But, please, keep up with the excuses for your continued discrimination. I loved the ones in the military where women with four DUIs who barely pass the advancement test became the new wave of senior NCOs; just to be fair.
And how many times over the decades did some good ol boy sergeant or officer from Texas/Mississippi/Georgia get his infractions ignored because he was white and a "good ol boy", or the son of some long career officer.
Hell, John McCain himself benefitted from that, he should have been court martialed for the stunts he pulled, notwithstanding kicked out of the academy.
You have it hard today because your parents were held down their whole life? Well, that sucks, but *now* you have the ability to secure a future for your own children. Instead of moping around about shit that happened in the past, do something about the future.
yeah it's easy to say something like this, if your dad worked at Bell labs and you had a Unix terminal at your house in the 80's...but advantages and disadvantages matter. And with enough disadvantages and effects of same you will NEVER catch up.
As an example, lets talk about that discussion of AP CS classes
I don't recall seeing mention in the discussion of schools that don't have such classes. Such classes are basically an urban magnet school/suburban thing. You take some kid who's had that kind of enrichment and have them compete with kids who may have been lucky to have a keyboarding class. The "game" is rigged.
Hey, my dad was the child of sharecroppers from Kentucky and no matter how bad it was do you know what he told me his parents and grandparents said:
"Better than being a nigger." They may have been po' white trash, but they were still white. And don't tell me that skin color wasn't and still is an advantage in certain situations/areas.
As TFA states the drug is an arthritis drug and AIDS did actually reduce the arthritis symptoms of Arthritis sufferers who acquired AIDS, was told that by my mothers Rheumatologist. Some Arthritis sufferers have immune systems so "revved up" that they're effectively immune to AIDS. drugs like tofacitinib are basically controllable immune suppression Tofacitinib is basically used for those who can't tolerate the first line immune supressor...methotrexate.
Methotrexate is effective and because arthritis sufferers take it in seriously low doses they don't get the some of the side effects cancer patients get. It's now a first line treatment, I think preferred over even hydroxychloroquine. Worked fairly well on my mother, they had her stop taking it, they thought it was perhaps causing her blood counts to go seriously wrong and supress her appetite. Don't even have to inject it, Arthritis patients can just take a syringe, draw the dose of the liquid (most common form) and put it in water.
I wonder if methotrexate would have had the same effect on that fellows alopecia universalis
Nursing schools started doing some outreach to men in the early 2000's. It's not as much as I'd like to see though and they really don't do a good job of advertising that they do so. I am seeing more male nurses, but it's still rare. I'm in "social services" myself, working with persons with disabilities, which is majority female...but more men there than in nursing or other types of "social services". But I'm GLBT and thusly not the "Typical male"
Strangely EMT's tend to be fairly diverse representative of society as a whole, at least here they are.
So? If it's the interviewer who's sexist/racist, it's the interviewer who should pay.
The problem is, we might not know the interviewer is that way. And even if he is at fault, his interviewees who get hired have financially benefitted from his bigotry.
Say I take out $20 at an ATM, and receive 2 $20's but am only debited for one. It is wrong for me to keep that extra 20, even if I am not at fault and the bank doesn't know I got the extra $20.
Besides, we are all part of the same society, its everyone's problem. Yes I know a bunch of slashdotters don't believe in "societal contracts" and hate it when people like me say "we are all in this together" but those guys are just being selfish jerks. Probably read too much Heinlein while growing up.
There are some grants and scholarships, not big money yet. But it's only recently that big money started going to try to get women in computing/IT. It'll happen, eventually.
If you have reasonable aptitude and work hard, you would need a bizarre string of bad luck not to be successful in America today.People need to stop complaining and demanding handouts, turn off the TV, get up off their behinds, and work for success.
And that, is a lie, we both know it. A lie promulgated by Wall Street and certain political interests to keep people docile. "anyone can be a success if they work hard, lets just forget that some people have a head start and some are wearing weights. If your'e not a success it's a moral failure not a fault of the entire socio-economic system."
There is no need to punish anybody for their skin color over what people of the same skin color did in past centuries.
So making leveling the playing field is punishing those who received unearned advantages WITHOUT working for them?
Focusing on the escapes isn't focusing on the problem.
yes it is, becuase Madison Avenue teaches boys that Beer, sports and Halo is what being a man is about. They're not "escapes" they're what guy-culture has been intentionally turned into to make more money for ESPN, and beer companies.
