Uh, guy, the hockey season is over. If you're going to judge our town by our hockey team it's amazing that you have any voice on slashdot. Frankly, me and a bunch of other Pittsburghers wish that the Penguins would just get the fuck out of town.
Around here it's hard to tell who's serious and who's not anymore. It's amazing some of the things that get asked around here seriously. Just look up the Ask Slashdot section and you'll see tons of it.
"It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea."
-Robert Anton Wilson
That's a problem that I don't think has been realized by the bulk of the Democratic party but isn't being taken advantage of enough by the Republicans. As the Kennedy Democrats are getting older they're also becoming more disillusioned by the new Democratic party in the same fashion that Neocons have damaged the Republican core membership. People like my parents who are life long Democrats are turning their back on the party since they just don't relate to what it's become.
I've been trying to convince them to vote third party as a thumbing of their nose against dumb and dumber (I'll leave it to you people to fight for who deserves what title) but it seems that they're leaning towards McCain. That could play a large factor in the next election in states like Pennsylvania (where me and my parents are) with an older population that is heavy on the Democrat registration. A lot of these people simply don't bother or don't want to admit a change in philosophy but it's there.
I use to work on a project at this lab called Black Mesa. I heard that there might be some kind of time-space cascade thing during one of our experiments but I didn't get to see it for myself because I had to call off sick that day. If I can look up my co-worker Gordan Freeman he might be able to explain it better.
Oh! Thank God the marines are here to save me from these dreadful creatuadfE$Rf#rq23rf
If you honestly don't think that mouthpieces like Mike Moore and Rosie O'Donell aren't negatives to associate with your cause you're out of your blinking mind. Most Democrat moderates that I know are, at the least, alarmed by this arm of the Democratic party. Most moderates on both sides simply do not want the extremes in their parties.
That's going to decide a lot in the next election. Whichever candidate can come off looking like less of a crackpot is going to get the swing vote. It's that simple. There's a lot of time for either one to fuck it up and I'm hoping one of them does it on a monster level. It's about the only entertainment left in politics anymore.
Perhaps your hindsight is better than their foresight?
Perhaps they got to a point where they could retire and decided that they'd rather spend time on their boat than in an office?
Perhaps they were using it as a stepping stone to do something else they'd rather do? How many people here would rather have a different occupation than whatever they have today but it's just not gainful enough for them to do it?
One things for sure; none of these people truly had any idea how far things would go in the picture. And if I were a ground-floor member of a startup I'd get out as soon as I had an amount to retire comfortably. For as much as people around here view them as the strong-arm of the software industry I'm sure there were many points where things look a bit bleak for MS. They had no guarantees of the success that they have today.
Why doesn't someone tell these people that if the media is coming over to wash your hair during your weekly bath? Seriously, it amazes me how greasy these people look. What greasy the in style in the 70s?
Uh, buy a reel to reel or use one of the hundreds of services that will convert the audio for you?
And considering that the 60s is 40 years ago and the question is for 20 years? In most likeliness you were using a cassette deck at the time if you were into amateur recording. Cassettes and their players are still a dime a dozen today.
The chances of not being able to find a CD/DVD player in 20 years is pretty far fetched. We already have billions of them with trillions of their media floating around that show promise of being usable for decades more to come. What's the problem? And considering that both the BluRay and HD formats were backward compatible? These little wonders will be around for a long long time even if somewhat a novelty item.
"The document, which has been verified, is official US Special Forces doctrine. It directly advocates training paramilitaries, pervasive surveillance, censorship, press control and restrictions on labor unions & political parties. It directly advocates warrantless searches, detainment without charge and the suspension of habeas corpus. It directly advocates bribery, employing terrorists, false flag operations and concealing human rights abuses from journalists. And it directly advocates the extensive use of 'psychological operations' (propaganda) to make these and other 'population & resource control' measures more palatable."
not much unlike any governing body or large media outlet.
In this case he acts like he's already a mechanic. That's the difference.
Don't get me wrong, I don't spit on power users who don't know what kind of RAM is in their laptops. But when they come to me and ask about a possible upgrade and I give them the plain truth and they turn around and go against it to the point of being technically incorrect and roll their eyes when they know they're wrong? That's what burns my ass and that's exactly what he does. He wants to put exactly what he wants into his system but when I tell him that what he's looking at buying won't work in his system or won't accomplish what he thinks it will he sports an attitude. The attitude isn't as much that I'm wrong, it's that he thinks he's more right with no basis and no clear understanding of the first thing he's talking about.
