So he wants a language that's easy to learn yet has access to a huge library base, doesn't need compiling and yet can give performances equal to a native binary? Oh and it has to be cross-platform.
Speaking as someone who is muddling along with his own OSS project (I know it's a shameful plug but hey), it is never going to be easy. Not only are you trying to write that perfect app but you are doing it as a hobby essentially, so you can't be working on it 24/7.
I would like to know exactly what he thinks will replace the troika of C/C++/Java when it comes to writing Apps, either server side or client. C/C++ are both robust well tested languages that have been used to build everything from OS's to Office Suites to the most complex 3D Animation tools while Java has come into it's own as a server side language.
I'm in two minds about his statement on the Interface. Yes a well designed GUI is essential to the success or failure of an App. either OSS or CSS. However if the backend don't work then the front end is just so much fairy dust. Looks pretty but doesn't do anything.
Well that's my uninformed ramblings on the subject. If you do look at my code remember this, at the moment its ugly as sin and doesn't do much. But sometime in the future it could be something.
And the likely hood of the majority of/. readers EVER and I mean EVER coming across this situation is probably slightly less that Linus and Bill having a love child together.
Ah yes, the good old "Only the guilty need fear" argument, shame its a fiction.
Around the world we have countless examples of restrictions made in the name of national security actually being used against the country's own citizens. East Germany, Russia, China, most of the old communist countries and so on.
The actions of the Stasi and the KGB were all justified by the excuse of "National Security".
So finding out the best way to get a living payload to another planet in our solar system and bring it back is not serious space research?
I hate to tell you this, but without actually trying to get their we work at a disadvantage when it comes to developing the technology required to move man off earth and into space. If we waited until we had the perfect technology we would be waiting for ever. Exploration and discovery is not about sitting on your arse waiting for the next business class flight, its about facing the odds and trials that breaking new ground brings.
As for your comment about the Moon Landing, as soo as you can say that you've been on the Moon then you can talk it down until then, try thinking about the fact that for the first time, a member of our species walked on another planet(oid).
Naww, only a couple of hundred years. In fact the British Empire in the 19th Century was the largest it had ever been and it was only after the second world war when britain was pretty smashed up that the real collapse happened (India/Pakistan/Bangladesh).
Seriously whats wrong with a colony on the moon or mars. Going beyond the tourist angle either location would be brilliant as the colony would have access to resources not found on earth, in fact mars could become the next gold rush given its proximity to the asteroid belt.
Just think about it, for the last thirty years we have been thinking small, I think it's time we started to think big.
Firstly by using Open Source Software you ARE supporting it. You are saying that the software is good enough to use.
Secondly, people who release Open Source Software in the hopes that they will be "discovered" or something should really be re-thinking why they are releasing their code as open source. There are many reasons why someone will release an app as an OSS project, but "It will make me money" is one of the poorer ones.
Having read the final news release, it seems the guy is pissed at the IT sector in general because he couldn't get a full time job or someone to pay him to work on his project. Welcome to the real world. Sure everyone would like to be able to do that but that should be an extra, something that might come later on if you can build something that people want and are willing to pay you for.
Long story short, if he wanted to make money off of his Open Source project then he shouldn't have relied on the milk of human kindness. He should have treated it like a business, and been prepared to put in the solid yards, not just in coding but in spruiking himself and his product.
Ahh but under the rules of free trade, the US government shouldn't be protecting anyones job, not mine, not yours not anyones.
This is where the bullshit starts. America keeps preaching free trade but will not practice what it preaches. Basically its economic foreign policy is two faced and about as trust worthy as its diplomatic foreign policy.
Perhaps they are siding with the Koreans because they see the Americans preaching free trade and then subsidising their own industries and placing unfair tariffs on imports.
Take the steel industry, in a free market it wouldn't matter where the steel comes from, however in the US the local industry is heavily subsidised and imports are hit with massive tarrifs.
As soon as the US starts to practice what it preaches then people might start to take the concept of free trade a little more seriously.
