Unions have some bad points, and many people like to point them out for being greedy and self serving bastards who are gouging the companies.
Well Unions are the result of the management abusing workers in the extreme, 100 years ago, they were still using children in dangerous factory jobs. Anyone want to have worked in a coal mine 100 years ago? It is was just dangerous, it was out and out deadly. Unions brought alot of workers rights that did not exist before, like minimum wage. You do not think that management brought that about, do you?
To give a more recent example, management of American Airlines was complaining that they might have go to bankrupty if the Unions did not make concessions, which they did. Not long after it was revealed that management was giving itself retention bonuses. It is just easier to blame Unions because everyone knows what they earn, but not everyone knows what a manager does...
Stupidity is not being able to learn somethiing. Ignorance is not knowing something, but it doesn't exclude the capacity to learn. Most people, when it compes to the intracacies of the PC, are ignorant, rather than stupid. And they want to be.
Would you not define willful Ignorance as Stupidity? Ignorance is the capacity without the knowledge, but if you will youself to not have the capacity then you are, by your definition, Stupid.
I hate to point this out, but they could not manage the staff that they used to create the game. The question was not about money, but about execution. The result was that they spent 3 million dollars.
You have not proven that you can manage a staff of american programmers, yet you are assuming that you will be able to manage a staff of russian programmers and russian artists, just because you are offereing to do it for less does not mean you are any more capable. Less risky, but not more capable.
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I am willing to beat that you can always get support for an older Linux system, though you may have to pay for it. You cannot get support for a old Windows system whether you want or not.
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Talk about a bunch of BS. RedHat wants to charge for support for the OS. Now Carey does not want to buy Linux but would rather go with Windows. So pay Microsoft for a license and then hire your staff for support to address the problems that Microsoft did not fix. Or use Linux and pay Redhat to support the OS and not pay any licenses, or not pay RedHat and hire your own staff. Either way you are not paying for a license to Redhat and you are paying for support for both products so it seems like Linux is still a winner.
I always find it funny that companies, in general, are willing to hype up the "new economy" in which everything goes online but then you have whole industries that will not even consider trying to sell most of their product online.
Well if you don't have sort of controls in place this thing is going to happen. I understand why "Transcription Stat" did a contract with Sonya Newburn she was cheap. However they are still responsible for her work. Contracting to someone else does not relieve someone of the responsibility of the work their supposed to do.
Lets suppose ConstructCo(made up company) is building the new "Twin Towers". They use lots of contractors who specialize in different parts of the contstruction(fairly common thing to do). If one of those contractors screw up and does a crappy job and the building collapses you would not want ConstructCo to say, "It was not me! It was the contractors fault!" It would be ConstructCo's fault because you asked them to do the work, not a contractor. They have to exercise responsibility when they outsource not try to escape it. In fact the law(in the US) is applied in that manor.
Going back to the main story with "Transcript Stat". They still need to exercise responsibility when using contractors. If they cannot then they should have kept it in-house and charge more money for the service or not do the work at all.
She was breaking her contract by subcontracting out to someone else, that was illegal but only in terms of the contract.
If those medical records were released she could have been held in breaking HIPPA law. Government does not provide alot of protection but if someone is giving care of these sorts of records they can get into all sorts of trouble.
There was slight confusion on what I was referring to as illegal, thanks for pointing that out.
Just because you are using a contractor does not absolve you of the responbility. A company that has a contractor do something illegal, as a representative of the company, is liable for the acts of that contractor.
Using this story, The hopital could have been sued if patient records were placed on the internet and the hospital would have sued "Transcript Stat." Sonya Newburn herself might even be held personally responsible depending on the type of company she had and even then that might not protect her either.
So even if the hospital did not do wrong and did not knew, the fact was that they are held responsible for the work done by the people that they used. You can contract responsibility away from yourself, only get someone else to do it for you and realize, "if they screw up I am going to be held for their fuck up."
It did not take one little e-mail to ruin her. It took one little email for her to get caught. She was doing something illegal, knew it and had gotten away with it for a while. That email did not ruin her, she did it to herself.
Considering that they are selling real estate on Mars I guess these guys do
OK, maybe not but it will interesting for those people foolish enough to have bought into this to try to lay claim to their land. "Hey, NASA get your Rover off my property or I will charge you with trespassing!":)
Ah yes, we should not do anything until we (scientists) can conclude whether or not there is life on mars and it is unethical because it may destroy life.