Granted, he is a kid but there are plenty of 16 year olds who know that there are various forms of memory and have the wits about them to find out which one they need for their system. He's not one of them.
But in the end no one is teaching anything that won't be obsolete in 5-10 years.
There, fixed that for you.
On the other points of this discussion:
F/OSS is only interesting to people for two reasons. 1. They like the word "free" 2. They plan on manipulating the software.
Outside of that scope there really is little reason for most people to get excited about it. Evenso, introducing a novice coder to SourceForge is a bit overwhelming and should be avoided.
Another thing I'd like to bring up is that kids today do really seem to be behind the curve simply because the people deciding how advanced kids should be in the measures of education are looking at the wrong skill set to determine where little Suzy and Johnny fall in line. I will never understand why so many Joe and Jane Sixpacks out there are amazed that their kid can text at 15 WPM and think that it means their little brat is somehow tech suave. I have a 16 year old nephew who thinks he's up on the game because he can look up items on NewEgg and decided which one is better. He uses price as the one and only comparison figure. Sadly when I try to pull him inline he gets an attitude about learning what some of the other facts and figures mean because he's been shovel heaps of praise by parents, grandparents and educators for knowing how to create a slideshow of vacation pictures. He doesn't understand anything that's under the hood of the machine but because of the misdirection of his elders he thinks he does. It's gotten to the point that I'm ready to shrug my shoulders and let him spend what little money he earns and make expensive (in his own frame) mistakes. Maybe after going broke buying video cards that gain him a whole 3 FPS more than his current video card will he start to look at the numbers other than the price and decide that it's time to learn the what, wheres and whys of the box sitting under his desk.
I'm sure 30 years ago the same complaints were being filed down at your local garage about kids having cars and not being able to change their own oil.
Pretty much every computerized chess at this point does that. I think it stems from playing Sargon chess on my GameBoy and having it take hours and hours to make moves in an opening. If I'm following a traditional opening why not let the machine just go with the tried and true methods instead of having to reinvent the wheel? So regardless if the opening is traditional or something that is a bit off-beat but historical really doesn't matter.
It's not unlike bots in CS:S... If you play the same bots on the same map they always seem to run the same routes on the first round of a map.
Even their ideas to some degree can afford to be dismissed at this point. Knowing that people once thought that the Earth was the center of things really isn't all too important aside from the fact that it was disproved mathematically and the methods to disprove it. Ultimately even knowing that information would play little part in the understanding of astronomy for someone who is working in the field today since we've progressed well beyond the misunderstanding.
I'd care enough to see that they don't completely disappear but to think that they shouldn't find their way into a collectors hands? Not really. The information outweighs the media or the historical value of the media. If these same works were somehow destroyed in a fire or flood I wouldn't morn their passing.
Really? So you know the history of all the technology and science that you use? Not to say I'm completely ignorant as I've been around the track a few times at this point but when it comes down to it there is no difference in my life as far as how the stuff works when it comes down it's history. For example, it means much much less to me to know who invented USB as to know how USB works. The same with astronomy, it's much more useful for me to know what exists compared to who discovered it.
It's great to know that it was Einstein who floated the idea of relativity but if you don't understand the concept how much can it really mean outside of a trivia game?
Why? Assuming that the texts of these works are available who cares what happens to the originals or early editions? It's almost like owning a mother master of Dark Side of the Moon... is it neat and historical? Absolutly, but I can still get out my CD and listen to it all the same. Nothing of value is lost.
I certainly don't mind the story and I don't wink at the significance of the items but...
Science history just seems a bit overbearing to me. Not that I don't agree that we need to know our past to understand our future or any of the other little axioms about history.
I think it extends from a funk that I felt about matter in my college years. I had an astronomy class that I really was hoping was going to be a bit better than what I expected from an intro course. There is such a ton of knowledge to cover without bothering with the history of astronomy but still we had to go over Brahe and Copernicus and so on. It was a major downer especially since the professor was a professional astronomer with some great insights into modern astronomy that you just don't pick up on the likes of The Science Channel. Unfortunately there wasn't anything beyond the intro to astronomy course offered either.
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Uh, guy, the hockey season is over. If you're going to judge our town by our hockey team it's amazing that you have any voice on slashdot. Frankly, me and a bunch of other Pittsburghers wish that the Penguins would just get the fuck out of town.
Put in an Ask Slashdot. I'm sure you'll get tons of helpful advice.
