PS2's equipped with Linux kits can easily surf the web (Mozilla, Phoenix, dillo, links-graphic, kfm, lynx, etc) and do word processing (Abiword, Ted). Easy enough to hook your PS2 up to cable modem or router.
Hey fella, I bet you're livin in your parents cella downloadin pics of Sarah Michelle Gellar And postin "Me too", like some brain dead AOLer I should do the world a favor and cap you like Ol Yeller You're just about as useless as jpegs to Helen Keller
Right. I too have a Linux box using an obscure CPU (for Linux anyways) R5900 MIPS. For the most part, I can't download precompiled binaries, I have to have source.
On a C128 with a 1571 it's even easier since Shift Run/Stop loads the first program on disc in the same way the CBM 8032's did.
Also on a C128, some programs will auto boot if you have the disk in the drive and turn the machine on.
Always unnnerving to see that Microsoft copyright message on a Commodore machine. But since Microsoft did the original job for a flat fee and Commodore kept the right to alter the original code at will, Billy never made additional dime from all those C64's sold.
Alien Resurrection for the PSone supported exactly this configuration. Dual shock in the left hand for movement and PSone mouse in the right hand for aiming. Worked fine, too bad the difficulty level on the game was too high.
Geez Greg, maybe you should have stuck with tabletop RPG's.
Most garage bands suck. Most garage games suck.
The licensed games that you consider dreck sell because that's what the PLAYERS want. They want the FIFA/NASCAR/NFL etc games with the new yearly lineups and some gameplay/graphics improvements and tweaks. The general audience wants to fly a broom through Hogwarts and play quidditch. They want to pummel Venom as Spider Man or foil the egomaniacal wannabe world conqeuror as James Bond. They also want to be able to go to their local K-Mart/Wal-Mart and buy a shrink wrapped game on the shelf.
Sometimes all a game needs is some incremental improvements to lift it from average to great. For example Dark Cloud was a good game, but Dark Cloud 2 is a great one. Level 5 fixed a whole bunch of the things that were frustrating in the first game and gave the new one a whole new look. Yes it's a sequel, but IMHO a sequel that's better than the original.
There's also plenty of innovation in the mainstream games, you just have to have eyes that see rather than self absorbed blindness. And blindness is something some developers are good at. Take Ion Storm. They do an homage to Squaresoft in Anachronox. But they make the game for the PC instead of the gaming systems that the majority of Squaresoft fans own, the PS1/PS2. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Or take those developers that think they can do a good AAA quality game with all the trimmings with a small team and then they have to delay and delay and delay that game because it isn't finished. The game that I mentioned above, Dark Cloud 2 had 8 people just working on character motion, another 9 just working on game balance., 6 more on the map graphics.
One final note, whenever I read comments or articles by Meier, Wright, Costikyan, Spector etc it's almost like consoles don't exist to them. Which is surprising since that's where the numbers and money are. There's nothing stopping them from doing an original game for a console, not just letting someone else port one theirs.
Yep. At least the xrhino 2.2.21 kernel has more USB support. I've been thinking about BlackRhino but I'll have to repartition and I don't think BlackRhino's X works yet.
you're right I must have missed seeing the Mozilla last night. It works, better than Amaya or kfm. Not as fast as dillo or links-graphic. Go ahead and do the complete install, chatzilla works too. There's no SSL in it though, I think. But otherwise it seems ok so far. I'm going to put it through it's paces and see what happens.
Don't need a monitor to install anymore. Turns out there's a joypad sequence that will let you choose the display mode when you first boot it up. It's Select+R1 for NTSC.
part of the problem is that the default Windowmaker installation does NOT install certain things, like the iputils and KDE. On the kit KDE is much better than Gnome. In fact KDE2 runs better on the kit than the included version of Gnome does. And once you've got KDE installed you've got kfm as a web browser. But, I use links-graphic and dillo myself.
I originally used my kit with a 1902A! However, it died, and I replaced it with a Philips 14rf50s which is suspiciously a lot like the old Commodore monitors. It also died recently and I need to get it repaired.
I myself wouldn't recommend using any connection quality less than S-Video with the kit. Using anything else you'll have to bump up text sizes a bit to read it. That's for X mind you, straight text console is fine no matter what. As usual YMMV depending on your TV.
No Mozilla, it won't compile. I don't think OpenOffice will either. Abiword does, as will Koffice for KDE2. Gaim, up to 59.8 does. You can most certainly hook a printer up to it, I use an HP 680c with mine. You can also hook a digital camera to it, at least with the XRhino kernel. Now that's with the standard stuff. Might be easier to get Mozilla running with this Black Rhino stuff.
