Or into the world trade center, as happened in the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen. Except back march 4th 2001. It was more subverted by the govt to crash into the WTC to preempt a war, and hacked by the lone gunmen to keep it from crashing, but same concept of remote control abuse.
You can do something even more powerful -- Vote over who does get to preside over cases, and vote not guilty on drug cases by fulfilling your civic duty and going to jury duty.
Never understood why people wanted out of it. Yes its inconvenient, but it's a hell of a lot more inconvenient for the defendant to get a juror who just votes guilty because he bought whatever line of bullshit the prosecution sold and wants to get home quicker.
not to mention lack of proper record keeping according to 18 USC 2257. Admittedly part of that law got stuck down(rightfully), but I think he'd still need some kind of records of anybody with funparts on his website.
And then when that happens I'll scrape tech/hacker sites (and google results for tech results) for email addresses to send spam to for my competitors website.
an army of frustrated shortsighted hackers willing to do my evil bidding, sounds fun.
Murder is another one. Killing someone on purpose is murder, short of self-defense or actual war.
So, Murder isn't murder then.
You're coming at me with a knife. I shoot you. Self defense, not murder, okay.
You broke into my house. No weapon. Still scary looking. I shoot you. Self defense? Maybe, but I hope you're ready to go through a hell of a court case depending on where you live.
Or if you're attacking someone else and I end your life. Not self defense, still not murder but a huge gray area legally at least.
Both legally and morally they come down to "was lethal force required or justified, or was there another option you could have used".
You could also blur the 'war' one quiet a lot too-- gang wars certainly aren't official enough to count, but where do you draw the line? If you're with your country's armed forces in a country you have not declared war with and you shoot an enemy combatant(or potentially civilian) that may or may not represent the local country, is that murder?
(for the record, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I'm all for gun rights and such, I just know that with any definition comes corner cases and gray area.)
It's more I wish more people enjoyed what I liked than me wishing they disliked what I dislike.
I have no problem with people liking something I dislike, though with the same stipulation you said as far as not being dragged out to it. I just think gaming encourages the dragging you out more so than anything else, because people depend on your presence for the full experience of the game.
Don't forget who normally prowls the Slashdot grounds.:)
People who are well aware of what GNU is and what Linux is, and don't need the superfluous inclusion?
The only time "GNU/Linux" would make sense would be if Linux was primarily used with BSD utils, and someone was packaging it with GNU.
Since that's not the case, the GNU is implied. Just like how if someone asks what gps nav unit I have I say "Garmin Nuvi 750", not "Navtech/SiRF/Garmin Nuvi 750", but mapping software and gps chip itself is just as important as GNU's userland is to linux.
While I agree, and wish more people felt this way, multiplayer games have a bit of a catch: Some games depend entirely on having a good userbase to be enjoyable.
I'd say as far as personal enjoyment of gameplay goes, one of my favorite games that brought me the most enjoyment was playing Natural Selection 1.04 in the Clan216 server.
Some combination of the gameplay and having a server filled with regulars whom I knew I could trust lead to a level of consistent enjoyment I've yet to find in many years of gaming after that.
But even if I go fire up NS1.04 (which I still could, if I were so inclined), it would be nowhere near the same experience as playing with the people I used to. Instead I'd be running around in empty servers, or stuck trying to convince 16-20 friends that they should go out of their way to play and then deal with what they personally find "good".
Sometimes you're stuck making sacrifices. A large number of people liked CS beta7 more than 1.0C, and 1.0 more than 1.3, and 1.3 more than 1.5, and 1.5 more than 1.6. If people didn't suck it up and adapt to the changes they found bad then they'd never have anyone to play with and the community would be so scattered that it would shrivel up and die.
Personally I really don't like WoW that much, but I played it for a long time because there were parts that I enjoyed and it meant playing with the friends I like to game with, so I put up with it. There is a lot to be said for it too, I've yet to find a game with as nice interface for client side modification -- something alot of other games would outright ban for fear of cheating but instead allows for endless customization.
That's what ICMP is most used for. Unfortunately most routers know this and often treat them specially as a result -- Prioritize them or route them through your best bandwidth to make your hosting facility appear more responsive.
Luckily you can deduce ping or route from just about any kind of packet that will generate a response from the distention machine by just timing it and/or reducing the TTL. Good way to discover where things get filtered.
