"Physical or virtual, you need my permission to use my stuff. If you want to borrow something, get a login on my server, test my security, etc ASK ME"
While I can fully understand that, Do you really think a company like NYTimes would say yes? Of course not, they dont want anyone poking around at their system. Instead, they would go unpatched until someone hostile broke in adn actually did something with all of the customer info and write access to a very popular page-- for example, offer a 'nytimes news on your desktop' app thats just a simple trojan. Or use an activex exploit to force install it on most people running ie. Or take the site down right after a big terrorist attack.
Tell that to teekid, the kid(heh) who modified blaster and got busted. Supposidly it was because he told a friend who then told the authorities, but fail that.. Maybe pointing all owned machines to t33kid.com isnt the best idea? (hint: whois t33kid.com)
The difference is the engine cant always keep up. I've seen some absolutely stunning renders of counterstrike and natural selection models that look nothing like they do ingame, even with all the detail settings cranked up.
I agree. You see this constantly in first person shooters. I don't care how beautifuly you can get 3dsmax to render your models, if the game engine(halflife) cant compete whats the point?
"The BSD packages, and I guess this is true for gentoo and some other Linux-based systems as well, is that they mostly keep stuff as it was meant to be by the authors, except for patches neccessary to make it run at all."
Because BSD prefers being better for upstream maintainers than for end users. Why in the hell would I want to do a whereis every time I need to find some random binary that freebsd thinks should go in/usr/local/mysql/libexec/bin/ or whatever?
In deb, everything goes in standardized paths to save the end user time.
Too inefficient. Shoutcast is just mangled http -- Each client makes a new connection. For broadcasting you really need multicast (everyone gets the signal, but not everyone is 'listening')
" It really sounds like there's some kind of spinal disconnect going on here. Your fingers should have learned where all the keys are by now, and you should be able to hit them without even thinking about it."
I Agree, but maybe he just hasn't realised that. To the original poster: Try typing without looking some time. just see if you can do it. Your accuracy might be a bit off at first, but you'll get the hang of it. its all about knowing where the keys are, especially relative to the last one.
"Checking in with Steam will certainly have advantages -- like being able to access your keyboard/mouse config from any PC "
Nope. Config isn't saved remotely (though thats a great idea). Currently you still have to reconfig by hand, but then again if you have console access(steam forces it on) you can pretty easily reconf most hl mods. off the top of my head: bind w +forward bind s +back bind a +moveleft bind d +moveright bind q lastinv
Parent poster: " You probably can't convince me that the move by Universal -- a unit of hard-luck French water utility Vivendi -- doesn't have anything to do with Universal's pending aquisition by GE's NBC unit."
Article: " The company, with $6 billion in annual revenue, isn't part of Vivendi's entertainment assets that are slated to be merged with General Electric Co.'s ( GE) NBC."
win32 has been here for months now in various states of workingness. It's unstable, but less so than the newest version of wmp. If your copy doesnt work, wait a few days and download a new one. The one I'm using has been working nicely for 3 or 4 months now.
The best part is its just like the non-windows version -- it can still play quicktime/realplayer without loading their bloated apps. It also plays xvid/divx in high res cleanly which is needed for some game moveie, something WMP and Winamp both skip for 2 seconds every 10 just to resync.(note - I'm on an amd 1800+, 256mb ram, and a gf2mx400. not entirely the highest end system ever, but enough to decode simple video.)
" That's ridiculous. There are plenty of winners on this forum and I can assure you none of them has ever fucked a prom queen." You're thinking of whiners.
"You are talking about highlight films. Somebody who hates watching baseball will still find it entertaining to watch movie of that Randy Johnson fastball that hit that dove that's been floating around the web for a few years. That doesn't mean that they would enjoy sitting through a nine-inning Diamondbacks game" Thats true, but that is something thats being worked on. The problem is you need to find the line between 'Fun to watch' and 'Unfair to the competitors'. Currently theres a new rule being used in most tournaments called MR15, which is 15 MaxRounds -- meaning 15 rounds, then switch teams. Thats 30 rounds total, each up 3 minutes - not counting overtimes (6rounds there). Its the most fair to the competitors, but its really boring to sit there and watch. In contrast, CounterStrike stared out with 'CO20', or Charges only, 20minute rounds -- play for 20 minutes and only count the score you got attacking, then switch teams. That was much more fun to watch, but wasnt ery fair to the players.
But on the same token, I can sit and watch an entire counterstrike match, but I wouldnt want to watch a nine ining diamondbacks game. That kind of shows that counterstrike really is abel to be a spectator sport, its just not everybodies thing.