Scientific knowledge is not an absolute for withholding developmental progress. The need for human life on Mars may (or may not) outweigh the needs for research on new life. There is no way to determine if humanity will need to live on Mars (nuclear war anyone?)
Also consider it will take decades if not hundreds of years for it to be technologically feasible to even consider terraforming Mars, not including the process of actually doing so. I certainly don't want to limit the future from considering it because someone says, "don't destroy the habitat of Mars man!"
It just maybe a ball of giant red dirt, noone really knows for sure and for someone to say that nothing should be done to terraform it is being just as selfish as someone saying we should terraform it what ever the costs.
What Suprises me the most about current games the only thing that has been reasonably modular about is the game engine. The game engines, lets face it, are not exactly accessible for someone who is not interested in dedicating themselves to a part time job.
The amount of programming knowledge easily becomes a barrier, through in artistry and some level design issues we have created a very high wall for someone to just pick up and design something. As long as the tools are relatively inaccessible you are limited in the number of people who can create games you limit the quality of games in general.
Does that mean no good games are made, no of course not. However, how many people believe that their should be more good games out there than what gets put out right now?
OK, now that I have your attention, I believe that the reason that alot of IT people joined IT was to do new things and make things better. However, that is not always socially conductive to getting a managerial job. Not saying that they are unsocial but the skills are different and alot of IT don't want to change what they loved doing.
Now if IT people are not becoming managers who are the managers? Well managers from other divisions who were not good enough to be managers in their specialty. lets face it, if they were a good manager in Accounting, Business Administration, etc... someone would have kept them on there. But to get hired as a manager you have to managerial experience, well since they have been managers and they need managers these sorts of people get the job.
These managers have no experience with IT, in fact they are barely lucky if they understand what their employees do. However they will be the ones deciding how to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on software, hardware, technical suppport but don't have a background in those areas. When you have these sorts of managers they will make bad decisions that other people have to live with and the IT get blamed for it.
Is this indicative of all management? No. Can anyone disagree with me strongly that I am completely wrong? HA! Go ahead and try. I am sure that a number of IT people can relate to this model. If you want a good comparision, try this, how often do you see an IT manager get assigned as the VP of Accounting? How often do you see an accounting manager, sales manager, etc... get assigned as the CIO of a company. Hell, I work for a huge insurance company and our CIO was a nutritionist. What does she bring to the table, ways to keep servers healthy?
Well you never know, maybe a couple of hundred years from now they will have a law stating that someone can claim an asteriod and not a planet. The definition that they use for a planet is the one we establish now.
Sounds silly but that is how alot of legal precedents get set. Not saying it is right or wrong just saying that it is a possibility.
Reading your post I am doing something similiar. I am outsourcing a commercial software project to a friends company in China. I am the one doing all the design, project management and quality assurance and eventually be the salesman too. I don't have the skills to do the job myself, it would take a couple of years for me to get to that point and then I would still need to do the programming. If I tried to outsource it in the US it would be a $200,000 project which I don't have and I still would have to find programmers to actually do the project. outsourcing it to some good programmers and the project costs are $30,000. I could not even consider doing it if I could not do it in China.
My situation is fairly unique compared to large companies trying to outsource whole departments to India. While I have creative control and final say, most management in the US don't have any real design knowledge or quality control when it comes to writing software. They are making the assumption that a person in India is the same as the person in the US ignoring all the things the person who has worked for them has brought. New ideas, understanding business needs, meeting rather unreasonable time expectations are all things that these people do.
I think that you will find that these companies are going to be slowly start losing market share because they are going to stagnate, they will have no reservior of new ideas. They will have a source of cheap labor for their current software, but it will never get better and just maintain a status quo.
Anyways, just ranting..., hopefully someone can find something in there.
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Unions have some bad points, and many people like to point them out for being greedy and self serving bastards who are gouging the companies.
Well Unions are the result of the management abusing workers in the extreme, 100 years ago, they were still using children in dangerous factory jobs. Anyone want to have worked in a coal mine 100 years ago? It is was just dangerous, it was out and out deadly. Unions brought alot of workers rights that did not exist before, like minimum wage. You do not think that management brought that about, do you?
To give a more recent example, management of American Airlines was complaining that they might have go to bankrupty if the Unions did not make concessions, which they did. Not long after it was revealed that management was giving itself retention bonuses. It is just easier to blame Unions because everyone knows what they earn, but not everyone knows what a manager does...