Windows GUI is a derivative of the Apple GUI, Word is a derivative of Word Perfect, XP is a derivative a piece of steaming crap. MS has not made one innovation in the entire time it has been around. Not one thing has MS built that hasn't already existed in some form.
And this is my point. MS has never relied on the technical merits of its products to make it money. It's Marketing department is where it shows it strength.
No Microsoft has been built on the strength of its Marketing. Its products are derivative, poorly coded and at best can be said to be vaguely user friendly.
Please do not confuse good marketing with product quality.
How about the rest of the world? Let's see China is the worlds biggest market, Europe is expanding, South East Asia is dragging itself out of the troubles it had. The US needs to understand that it cannot survive by pissing off the rest of the world.
No you don't negotiate with terrorists, you just fund them, and supply them with arms.
As for the rest of your post, I hate to tell you this but America isn't that fucking important. Do you know how the rest of the world could bring the US to it's knees? Stop selling stuff to it. The US needs the world a shit load more than the world needs the US.
OKay I don't normally respond to AC's but here goes.
Hey numnuts get a clue. I am not American, I am not 22 and if I was illiterate I wouldn't be able to read your little post.
Gore was boring as hell sure, but at least he wasn't some Coke snorting daddy's boy who skipped out on his national guard service and relied more on dads connections to get him what he wanted.
I will continue to call GW the shrub because that is what he is. He is not a leader, he is a follower who thinks that the John Wayne style of diplomacy will win friends and influnece people. In short the man is an idiot.
The only thing that has saved the Shrubs presidency was 11/9. If it hadn't been for that tragic event, and the resulting Neo-Macarthyism that has infected the world, people would have a whole other opinion of the man who has seen the American economy hit the skids.
Okay here's a link about the disenfranchisement of black voters. These people were scrubbed from the electoral rolls before they even had the chance to use one of those stupid machines. The scrubbing was basically that badly screwed up that thousands of legitimate voters were denied their rights. That alone should have been enough reason for a re-vote.
On your point about the head of the Electoral Office, the position should not be appointed by the governor or any member of the ruling party. The whole idea that the head of the supposedly independant arbiter of democracy should be beholden to one political party or another goes against the whole idea of a fair democracy. It's like the winning team picking whoever the hell they like as referree at the next game.
See this is the problem with American Democracy, it's not. While it may have started out with high ideals the American political system has degenerated into an almost dictatorial system with corperate bribery becoming the norm and narcissim and cronyism replacing any semblance of the sort of meritocracy that should be in place.
Here in Australia we have the concept that the public service must be able to fearlessly tell the government when it is doing the wrong thing, for the life of me I cannot see that happening in the states. Mind you I can see that concept rapidly disappearing here as well as our conservative government keeps riding the coat tails of the republicans in the US and introducing such ideas as Judges and Magistrates on limited term contracts.
Sure Bush is the president, that is a reality, however he is an illegitament holder of that office. Blatant vote rigging and denial of suffrage to large portions of the black population tainted his campaign as did the fact that for some bizarre reason the head of the Electoral Office in Florida is allowed to hold membership in a political party thus pretty much destroying any chance of impartiality on the part of the Electoral Office.
I don't deny the Shrub is president, what I do deny is his legitimacy in the post.
I don't think I'm going to be rushing out to buy this one. Apart from anything else it looks too much like Half Life and not enough like the doom of old.
Now if they were to port MOH to the Unreal 2003 engine, now that I would upgrade for.
Ummm last time I checked this article was discussing MS's actions OUTSIDE of the US, hence subject to the laws of the countries they are operating in.
Also last time I checked MS has already been pinged by the US for illegal use of its monopoly position. MS has a long history of dodgy business dealings that cannot be excused by the trite "We're capatilists dammit".
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They blame the games so people will stop blaming the shows and movies the media shows.
So he wants a language that's easy to learn yet has access to a huge library base, doesn't need compiling and yet can give performances equal to a native binary? Oh and it has to be cross-platform.
Speaking as someone who is muddling along with his own OSS project (I know it's a shameful plug but hey), it is never going to be easy. Not only are you trying to write that perfect app but you are doing it as a hobby essentially, so you can't be working on it 24/7.
