Umm if you're looking at providing myth based Home Theatre Systems as a business whats to stop you either a) Sourcing the parts and buying in bulk, or b) Sourcing ready made PC's from a parts wholesaler in say Taiwan?
Parody and satire is the best way to pillory your opposition. Make it funny and people will listen to what you say, try and get them to listen to an hour long discourse on the evils of mining and you've got glazed eyes and no chance of getting through.
Regarding a Debian only GPLv3, whoever said this is a moron. It would be more expensive than maintaining a GPLv2 only SuSe distro and there is no need to make a GPLv3 only distro since GPLv3 is compatible with GPLv2.
Umm its actually my understanding that GPLv3 in its current unfinished form, is not compatible with GPLv2. The added restrictions sort of put the kybosh on that.
The other thing to consider is a massive community fork. Say Novell wants to stick with GPLv2, why would they not just fork those projects that decide to go with the finalised GPLv3? They wouldn't be the only people who have an issue with the new license.
Just a quick note to let everyone one know that I managed to grab a short interview with Greg about this for tonights (9:30pm AEDST (UTC+1100) episode of Open Source On The Air.
I'll reserver my cheers for the person who figures out how to pay for the content (which most people have been conditioned to expect for free) without advertising of some sort.
So what you're saying is that in some other universe Jackson screwed the pooch on the films and they bombed so in this universe he doesn't deserve to ask for an independant audit of the books?
Fine, you go and make the twenty-six three hour movies it would take to truly bring to life the Tolkien vision then;)
People are making the mistake of comparing the books and films in a literal sense. The movies were never going to be able to do full justice to the vision, however I believe they are the only ones so far that have come within a mile of doing that.
It's called redundancy. Say we manage to completely hose this "stellar garden of eden"? what happens to the species? Space exploration and colonisation in my view is about insurance against our own stupidity.
Okay so explain to me how you get joe six pack to the moon without sending people up to prepare the way first?
A moon base or moon hotel is not going to suddenly spring up just because people think it should, and any construction is going to need real on the ground supervision.
While we're at it lets stop leaving the house, we've got computers and robots to go shopping for us now, hell we could probably live off the internet. Oh and don't try and get out of bed, it can be bloody dangerous!
Internet access through a wireless network that is probably connected to a ADSL modem has fixed costs.
Depends on where you live. For instance in Australia we have download limits. Some operators shape (reduce speed to near dialup) while others charge per MB/GB over the limit. So either way there is added cost for going over your limit.
Well if they're not distributing then thats perfectly fine. However if they are and not distributing the source then they have issues, D-Link probably being the latest example of a company trying to get around the GPL and losing.
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I mean, you can hate the jews or not but your hatred shouldn't give you the right to kill them and take away their land does it?
Could we please put this furphy to bed NOW?
Just because you disagree with Israeli policy on Palestine and its methods DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ANTI-SEMITE. Sheesh.
Oh and I would like to point out that Israel has in fact been engaging in a policy of land encroachment for many years. The so called "Settlements" on palestinian land cannot be called anything but a land grab.
Just to get the message across for those who weren't listening properly the first time, YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH ISRAEL WITHOUT BEING AN ANTI-SEMITE.
Umm actually no, my rebuttal would be the large chunks of windows 2000 source code that was ripped out of the internal MS network by a hacker. Would that be considered "having their arses handed to them"?
Oooohkay, there seems to be a complete lack of understanding about Australian TV right there, so let's correct a few things.
The government is just trying to stop the TV stations from exploiting loopholes in the legislation.
What the government is trying to do is lock down control on ALL media outlets, whether its the big Three Networks(Commercial) or your amatuer podcasters. The Big Brother incident (which by the way was streamed at 4:30 in the morning to a pay for view audience) was a convinient excuse. There is also a large part of playing up to the "Won't someone think of the children nuts".
In this case, Capital 10 stepped over the line and was enabling children to view filthy content via the Internet.
Seriously, the event happened at 4:30 in the morning, when all good kiddies should be in bed instead of on daddies computer watching big brother. There is also an expectation that the parents should have the brains to restrict what their children are watching but thats a whole other argument. I also think you've misjudged the prime market for big brother, it's not 12-14 year olds, its the oh so shallow 18-25 year olds with mobile phones.
think the government is doing the right thing here. Personally I wish they'd say "we're backdating this new legislation and slapping you with a big fine for being jerks".
