Site just one instance for me where the US govt. slaughtered a large number of US citizens for political reasons. the USSR has killed millions throughout its communist history, and I doubt China's record is any better.
Yes. Most Communists govts. are actually scoialist govts. Communism is too moronic of a concept to even be possible to implement. You expect people to voluntarily place the welfare of strangers over those of their friends and family?
No. They're making a case that the whole management structure of Linux is flawed, since the project manager can't even determine that the work people under him submit is their own work.
Funny how Linus shows complete disregard for patents and IBM steals code from SCO, and somehow SCO is the villian. I think it's pretty clear who's in the wrong here. If MS was suing MS over the same issues, they'd be heroes here. Stop being such biased hypocrites and stop making judgements based on who's being accused, rather than the issues at stake.
"Please enlighten us as to how allowing a third party to distribute a cheap knockoff of a design that Apple spent years creating will bolster Apple's image of quality and help them increase revenue."
IBM makes more money than Apple selling PC hardware. They allowed Dell, Compaq etc. to "distribute a cheap knockoff" of their design.
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"Mac OS X costs more to make than Apple charges for it."
FreeBSD is free. All they did was put a GUI on top. BFD. Apple is gouging their small base of customers.
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You've missed the point. This small business will not be able to buy any Apple compatible hardware, if Apple gets it's way, and will go out of business.
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And MS isn't stopping you from not using Windows. Yes MS pays a billion dollars in fines, while Apple is just doing business. MS should get the same treatment Apples does by the govt.
Govts. shouldn't pass laws mandating which software should be used. Let govt. depts. decide for themselves which software they want to use. Their arguement is that simple. Yet there are a number of pro open source people who "just don't get it".
Why is it insane for SCO to protect their copyrighted work, but reasonable for GPLed code to enforce copyleft? I don't understand your logic. If I said I made some changes to linux and was selling it without releasing the source, people here would be up in arms. If SCO claims they were wronged in a similar manner, the lawsuit is frivolous. Slashdot logic makes no sense to me.
"They provide a pretty useful service to the public: demonstrating that the concept of intellectual property leads to poor results if applied in the manner shown by SCO. Intellectual property is a nice idea if used e.g. by an artist to protect her works from unauthorized altering, or if it helps an inventor to make a living. It is not if separated from the actual, individual creators of something; it is not if used to revoke transactions after the fact; it is not if applied to prevent people from tinkering with things they did buy. Now we have a showcase. Thank you, SCO! "
Translation: I like Linux. Therefore SCO must be wrong in accusing Linux of stealing their IP. If SCO were suing MS, you'd be applauding them. How this factually-void crap gets modded up, I'll never know.
Roads are public. If congress passes a law that says all cars must have a black box to help accident investigations, and that the black box info must be turned over to law enforcement after an accident, this does not violate your constitutional right to privacy. If you want privacy, you can build your own roads on your own land and not have to worry about govt. interference.
No one pointed a gun to your head and forced you to buy cds. But now you've used the govt. to point guns at the the record industry and force them to pay you money. Of course now your whining that you didn't get a fair amount because you bought more cds than others. Well, welcome to the world of socialism, where justice is arbitrary, depending on the whims of those holding the guns, and freedom is sacrificed for the good of the masses.
You see this same sort of thing every time someone wants to build a dam to produce hydroelectric power. All the environmentalists who complain about burning fossil fuels, start complaining about ruining the environment. In fact, there are a number of environmentalists who won't be happy until the human race is extinct.
I don't think free-market == anti-union. In a free society, if workers for a company want to organize and speak with one voice, hoping the hassle of firing and then hiring and training new workers for a company is worse than giving in to the union demands, they should have a right to do so.
Linux is a derivative of Unix. OpenOffice is a derivative of MS Office. FreeVO is a derivative of TiVo, The GIMP is a derivative of Photoshop. Your worship of OSS is getting old. OSS doesn't innovate, but merely copies.
This coment makes no sense. If the rich are so powerful in the US, why do they pay about 50% of their wealth in various taxes, while the average person pays a far lower percent? Believe it or not, the average person if the most powerful person in the US. That's who politicians are interested in. The average person doesn't care whether the govt. uses OSS or closed source. Given that, the govt. has been using closed source solutions before the open source "knock offs" were even available. There's no incentive to switch.