Around here it's hard to tell who's serious and who's not anymore. It's amazing some of the things that get asked around here seriously. Just look up the Ask Slashdot section and you'll see tons of it.
Hans Reiser is the developer of an open source file system but is currently jailed for murder.
"It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea."
-Robert Anton Wilson
That's a problem that I don't think has been realized by the bulk of the Democratic party but isn't being taken advantage of enough by the Republicans. As the Kennedy Democrats are getting older they're also becoming more disillusioned by the new Democratic party in the same fashion that Neocons have damaged the Republican core membership. People like my parents who are life long Democrats are turning their back on the party since they just don't relate to what it's become.
I've been trying to convince them to vote third party as a thumbing of their nose against dumb and dumber (I'll leave it to you people to fight for who deserves what title) but it seems that they're leaning towards McCain. That could play a large factor in the next election in states like Pennsylvania (where me and my parents are) with an older population that is heavy on the Democrat registration. A lot of these people simply don't bother or don't want to admit a change in philosophy but it's there.
I use to work on a project at this lab called Black Mesa. I heard that there might be some kind of time-space cascade thing during one of our experiments but I didn't get to see it for myself because I had to call off sick that day. If I can look up my co-worker Gordan Freeman he might be able to explain it better.
Oh! Thank God the marines are here to save me from these dreadful creatuadfE$Rf#rq23rf
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If you honestly don't think that mouthpieces like Mike Moore and Rosie O'Donell aren't negatives to associate with your cause you're out of your blinking mind. Most Democrat moderates that I know are, at the least, alarmed by this arm of the Democratic party. Most moderates on both sides simply do not want the extremes in their parties.
That's going to decide a lot in the next election. Whichever candidate can come off looking like less of a crackpot is going to get the swing vote. It's that simple. There's a lot of time for either one to fuck it up and I'm hoping one of them does it on a monster level. It's about the only entertainment left in politics anymore.
Perhaps your hindsight is better than their foresight?
Perhaps they got to a point where they could retire and decided that they'd rather spend time on their boat than in an office?
Perhaps they were using it as a stepping stone to do something else they'd rather do? How many people here would rather have a different occupation than whatever they have today but it's just not gainful enough for them to do it?
One things for sure; none of these people truly had any idea how far things would go in the picture. And if I were a ground-floor member of a startup I'd get out as soon as I had an amount to retire comfortably. For as much as people around here view them as the strong-arm of the software industry I'm sure there were many points where things look a bit bleak for MS. They had no guarantees of the success that they have today.
Why doesn't someone tell these people that if the media is coming over to wash your hair during your weekly bath? Seriously, it amazes me how greasy these people look. What greasy the in style in the 70s?
Uh, buy a reel to reel or use one of the hundreds of services that will convert the audio for you?
And considering that the 60s is 40 years ago and the question is for 20 years? In most likeliness you were using a cassette deck at the time if you were into amateur recording. Cassettes and their players are still a dime a dozen today.
The chances of not being able to find a CD/DVD player in 20 years is pretty far fetched. We already have billions of them with trillions of their media floating around that show promise of being usable for decades more to come. What's the problem? And considering that both the BluRay and HD formats were backward compatible? These little wonders will be around for a long long time even if somewhat a novelty item.
"The document, which has been verified, is official US Special Forces doctrine. It directly advocates training paramilitaries, pervasive surveillance, censorship, press control and restrictions on labor unions & political parties. It directly advocates warrantless searches, detainment without charge and the suspension of habeas corpus. It directly advocates bribery, employing terrorists, false flag operations and concealing human rights abuses from journalists. And it directly advocates the extensive use of 'psychological operations' (propaganda) to make these and other 'population & resource control' measures more palatable."
not much unlike any governing body or large media outlet.
not every driver wants to become a mechanic
In this case he acts like he's already a mechanic. That's the difference.
Don't get me wrong, I don't spit on power users who don't know what kind of RAM is in their laptops. But when they come to me and ask about a possible upgrade and I give them the plain truth and they turn around and go against it to the point of being technically incorrect and roll their eyes when they know they're wrong? That's what burns my ass and that's exactly what he does. He wants to put exactly what he wants into his system but when I tell him that what he's looking at buying won't work in his system or won't accomplish what he thinks it will he sports an attitude. The attitude isn't as much that I'm wrong, it's that he thinks he's more right with no basis and no clear understanding of the first thing he's talking about.
