Promising beta: performance and very few bugs
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Ubuntu 8.04 Beta Released
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· Score: 2, Informative
I am using the Ubuntu beta since the early Alpha versions and I should admit that everything is going into place very well. Actually using it, you'd never say it's a beta given how polished and smooth the user experience is. A little bloating on the other hand is pervading the desktop setup and maybe too many services are active by default. With 512mb RAM you will need to disable something to have a better experience but compared to some competing OS the situation is really good. Comparing the Ubuntu 8.04 beta to my other Debian Lenny box with comparable hardware (laptops with 1gb ram and centrino 1.8GHz) Ubuntu feels much faster doing everything. I don't know if it's the kernel 2.6.24 with CFS or some optimization of the libc or something else but the difference is night and day. Debian should care a bit more about performance if it wants to stay the UNIVERSAL OS...
So, up to now: really good and two thumbs up for this "beta" (just a bit different from the stability of KDE 4 beta!....)
This filter will only apply to plain video information, but what about encrypted video files? It's enough to zip the archive with a strong password and nobody will be able to understand what's inside. If they are going to deploy this technology worldwide, the p2p will evolve into an encrypted only network with some password database somewhere.
First, this is not a law, but an already discarded law proposal. Second, as already cited elsewhere among the replies, an interview with the law proponent has already clarified the situation saying that it does not apply to blogs or personal sites but just to internet newspapers.
Actually there is no Mussolini in Italy at the moment. He's just waiting in the right opposition side...
I can confirm that my Thinkpad Z60m consumes just 15-16W on idle when on battery. I find the phoronix measuring method really stupid with no error bars and what's the point of measuring just one laptop? It's useless for me.
Maybe they measured the power consumption when trackerd was running!
The real story is that with a tickless kernel you have the potential using powertop to really kill the power needs and my Thinkpad X31 goes as low as 7.0 watts when idling so that I have 6 hours on Gutsy and I had four with an optimized Debian Etch (~9W).
I took the time to go on the website to check the real article and I discovered that the same guy who is really unhappy with so many distros is actually one which is not even able to install Ubuntu 7.04 on a HP laptop and says in the title: Ubuntu is really difficult to get going on a mobile computer... He wasn't even able to partition his drive on his desktop.
I don't see your point either. I am doing a postdoc right now and they are paying me because they suppose I will do something good in this time. Even if I do not produce incredible results I will get paid. Wolfram instead, pays you only if you succeed in something that is very difficult (if he has not solved it by himself)
No my dear, this is mass extortion: he gets all the advantages and no drawbacks:
- he seems to be generous! - he sells more copies of his horrid science fiction book; - he gets dozens of smart guys working on it; - he pays only if someone succeeds; - he just spends 25.000$ and also gets a lot of publicity.
I am really sick of this guy's way of doing "science". He came out of the scientific community after publishing some witty papers and entered in his own ivory tower with a lot of money coming from that awful piece of software and now that he's not able to overcome this problem shouts to everybody: "Hey! I'll give you 25k $ if you solve this!"
If I were really bright on that subject and able to solve it I would just publish on a regular paper and send him an email saying: "Hey Mr Wolfram, by the way I solved your problem, now use your dirty 25.000$ to buy another bright postdoc's best ideas and say that they are yours!"
Nice to see tips for the newbies to help them set up the system in the way they like best, but I feel that the system just after installation is already really usable and reliable. If you are not an expert and you start to turn on Beryl and to play with Synaptic... I believe that a lot of people will be going back to windows because their system has become unusable.
Once you're ready to take off, you will discover by yourself these great features.
Hey guys, I can only read pro-americam posts here! Why? It's incredible that somebody says: "The Internet was built by US so we should keep it under our "democratic" control!"
It's so naive!
The Internet is like a collage, built of many patches and I belive that there should be a global coordination.
I have listened to every mp3 and watched a pair of videos... but it's really obvious that what you get is a random inability of the error correcting code of the sound/image interpreter. It's all because of the pseudorandom distribution af data on the surface for error correction purposes!
If the guy tried something on a vinyl it should be much more interesting because the sound is not digitally treated and is perfectly sequential...
Yes... but the result of course would be a low frequency filter and a destruction of the pickup!!!
Really non interesting research. IMHO.
I'd like to try letting a cellular automata on a WAV file and to see what I can get from this. THIS would be science.
...that Morse code is the kind of communication that is simpler to establish if you are in any extreme situation like a war?...that Morse code needs the lowest signal/noise ratio among every digital communications?...that if somebody decides to shut off the Net you can always talk with a guy near to you or maybe in the other emisphere?...and finally......that, like somebody said before me, it is really fun to talk via CW in the middle of the night, with maybe 0.5W of power, with someone living in some strange unknown island in the ocean?
When you are involved in research, education, massive parallel computing, you have no choice:
Linux.
When you want to play games or if you're not comfortable typing at the keyboard other than for writing an email... you need windows.
If linux can now do well in the middle territory of wordprocessing and browsing... OK there is a possibility for people to choose!
So there are 3 classes of users that make the market sharing. And these 3 sets are often overlapping.
OSX can do maybe both (not always) but it isn't free...
no extinction risks, only adaptation
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Please use the apparently official page:
http://getchrome.eu/download.php
Many ISO versions available...
I am using the Ubuntu beta since the early Alpha versions and I should admit that everything is going into place very well. Actually using it, you'd never say it's a beta given how polished and smooth the user experience is. A little bloating on the other hand is pervading the desktop setup and maybe too many services are active by default. With 512mb RAM you will need to disable something to have a better experience but compared to some competing OS the situation is really good.