Stupidity is not being able to learn somethiing. Ignorance is not knowing something, but it doesn't exclude the capacity to learn. Most people, when it compes to the intracacies of the PC, are ignorant, rather than stupid. And they want to be.
Would you not define willful Ignorance as Stupidity? Ignorance is the capacity without the knowledge, but if you will youself to not have the capacity then you are, by your definition, Stupid.
Evidently he was successful and defeated the Master Program...
I hate to point this out, but they could not manage the staff that they used to create the game. The question was not about money, but about execution. The result was that they spent 3 million dollars. You have not proven that you can manage a staff of american programmers, yet you are assuming that you will be able to manage a staff of russian programmers and russian artists, just because you are offereing to do it for less does not mean you are any more capable. Less risky, but not more capable.
I am willing to beat that you can always get support for an older Linux system, though you may have to pay for it. You cannot get support for a old Windows system whether you want or not.
Talk about a bunch of BS. RedHat wants to charge for support for the OS. Now Carey does not want to buy Linux but would rather go with Windows. So pay Microsoft for a license and then hire your staff for support to address the problems that Microsoft did not fix. Or use Linux and pay Redhat to support the OS and not pay any licenses, or not pay RedHat and hire your own staff. Either way you are not paying for a license to Redhat and you are paying for support for both products so it seems like Linux is still a winner.
It's time for FOX to take a chance,
THATS RIGHT! It is about time that Fox take a chance and finally announces a new hit series, "When [_____] Attack!"
[ ] Bears
[ ] Wild Animals
[ ] Criminals
[ ] Police
[ ] Naked Women
[ ] Politicians
[ ] Tonya Harding
It will good to finally get some quality television again!
Maybe the fact that Wal-Mart has a COUPLE BILLION DOLLARS!
If you think that you can get anywhere near as good a deal as Wal-Mart when negotiating for a product you are sadly mistaken. Just ask Vlasic
An African or a European pigeon?
Who wouldn't love the Woman of Wrestling!
I always find it funny that companies, in general, are willing to hype up the "new economy" in which everything goes online but then you have whole industries that will not even consider trying to sell most of their product online.
Well if you don't have sort of controls in place this thing is going to happen. I understand why "Transcription Stat" did a contract with Sonya Newburn she was cheap. However they are still responsible for her work. Contracting to someone else does not relieve someone of the responsibility of the work their supposed to do.
Lets suppose ConstructCo(made up company) is building the new "Twin Towers". They use lots of contractors who specialize in different parts of the contstruction(fairly common thing to do). If one of those contractors screw up and does a crappy job and the building collapses you would not want ConstructCo to say, "It was not me! It was the contractors fault!" It would be ConstructCo's fault because you asked them to do the work, not a contractor. They have to exercise responsibility when they outsource not try to escape it. In fact the law(in the US) is applied in that manor.
Going back to the main story with "Transcript Stat". They still need to exercise responsibility when using contractors. If they cannot then they should have kept it in-house and charge more money for the service or not do the work at all.
She was breaking her contract by subcontracting out to someone else, that was illegal but only in terms of the contract.
If those medical records were released she could have been held in breaking HIPPA law. Government does not provide alot of protection but if someone is giving care of these sorts of records they can get into all sorts of trouble.
There was slight confusion on what I was referring to as illegal, thanks for pointing that out.
Just because you are using a contractor does not absolve you of the responbility. A company that has a contractor do something illegal, as a representative of the company, is liable for the acts of that contractor. Using this story, The hopital could have been sued if patient records were placed on the internet and the hospital would have sued "Transcript Stat." Sonya Newburn herself might even be held personally responsible depending on the type of company she had and even then that might not protect her either. So even if the hospital did not do wrong and did not knew, the fact was that they are held responsible for the work done by the people that they used. You can contract responsibility away from yourself, only get someone else to do it for you and realize, "if they screw up I am going to be held for their fuck up."
It did not take one little e-mail to ruin her. It took one little email for her to get caught. She was doing something illegal, knew it and had gotten away with it for a while. That email did not ruin her, she did it to herself.
You want a real 911 call, try this recording. It is an oldie but a goodie.
who owns Mars...