For the record, there was atleast 3000 people watching the SK.Swe vs Team9.freaks4u match at the CPL finals, not counting those in attendence at the CPL. Its not nearly as much as people watching the superbowl or anything, but its not a small number either.
"BTW: "Machinima" is supposed to refer to animated features made with game engines and tool boxes, like this stuff, not films of "professional" game-players in competition." Thanks, I never really heard a good definition for it.
Watch a good counterstrike match. If you're open minded, search for the videos: Hard Clan - Die Hard.avi ElectronicWarfare.wmv ADRENALINE2-divx. avi sunmanfinal.avi (Try google) These are just a few CS Movies that really show off how fun it can be to watch a pro play(some call it machenima or something.. I hate that name).
"And what about the players themselves. Can you see yourself (or anyone) worshiping someone for their their ability to click really fast for endless hours in front of a screen?"
I do worship some of them, not just for their ability to play, but for their ability to put up with all the stress and publicity.
"It's all about personalities and their ability to promote products." Theres plenty of people doing that now. Lots of clans are sponsored by companies that make mousepads and other things like that, and in turn they constantly promote it on irc, in interviews, and on their website.
" Since when is consumer profiling an invasion of privacy? If it wasn't for businesses and consumers, the system wouldn't work." Customer profiling became an invasion of privacy when the US PATRIOT act passed. Any commercial database is just as bad as a government ran one because they're forced to hand over any database when asked, and its a felony to refuse or to even tell someone you handed it over.
"And guess what kids, if we're able to read Slashdot, the system isn't that bad."
How long before reading slashdot automaticly marks us a 'possible hackers'?
"The 30 eighth- and ninth-grade girls at the camp, some from as far away as New York, used the skills they accumulated to design video games, which they presented on Friday in a game fair held at the camp's culmination."
The title is still misleading, the camp may of had a small game fair, but its more about coding games than playing them.
"And who's modding up someone called 'irc.goatse.cx troll'? Honestly, who throws a shoe?" Enough that I can post this with a karma bonus and not really worry that I'll get offtopic mods. See my posting history-- I'd be pegged at 50 if it wernt for the new comment system (or around 80 or so if we still had the old old karma system). This account was really more of a test to see how impartial moderators are-- crapflood it until I post at -1, then start posting real insightful comments and see if I can recover. Suprisingly enough, most mods don't descriminate based on name, and some are even wise enough to browse at -1.
How is this at all related to Video Games? From the site: "Campers will spend the week of camp working on a team project, learning about various enginering, math, and science disciplines, participating in cool hands-on demonstrations, and meeting lots of other young women who share their interest in math and science. Check out the Highlights to learn more about the structures camp and about the computer science camp." CompSci != Games.
It's just a clever acronym, but if you read the first page of the link(or even the freaking summary) you'll see it has nothing to do with video games.
(Incase they try to silently edit it, the title was originaly "Teenage Girls Get Video Game Summer Camp")
" I guess even if they do join in on FPS or other action types they are attracted by the strategic aspect rather than the sheer joy of killing."
And the social aspect. I play counterstrike a lot, and was friends with the leader of an all girl clan(XS-Girlz/Angels if anyones seen them). While some of them were talented, they all seemed to enjoy the social aspect of the game more than anything.
I dont know about revolutionary. Thats the basis behind multiplayer games currently -- In counterstrike, I hear your footsteps from the other side of a wall, so I shoot the wall and hit them before they even know where I am. Even back in the quakworld/tf days you'd hear your enemys from around corners and know what to expect (You hear a rocketlauncher, you know theres a soldier coming. Hear an assault cannon, know theres a hwguy.)
As far as AI targeting humans based on sound, PodBot for counterstrike does that currently, as does the halflife grunts I believe. Hell, Doom's monsters could activate based on sound.
You forget, when you get truely high-tech you enter the 'right tool for the job' mindset. I get solid fps in all the games I want to play (and believe me, theres plenty), so I have no reason to upgrade. Theres no point in going into excess, and the high end tech sector knows that. Thats why I see 486s and pentium1s as mailservers all the time.
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"Physical or virtual, you need my permission to use my stuff. If you want to borrow something, get a login on my server, test my security, etc ASK ME"
While I can fully understand that, Do you really think a company like NYTimes would say yes? Of course not, they dont want anyone poking around at their system. Instead, they would go unpatched until someone hostile broke in adn actually did something with all of the customer info and write access to a very popular page-- for example, offer a 'nytimes news on your desktop' app thats just a simple trojan. Or use an activex exploit to force install it on most people running ie. Or take the site down right after a big terrorist attack.