Granted, he is a kid but there are plenty of 16 year olds who know that there are various forms of memory and have the wits about them to find out which one they need for their system. He's not one of them.
Mathematics is a common language between the sciences. I don't see any need to debate it from there.
But in the end no one is teaching anything that won't be obsolete in 5-10 years.
There, fixed that for you.
On the other points of this discussion:
F/OSS is only interesting to people for two reasons. 1. They like the word "free" 2. They plan on manipulating the software.
Outside of that scope there really is little reason for most people to get excited about it. Evenso, introducing a novice coder to SourceForge is a bit overwhelming and should be avoided.
Another thing I'd like to bring up is that kids today do really seem to be behind the curve simply because the people deciding how advanced kids should be in the measures of education are looking at the wrong skill set to determine where little Suzy and Johnny fall in line. I will never understand why so many Joe and Jane Sixpacks out there are amazed that their kid can text at 15 WPM and think that it means their little brat is somehow tech suave. I have a 16 year old nephew who thinks he's up on the game because he can look up items on NewEgg and decided which one is better. He uses price as the one and only comparison figure. Sadly when I try to pull him inline he gets an attitude about learning what some of the other facts and figures mean because he's been shovel heaps of praise by parents, grandparents and educators for knowing how to create a slideshow of vacation pictures. He doesn't understand anything that's under the hood of the machine but because of the misdirection of his elders he thinks he does. It's gotten to the point that I'm ready to shrug my shoulders and let him spend what little money he earns and make expensive (in his own frame) mistakes. Maybe after going broke buying video cards that gain him a whole 3 FPS more than his current video card will he start to look at the numbers other than the price and decide that it's time to learn the what, wheres and whys of the box sitting under his desk.
I'm sure 30 years ago the same complaints were being filed down at your local garage about kids having cars and not being able to change their own oil.
But I can still write my name in the snow better than any woman.
That's satire, not skepticism.
Pretty much every computerized chess at this point does that. I think it stems from playing Sargon chess on my GameBoy and having it take hours and hours to make moves in an opening. If I'm following a traditional opening why not let the machine just go with the tried and true methods instead of having to reinvent the wheel? So regardless if the opening is traditional or something that is a bit off-beat but historical really doesn't matter.
It's not unlike bots in CS:S... If you play the same bots on the same map they always seem to run the same routes on the first round of a map.
The fact that you mention a wife and child narrows it down to about 6 users without him having to complain.
Did Susan Sarandon really do that?
Even their ideas to some degree can afford to be dismissed at this point. Knowing that people once thought that the Earth was the center of things really isn't all too important aside from the fact that it was disproved mathematically and the methods to disprove it. Ultimately even knowing that information would play little part in the understanding of astronomy for someone who is working in the field today since we've progressed well beyond the misunderstanding.
I'd care enough to see that they don't completely disappear but to think that they shouldn't find their way into a collectors hands? Not really. The information outweighs the media or the historical value of the media. If these same works were somehow destroyed in a fire or flood I wouldn't morn their passing.
Really? So you know the history of all the technology and science that you use? Not to say I'm completely ignorant as I've been around the track a few times at this point but when it comes down to it there is no difference in my life as far as how the stuff works when it comes down it's history. For example, it means much much less to me to know who invented USB as to know how USB works. The same with astronomy, it's much more useful for me to know what exists compared to who discovered it.
It's great to know that it was Einstein who floated the idea of relativity but if you don't understand the concept how much can it really mean outside of a trivia game?
Why? Assuming that the texts of these works are available who cares what happens to the originals or early editions? It's almost like owning a mother master of Dark Side of the Moon... is it neat and historical? Absolutly, but I can still get out my CD and listen to it all the same. Nothing of value is lost.
I certainly don't mind the story and I don't wink at the significance of the items but...
Science history just seems a bit overbearing to me. Not that I don't agree that we need to know our past to understand our future or any of the other little axioms about history.
I think it extends from a funk that I felt about matter in my college years. I had an astronomy class that I really was hoping was going to be a bit better than what I expected from an intro course. There is such a ton of knowledge to cover without bothering with the history of astronomy but still we had to go over Brahe and Copernicus and so on. It was a major downer especially since the professor was a professional astronomer with some great insights into modern astronomy that you just don't pick up on the likes of The Science Channel. Unfortunately there wasn't anything beyond the intro to astronomy course offered either.
I don't know about you but most of the SUVs I've ever seen have carried little more than the drivers fattened ass and a few sacks of groceries.