You're talking about burst though. Caps dont effect burst, unless you're downloading 4 movies EVERY time they're downloading 1, as long as it averages out to the same numebr of movies per month its all the same.
Specifically, lets say I pay netflix $10/mo for unlimitted streaming, then I try to watch 20 movies in a month, each streaming at 3mbps * {movie_run_length}, assuming a conservative 90min run length thats 20 * (3megabits per second * 90 minutes) or 40 gigs.
If my ISP capped me at 20 gigabytes with $1/gig overage, I just paid netflix $10 and my isp twice that for my movies.
The ISPs just want you to think about burst because that is a legit problem -- usage during peak hours overwhelming capacity. Being limitted to N gigs per month will do nothing about that as we'll all still be using those same N gigs at the same time.
If anything it would make it worse since instead of doing things like rss feeds feeding bittorrent letting me download stuff i may or may not watch the next day during peak times, I'll be forced to stream things as needed so as not to waste bandwidth.
Why do you regularly download isos on a residential* line? How often are you reinstalling? Why are you not net installing only downloading what you need? Or installing off an old medium and updating?
*: Working at a hosting facility or similar environments where you have to deal with peoples demands and lots of machines would justify it, but be done on a business line or college line.
Actually I didn't even think about it, and no wonder I didn't recognize the location codes. That is entirely reasonable if not impressive that PA -> euro is 8 hops.
Your traceroute and your conclusion are nothing alike.
Looks to me more like comcast hands it off to globalcrossing, who then takes it through what is actually their edge, and then PirateBay.org does not respond to your UDP requests, likely due to a firewall.
This can be verified with a TCP SYN based traceroute to port 80(which you know they allow). Heres one I did from a server with comcast.
TTL LFT trace to thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146):80/tcp ** [firewall] the next gateway may statefully inspect packets
1 [AS7016] [CABLE-1] 73.201.88.1 6.2/9.7ms ** [neglected] no reply packets received from TTLs 2 through 4
5 [AS7922] [COMCAST-16] te-0-4-0-1-cr01.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.129) 18.4/13.8ms
6 [ASN?] [GBLX-13] Te6-4.ar2.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.194.97) 14.6/25.3ms
7 [AS3549] [GBLX-8] port80.ge-2-0-0.407ar1.ARN1.gblx.net (207.138.144.102) 140.7/139.9ms
8 [AS16150] [83-RIPE] [target] thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146):80 143.3/142.9ms
Now the fact that it jumps about 110ms in one hop is a little odd, but that just shows GlobalCrossing isn't exactly top of the line.
And just for another datapoint, heres the (tail of) the same route using ICMP ECHO requests instead of UDP datagrams:
5 te-0-4-0-1-cr01.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.129) 13.598 ms 14.115 ms 13.300 ms
6 Te6-4.ar2.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.194.97) 14.536 ms 13.284 ms 16.724 ms
7 port80.ge-2-0-0.407ar1.ARN1.gblx.net (207.138.144.102) 137.295 ms 135.119 ms 136.846 ms
8 thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146) 135.577 ms 133.808 ms 131.285 ms
If the bus company was offering 20+seats for the price of one, I'd be upset with the bus company that they couldn't fulfill their offer. Even if not, if the capacity is there not being used I'd rather SOMEONE fill it rather than bus around empty seats. As long as you're using transportation as an analogy, what if all airline companies sold were unlimited travel subscriptions with the catch that its all on standby. Wouldn't you be a little upset if they started demanding more from you because you actually used the service, while still raking in money from people who don't? Key word being unlimited.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; If ISPs want me to pay more for actually using the bandwidth they sell me, anybody not using it should get to pay less. Every grandparent sitting on a 8megabit line that loads email and occasionally ebay once a week? They should be paying pennies.
As long as they're okay taking $50 from people who use 0.0001% of their line capacity, they better take $50 for me using ~80% of mine. Or start changing what they're advertising and selling, and price it reasonably.
Maybe try UDP? not exactly the best way to send a file, but I'd be curious if/how they deal with that. You can rig up an easy enough transfer with netcat:
Because you're talking about awareness. You didn't need to see an ad for that mp3 player, someone could have accurately described it to you and you wanted one. Or you could have had a Diamond Rio 64mb mp3 player from 1999 and your imagination could have sprang from there on how it could be better.