Tell that to teekid, the kid(heh) who modified blaster and got busted. Supposidly it was because he told a friend who then told the authorities, but fail that.. Maybe pointing all owned machines to t33kid.com isnt the best idea? (hint: whois t33kid.com)
The difference is the engine cant always keep up. I've seen some absolutely stunning renders of counterstrike and natural selection models that look nothing like they do ingame, even with all the detail settings cranked up.
I agree. You see this constantly in first person shooters. I don't care how beautifuly you can get 3dsmax to render your models, if the game engine(halflife) cant compete whats the point?
"The BSD packages, and I guess this is true for gentoo and some other Linux-based systems as well, is that they mostly keep stuff as it was meant to be by the authors, except for patches neccessary to make it run at all."
/usr/local/mysql/libexec/bin/ or whatever?
Because BSD prefers being better for upstream maintainers than for end users. Why in the hell would I want to do a whereis every time I need to find some random binary that freebsd thinks should go in
In deb, everything goes in standardized paths to save the end user time.
Too inefficient. Shoutcast is just mangled http -- Each client makes a new connection. For broadcasting you really need multicast (everyone gets the signal, but not everyone is 'listening')
" It really sounds like there's some kind of spinal disconnect going on here. Your fingers should have learned where all the keys are by now, and you should be able to hit them without even thinking about it."
I Agree, but maybe he just hasn't realised that.
To the original poster: Try typing without looking some time. just see if you can do it. Your accuracy might be a bit off at first, but you'll get the hang of it. its all about knowing where the keys are, especially relative to the last one.
"Checking in with Steam will certainly have advantages -- like being able to access your keyboard/mouse config from any PC "
Nope. Config isn't saved remotely (though thats a great idea). Currently you still have to reconfig by hand, but then again if you have console access(steam forces it on) you can pretty easily reconf most hl mods. off the top of my head:
bind w +forward
bind s +back
bind a +moveleft
bind d +moveright
bind q lastinv
other than that, defaults are fine.
Parent poster: " You probably can't convince me that the move by Universal -- a unit of hard-luck French water utility Vivendi -- doesn't have anything to do with Universal's pending aquisition by GE's NBC unit."
Article: " The company, with $6 billion in annual revenue, isn't part of Vivendi's entertainment assets that are slated to be merged with General Electric Co.'s ( GE) NBC."
Because when theres an exploit out that lets you 'run code as root', theyre usually talking about shellcode. feed it this and you get a rootshell.
win32 has been here for months now in various states of workingness. It's unstable, but less so than the newest version of wmp. If your copy doesnt work, wait a few days and download a new one. The one I'm using has been working nicely for 3 or 4 months now.
The best part is its just like the non-windows version -- it can still play quicktime/realplayer without loading their bloated apps. It also plays xvid/divx in high res cleanly which is needed for some game moveie, something WMP and Winamp both skip for 2 seconds every 10 just to resync.(note - I'm on an amd 1800+, 256mb ram, and a gf2mx400. not entirely the highest end system ever, but enough to decode simple video.)
" That's ridiculous. There are plenty of winners on this forum and I can assure you none of them has ever fucked a prom queen."
You're thinking of whiners.
"You are talking about highlight films. Somebody who hates watching baseball will still find it entertaining to watch movie of that Randy Johnson fastball that hit that dove that's been floating around the web for a few years. That doesn't mean that they would enjoy sitting through a nine-inning Diamondbacks game"
Thats true, but that is something thats being worked on. The problem is you need to find the line between 'Fun to watch' and 'Unfair to the competitors'. Currently theres a new rule being used in most tournaments called MR15, which is 15 MaxRounds -- meaning 15 rounds, then switch teams. Thats 30 rounds total, each up 3 minutes - not counting overtimes (6rounds there). Its the most fair to the competitors, but its really boring to sit there and watch. In contrast, CounterStrike stared out with 'CO20', or Charges only, 20minute rounds -- play for 20 minutes and only count the score you got attacking, then switch teams. That was much more fun to watch, but wasnt ery fair to the players.
But on the same token, I can sit and watch an entire counterstrike match, but I wouldnt want to watch a nine ining diamondbacks game. That kind of shows that counterstrike really is abel to be a spectator sport, its just not everybodies thing.
For the record, there was atleast 3000 people watching the SK.Swe vs Team9.freaks4u match at the CPL finals, not counting those in attendence at the CPL. Its not nearly as much as people watching the superbowl or anything, but its not a small number either.