Yes, I knew guys who might be diagnosed as ADHD, but their real problem is that their parents didn't teach them learning skills. Instead of saying "Hey, read a book now and then" it was "Hey your big brother plays on the Team and you want to be Team Captain too someday, go throw a football around for hours" And then because they spend so much time on not-reading and not-academics, they're not very good at school and get fidgety. All they know is sports. It's not that the enviroment is hostile, it's that they didn't learn how to adjust their behavior to the environment as other people did.
The problem being, more boys have that problem now, thanks to Madison Avenue.
Steinway could start a program to get more kids interested in playing the piano
Steinway would love that, their sales are lower than they were. Part of that is that pianos are less affordable. Strangely, some years back you could find affordable electronic keyboards/synths...with MIDI no less even at places like Wal-Mart and K-mart. They're gone now...and it isn't the internet, they were gone before internet shopping became a thing.
Why do I, who has never made crude jokes to a woman in the workplace, have to pay for the idiocy of other males who were being jerks? Why do I have to get smeared with the same paintbrush? Why do I have to pay for past sins that neither I, nor any member of my family for generations past, ever committed? (E.G. slavery - all of my relatives farmed their own land, thank you).
Okay, lets put it this way. Your family never owned slaves...but didn't have to compete on a level playing field in regards to jobs/land/whatever. So you benefitted indirectly from it, without engaging in it. So yes it's possible to not be a sexist...and benefit from the sexism of others. For example, if you're applying for a job, and the interviewer is sexist/racist. You don't know that, but benefit from that persons behavior.
In other words quoting Aragorn in the LOTR
"it seemed fit that Isildur's heir should labour to repair Isildur's fault"
Where's the big push to get men working as nurses, librarians, grade-school teachers, secretaries, and any number of other female dominated professions?
There IS a big push, especially in nursing and education You however are a Slashdotter and live in a "The only thing that matters is Computers, IT, and Programming" bubble so you never heard of that.
WHY no big recruitment drive to get men into what have been seen as woman's career paths ? ? ?
Actually there IS a big recruitment drive. Nursing programs have been doing it for a couple of decades now. It just doesn't get mentioned on Slashdot, because of course on Slashdot, the only thing that matters is computers.
WHY no bitching and moaning about how society is worse off because of THAT ? ? ?
There has been bitching and moaning, for a few decades now. You've just been living in a "There is only IT and programming" bubble.
Do they have any programs to get men interested in other topics? Nope.
Actually they do, K12 education and nursing in particular. They don't get mentioned here on Slashdot, becuase the only important thing in the world is IT and programming, right?
But somehow they want to drive the boys out of the classroom.
Boys are doing that themselves. Well to be more accurate, it's boy culture. And boy culture is a creation of madison avenue who decided it made more money for corporations by selling beer, Halo, and ESPN to boys than more "cerebral" things.
most of the guys currently dominating c.s. learned to code in their parents' basement when they were 12, because they wanted to.
And what was the gateway? Games! And what were video games considered? A guy thing. What did all those old video game ads show? Dad and son playing with mom and sis watching. So the basement coders existed because at that time, computers were considered a part of the "male nerd" sphere of things and not something for everyone.
"Computers are for everyone, not just nerds" really didn't start taking hold until the late 90's when the internet boom started and gave a reason for people other than nerds and gamers to own computers in the home.
With aviation, the problem is that it's an extremely military oriented thing. How many of the male pilots out there are ex-military, it's a fairly high percentage. And until relatively recently...women were excluded from pilot MOS's. Not only that but as a hobby, it's an expensive one.
Oh that's easy, some of it is male culture that focuses on sports, beer and Halo at the expense of everything else. So you get a bunch of teenaged guys who never learned to sit down and read a book, whose only interests are "The Big Game of the Week on ESPN", Brewskis, and worshiping the Master Chief. These guys simply aren't going to be very good at school...because they were never taught HOW to be good at it.
We had some of this in the past, but it wasn't as noticeable because we had more well paying factory work. Now we don't.
Though they don't get mentioned much on Slashdot, there ARE programs to encourage men to go into K12 education and nursing.
Since, I'm not a programmer, or wasn't at a University in the late 80's, my first exposure to X was in 2002 on a wacky Red Hat 6 variant on a wacky MIPS variant. In fact it was Slashdot where I first heard about Linux, so I'm a johnny-come-lately.