Even if you got rid of childporn or hardcore pornography, people would still be aware of it. No more domination in porn? Hope you never see a maid or other servent while thinking about sex and connect the dots. Or see a 17 year old in a bikini. Or really anything that can become sexual (and anything can.)
Not to mention the explicit banning of it is enough awareness to create demand. You might not know who Traci Lords is or give a crap about her age, but once you announce to everyone that its not legal you just sparked interest.
You'd need to perpetually scrub all knowledge of it, eliminating anyone who exercised any imagination and came up with something forbidden on their own. Shit, anyone too drunk to stick it in the right hole is a liability.
I'd phrase it as.... Say my girlfriend likes putting her hair in pigtails, and wearing a schoolgirl outfit. Say my girlfriend likes fantasy roleplay including rape scenerios. Does that make either of us bad? nope.
Only for talking about it but not providing pictures.
; but I wonder if anyone who knows networking ever called their bluff
The problem is anyone that actually knows their stuff is first off likely busy and can't take the time off work/potentially huge financial loss from fighting it, and second off is likely guilty on some level. Maybe not of the exact crime listed, but I find it hard to believe theres any knowledgable sysadmin types that have never broken copyright law (knowingly or not), considering how easy it is to do so. You pretty much have to go out of your way not to.
Your ip would still be under the hash that is for an illegal file -- They aren't just running netstat on the tracker box, the IP's are listed based on hash they asked for/advertised.
That, and the presence of legal content really doesn't help. Just ask Napster. Or mp3.com
(This tactic was thwarted by taking advantage of the fact that spoofed users could effectively SEND spoofed traffic but not RECEIVE messages, so a CAPTCHA-style feature called "nospoof" was introduced into the connection process.)
I thought that was more to prevent people from abusing open FTP sites with the 'ftp bounce attack' All you had to do was upload a text file containing the commands you wanted, like USER ADFGHDFKJGH KSDJGSDF KGH SDKF H NICK GJKHDSKJGFS JOIN #COOLKIDS PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA [etc]
then download it back off the server, but telling the server your ip/port you want to recieve the file is irc.whatever.org 6667
This of course depends on the ftp site allowing remote ips to be used, but most did and a lot still do.
It will probably run on DirectX10 with backwards support for Directx9. IIRC, thats what the xbox uses too, so you'll probably need to specify DX9 or 10 on x86 or x64. More specifically I imagine theres a lower end on the number of processor extensions needed, so probably x86/x64 with at least support for sse3, mmx, sse, etc.
Or you could just not be a douche and say "PC" like everyone else. Leave the specifics for the hardware requirements.
Not saying "PC only" is saying I'm so insecure about myself that I need to arbitrarily use my own terminology because whats popular does not make me stand out. Just like people saying "USian" or "GNU/Linux"
Couldn't agree more. XMLTerm's lack of a finished product saddens me more than just about any other dead project.
It would make web devel really easy (just let a pane spit its contents out to stdout to make sure they're good).
It would make console irc clients waste a bit less space (collapsed timestamps with javascript? Collapsed smaller font userlist?)
It could make console text editors AMAZING if done right -- GVim is a disappointment imo. It's just XTerm with tabs and a menubar-- The editor part itself is still stuck all being a single font, rather than being able to have a side split with ctags in it in a smaller font, code folding to a single pixel line or two instead of an entire row of -------------, and all kinds of other decoration that is missing.
Theres just so much potential for a GOOD xmlterm, but nobody has the time, interest, or skill to pick it up. (mark me down under no time and not enough skill).
Ideally you could script up entire gui applications like filebrowsers all based on xmlterm, where you start out with a normal file browser view of folders where clicking on one opens another, but at any point you could trigger a change of generating script so that its spitting out a table for 'details' view based on grepping of files for RCS tags or parsing svn info or whatever you want.
But the human brain will KICK ASS over just about any other technology out there in deciding whether or not a particular image contains a cat.
I disagree -- I have a about a 4 in 10 success rate on rapidshares new "type the letters that have a cat behind them" captcha. Surely someone could write an app to do better.
Thats actually a really painful restriction. If it wernt for that then someone could have written a wrapper around a poor and incomplete opensource physics engine that replicates Havoks api and then just let people link their own havok engine dll in to an open source game (without violating the gpl, so long as they don't redistribute).