I would like to know exactly what he thinks will replace the troika of C/C++/Java when it comes to writing Apps, either server side or client. C/C++ are both robust well tested languages that have been used to build everything from OS's to Office Suites to the most complex 3D Animation tools while Java has come into it's own as a server side language.
I'm in two minds about his statement on the Interface. Yes a well designed GUI is essential to the success or failure of an App. either OSS or CSS. However if the backend don't work then the front end is just so much fairy dust. Looks pretty but doesn't do anything.
Well that's my uninformed ramblings on the subject. If you do look at my code remember this, at the moment its ugly as sin and doesn't do much. But sometime in the future it could be something.
And the likely hood of the majority of /. readers EVER and I mean EVER coming across this situation is probably slightly less that Linus and Bill having a love child together.
Ah yes, the good old "Only the guilty need fear" argument, shame its a fiction.
Around the world we have countless examples of restrictions made in the name of national security actually being used against the country's own citizens. East Germany, Russia, China, most of the old communist countries and so on.
The actions of the Stasi and the KGB were all justified by the excuse of "National Security".
My god, a lawyer, on /., quick boys don't let this one get away. The next time another IANAL pops up we can aim this one at it.
So finding out the best way to get a living payload to another planet in our solar system and bring it back is not serious space research?
I hate to tell you this, but without actually trying to get their we work at a disadvantage when it comes to developing the technology required to move man off earth and into space. If we waited until we had the perfect technology we would be waiting for ever. Exploration and discovery is not about sitting on your arse waiting for the next business class flight, its about facing the odds and trials that breaking new ground brings.
As for your comment about the Moon Landing, as soo as you can say that you've been on the Moon then you can talk it down until then, try thinking about the fact that for the first time, a member of our species walked on another planet(oid).
Naww, only a couple of hundred years. In fact the British Empire in the 19th Century was the largest it had ever been and it was only after the second world war when britain was pretty smashed up that the real collapse happened (India/Pakistan/Bangladesh).
Seriously whats wrong with a colony on the moon or mars. Going beyond the tourist angle either location would be brilliant as the colony would have access to resources not found on earth, in fact mars could become the next gold rush given its proximity to the asteroid belt.
Just think about it, for the last thirty years we have been thinking small, I think it's time we started to think big.
Perhaps its because they have principles or believe that government should not be determined by the biggest cheque book.
Bribery and corruption, welcome to the American Dream.
Okay a couple of points here.
Firstly by using Open Source Software you ARE supporting it. You are saying that the software is good enough to use.
Secondly, people who release Open Source Software in the hopes that they will be "discovered" or something should really be re-thinking why they are releasing their code as open source. There are many reasons why someone will release an app as an OSS project, but "It will make me money" is one of the poorer ones.
Having read the final news release, it seems the guy is pissed at the IT sector in general because he couldn't get a full time job or someone to pay him to work on his project. Welcome to the real world. Sure everyone would like to be able to do that but that should be an extra, something that might come later on if you can build something that people want and are willing to pay you for.
Long story short, if he wanted to make money off of his Open Source project then he shouldn't have relied on the milk of human kindness. He should have treated it like a business, and been prepared to put in the solid yards, not just in coding but in spruiking himself and his product.
So it's alright when the US acts to protect US jobs but not when the South Koreans act to protect South Korean jobs?
Ahh but under the rules of free trade, the US government shouldn't be protecting anyones job, not mine, not yours not anyones.
This is where the bullshit starts. America keeps preaching free trade but will not practice what it preaches. Basically its economic foreign policy is two faced and about as trust worthy as its diplomatic foreign policy.
As someone from a country that was hit by the tariffs on imported steel I think I can safely say I know what I am talking about.
Australian steel was hit by a 40% tariff due to pressure from the US domestic steel producers. If that isn't protectionism I don't know what is.
Perhaps they are siding with the Koreans because they see the Americans preaching free trade and then subsidising their own industries and placing unfair tariffs on imports.
Take the steel industry, in a free market it wouldn't matter where the steel comes from, however in the US the local industry is heavily subsidised and imports are hit with massive tarrifs.
