Oooh "Lesser Intelligent Breeds" well that just shuts me up doesn't it.
If you are going to bitch and moan about garbage in the streets please don't site as an example a state that has been reduced almost to rubble. You entire original post reeked of "Ewww poor people, take them somewhere else" complete with Valley Girl whine.
I would like to see where your priorities would lie if $DIETY forbid you were ever caught in the same situation. Though I'm pretty sure I know what it would be: Me, Me and bugger the rest of you.
Okay one, two, three, awwwww poor baby. I'm sorry but really if your going to bitch about Houston taking in refugees then really I couldn't give a flying fuck about you.
You really have no sense of reality do you? These people have been through hell, compounded by an inept rescue operation and society falling around their ears, the last thing they need is some whiny little toad complaining about garbage on the street. Those who commit crimes (rapes, murders) will be dealt with but don't tar the whole population.
Exactly what harm do you think we're doing? The Linux trademark has been around in the states for several years now and it hasn't caused any issues, what makes trade marking it in Australia any different?
What gravy? LMI runs at a loss, nobody gets a cut and the trademark remains the property of one Linus Torvalds. If you want to accuse people of fraud and graft, then please present objective evidence so that people may judge.
This is the point I'm trying to make, this is NOT a money grab. This is a defensive effort to protect the Linux name against those who would abuse it. In Australia we have already had one company try and grab the mark for itself and that is what we are trying to protect against.
Ah tin foil hat time! News Flah Linus Torvalds rejects "damn hippie communism", takes "Evil Facist Capitalism".
Here is the situation, a couple of years ago a company in Adelaide, South Australia trademarked the word Linux and started to demand license fees from anyone else who used the word linux. Linux Australia applied to have the trademark disallowed and won. Now the Linux Mark Institute with the assistance of Linux Australia are attempting to get Linux trademarked and hand the trademark over to Linus.
We are not going to breaking down the door of every shop that sells linux and demanding $5,000.00, that is reserved for those companies that earn a crap load every year. Yes companies such as Redhat and LinuxJournal have special rights with regards to Linux, this is because they were prepared to pony up the dough and lawyers to get the Linux name trademarked in the first place.
Yes the initial mail out was handled badly, however we are not trying to gouge everyone and lay the loot at the feet of our holy master okay?
Look this is pretty simple okay. The trademark move is a defensive measure to stop some bastard taking the name in Australia and using it for his/her own purposes. This is NOT a money grab, nor is it a play for power.
Just as the kernel is protected by copyright law, the name is and should be protected by trademark.
This is just sad. It's one thing to pick on MS for the many, many, many holes in their OS's however this is just sad and lame on so many levels, now wonder slashdot is falling of my radar.
I said many not all, you sound like you have the ideal job, however there are many many others who are stuck with PHBs who will change specs on a whim depending on what the "cool" technology of the day is.
The jobs where the Tech Guy is able to fully govern a project without outside interference are few and far between.
Someone who actually wants to work in the real world. It is an unfortunate truth that many projects are specced based on what's cool at the time rather than on what is the best solution for the problem.
a) My intent is fair use and fair use ONLY; i.e., Linus wrote the kernel, Linus owns the kernel, and I make no claim to the contrary. I'm interested purely in marketing a distribution.
Perfect this is exactly what he wants. The whole purpose of this exercise is to establish that Linux is Linus' mark not anyone elses. There is no grand SCO like conspiracy to take control of Linux, instead this is being done under the auspices of the LMI.
So you're saying that Linus shouldn't be able to trademark Linux? That's what this is all about, sheesh do some research befpore shooting your mouth off. I know this is slashdot, home of the mindless post, but this has got to be the worst thread ever.
I'm sorry are you actually trying to claim the word Linux as your own? Are you using the brand Linux as part of a product or brand? If not then what the hell are you so worried about?
It's a basic trademark issue, making sure that the Linux trademark is not abused or claimed by someone else.
It seems arbitrary, arcane, and particularly difficult to debug. On top of that, it seems to have a set of zealots who defend it (and demand it) with bitter viciousness.
And this is different from any other development language how?
It's different in that you don't need to be "Microsoft Approved" to be able to run your software on the OS whereas this - AFAIK - involved non compliant hardware being blocked from use.
Given that is the most media attention the space program has gotten in quite a while that hasn't involved the shuttle being turned into a giant fire work I say go for it.
The space program needs a good news day every now and then, let them have it
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Yes the ELECTED members of the council come from the population of the city, however the council is operated on similar lines to a corporation.
Umm this is a City Council not all the inhabitants of the City.
Oooh "Lesser Intelligent Breeds" well that just shuts me up doesn't it.
If you are going to bitch and moan about garbage in the streets please don't site as an example a state that has been reduced almost to rubble. You entire original post reeked of "Ewww poor people, take them somewhere else" complete with Valley Girl whine.