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Or into the world trade center, as happened in the pilot episode of the X-Files spin-off The Lone Gunmen.
Except back march 4th 2001. It was more subverted by the govt to crash into the WTC to preempt a war, and hacked by the lone gunmen to keep it from crashing, but same concept of remote control abuse.
Crazy crazy writers..
You can do something even more powerful -- Vote over who does get to preside over cases, and vote not guilty on drug cases by fulfilling your civic duty and going to jury duty.
Never understood why people wanted out of it. Yes its inconvenient, but it's a hell of a lot more inconvenient for the defendant to get a juror who just votes guilty because he bought whatever line of bullshit the prosecution sold and wants to get home quicker.
not to mention lack of proper record keeping according to 18 USC 2257. Admittedly part of that law got stuck down(rightfully), but I think he'd still need some kind of records of anybody with funparts on his website.
And then when that happens I'll scrape tech/hacker sites (and google results for tech results) for email addresses to send spam to for my competitors website.
an army of frustrated shortsighted hackers willing to do my evil bidding, sounds fun.
So, Murder isn't murder then.
You're coming at me with a knife. I shoot you. Self defense, not murder, okay.
You broke into my house. No weapon. Still scary looking. I shoot you. Self defense? Maybe, but I hope you're ready to go through a hell of a court case depending on where you live.
Or if you're attacking someone else and I end your life. Not self defense, still not murder but a huge gray area legally at least.
Both legally and morally they come down to "was lethal force required or justified, or was there another option you could have used".
You could also blur the 'war' one quiet a lot too-- gang wars certainly aren't official enough to count, but where do you draw the line? If you're with your country's armed forces in a country you have not declared war with and you shoot an enemy combatant(or potentially civilian) that may or may not represent the local country, is that murder?
(for the record, I'm just playing devils advocate here. I'm all for gun rights and such, I just know that with any definition comes corner cases and gray area.)
It's more I wish more people enjoyed what I liked than me wishing they disliked what I dislike.
I have no problem with people liking something I dislike, though with the same stipulation you said as far as not being dragged out to it. I just think gaming encourages the dragging you out more so than anything else, because people depend on your presence for the full experience of the game.
People who are well aware of what GNU is and what Linux is, and don't need the superfluous inclusion?
The only time "GNU/Linux" would make sense would be if Linux was primarily used with BSD utils, and someone was packaging it with GNU.
Since that's not the case, the GNU is implied. Just like how if someone asks what gps nav unit I have I say "Garmin Nuvi 750", not "Navtech/SiRF/Garmin Nuvi 750", but mapping software and gps chip itself is just as important as GNU's userland is to linux.
While I agree, and wish more people felt this way, multiplayer games have a bit of a catch: Some games depend entirely on having a good userbase to be enjoyable.
I'd say as far as personal enjoyment of gameplay goes, one of my favorite games that brought me the most enjoyment was playing Natural Selection 1.04 in the Clan216 server.
Some combination of the gameplay and having a server filled with regulars whom I knew I could trust lead to a level of consistent enjoyment I've yet to find in many years of gaming after that.
But even if I go fire up NS1.04 (which I still could, if I were so inclined), it would be nowhere near the same experience as playing with the people I used to. Instead I'd be running around in empty servers, or stuck trying to convince 16-20 friends that they should go out of their way to play and then deal with what they personally find "good".
Sometimes you're stuck making sacrifices. A large number of people liked CS beta7 more than 1.0C, and 1.0 more than 1.3, and 1.3 more than 1.5, and 1.5 more than 1.6. If people didn't suck it up and adapt to the changes they found bad then they'd never have anyone to play with and the community would be so scattered that it would shrivel up and die.
Personally I really don't like WoW that much, but I played it for a long time because there were parts that I enjoyed and it meant playing with the friends I like to game with, so I put up with it. There is a lot to be said for it too, I've yet to find a game with as nice interface for client side modification -- something alot of other games would outright ban for fear of cheating but instead allows for endless customization.
That's what ICMP is most used for. Unfortunately most routers know this and often treat them specially as a result -- Prioritize them or route them through your best bandwidth to make your hosting facility appear more responsive.