If SCO was suing MS for theft of code you'd think they were heroes. I'm sick of people modding up people with no principles as insightful. It's not insightful to claim SCO suit is baseless for the simple reason that you like Linux. And it's not insightful to present half truths as fact. SCO isn't claiming there are only 80 lines that were copied. They merely showed 80 lines as an example to one person signing an NDA. And it's not insightful to claim SCO suit is baseless for the simple reason that you like Linux. SCO has no interest in helping Linux after being wronged by the Linux community, so your "show me the code" comment doesn't prove anything either.
It's not a matter of understanding what was written. It's a matter of BELIEVING what was written. What you quoted is what the REPORTER wrote. The parent pointed out that what the REPORTER wrote doesn't make sense given what his SOURCE told him and was quoted on.
"If true, the repurcussions could be, erm, quite interesting."
What happens. SCO removes offending code from UnixWare. People using UnixWare can no longer run Linux code. End of story. You can't sue SCO for damages because it would be difficult to prove anyone was harmed financially by UnixWare having this feature, especially when Linux source is free to use.
"I'm not sure MS does _anything_ that _isn't_ anti-competitive.:)"
The term anti-competitive in the context of monopoly legislation is so abused that the only way to stop being anti-competitve is to stop being competitive.
Good Point. However, DRM is a more general form of PGP. Saying you shouldn't be allowed to control what the end user does with data you send him shows a lack of respect for intellectual property. Legally, I can send someone data under NDA. Why shouldn't I have a tool to help make sure the NDA isn't broken? Why limit encryption technology in such a manner? He opened pandora's box. If he really believes in freedom, he shouldn't be trying to tell people how they can use encryption technology. That's fundamentally limiting someone's freedom.
Yes. These type of cases will deter companies from using modified versions of Linux if they don't want to release the source to their competitors. There's a reason why Apple chose BSD over Linux.
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Site just one instance for me where the US govt. slaughtered a large number of US citizens for political reasons. the USSR has killed millions throughout its communist history, and I doubt China's record is any better.
Yes. Most Communists govts. are actually scoialist govts. Communism is too moronic of a concept to even be possible to implement. You expect people to voluntarily place the welfare of strangers over those of their friends and family?
No. They're making a case that the whole management structure of Linux is flawed, since the project manager can't even determine that the work people under him submit is their own work.
Funny how Linus shows complete disregard for patents and IBM steals code from SCO, and somehow SCO is the villian. I think it's pretty clear who's in the wrong here. If MS was suing MS over the same issues, they'd be heroes here. Stop being such biased hypocrites and stop making judgements based on who's being accused, rather than the issues at stake.
"Please enlighten us as to how allowing a third party to distribute a cheap knockoff of a design that Apple spent years creating will bolster Apple's image of quality and help them increase revenue."
IBM makes more money than Apple selling PC hardware. They allowed Dell, Compaq etc. to "distribute a cheap knockoff" of their design.
"Mac OS X costs more to make than Apple charges for it."
FreeBSD is free. All they did was put a GUI on top. BFD. Apple is gouging their small base of customers.
You've missed the point. This small business will not be able to buy any Apple compatible hardware, if Apple gets it's way, and will go out of business.
And MS isn't stopping you from not using Windows. Yes MS pays a billion dollars in fines, while Apple is just doing business. MS should get the same treatment Apples does by the govt.
Govts. shouldn't pass laws mandating which software should be used. Let govt. depts. decide for themselves which software they want to use. Their arguement is that simple. Yet there are a number of pro open source people who "just don't get it".
Why is it insane for SCO to protect their copyrighted work, but reasonable for GPLed code to enforce copyleft? I don't understand your logic. If I said I made some changes to linux and was selling it without releasing the source, people here would be up in arms. If SCO claims they were wronged in a similar manner, the lawsuit is frivolous. Slashdot logic makes no sense to me.
Apparently, you don't care about the evidence. You've already tried IBM and decided the lawsuit is frivolous, based on your comments.
