I disagree. Look at things like worldforge or cube. The trick to writting games that will be used for years in the free software community, is you have to start by writing games which can be extended.
You have to start with the engine or framework, like quake3, worldforge, cube ultima 1 remake etc. Then people can make mods for your game and those mods become popular for a year or two etc.
You can write a tux racer. You can write a puzzle game. But you have to realize those will have a short shelf life. If you write a worldforge or a nice gaming development toolkit/ platform, especially for the mmorpg scene, you may see you work live on for a long time.
We are aiming to produce a slower but far more sustainable business, smaller teams, maybe taking longer to produce a port
Aiii! caramba. IF loki was releasing ports of 3,4,5 year old games... What the hell are they going to be releasing if they plan to take longer to produce them? This guy doesn't get it. Most gamers, even on linux, want the games they want ASAP. Take any length of time to release it over the windows versions and your sales start going thru the floor.
if it's not the people who distribute the source code as many people are saying, then it's gonna be the linux distros like redhat for actually selling the infringing product.
I think kde has reached the point where a lot of the essential stuff and a lot of luxuries are done.
Where does it go now? It has virtually nothing left to learn from windows or osX. Maybe some minor usability issues, but from now on it's mostly undiscovered territory. A great opportunity for the project. Free software is a great way of tying things together and coming up with new ideas. kde needs to keep taking full advantage of other free software projects as it has in the past. Look at how it integrates seamlessly with ogg vorbis for example. How cool is it that you can pop in a cd and suddenly kde provides the tools for you to easily make full use of another great FS project? Teaming up like that is great.
Microsoft would like everyone to think they have the market on innovation cornered. They don't.
What's next for kde? My suggestion is a think-tank. We need a kde think tank to come up with brand new directions to take kde. New features. Things no one has thought of or implemented. How to take the destkop and make in more productive, less hostile, prettier. This is where I think the future of kde should be. Trying out ideas that are way out there and at the same time making the details perfect.
Kde is paused to become one of the killer apps of the future for linux. The framework is there. The libraries and IPC are there. Everything needed to make it on par with any other D.E. is there. Now let's blow everyone away. Let's give them something that will get people so excited they will migrate to linux because they have to have it.
If I may put in my $0.02, I would love more progress on the python bindings for qt and kde. The documentation out there is very poor, the bindings not the easiest to install and theres not much guidance for the less experienced. Python is an incredible language for developing apps FAST and easily. QT is a great toolkit and kde a great framework. If the documentation was up to par... I could see people suddenly getting very productive and creative with kde apps. I know this isn't a radical idea. I just think it would bring a great deal of creativity into the kde developer midst.
If they don't want to broadcast their movies, fine! let them do it. Let's see them come back squirming later on. We can always find other sources of movies.
is for the developers to start pgp signing their shit. If someone compromises the machine to where they can replace the tarball with a trojaned one, they can obviously replace the md5 sums also.
That goes for source distributions like gentoo also. What happens if someone puts out a dirty ebuild?
I'm sorry but md5 sums aren't enough security for me. I run gentoo and I was taken aback by the announcement. Whats to stop the attacker from placing his own md5 sums on the ftp with the trojaned tarball?
GPG signatures should be incorporated into gentoo.
Traffic was a killer. I got out of work, by the time I picked up my friend and went to jillians ( WHO picked jillians on a day the redsox play? thats just silly) figured out the meeting wasn't there, then found the second meeting place; I was 2 hrs late. I didn't like the second location. I think everyone had left by the time I got there. Sorry. I rolled in and rolled out.
Here goes my karma( gulp). Yeah it should have fucking gone.
software companies need to be paid and you cannot pirate or steal their work. You're right, I cannot "PIRATE" or "STEAL" their work because it's not piracy OR theft. It's called copyright infringement, get it right.
Script kiddies are far from their minds.
Really? Then why are they including them in all their statistics?! Bullshit, they count every single mofucka out there who is using any kind of software unpaid for INCLUDING free software. Thats the title of this/. story numbnutz.
Using someone else's software without compensation is stealing. Again, No, it's not. It's called copyright infringement and the fact that you're DYING to associate it with a more serious activity does not impress me. In fact it makes you very suspect in my mind.
I know many of you reading this are college students who are poor and are scoffing at this but realize that hundreds of programmers at these software companies need a paycheck. HAH! you shouldn't be including poor college students either since we can't afford any software. Don't preach to me buddy. No, I don't "realize programmers need a paycheck". If the stuff they are doing isn't cutting it in the market and isn't profitable, that's not my fault and i don't wanna pay software taxes to support unsound buisness models. No company DESERVES to be paid. Programmers deserve to be paid by their company, not by me. If their company is an unsound buisness, they better look for other employment.
How would you like it if your employer only partially compensated you for writing code? I wouldn't, and I would get another job and sue the fuck out of them. Don't blame the general public when you don't pay your staff buddy.
All that the BSA does is make sure the software companies are adequately compensated for their particular licenses. NO, that's not all they do. Read the fucking/. story. They LIE like a mufucka. They lobby for laws that I wouldn't wish on anyone. They blackmail companies. They get court warrants at the drop of a hat to force themselves in your buisness.
They do not have the intention of ripping off the public. CHRIST almighty! Ripping off the public is what they do, it's their job and if they could do it any better they would be in heaven. Ripping off the public is the ultimate goal for ALL corporate greeders.
If you think its too expensive or the license is outrages, then don't buy it. Purchase Linux or cheaper alternatives. AMEN! that's what this story is all about. Most of us do this here! Not only that but we're pissed because we get fudged into counting as copyright infringers in the BSA's statistics.