Luckily you can deduce ping or route from just about any kind of packet that will generate a response from the distention machine by just timing it and/or reducing the TTL. Good way to discover where things get filtered.
You're talking about burst though. Caps dont effect burst, unless you're downloading 4 movies EVERY time they're downloading 1, as long as it averages out to the same numebr of movies per month its all the same.
Specifically, lets say I pay netflix $10/mo for unlimitted streaming, then I try to watch 20 movies in a month, each streaming at 3mbps * {movie_run_length}, assuming a conservative 90min run length thats
20 * (3megabits per second * 90 minutes) or 40 gigs.
If my ISP capped me at 20 gigabytes with $1/gig overage, I just paid netflix $10 and my isp twice that for my movies.
The ISPs just want you to think about burst because that is a legit problem -- usage during peak hours overwhelming capacity. Being limitted to N gigs per month will do nothing about that as we'll all still be using those same N gigs at the same time.
If anything it would make it worse since instead of doing things like rss feeds feeding bittorrent letting me download stuff i may or may not watch the next day during peak times, I'll be forced to stream things as needed so as not to waste bandwidth.
Why do you regularly download isos on a residential* line? How often are you reinstalling? Why are you not net installing only downloading what you need? Or installing off an old medium and updating?
*: Working at a hosting facility or similar environments where you have to deal with peoples demands and lots of machines would justify it, but be done on a business line or college line.
Actually I didn't even think about it, and no wonder I didn't recognize the location codes.
That is entirely reasonable if not impressive that PA -> euro is 8 hops.
I'm not your buddy, pal
Your traceroute and your conclusion are nothing alike.
Looks to me more like comcast hands it off to globalcrossing, who then takes it through what is actually their edge, and then PirateBay.org does not respond to your UDP requests, likely due to a firewall.
This can be verified with a TCP SYN based traceroute to port 80(which you know they allow). Heres one I did from a server with comcast.
TTL LFT trace to thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146):80/tcp
** [firewall] the next gateway may statefully inspect packets
1 [AS7016] [CABLE-1] 73.201.88.1 6.2/9.7ms
** [neglected] no reply packets received from TTLs 2 through 4
5 [AS7922] [COMCAST-16] te-0-4-0-1-cr01.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.129) 18.4/13.8ms
6 [ASN?] [GBLX-13] Te6-4.ar2.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.194.97) 14.6/25.3ms
7 [AS3549] [GBLX-8] port80.ge-2-0-0.407ar1.ARN1.gblx.net (207.138.144.102) 140.7/139.9ms
8 [AS16150] [83-RIPE] [target] thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146):80 143.3/142.9ms
Now the fact that it jumps about 110ms in one hop is a little odd, but that just shows GlobalCrossing isn't exactly top of the line.
And just for another datapoint, heres the (tail of) the same route using ICMP ECHO requests instead of UDP datagrams:
5 te-0-4-0-1-cr01.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (68.86.91.129) 13.598 ms 14.115 ms 13.300 ms
6 Te6-4.ar2.DCA3.gblx.net (67.17.194.97) 14.536 ms 13.284 ms 16.724 ms
7 port80.ge-2-0-0.407ar1.ARN1.gblx.net (207.138.144.102) 137.295 ms 135.119 ms 136.846 ms
8 thepiratebay.org (83.140.176.146) 135.577 ms 133.808 ms 131.285 ms
If the bus company was offering 20+seats for the price of one, I'd be upset with the bus company that they couldn't fulfill their offer.
Even if not, if the capacity is there not being used I'd rather SOMEONE fill it rather than bus around empty seats.
As long as you're using transportation as an analogy, what if all airline companies sold were unlimited travel subscriptions with the catch that its all on standby. Wouldn't you be a little upset if they started demanding more from you because you actually used the service, while still raking in money from people who don't? Key word being unlimited.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; If ISPs want me to pay more for actually using the bandwidth they sell me, anybody not using it should get to pay less. Every grandparent sitting on a 8megabit line that loads email and occasionally ebay once a week? They should be paying pennies.
As long as they're okay taking $50 from people who use 0.0001% of their line capacity, they better take $50 for me using ~80% of mine. Or start changing what they're advertising and selling, and price it reasonably.