I would like to see where your priorities would lie if $DIETY forbid you were ever caught in the same situation. Though I'm pretty sure I know what it would be: Me, Me and bugger the rest of you.
Okay one, two, three, awwwww poor baby. I'm sorry but really if your going to bitch about Houston taking in refugees then really I couldn't give a flying fuck about you.
You really have no sense of reality do you? These people have been through hell, compounded by an inept rescue operation and society falling around their ears, the last thing they need is some whiny little toad complaining about garbage on the street. Those who commit crimes (rapes, murders) will be dealt with but don't tar the whole population.
Exactly what harm do you think we're doing? The Linux trademark has been around in the states for several years now and it hasn't caused any issues, what makes trade marking it in Australia any different?
What gravy? LMI runs at a loss, nobody gets a cut and the trademark remains the property of one Linus Torvalds. If you want to accuse people of fraud and graft, then please present objective evidence so that people may judge.
This is the point I'm trying to make, this is NOT a money grab. This is a defensive effort to protect the Linux name against those who would abuse it. In Australia we have already had one company try and grab the mark for itself and that is what we are trying to protect against.
I am connected with Linux Australia - the community organisation working with LMI - and I do know a bit about what is going on.
You are welcome to read whatever you like into this process, however before you go shooting your mouth off you should read through this.
Ah tin foil hat time! News Flah Linus Torvalds rejects "damn hippie communism", takes "Evil Facist Capitalism".
Here is the situation, a couple of years ago a company in Adelaide, South Australia trademarked the word Linux and started to demand license fees from anyone else who used the word linux. Linux Australia applied to have the trademark disallowed and won. Now the Linux Mark Institute with the assistance of Linux Australia are attempting to get Linux trademarked and hand the trademark over to Linus.
We are not going to breaking down the door of every shop that sells linux and demanding $5,000.00, that is reserved for those companies that earn a crap load every year. Yes companies such as Redhat and LinuxJournal have special rights with regards to Linux, this is because they were prepared to pony up the dough and lawyers to get the Linux name trademarked in the first place.
Yes the initial mail out was handled badly, however we are not trying to gouge everyone and lay the loot at the feet of our holy master okay?
Look this is pretty simple okay. The trademark move is a defensive measure to stop some bastard taking the name in Australia and using it for his/her own purposes. This is NOT a money grab, nor is it a play for power.
Just as the kernel is protected by copyright law, the name is and should be protected by trademark.
freedom source
Can we please get back to calling it French Sauce? Yeah Freedom Fries was funny but this is just silly
Why would I comment if I hadn't read the article?
Oh that was wonderful man, I snorted my drink when I read that! Classic
This is just sad. It's one thing to pick on MS for the many, many, many holes in their OS's however this is just sad and lame on so many levels, now wonder slashdot is falling of my radar.
Great, we could end up with any of the following:
Just some of the many "quality" products coming soon if Linux wasn't trade marked.
I said many not all, you sound like you have the ideal job, however there are many many others who are stuck with PHBs who will change specs on a whim depending on what the "cool" technology of the day is.
The jobs where the Tech Guy is able to fully govern a project without outside interference are few and far between.
Someone who actually wants to work in the real world. It is an unfortunate truth that many projects are specced based on what's cool at the time rather than on what is the best solution for the problem.
Yeah sure, right after I register "ReadTheFuckingArticleYouIdiotux".
a) My intent is fair use and fair use ONLY; i.e., Linus wrote the kernel, Linus owns the kernel, and I make no claim to the contrary. I'm interested purely in marketing a distribution.
Perfect this is exactly what he wants. The whole purpose of this exercise is to establish that Linux is Linus' mark not anyone elses. There is no grand SCO like conspiracy to take control of Linux, instead this is being done under the auspices of the LMI.
So you're saying that Linus shouldn't be able to trademark Linux? That's what this is all about, sheesh do some research befpore shooting your mouth off. I know this is slashdot, home of the mindless post, but this has got to be the worst thread ever.
No it's more like "Your claiming you own Linux, now fuck off". It's a defensive measure not offensive.
I'm sorry are you actually trying to claim the word Linux as your own? Are you using the brand Linux as part of a product or brand? If not then what the hell are you so worried about?
It's a basic trademark issue, making sure that the Linux trademark is not abused or claimed by someone else.
It seems arbitrary, arcane, and particularly difficult to debug. On top of that, it seems to have a set of zealots who defend it (and demand it) with bitter viciousness.
And this is different from any other development language how?
It's different in that you don't need to be "Microsoft Approved" to be able to run your software on the OS whereas this - AFAIK - involved non compliant hardware being blocked from use.
Given that is the most media attention the space program has gotten in quite a while that hasn't involved the shuttle being turned into a giant fire work I say go for it.
The space program needs a good news day every now and then, let them have it
Probably because even the thought of the crap flood that is Word generated HTML offends mightily.
On a less anti-MS note, cleaning up the HTML would probably reduce file size as well as moving towards more standards based output