"They provide a pretty useful service to the public: demonstrating that the concept of intellectual property leads to poor results if applied in the manner shown by SCO. Intellectual property is a nice idea if used e.g. by an artist to protect her works from unauthorized altering, or if it helps an inventor to make a living. It is not if separated from the actual, individual creators of something; it is not if used to revoke transactions after the fact; it is not if applied to prevent people from tinkering with things they did buy. Now we have a showcase. Thank you, SCO! "
Translation: I like Linux. Therefore SCO must be wrong in accusing Linux of stealing their IP. If SCO were suing MS, you'd be applauding them. How this factually-void crap gets modded up, I'll never know.
Roads are public. If congress passes a law that says all cars must have a black box to help accident investigations, and that the black box info must be turned over to law enforcement after an accident, this does not violate your constitutional right to privacy. If you want privacy, you can build your own roads on your own land and not have to worry about govt. interference.
No one pointed a gun to your head and forced you to buy cds. But now you've used the govt. to point guns at the the record industry and force them to pay you money. Of course now your whining that you didn't get a fair amount because you bought more cds than others. Well, welcome to the world of socialism, where justice is arbitrary, depending on the whims of those holding the guns, and freedom is sacrificed for the good of the masses.
You see this same sort of thing every time someone wants to build a dam to produce hydroelectric power. All the environmentalists who complain about burning fossil fuels, start complaining about ruining the environment. In fact, there are a number of environmentalists who won't be happy until the human race is extinct.
I don't think free-market == anti-union. In a free society, if workers for a company want to organize and speak with one voice, hoping the hassle of firing and then hiring and training new workers for a company is worse than giving in to the union demands, they should have a right to do so.
"Its products are derivative"
Linux is a derivative of Unix. OpenOffice is a derivative of MS Office. FreeVO is a derivative of TiVo, The GIMP is a derivative of Photoshop. Your worship of OSS is getting old. OSS doesn't innovate, but merely copies.
This coment makes no sense. If the rich are so powerful in the US, why do they pay about 50% of their wealth in various taxes, while the average person pays a far lower percent? Believe it or not, the average person if the most powerful person in the US. That's who politicians are interested in. The average person doesn't care whether the govt. uses OSS or closed source. Given that, the govt. has been using closed source solutions before the open source "knock offs" were even available. There's no incentive to switch.
If SCO was suing MS for theft of code you'd think they were heroes. I'm sick of people modding up people with no principles as insightful. It's not insightful to claim SCO suit is baseless for the simple reason that you like Linux. And it's not insightful to present half truths as fact. SCO isn't claiming there are only 80 lines that were copied. They merely showed 80 lines as an example to one person signing an NDA. And it's not insightful to claim SCO suit is baseless for the simple reason that you like Linux. SCO has no interest in helping Linux after being wronged by the Linux community, so your "show me the code" comment doesn't prove anything either.
It's not a matter of understanding what was written. It's a matter of BELIEVING what was written. What you quoted is what the REPORTER wrote. The parent pointed out that what the REPORTER wrote doesn't make sense given what his SOURCE told him and was quoted on.
Right on. It looks like the "reporter" took the quotes out of context and spun the story so hard, he turned it around 180 deg. :-)
"If true, the repurcussions could be, erm, quite interesting."
What happens. SCO removes offending code from UnixWare. People using UnixWare can no longer run Linux code. End of story. You can't sue SCO for damages because it would be difficult to prove anyone was harmed financially by UnixWare having this feature, especially when Linux source is free to use.
"I'm not sure MS does _anything_ that _isn't_ anti-competitive. :)"
The term anti-competitive in the context of monopoly legislation is so abused that the only way to stop being anti-competitve is to stop being competitive.
Good Point. However, DRM is a more general form of PGP. Saying you shouldn't be allowed to control what the end user does with data you send him shows a lack of respect for intellectual property. Legally, I can send someone data under NDA. Why shouldn't I have a tool to help make sure the NDA isn't broken? Why limit encryption technology in such a manner? He opened pandora's box. If he really believes in freedom, he shouldn't be trying to tell people how they can use encryption technology. That's fundamentally limiting someone's freedom.
Yes. These type of cases will deter companies from using modified versions of Linux if they don't want to release the source to their competitors. There's a reason why Apple chose BSD over Linux.