Comparing the Ubuntu 8.04 beta to my other Debian Lenny box with comparable hardware (laptops with 1gb ram and centrino 1.8GHz) Ubuntu feels much faster doing everything. I don't know if it's the kernel 2.6.24 with CFS or some optimization of the libc or something else but the difference is night and day. Debian should care a bit more about performance if it wants to stay the UNIVERSAL OS...
So, up to now: really good and two thumbs up for this "beta" (just a bit different from the stability of KDE 4 beta!....)
Happy dowloading!
marco
This filter will only apply to plain video information,
but what about encrypted video files? It's enough to
zip the archive with a strong password and nobody will
be able to understand what's inside. If they are going
to deploy this technology worldwide, the p2p will evolve
into an encrypted only network with some password database
somewhere.
It's an escalation and drives nowhere.
First, this is not a law, but an already discarded law proposal.
Second, as already cited elsewhere among the replies, an interview with the law proponent
has already clarified the situation saying that it does not apply to blogs or personal sites
but just to internet newspapers.
Actually there is no Mussolini in Italy at the moment.
He's just waiting in the right opposition side...
I can confirm that my Thinkpad Z60m consumes just 15-16W on idle when on battery.
I find the phoronix measuring method really stupid with no error bars
and what's the point of measuring just one laptop? It's useless for me.
Maybe they measured the power consumption when trackerd was running!
The real story is that with a tickless kernel you have the potential
using powertop to really kill the power needs and my Thinkpad X31 goes
as low as 7.0 watts when idling so that I have 6 hours on Gutsy and I had
four with an optimized Debian Etch (~9W).
I took the time to go on the website to check the real article and I discovered
that the same guy who is really unhappy with so many distros is actually one
which is not even able to install Ubuntu 7.04 on a HP laptop and says in the title:
Ubuntu is really difficult to get going on a mobile computer...
He wasn't even able to partition his drive on his desktop.
He should be really an idiot.
wow it is with great pleasure and surprise that I welcome this news...
maybe in a few centuries the US will come out of stone age!
Of course this utility is very useful for developers and for Linux distributors.
For the average user it is a nightmare.
I don't see your point either. I am doing a postdoc right now and they
are paying me because they suppose I will do something good in this time.
Even if I do not produce incredible results I will get paid.
Wolfram instead, pays you only if you succeed in something that is very difficult
(if he has not solved it by himself)
No my dear, this is mass extortion: he gets all the advantages and no drawbacks:
- he seems to be generous!
- he sells more copies of his horrid science fiction book;
- he gets dozens of smart guys working on it;
- he pays only if someone succeeds;
- he just spends 25.000$ and also gets a lot of publicity.
I have to admit, he's really smart. Making money.
I am really sick of this guy's way of doing "science".
He came out of the scientific community after publishing some
witty papers and entered in his own ivory tower with a lot of
money coming from that awful piece of software and now that
he's not able to overcome this problem shouts to everybody:
"Hey! I'll give you 25k $ if you solve this!"
If I were really bright on that subject and able to solve it
I would just publish on a regular paper and send him an email
saying: "Hey Mr Wolfram, by the way I solved your problem, now use
your dirty 25.000$ to buy another bright postdoc's best ideas and
say that they are yours!"
Descend on planet Earth Mr Wolfram.
Nice to see tips for the newbies to help them set up the system in the way they like best,
but I feel that the system just after installation is already really usable and reliable.
If you are not an expert and you start to turn on Beryl and to play with Synaptic...
I believe that a lot of people will be going back to windows because their system has become
unusable.
Once you're ready to take off, you will discover by yourself these great features.
Just my idea.
marco
Hey guys, I can only read pro-americam posts here! Why?
It's incredible that somebody says: "The Internet was built by US
so we should keep it under our "democratic" control!"
It's so naive!
The Internet is like a collage, built of many patches and I belive
that there should be a global coordination.
I have listened to every mp3 and watched a pair of videos... but it's really obvious that what you get is a random inability of the error correcting code of the sound/image interpreter. It's all because of the pseudorandom distribution af data on the surface for error correction purposes!
If the guy tried something on a vinyl it should be much more interesting because the sound is not digitally treated and is perfectly sequential...
Yes... but the result of course would be a low frequency filter and a destruction of the pickup!!!
Really non interesting research. IMHO.
I'd like to try letting a cellular automata on a WAV file and to see what I can get from this. THIS would be science.
...that Morse code is the kind of communication that is simpler to establish if you are in any extreme situation like a war? ...that Morse code needs the lowest signal/noise ratio among every digital communications? ...that if somebody decides to shut off the Net you can always talk with a guy near to you or maybe in the other emisphere? ...and finally... ...that, like somebody said before me, it is really fun to talk via CW in the middle of the night, with maybe 0.5W of power, with someone living in some strange unknown island in the ocean?
Oh! What a great idea!
The more you steal the less you are punished.
marco
No war in my name.
If somebody tries to criticize Debian in the usability arena, he receives a lot of stupid answers like:
* If you cannot use vi why the hell are you using linux?
* Text interfaces are the best!
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Now we have a project going toward a good installer and one to increase usability...
I'd like to know what the pure debianists think about it!
bye
When you are involved in research, education, massive parallel computing, you have no choice: Linux. When you want to play games or if you're not comfortable typing at the keyboard other than for writing an email... you need windows. If linux can now do well in the middle territory of wordprocessing and browsing... OK there is a possibility for people to choose! So there are 3 classes of users that make the market sharing. And these 3 sets are often overlapping. OSX can do maybe both (not always) but it isn't free... no extinction risks, only adaptation