Since the machine ran RH6, it was a fairly standard distro of that time period, Windowmaker was the default window manager, though others were installed, KDE1, Gnome 1 something or other, FVWM. Default desktop looked something like this:
The VA panels used in TVs are prioritizing cost, color fidelity, brightness and viewing angles. These panels have horrid pixel precision and have huge response time, pixels blend with each other on a regular basis. Using TVs as monitors are painful to the eye.
I work in China and recruit Chinese game developers.
It is just amazing the difficulty to find developers with technical proficiency.
if the latter is true then why do you do the former? Wouldn't it be better to recruit those who DO have the technical proficiency...who are also english proficient?
A large multiple game of Civ takes weeks at best when you're an adult with jobs, a wife, kids and other bits of the real world
That's what Civilization Revolution is for, a streamlined Civilization without the tedious time-sink..a "good parts" version of Civ. (Yes that's a Princess Bride novel reference)
which is why I used the term "open source", that was by intent. They have GPL'd some of their own code. I guess you might say that they have "mixed feelings".
Less freedom than what? An XBox, Playstation or Wii with locked-down hardware, that probably aren't ever going to support alternative software or game stores without jailbreaking? And good luck building a homebrew XBox or Playstation using your choice of components.
That may matter to you, but it doesn't to everyone else. To most people it's the "games" that matter, not whether they can jailbreak their console to run Tuxcart.
It would be nice if that underlying OS was Linux, but it sounds as if Valve has dropped the ball.
The PS4 is available right now, and runs BSD. No, you can't reach the BSD underpinnings and install nethack...but very few people give a damn about that and I'm saying that as someone who DID install nethack on a PS2 and PS3.
It would actually be easier to install a full non-SteamOS Linux distro (Ubuntu or Fedora) and THEN install Steam on top of that.
On Fedora, just install the Fedora People repository and then yum install steam
Valve's just incompetent...no really, they're incompetent. Especially compared to console developers, who work harder and can finish projects without resorting to "Blizzard/Valve" time.
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But, please, keep up with the excuses for your continued discrimination. I loved the ones in the military where women with four DUIs who barely pass the advancement test became the new wave of senior NCOs; just to be fair.
And how many times over the decades did some good ol boy sergeant or officer from Texas/Mississippi/Georgia get his infractions ignored because he was white and a "good ol boy", or the son of some long career officer.
Hell, John McCain himself benefitted from that, he should have been court martialed for the stunts he pulled, notwithstanding kicked out of the academy.
You have it hard today because your parents were held down their whole life? Well, that sucks, but *now* you have the ability to secure a future for your own children. Instead of moping around about shit that happened in the past, do something about the future.
yeah it's easy to say something like this, if your dad worked at Bell labs and you had a Unix terminal at your house in the 80's...but advantages and disadvantages matter. And with enough disadvantages and effects of same you will NEVER catch up.
As an example, lets talk about that discussion of AP CS classes
http://developers.slashdot.org...
I don't recall seeing mention in the discussion of schools that don't have such classes. Such classes are basically an urban magnet school/suburban thing. You take some kid who's had that kind of enrichment and have them compete with kids who may have been lucky to have a keyboarding class. The "game" is rigged.
Hey, my dad was the child of sharecroppers from Kentucky and no matter how bad it was do you know what he told me his parents and grandparents said:
"Better than being a nigger." They may have been po' white trash, but they were still white. And don't tell me that skin color wasn't and still is an advantage in certain situations/areas.
As TFA states the drug is an arthritis drug and AIDS did actually reduce the arthritis symptoms of Arthritis sufferers who acquired AIDS, was told that by my mothers Rheumatologist. Some Arthritis sufferers have immune systems so "revved up" that they're effectively immune to AIDS. drugs like tofacitinib are basically controllable immune suppression Tofacitinib is basically used for those who can't tolerate the first line immune supressor...methotrexate.
Methotrexate is effective and because arthritis sufferers take it in seriously low doses they don't get the some of the side effects cancer patients get. It's now a first line treatment, I think preferred over even hydroxychloroquine. Worked fairly well on my mother, they had her stop taking it, they thought it was perhaps causing her blood counts to go seriously wrong and supress her appetite. Don't even have to inject it, Arthritis patients can just take a syringe, draw the dose of the liquid (most common form) and put it in water.