"BTW: "Machinima" is supposed to refer to animated features made with game engines and tool boxes, like this stuff, not films of "professional" game-players in competition." Thanks, I never really heard a good definition for it.
ftp://hardmovie.kicks-ass.net/Hard.Clan-Die.Hard.X viD-sozou.zip
http://www.mfavp.com/electronicwarfare.html
Those are the two best, Not sure where the rest ended up. demohq.com has some good movies(check their top downloads).
Watch a good counterstrike match. If you're open minded, search for the videos:. avi
Hard Clan - Die Hard.avi
ElectronicWarfare.wmv
ADRENALINE2-divx
sunmanfinal.avi
(Try google)
These are just a few CS Movies that really show off how fun it can be to watch a pro play(some call it machenima or something.. I hate that name).
"And what about the players themselves. Can you see yourself (or anyone) worshiping someone for their their ability to click really fast for endless hours in front of a screen?"
I do worship some of them, not just for their ability to play, but for their ability to put up with all the stress and publicity.
"It's all about personalities and their ability to promote products."
Theres plenty of people doing that now. Lots of clans are sponsored by companies that make mousepads and other things like that, and in turn they constantly promote it on irc, in interviews, and on their website.
" Since when is consumer profiling an invasion of privacy? If it wasn't for businesses and consumers, the system wouldn't work."
Customer profiling became an invasion of privacy when the US PATRIOT act passed. Any commercial database is just as bad as a government ran one because they're forced to hand over any database when asked, and its a felony to refuse or to even tell someone you handed it over.
"And guess what kids, if we're able to read Slashdot, the system isn't that bad."
How long before reading slashdot automaticly marks us a 'possible hackers'?
A few. And how is it lame? Slashdot forces you to use http:// for homepages making anything else have to be misleading.
"The 30 eighth- and ninth-grade girls at the camp, some from as far away as New York, used the skills they accumulated to design video games, which they presented on Friday in a game fair held at the camp's culmination."
The title is still misleading, the camp may of had a small game fair, but its more about coding games than playing them.
"And who's modding up someone called 'irc.goatse.cx troll'? Honestly, who throws a shoe?"
Enough that I can post this with a karma bonus and not really worry that I'll get offtopic mods. See my posting history-- I'd be pegged at 50 if it wernt for the new comment system (or around 80 or so if we still had the old old karma system). This account was really more of a test to see how impartial moderators are-- crapflood it until I post at -1, then start posting real insightful comments and see if I can recover. Suprisingly enough, most mods don't descriminate based on name, and some are even wise enough to browse at -1.
You wasted a trip to the clinic for that? bah! back in my day we just tied it in a knot.
How is this at all related to Video Games?
From the site:
"Campers will spend the week of camp working on a team project, learning about various enginering, math, and science disciplines, participating in cool hands-on demonstrations, and meeting lots of other young women who share their interest in math and science. Check out the Highlights to learn more about the structures camp and about the computer science camp."
CompSci != Games.
It's just a clever acronym, but if you read the first page of the link(or even the freaking summary) you'll see it has nothing to do with video games.
(Incase they try to silently edit it, the title was originaly "Teenage Girls Get Video Game Summer Camp")
" I guess even if they do join in on FPS or other action types they are attracted by the strategic aspect rather than the sheer joy of killing."
And the social aspect. I play counterstrike a lot, and was friends with the leader of an all girl clan(XS-Girlz/Angels if anyones seen them). While some of them were talented, they all seemed to enjoy the social aspect of the game more than anything.
". If I sign all my email with my private key, everyone in the world knows that it is me who sent it, and I cannot deny it"
Thats fine until your private key leaks. Didnt Microsofts private key leak a while back? (refering https, not pgp, but the problem is still there).
I dont know about revolutionary. Thats the basis behind multiplayer games currently -- In counterstrike, I hear your footsteps from the other side of a wall, so I shoot the wall and hit them before they even know where I am. Even back in the quakworld/tf days you'd hear your enemys from around corners and know what to expect (You hear a rocketlauncher, you know theres a soldier coming. Hear an assault cannon, know theres a hwguy.)
As far as AI targeting humans based on sound, PodBot for counterstrike does that currently, as does the halflife grunts I believe. Hell, Doom's monsters could activate based on sound.
It is a nice feature either way.
You forget, when you get truely high-tech you enter the 'right tool for the job' mindset. I get solid fps in all the games I want to play (and believe me, theres plenty), so I have no reason to upgrade. Theres no point in going into excess, and the high end tech sector knows that. Thats why I see 486s and pentium1s as mailservers all the time.