This is wrong on so many counts. First off, retrospective legislation is hugely dangerous and if they thought they could get away with it for this then away we go with some really nast shit. Secondly, do we really want the same level of government regulation for online media as we've had for the traditional media? I wonder if you remember the debacle over the digital licenses, or maybe you wonder about the reason we have only three networks instead of the many we could have.
On a final note I'd seriously get off the "Won't someone think of the children" bandwagon. It's been done to death for everything from home schooling, through to lunch orders and the "EVIL INTERNET". It's now at a point where the only people who take it seriously is the twats on Today/Tonight or A Current Affair.
If the yankees had won by cheating(drugs, bribes, blackmail, etc, etc) then yes they would be viewed as the bad guys. MS did not win by having the better product, nor did they abide by the rules of the game (corporate laws, etc). Instead, they lied, cheated and stole. If MS had been a person they would have hit the mythical three strikes years ago.
I'm sorry, how does Bill Gates compare to say Nelson Mandela in the "Greatest Man of the late 20th Century"
Bill Gates may be throwing a lot of money around to charitable causes,and he is to be commended on that, whatever his motives. However you cannot seperate Bill Gates the philanthropist from Bill Gates the business man. The man who spends millions on AIDS research is also the same man who has spent the last twenty years criminally abusing his companies position as a monopolist (and for those who are going to argue about this, MS was found guilty under the law whatever your opinion),
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Ummm you'd think so, but there were major issues with dist-upgrading from Dapper to Edgy with Ubuntu.
It's now actively discouraged by the ubuntu devs to use dist-upgrade and instead you should use the updating tool in the GUI patch manager thing.
Umm if you're looking at providing myth based Home Theatre Systems as a business whats to stop you either a) Sourcing the parts and buying in bulk, or b) Sourcing ready made PC's from a parts wholesaler in say Taiwan?
You're kidding right?
Parody and satire is the best way to pillory your opposition. Make it funny and people will listen to what you say, try and get them to listen to an hour long discourse on the evils of mining and you've got glazed eyes and no chance of getting through.
You're talking about the orginal Lion Voltron. Vehicle Voltron was a modular system.
Regarding a Debian only GPLv3, whoever said this is a moron. It would be more expensive than maintaining a GPLv2 only SuSe distro and there is no need to make a GPLv3 only distro since GPLv3 is compatible with GPLv2.
Umm its actually my understanding that GPLv3 in its current unfinished form, is not compatible with GPLv2. The added restrictions sort of put the kybosh on that.
The other thing to consider is a massive community fork. Say Novell wants to stick with GPLv2, why would they not just fork those projects that decide to go with the finalised GPLv3? They wouldn't be the only people who have an issue with the new license.
Just a quick note to let everyone one know that I managed to grab a short interview with Greg about this for tonights (9:30pm AEDST (UTC+1100) episode of Open Source On The Air.
Details can be found here
I'll reserver my cheers for the person who figures out how to pay for the content (which most people have been conditioned to expect for free) without advertising of some sort.
So what you're saying is that in some other universe Jackson screwed the pooch on the films and they bombed so in this universe he doesn't deserve to ask for an independant audit of the books?
Say hi to bizarro when you see him.
Fine, you go and make the twenty-six three hour movies it would take to truly bring to life the Tolkien vision then ;)
People are making the mistake of comparing the books and films in a literal sense. The movies were never going to be able to do full justice to the vision, however I believe they are the only ones so far that have come within a mile of doing that.
Yes "Linux" can do WMV, just grab win32codecs for your distro.
No its most likely not legal, instead being a breach of the EULA that covers those codecs. Thats where the switch comes in.
It's called redundancy. Say we manage to completely hose this "stellar garden of eden"? what happens to the species? Space exploration and colonisation in my view is about insurance against our own stupidity.
Okay so explain to me how you get joe six pack to the moon without sending people up to prepare the way first? A moon base or moon hotel is not going to suddenly spring up just because people think it should, and any construction is going to need real on the ground supervision.