Considering that they are selling real estate on Mars I guess these guys do
OK, maybe not but it will interesting for those people foolish enough to have bought into this to try to lay claim to their land. "Hey, NASA get your Rover off my property or I will charge you with trespassing!" :)
Ah yes, we should not do anything until we (scientists) can conclude whether or not there is life on mars and it is unethical because it may destroy life.
Scientific knowledge is not an absolute for withholding developmental progress. The need for human life on Mars may (or may not) outweigh the needs for research on new life. There is no way to determine if humanity will need to live on Mars (nuclear war anyone?)
Also consider it will take decades if not hundreds of years for it to be technologically feasible to even consider terraforming Mars, not including the process of actually doing so. I certainly don't want to limit the future from considering it because someone says, "don't destroy the habitat of Mars man!"
It just maybe a ball of giant red dirt, noone really knows for sure and for someone to say that nothing should be done to terraform it is being just as selfish as someone saying we should terraform it what ever the costs.
Yeah it could be called,
Mars Wars: The Methane Menace!
What Suprises me the most about current games the only thing that has been reasonably modular about is the game engine. The game engines, lets face it, are not exactly accessible for someone who is not interested in dedicating themselves to a part time job.
The amount of programming knowledge easily becomes a barrier, through in artistry and some level design issues we have created a very high wall for someone to just pick up and design something. As long as the tools are relatively inaccessible you are limited in the number of people who can create games you limit the quality of games in general.
Does that mean no good games are made, no of course not. However, how many people believe that their should be more good games out there than what gets put out right now?
OK, now that I have your attention, I believe that the reason that alot of IT people joined IT was to do new things and make things better. However, that is not always socially conductive to getting a managerial job. Not saying that they are unsocial but the skills are different and alot of IT don't want to change what they loved doing.
Now if IT people are not becoming managers who are the managers? Well managers from other divisions who were not good enough to be managers in their specialty. lets face it, if they were a good manager in Accounting, Business Administration, etc... someone would have kept them on there. But to get hired as a manager you have to managerial experience, well since they have been managers and they need managers these sorts of people get the job.
These managers have no experience with IT, in fact they are barely lucky if they understand what their employees do. However they will be the ones deciding how to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on software, hardware, technical suppport but don't have a background in those areas. When you have these sorts of managers they will make bad decisions that other people have to live with and the IT get blamed for it.
Is this indicative of all management? No. Can anyone disagree with me strongly that I am completely wrong? HA! Go ahead and try. I am sure that a number of IT people can relate to this model. If you want a good comparision, try this, how often do you see an IT manager get assigned as the VP of Accounting? How often do you see an accounting manager, sales manager, etc... get assigned as the CIO of a company. Hell, I work for a huge insurance company and our CIO was a nutritionist. What does she bring to the table, ways to keep servers healthy?
Well you never know, maybe a couple of hundred years from now they will have a law stating that someone can claim an asteriod and not a planet. The definition that they use for a planet is the one we establish now.
Sounds silly but that is how alot of legal precedents get set. Not saying it is right or wrong just saying that it is a possibility.
Quote but I forget from where, sorry for no credit.
It is science that tells us that the tomato is a fruit. It is wisdom that keeps us from adding it to a fruit salad.
Probalbly attended GW. Bush's account class...
GW Bush: 50 Billion, 500 Billion, whats the difference? It is not a big number is it?
Reading your post I am doing something similiar. I am outsourcing a commercial software project to a friends company in China. I am the one doing all the design, project management and quality assurance and eventually be the salesman too. I don't have the skills to do the job myself, it would take a couple of years for me to get to that point and then I would still need to do the programming. If I tried to outsource it in the US it would be a $200,000 project which I don't have and I still would have to find programmers to actually do the project. outsourcing it to some good programmers and the project costs are $30,000. I could not even consider doing it if I could not do it in China.
My situation is fairly unique compared to large companies trying to outsource whole departments to India. While I have creative control and final say, most management in the US don't have any real design knowledge or quality control when it comes to writing software. They are making the assumption that a person in India is the same as the person in the US ignoring all the things the person who has worked for them has brought. New ideas, understanding business needs, meeting rather unreasonable time expectations are all things that these people do.
I think that you will find that these companies are going to be slowly start losing market share because they are going to stagnate, they will have no reservior of new ideas. They will have a source of cheap labor for their current software, but it will never get better and just maintain a status quo.
Anyways, just ranting..., hopefully someone can find something in there.