As soon as the US starts to practice what it preaches then people might start to take the concept of free trade a little more seriously.
Windows GUI is a derivative of the Apple GUI, Word is a derivative of Word Perfect, XP is a derivative a piece of steaming crap. MS has not made one innovation in the entire time it has been around. Not one thing has MS built that hasn't already existed in some form.
And this is my point. MS has never relied on the technical merits of its products to make it money. It's Marketing department is where it shows it strength.
No Microsoft has been built on the strength of its Marketing. Its products are derivative, poorly coded and at best can be said to be vaguely user friendly.
Please do not confuse good marketing with product quality.
How about the rest of the world? Let's see China is the worlds biggest market, Europe is expanding, South East Asia is dragging itself out of the troubles it had. The US needs to understand that it cannot survive by pissing off the rest of the world.
Why? Tell me why the world has to have the US around. There are much bigger economic markets out there.
Simple just rub a couple of sheep together.
No you don't negotiate with terrorists, you just fund them, and supply them with arms.
As for the rest of your post, I hate to tell you this but America isn't that fucking important. Do you know how the rest of the world could bring the US to it's knees? Stop selling stuff to it. The US needs the world a shit load more than the world needs the US.
So him being an idiot is why he is president?
OKay I don't normally respond to AC's but here goes.
Hey numnuts get a clue. I am not American, I am not 22 and if I was illiterate I wouldn't be able to read your little post.
Gore was boring as hell sure, but at least he wasn't some Coke snorting daddy's boy who skipped out on his national guard service and relied more on dads connections to get him what he wanted.
I will continue to call GW the shrub because that is what he is. He is not a leader, he is a follower who thinks that the John Wayne style of diplomacy will win friends and influnece people. In short the man is an idiot.
The only thing that has saved the Shrubs presidency was 11/9. If it hadn't been for that tragic event, and the resulting Neo-Macarthyism that has infected the world, people would have a whole other opinion of the man who has seen the American economy hit the skids.
Okay here's a link about the disenfranchisement of black voters. These people were scrubbed from the electoral rolls before they even had the chance to use one of those stupid machines. The scrubbing was basically that badly screwed up that thousands of legitimate voters were denied their rights. That alone should have been enough reason for a re-vote.
On your point about the head of the Electoral Office, the position should not be appointed by the governor or any member of the ruling party. The whole idea that the head of the supposedly independant arbiter of democracy should be beholden to one political party or another goes against the whole idea of a fair democracy. It's like the winning team picking whoever the hell they like as referree at the next game.
See this is the problem with American Democracy, it's not. While it may have started out with high ideals the American political system has degenerated into an almost dictatorial system with corperate bribery becoming the norm and narcissim and cronyism replacing any semblance of the sort of meritocracy that should be in place.
Here in Australia we have the concept that the public service must be able to fearlessly tell the government when it is doing the wrong thing, for the life of me I cannot see that happening in the states. Mind you I can see that concept rapidly disappearing here as well as our conservative government keeps riding the coat tails of the republicans in the US and introducing such ideas as Judges and Magistrates on limited term contracts.
Sure Bush is the president, that is a reality, however he is an illegitament holder of that office. Blatant vote rigging and denial of suffrage to large portions of the black population tainted his campaign as did the fact that for some bizarre reason the head of the Electoral Office in Florida is allowed to hold membership in a political party thus pretty much destroying any chance of impartiality on the part of the Electoral Office.
I don't deny the Shrub is president, what I do deny is his legitimacy in the post.
I don't think I'm going to be rushing out to buy this one. Apart from anything else it looks too much like Half Life and not enough like the doom of old.
Now if they were to port MOH to the Unreal 2003 engine, now that I would upgrade for.
Ummm last time I checked this article was discussing MS's actions OUTSIDE of the US, hence subject to the laws of the countries they are operating in.
Also last time I checked MS has already been pinged by the US for illegal use of its monopoly position. MS has a long history of dodgy business dealings that cannot be excused by the trite "We're capatilists dammit".