I wonder if methotrexate would have had the same effect on that fellows alopecia universalis
Don't anti-androgens work like Finasteride, Spironolactone, cyproterone and dutasteride work on that?
http://www.menteach.org/resour...
http://aamn.org/
http://www.oregoncenterfornurs...
Nursing schools started doing some outreach to men in the early 2000's. It's not as much as I'd like to see though and they really don't do a good job of advertising that they do so. I am seeing more male nurses, but it's still rare. I'm in "social services" myself, working with persons with disabilities, which is majority female...but more men there than in nursing or other types of "social services". But I'm GLBT and thusly not the "Typical male"
Strangely EMT's tend to be fairly diverse representative of society as a whole, at least here they are.
So? If it's the interviewer who's sexist/racist, it's the interviewer who should pay.
The problem is, we might not know the interviewer is that way. And even if he is at fault, his interviewees who get hired have financially benefitted from his bigotry.
Say I take out $20 at an ATM, and receive 2 $20's but am only debited for one. It is wrong for me to keep that extra 20, even if I am not at fault and the bank doesn't know I got the extra $20.
Besides, we are all part of the same society, its everyone's problem. Yes I know a bunch of slashdotters don't believe in "societal contracts" and hate it when people like me say "we are all in this together" but those guys are just being selfish jerks. Probably read too much Heinlein while growing up.
There are some grants and scholarships, not big money yet. But it's only recently that big money started going to try to get women in computing/IT. It'll happen, eventually.
If you have reasonable aptitude and work hard, you would need a bizarre string of bad luck not to be successful in America today.People need to stop complaining and demanding handouts, turn off the TV, get up off their behinds, and work for success.
And that, is a lie, we both know it. A lie promulgated by Wall Street and certain political interests to keep people docile. "anyone can be a success if they work hard, lets just forget that some people have a head start and some are wearing weights. If your'e not a success it's a moral failure not a fault of the entire socio-economic system."
There is no need to punish anybody for their skin color over what people of the same skin color did in past centuries.
So making leveling the playing field is punishing those who received unearned advantages WITHOUT working for them?
Focusing on the escapes isn't focusing on the problem.
yes it is, becuase Madison Avenue teaches boys that Beer, sports and Halo is what being a man is about. They're not "escapes" they're what guy-culture has been intentionally turned into to make more money for ESPN, and beer companies.
Yes, I knew guys who might be diagnosed as ADHD, but their real problem is that their parents didn't teach them learning skills. Instead of saying "Hey, read a book now and then" it was "Hey your big brother plays on the Team and you want to be Team Captain too someday, go throw a football around for hours" And then because they spend so much time on not-reading and not-academics, they're not very good at school and get fidgety. All they know is sports. It's not that the enviroment is hostile, it's that they didn't learn how to adjust their behavior to the environment as other people did.
The problem being, more boys have that problem now, thanks to Madison Avenue.
Steinway could start a program to get more kids interested in playing the piano
Steinway would love that, their sales are lower than they were. Part of that is that pianos are less affordable. Strangely, some years back you could find affordable electronic keyboards/synths...with MIDI no less even at places like Wal-Mart and K-mart. They're gone now...and it isn't the internet, they were gone before internet shopping became a thing.
Why do I, who has never made crude jokes to a woman in the workplace, have to pay for the idiocy of other males who were being jerks? Why do I have to get smeared with the same paintbrush? Why do I have to pay for past sins that neither I, nor any member of my family for generations past, ever committed? (E.G. slavery - all of my relatives farmed their own land, thank you).
Okay, lets put it this way. Your family never owned slaves...but didn't have to compete on a level playing field in regards to jobs/land/whatever. So you benefitted indirectly from it, without engaging in it. So yes it's possible to not be a sexist...and benefit from the sexism of others. For example, if you're applying for a job, and the interviewer is sexist/racist. You don't know that, but benefit from that persons behavior.
In other words quoting Aragorn in the LOTR
"it seemed fit that Isildur's heir should labour to repair Isildur's fault"
Where's the big push to get men working as nurses, librarians, grade-school teachers, secretaries, and any number of other female dominated professions?
There IS a big push, especially in nursing and education You however are a Slashdotter and live in a "The only thing that matters is Computers, IT, and Programming" bubble so you never heard of that.
WHY no big recruitment drive to get men into what have been seen as woman's career paths ? ? ?