I use it because I haven't gone to the trouble of finding, downloading and compiling a newsreader that will run fine on an R5900 box with only 32MB of RAM. That also explains the KDE 1.
As long as I'm not running Kmail and don't let it sit idle for too long, it works fine. I'm using KRN version 0.6.0 if that's of any interest.
I'm not expecting any help, I figured you moved on to more important things. I was just teasing you a little.
So you're the guy I should blame for KRN's weirdness. Like the fact that it seems to refuse to send posts if kmail is running. Or that it seems to disconnect from my news server on it's own and when I try to post, crashes.
It's the least trustworthy KDE 1 app I run. Then again when it does work, it works well. It isn't a bad app, just buggy.
Playstation 2's and Xbox's both play DVD's, I don't know what you mean by "hopefully"
Plus you can buy a Linux kit for the Playstation 2. That's right you can wordprocess, compile code, surf the net, generate cool fractal images to print, and play Nethack, right there on a PS2.
You also have to remember that almost everyone has a TV so there is no "cost of ownership" problem. And if you have a TV you can also use it to actually watch TV.:-)
You did know that there's a PS2 version of the Sims out now, with Gamecube and Xbox versions soon to follow. And one buys consoles every 5 years or so. Because most players own just one and not all three.
SOCOM's still going strong on the PS2. Perhaps if PC developers weren't so chronically behind on their schedules PC gamers wouldn't have to "expand" their games so much wating for the next big release. On consoles there's more than enough games to play so one doesn't have to keep playing the same game with or without mods for years.
RTS's ARE playable on consoles, with or without mouse support.
What rip off online packages are you talking about. to go online with a PS2 all you need is a 39 dollar network adapter.
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PS2's equipped with Linux kits can easily surf the web (Mozilla, Phoenix, dillo, links-graphic, kfm, lynx, etc) and do word processing (Abiword, Ted). Easy enough to hook your PS2 up to cable modem or router.
Hey fella, I bet you're livin in your parents cella
downloadin pics of Sarah Michelle Gellar
And postin "Me too", like some brain dead AOLer
I should do the world a favor and cap you like Ol Yeller
You're just about as useless as jpegs to Helen Keller
It's all about the Pentiums
Right. I too have a Linux box using an obscure CPU (for Linux anyways) R5900 MIPS. For the most part, I can't download precompiled binaries, I have to have source.
On a C128 with a 1571 it's even easier since Shift Run/Stop loads the first program on disc in the same way the CBM 8032's did.
Also on a C128, some programs will auto boot if you have the disk in the drive and turn the machine on.
Always unnnerving to see that Microsoft copyright message on a Commodore machine. But since Microsoft did the original job for a flat fee and Commodore kept the right to alter the original code at will, Billy never made additional dime from all those C64's sold.
Alien Resurrection for the PSone supported exactly this configuration. Dual shock in the left hand for movement and PSone mouse in the right hand for aiming. Worked fine, too bad the difficulty level on the game was too high.
Quake 2 and Alien Resurrection for the PSone both had a joypad left hand/mouse right hand option and it worked well.
Geez Greg, maybe you should have stuck with tabletop RPG's.
Most garage bands suck.
Most garage games suck.
The licensed games that you consider dreck sell because that's what the PLAYERS want. They want the FIFA/NASCAR/NFL etc games with the new yearly lineups and some gameplay/graphics improvements and tweaks. The general audience wants to fly a broom through Hogwarts and play quidditch. They want to pummel Venom as Spider Man or foil the egomaniacal wannabe world conqeuror as James Bond. They also want to be able to go to their local K-Mart/Wal-Mart and buy a shrink wrapped game on the shelf.
Sometimes all a game needs is some incremental improvements to lift it from average to great. For example Dark Cloud was a good game, but Dark Cloud 2 is a great one. Level 5 fixed a whole bunch of the things that were frustrating in the first game and gave the new one a whole new look. Yes it's a sequel, but IMHO a sequel that's better than the original.
There's also plenty of innovation in the mainstream games, you just have to have eyes that see rather than self absorbed blindness. And blindness is something some developers are good at. Take Ion Storm. They do an homage to Squaresoft in Anachronox. But they make the game for the PC instead of the gaming systems that the majority of Squaresoft fans own, the PS1/PS2. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Or take those developers that think they can do a good AAA quality game with all the trimmings with a small team and then they have to delay and delay and delay that game because it isn't finished. The game that I mentioned above, Dark Cloud 2 had 8 people just working on character motion, another 9 just working on game balance., 6 more on the map graphics.
