups/universities had.
The content is easy to find:
https://groups.google.com/foru...
try entering your topic/subject, username and newsgroup name as follows in the search bar.
subject anoncoward@foo.com group:name.of.group