Actually there IS a big recruitment drive. Nursing programs have been doing it for a couple of decades now. It just doesn't get mentioned on Slashdot, because of course on Slashdot, the only thing that matters is computers.
WHY no bitching and moaning about how society is worse off because of THAT ? ? ?
There has been bitching and moaning, for a few decades now. You've just been living in a "There is only IT and programming" bubble.
Do they have any programs to get men interested in other topics? Nope.
Actually they do, K12 education and nursing in particular. They don't get mentioned here on Slashdot, becuase the only important thing in the world is IT and programming, right?
But somehow they want to drive the boys out of the classroom.
Boys are doing that themselves. Well to be more accurate, it's boy culture. And boy culture is a creation of madison avenue who decided it made more money for corporations by selling beer, Halo, and ESPN to boys than more "cerebral" things.
most of the guys currently dominating c.s. learned to code in their parents' basement when they were 12, because they wanted to.
And what was the gateway? Games! And what were video games considered? A guy thing. What did all those old video game ads show? Dad and son playing with mom and sis watching. So the basement coders existed because at that time, computers were considered a part of the "male nerd" sphere of things and not something for everyone.
"Computers are for everyone, not just nerds" really didn't start taking hold until the late 90's when the internet boom started and gave a reason for people other than nerds and gamers to own computers in the home.
With aviation, the problem is that it's an extremely military oriented thing. How many of the male pilots out there are ex-military, it's a fairly high percentage. And until relatively recently...women were excluded from pilot MOS's. Not only that but as a hobby, it's an expensive one.
Oh that's easy, some of it is male culture that focuses on sports, beer and Halo at the expense of everything else. So you get a bunch of teenaged guys who never learned to sit down and read a book, whose only interests are "The Big Game of the Week on ESPN", Brewskis, and worshiping the Master Chief. These guys simply aren't going to be very good at school...because they were never taught HOW to be good at it.
We had some of this in the past, but it wasn't as noticeable because we had more well paying factory work. Now we don't.
Though they don't get mentioned much on Slashdot, there ARE programs to encourage men to go into K12 education and nursing.
Since, I'm not a programmer, or wasn't at a University in the late 80's, my first exposure to X was in 2002 on a wacky Red Hat 6 variant on a wacky MIPS variant. In fact it was Slashdot where I first heard about Linux, so I'm a johnny-come-lately.
Since the machine ran RH6, it was a fairly standard distro of that time period, Windowmaker was the default window manager, though others were installed, KDE1, Gnome 1 something or other, FVWM. Default desktop looked something like this:
http://ps2linux.no-ip.info/pla...
Yes, my first exposure to X was on a PS2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
The VA panels used in TVs are prioritizing cost, color fidelity, brightness and viewing angles. These panels have horrid pixel precision and have huge response time, pixels blend with each other on a regular basis. Using TVs as monitors are painful to the eye.
Most TV's are TN, not VA.
I work in China and recruit Chinese game developers.
It is just amazing the difficulty to find developers with technical proficiency.
if the latter is true then why do you do the former? Wouldn't it be better to recruit those who DO have the technical proficiency...who are also english proficient?
A large multiple game of Civ takes weeks at best when you're an adult with jobs, a wife, kids and other bits of the real world
That's what Civilization Revolution is for, a streamlined Civilization without the tedious time-sink..a "good parts" version of Civ. (Yes that's a Princess Bride novel reference)
which is why I used the term "open source", that was by intent. They have GPL'd some of their own code. I guess you might say that they have "mixed feelings".
Less freedom than what? An XBox, Playstation or Wii with locked-down hardware, that probably aren't ever going to support alternative software or game stores without jailbreaking? And good luck building a homebrew XBox or Playstation using your choice of components.
That may matter to you, but it doesn't to everyone else. To most people it's the "games" that matter, not whether they can jailbreak their console to run Tuxcart.
It would be nice if that underlying OS was Linux, but it sounds as if Valve has dropped the ball.
The PS4 is available right now, and runs BSD. No, you can't reach the BSD underpinnings and install nethack...but very few people give a damn about that and I'm saying that as someone who DID install nethack on a PS2 and PS3.
It would actually be easier to install a full non-SteamOS Linux distro (Ubuntu or Fedora) and THEN install Steam on top of that.
On Fedora, just install the Fedora People repository and then yum install steam
Valve's just incompetent...no really, they're incompetent. Especially compared to console developers, who work harder and can finish projects without resorting to "Blizzard/Valve" time.