Maybe try UDP? not exactly the best way to send a file, but I'd be curious if/how they deal with that. You can rig up an easy enough transfer with netcat:
server$ nc -l -u -p 1234 >file.tgz
client$ nc server.com -u 1234 file.tgz
Also interesting would be more elaborate tunneling like ipsec.
Because you're talking about awareness. You didn't need to see an ad for that mp3 player, someone could have accurately described it to you and you wanted one. Or you could have had a Diamond Rio 64mb mp3 player from 1999 and your imagination could have sprang from there on how it could be better.
Even if you got rid of childporn or hardcore pornography, people would still be aware of it. No more domination in porn? Hope you never see a maid or other servent while thinking about sex and connect the dots. Or see a 17 year old in a bikini. Or really anything that can become sexual (and anything can.)
Not to mention the explicit banning of it is enough awareness to create demand. You might not know who Traci Lords is or give a crap about her age, but once you announce to everyone that its not legal you just sparked interest.
You'd need to perpetually scrub all knowledge of it, eliminating anyone who exercised any imagination and came up with something forbidden on their own. Shit, anyone too drunk to stick it in the right hole is a liability.
Only for talking about it but not providing pictures.
The problem is anyone that actually knows their stuff is first off likely busy and can't take the time off work/potentially huge financial loss from fighting it, and second off is likely guilty on some level. Maybe not of the exact crime listed, but I find it hard to believe theres any knowledgable sysadmin types that have never broken copyright law (knowingly or not), considering how easy it is to do so. You pretty much have to go out of your way not to.
Your ip would still be under the hash that is for an illegal file -- They aren't just running netstat on the tracker box, the IP's are listed based on hash they asked for/advertised.
That, and the presence of legal content really doesn't help. Just ask Napster. Or mp3.com
I thought that was more to prevent people from abusing open FTP sites with the 'ftp bounce attack' All you had to do was upload a text file containing the commands you wanted, like
USER ADFGHDFKJGH KSDJGSDF KGH SDKF H
NICK GJKHDSKJGFS
JOIN #COOLKIDS
PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA
PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA
PRIVMSG #COOLKIDS: AAAAAAAAAAAAA
[etc]
then download it back off the server, but telling the server your ip/port you want to recieve the file is irc.whatever.org 6667
This of course depends on the ftp site allowing remote ips to be used, but most did and a lot still do.
It will probably run on DirectX10 with backwards support for Directx9. IIRC, thats what the xbox uses too, so you'll probably need to specify DX9 or 10 on x86 or x64. More specifically I imagine theres a lower end on the number of processor extensions needed, so probably x86/x64 with at least support for sse3, mmx, sse, etc.
Or you could just not be a douche and say "PC" like everyone else. Leave the specifics for the hardware requirements.
Not saying "PC only" is saying I'm so insecure about myself that I need to arbitrarily use my own terminology because whats popular does not make me stand out. Just like people saying "USian" or "GNU/Linux"
Couldn't agree more. XMLTerm's lack of a finished product saddens me more than just about any other dead project.
It would make web devel really easy (just let a pane spit its contents out to stdout to make sure they're good).
It would make console irc clients waste a bit less space (collapsed timestamps with javascript? Collapsed smaller font userlist?)
It could make console text editors AMAZING if done right -- GVim is a disappointment imo. It's just XTerm with tabs and a menubar-- The editor part itself is still stuck all being a single font, rather than being able to have a side split with ctags in it in a smaller font, code folding to a single pixel line or two instead of an entire row of -------------, and all kinds of other decoration that is missing.
Theres just so much potential for a GOOD xmlterm, but nobody has the time, interest, or skill to pick it up. (mark me down under no time and not enough skill).
Ideally you could script up entire gui applications like filebrowsers all based on xmlterm, where you start out with a normal file browser view of folders where clicking on one opens another, but at any point you could trigger a change of generating script so that its spitting out a table for 'details' view based on grepping of files for RCS tags or parsing svn info or whatever you want.
So much missed potential.
I disagree -- I have a about a 4 in 10 success rate on rapidshares new "type the letters that have a cat behind them" captcha. Surely someone could write an app to do better.
Thats actually a really painful restriction. If it wernt for that then someone could have written a wrapper around a poor and incomplete opensource physics engine that replicates Havoks api and then just let people link their own havok engine dll in to an open source game (without violating the gpl, so long as they don't redistribute).
Now you're kind of screwed on both ends.