One final note, whenever I read comments or articles by Meier, Wright, Costikyan, Spector etc it's almost like consoles don't exist to them. Which is surprising since that's where the numbers and money are. There's nothing stopping them from doing an original game for a console, not just letting someone else port one theirs.
Yep. At least the xrhino 2.2.21 kernel has more USB support. I've been thinking about BlackRhino but I'll have to repartition and I don't think BlackRhino's X works yet.
you're right I must have missed seeing the Mozilla last night. It works, better than Amaya or kfm. Not as fast as dillo or links-graphic. Go ahead and do the complete install, chatzilla works too. There's no SSL in it though, I think. But otherwise it seems ok so far. I'm going to put it through it's paces and see what happens.
Don't need a monitor to install anymore. Turns out there's a joypad sequence that will let you choose the display mode when you first boot it up. It's Select+R1 for NTSC.
Yep, there's samba. And you can install mplayer, xmms, etc.
part of the problem is that the default Windowmaker installation does NOT install certain things, like the iputils and KDE. On the kit KDE is much better than Gnome. In fact KDE2 runs better on the kit than the included version of Gnome does. And once you've got KDE installed you've got kfm as a web browser. But, I use links-graphic and dillo myself.
What if you only have 2 partitions /dev/hda1 linux swap approx 139MB /dev/hda2 root filesystem approx 39GB ie the rest of the entire HD?
I originally used my kit with a 1902A! However, it died, and I replaced it with a Philips 14rf50s which is suspiciously a lot like the old Commodore monitors. It also died recently and I need to get it repaired.
The PS2 Linux kit comes with a 40GB HD and Ethernet only Network adapter.
I myself wouldn't recommend using any connection quality less than S-Video with the kit. Using anything else you'll have to bump up text sizes a bit to read it. That's for X mind you, straight text console is fine no matter what. As usual YMMV depending on your TV.
No Mozilla, it won't compile. I don't think OpenOffice will either. Abiword does, as will Koffice for KDE2. Gaim, up to 59.8 does. You can most certainly hook a printer up to it, I use an HP 680c with mine. You can also hook a digital camera to it, at least with the XRhino kernel. Now that's with the standard stuff. Might be easier to get Mozilla running with this Black Rhino stuff.
Thanks for the informative explanation. I think the basic overall design of KRN was/is pretty good.
I use it because I haven't gone to the trouble of finding, downloading and compiling a newsreader that will run fine on an R5900 box with only 32MB of RAM. That also explains the KDE 1.
As long as I'm not running Kmail and don't let it sit idle for too long, it works fine. I'm using KRN version 0.6.0 if that's of any interest.
I'm not expecting any help, I figured you moved on to more important things. I was just teasing you a little.
So you're the guy I should blame for KRN's weirdness. Like the fact that it seems to refuse to send posts if kmail is running. Or that it seems to disconnect from my news server on it's own and when I try to post, crashes.
It's the least trustworthy KDE 1 app I run. Then again when it does work, it works well. It isn't a bad app, just buggy.
You can run Nethack on the PS2 Linux kit. :-)
Take one playstation 2.
Add one Linux kit for said playstation 2.
Surf the net, open word documents, upload to ftp servers, edit HTML, print recipes or resume's. You can also program it.
Playstation 2's and Xbox's both play DVD's, I don't know what you mean by "hopefully"
:-)
Plus you can buy a Linux kit for the Playstation 2. That's right you can wordprocess, compile code, surf the net, generate cool fractal images to print, and play Nethack, right there on a PS2.
You also have to remember that almost everyone has a TV so there is no "cost of ownership" problem. And if you have a TV you can also use it to actually watch TV.
You did know that there's a PS2 version of the Sims out now, with Gamecube and Xbox versions soon to follow. And one buys consoles every 5 years or so. Because most players own just one and not all three.
SOCOM's still going strong on the PS2. Perhaps if PC developers weren't so chronically behind on their schedules PC gamers wouldn't have to "expand" their games so much wating for the next big release. On consoles there's more than enough games to play so one doesn't have to keep playing the same game with or without mods for years.
RTS's ARE playable on consoles, with or without mouse support.
What rip off online packages are you talking about. to go online with a PS2 all you need is a 39 dollar network adapter.