While we're at it lets stop leaving the house, we've got computers and robots to go shopping for us now, hell we could probably live off the internet. Oh and don't try and get out of bed, it can be bloody dangerous!
Yes.
Ralph did good work with Wizards but his version of LoTR in all its rotoscoped glory was horrendous.
Internet access through a wireless network that is probably connected to a ADSL modem has fixed costs.
Depends on where you live. For instance in Australia we have download limits. Some operators shape (reduce speed to near dialup) while others charge per MB/GB over the limit. So either way there is added cost for going over your limit.
Well if they're not distributing then thats perfectly fine. However if they are and not distributing the source then they have issues, D-Link probably being the latest example of a company trying to get around the GPL and losing.
I mean, you can hate the jews or not but your hatred shouldn't give you the right to kill them and take away their land does it?
Could we please put this furphy to bed NOW?
Just because you disagree with Israeli policy on Palestine and its methods DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ANTI-SEMITE. Sheesh.
Oh and I would like to point out that Israel has in fact been engaging in a policy of land encroachment for many years. The so called "Settlements" on palestinian land cannot be called anything but a land grab.
Just to get the message across for those who weren't listening properly the first time, YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH ISRAEL WITHOUT BEING AN ANTI-SEMITE.
Umm you seem to be forgetting IBM in your calculations. Even if both Novell and Redhat were killed off, IBM would still be there giving MS the shits.
Umm actually no, my rebuttal would be the large chunks of windows 2000 source code that was ripped out of the internal MS network by a hacker. Would that be considered "having their arses handed to them"?
Oooohkay, there seems to be a complete lack of understanding about Australian TV right there, so let's correct a few things.
The government is just trying to stop the TV stations from exploiting loopholes in the legislation.
What the government is trying to do is lock down control on ALL media outlets, whether its the big Three Networks(Commercial) or your amatuer podcasters. The Big Brother incident (which by the way was streamed at 4:30 in the morning to a pay for view audience) was a convinient excuse. There is also a large part of playing up to the "Won't someone think of the children nuts".
In this case, Capital 10 stepped over the line and was enabling children to view filthy content via the Internet.
Seriously, the event happened at 4:30 in the morning, when all good kiddies should be in bed instead of on daddies computer watching big brother. There is also an expectation that the parents should have the brains to restrict what their children are watching but thats a whole other argument. I also think you've misjudged the prime market for big brother, it's not 12-14 year olds, its the oh so shallow 18-25 year olds with mobile phones.
think the government is doing the right thing here. Personally I wish they'd say "we're backdating this new legislation and slapping you with a big fine for being jerks".
This is wrong on so many counts. First off, retrospective legislation is hugely dangerous and if they thought they could get away with it for this then away we go with some really nast shit. Secondly, do we really want the same level of government regulation for online media as we've had for the traditional media? I wonder if you remember the debacle over the digital licenses, or maybe you wonder about the reason we have only three networks instead of the many we could have.
On a final note I'd seriously get off the "Won't someone think of the children" bandwagon. It's been done to death for everything from home schooling, through to lunch orders and the "EVIL INTERNET". It's now at a point where the only people who take it seriously is the twats on Today/Tonight or A Current Affair.
You can checkout a Q and A he did here (slides used in the talk are here) and a two part interview he did for the Linux Australia Update podcast.
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SHouldn't that be:
Ahem. People WHO write correctly, that's WHOM.
Free? And how exactly is the company providing the broadband meant to pay for the upkeep of the physical network?
If the yankees had won by cheating(drugs, bribes, blackmail, etc, etc) then yes they would be viewed as the bad guys. MS did not win by having the better product, nor did they abide by the rules of the game (corporate laws, etc). Instead, they lied, cheated and stole. If MS had been a person they would have hit the mythical three strikes years ago.
I'm sorry, how does Bill Gates compare to say Nelson Mandela in the "Greatest Man of the late 20th Century"
Bill Gates may be throwing a lot of money around to charitable causes,and he is to be commended on that, whatever his motives. However you cannot seperate Bill Gates the philanthropist from Bill Gates the business man. The man who spends millions on AIDS research is also the same man who has spent the last twenty years criminally abusing his companies position as a monopolist (and for those who are going to argue about this, MS was found guilty under the law whatever your opinion),