On another note, comments like the one I'm replying to are a prime example of marketing. And for the BSA no less. *shrugs* I just wanna remind/.'ers to keep their eyes open and think for themselves.
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You have to start with the engine or framework, like quake3, worldforge, cube ultima 1 remake etc. Then people can make mods for your game and those mods become popular for a year or two etc.
You can write a tux racer. You can write a puzzle game. But you have to realize those will have a short shelf life. If you write a worldforge or a nice gaming development toolkit/ platform, especially for the mmorpg scene, you may see you work live on for a long time.
Aiii! caramba. IF loki was releasing ports of 3,4,5 year old games... What the hell are they going to be releasing if they plan to take longer to produce them? This guy doesn't get it. Most gamers, even on linux, want the games they want ASAP. Take any length of time to release it over the windows versions and your sales start going thru the floor.
if it's not the people who distribute the source code as many people are saying, then it's gonna be the linux distros like redhat for actually selling the infringing product.
Where does it go now? It has virtually nothing left to learn from windows or osX. Maybe some minor usability issues, but from now on it's mostly undiscovered territory. A great opportunity for the project. Free software is a great way of tying things together and coming up with new ideas. kde needs to keep taking full advantage of other free software projects as it has in the past. Look at how it integrates seamlessly with ogg vorbis for example. How cool is it that you can pop in a cd and suddenly kde provides the tools for you to easily make full use of another great FS project? Teaming up like that is great.
Microsoft would like everyone to think they have the market on innovation cornered. They don't.
What's next for kde? My suggestion is a think-tank. We need a kde think tank to come up with brand new directions to take kde. New features. Things no one has thought of or implemented. How to take the destkop and make in more productive, less hostile, prettier. This is where I think the future of kde should be. Trying out ideas that are way out there and at the same time making the details perfect.
Kde is paused to become one of the killer apps of the future for linux. The framework is there. The libraries and IPC are there. Everything needed to make it on par with any other D.E. is there. Now let's blow everyone away. Let's give them something that will get people so excited they will migrate to linux because they have to have it.
If I may put in my $0.02, I would love more progress on the python bindings for qt and kde. The documentation out there is very poor, the bindings not the easiest to install and theres not much guidance for the less experienced. Python is an incredible language for developing apps FAST and easily. QT is a great toolkit and kde a great framework. If the documentation was up to par... I could see people suddenly getting very productive and creative with kde apps. I know this isn't a radical idea. I just think it would bring a great deal of creativity into the kde developer midst.
That's gonna be interesting since websites weren't around before the 20th century and we're now in the 21st.
at umass amherst they give those out for free. ask oit.
If they don't want to broadcast their movies, fine! let them do it. Let's see them come back squirming later on. We can always find other sources of movies.
That goes for source distributions like gentoo also. What happens if someone puts out a dirty ebuild?
GPG signatures should be incorporated into gentoo.
Traffic was a killer. I got out of work, by the time I picked up my friend and went to jillians ( WHO picked jillians on a day the redsox play? thats just silly) figured out the meeting wasn't there, then found the second meeting place; I was 2 hrs late. I didn't like the second location. I think everyone had left by the time I got there. Sorry. I rolled in and rolled out.
Yeah it should have fucking gone.
software companies need to be paid and you cannot pirate or steal their work.
You're right, I cannot "PIRATE" or "STEAL" their work because it's not piracy OR theft. It's called copyright infringement, get it right.
Script kiddies are far from their minds. /. story numbnutz.
Really? Then why are they including them in all their statistics?! Bullshit, they count every single mofucka out there who is using any kind of software unpaid for INCLUDING free software. Thats the title of this
Using someone else's software without compensation is stealing.
Again, No, it's not. It's called copyright infringement and the fact that you're DYING to associate it with a more serious activity does not impress me. In fact it makes you very suspect in my mind.
I know many of you reading this are college students who are poor and are scoffing at this but realize that hundreds of programmers at these software companies need a paycheck.
HAH! you shouldn't be including poor college students either since we can't afford any software. Don't preach to me buddy. No, I don't "realize programmers need a paycheck". If the stuff they are doing isn't cutting it in the market and isn't profitable, that's not my fault and i don't wanna pay software taxes to support unsound buisness models. No company DESERVES to be paid. Programmers deserve to be paid by their company, not by me. If their company is an unsound buisness, they better look for other employment.
How would you like it if your employer only partially compensated you for writing code?
I wouldn't, and I would get another job and sue the fuck out of them. Don't blame the general public when you don't pay your staff buddy.
All that the BSA does is make sure the software companies are adequately compensated for their particular licenses. /. story. They LIE like a mufucka. They lobby for laws that I wouldn't wish on anyone. They blackmail companies. They get court warrants at the drop of a hat to force themselves in your buisness.
NO, that's not all they do. Read the fucking
They do not have the intention of ripping off the public.
CHRIST almighty! Ripping off the public is what they do, it's their job and if they could do it any better they would be in heaven. Ripping off the public is the ultimate goal for ALL corporate greeders.
If you think its too expensive or the license is outrages, then don't buy it. Purchase Linux or cheaper alternatives.
AMEN! that's what this story is all about. Most of us do this here! Not only that but we're pissed because we get fudged into counting as copyright infringers in the BSA's statistics.
On another note, comments like the one I'm replying to are a prime example of marketing. And for the BSA no less. *shrugs* I just wanna remind /.'ers to keep their eyes open and think for themselves.