Don't know how long the shuttle design has been around for sure, but the Popular Science issue I found in my school's trash bin was apparently here since our founding and it was announcing the new re-usable space shuttle. The shuttle was made public within a few years of the Moon landing... pretty scary in those terms.
I can't speak to the "view-image" feature... I know IE doesn't even have it. I use it in Mozilla all the time to check links and to force an image to reload that's behaving improperly. Sometimes I even save images, but since most web imagery is posted directly to the public domain, I don't see a problem with it.
Caching an image is defninitely in-line with fair-use. It is a copy of content for no other purpose than to make the viewing of that content better. It most certainly will not cause a decline in sales for the image provider. It is unlikely anyone would pull images out of their cache anyway (take a browse through yours, and you'll see what I mean... a lot of clutter).
As a side-note, I'm a web-comic artist and I have a lot of copyrighted images on my site. I have difficulty siding with the artist in this case, though. I provide images at a reduced (but still very legible) resolution. Feel free to copy, trade, and use my stuff as you see fit. Just don't claim it's yours. I'm not exactly a great artist, though, so I don't have to worry so much.
What is the 9th Circuit anyway? Is it a court system for a geographical region? The 9th tier down from the Supreme Court? The 9th Circuit Court in order of date founded?
I'm starting to feel lost, like all those survey takers who didn't know what MHz was.
I'm trying this exploit now on an iMac 600MHz G3 at work with OS 10.2.6. It's not working... or at least not yet. I stopped hitting ctrl-Y about 3 minutes ago and it's still trying to catch up. Boy do I hate this OS.
heh... not if you bootleg. Free beats $129 any day of the week. And don't get all high-and-mighty on me about this point. I'm sure you agree that XP Pro isn't worth $300.
even though I have no stake in this, I've gotta admit that I'm really disappointed in these guys. Normally, they'd only have to worry about the DMCA. Hacking an unshared system you own is not a crime in any way. Telling people about your experiences isn't either. The only concern is that this technology can circumvent systems designed to enforce copyrights, thereby making it a violation of the DMCA. It does have significant legal uses, and is only presented in such a manner.
Then they go and do this whole threaten/blackmail/extortion thing... doesn't really paint them in a good light. They'd be able to really champion this cause, if they didn't have to go and act like a bunch of script kiddies. Getting Linux on the X-Box without any hardware hacks is an amazing accomplishment, worthy praise and acknowledgement. Unfortunately, anyone who reports on this is gonna focus on the offensive stance they took and paint them as menaces.
And before I complain about them having egos anymore, I should digress and say that if I was good enough to hack an x-box with just software, I'd be pretty self-assured, too.
If you've got Mac OSX, find a copy of Fire. I haven't tried it yet, but my co-worker has been using it. It's an IM client that (I think) works on the AIM network and does the translation in the client program, not on a server. It seems a little slow, and he says it doesn't handle Russian very well, but it's most definitely prior art.
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mmm.... smells like burnt silicon. I expect I'll be impressed later when I see it. Until then, I guess I actually have to read or something.... blah
Seriously, what the heck is all this "renting" BS? Assume you work for a company that rents e-mail addresses, but the privacy policy just says you won't sell them. You rent to another company, and after a set period, they're still using it without paying you.
(A) How do you know they're still using the address? (short of putting a few of your own spam catchers in the list)
(B) How do you ever take them to court? Would it be worth telling all your customers that you lied to them in your privacy policy just to get the rent money from the delinquent company?
oh, and my method (since everyone's listing theirs) is to give a false name with my address that I most likely will never send mail to or recieve from. In my case, I use Jorge Posada, because if you're dumb enough to believe Mr. Posada has a hotmail account, you deserve to be instantly filtered. And bonus: not too many people out there named Jorge, so filters are easy.
Well, not paranoia, but you do seem to have a distortion of reality. Who says the school boards really care that much at all? Who says this is much of an uprising or revolt at all? A few network administrators are trying Linux in a scholastic environment. As long as it works, and they weren't ordered not to, that's pretty much their perrogative.
But maybe I'm giving school boards too much credit... assuming they won't be hard asses simply for the sake of being hard asses.
It's not as impressive as you think. 220 would pretty much do it for half a highschool (in my estimate, which could be very wrong), but imagine how much data throughput that would take. Many schools are underfunded and are still running on hub-based 10 Mbit networks. For many schools, even if they could get the grant for dual processor server, they could never run it on their network.
Think of all of the lucky kids who are getting to know Linux at a young age and take that knowledge and (hopefully) preference into adulthood.
This, of course, assumes that Linux is a good thing. And that these kids will get a chance to know it. Every Windows PC at a school needs to be locked down to prevent tampering and just general mis-use by curious do-it-yourself kids. What makes Linux any different than OSX or Windows if the kids are only allowed to launch certain applications, and never allowed to use the actual underlying OS tools? Basically, we're getting kids acclimated to various program launchers, which is by far the easiest part of an OS to learn. The OSX dock is anything but intuitive, but even that only takes like 2 minutes of messing around with it to figure it out.
And as far as Linux being a good thing, I'm tired of that being assumed. Linux is an OS with pros and cons, just like every other OS, and instead of immediately assuming that world + dog should be using it we should look specifically at the students and discuss what the positive and negative effects of a Linux shift are.
I will agree, though, that there is no excuse for running Windows for firewall and routing, and Linux would work well for their web and application servers. The low price tag is moot (as these schools already have licenses to MS products, you don't get your money back for switching), but the stability and speed is a huge advantage.
Well, it may be written poorly, but it's extremely biased, that meets my expectations about Linux Journal. Not an attack on Linux, but I wouldn't read Windows magazine for news either. Or MacAddict *shudder*. As a rule of thumb, I don't trust news reported by evangelists.
I would agree with that, but I started out using MS-DOS and then Apple IIe's (moved to a poorer school district), then eventually in high school Win 95 came out.
There was no learning involved to go to Win95, and I've pretty much forgotten everything I learned from Apple IIe. My only reason for remembering anything at all in DOS is that I never really knew that much about it to start with (other than launching stuff).
A diverse computer education seems like a great idea, but I'm young enough to have been in these classes recently. It's always like 5 people who have it at home who kinda push the other kids through. Nobody really learns much because those who are interested are too busy teaching the others.
Perhaps we'd all be a little more inclined to shell out the extra dough if any of these extra features were being used. Heck, I can't remember the last game I played that used DOT3 bump mapping (actually, I think I've only seen it in 3d mark 2001), and that's been around for several years.
As far as I see it, I can't justify spending $400 on a card for a system on which I get maybe 1 new game each year. The last PC game that was able to hold my interest for more than a few seconds was Quake 3. I consider that to be sad.
speaking of the AIW... have they released a version yet that will encode in Mpeg2 and just leave the freaking "interlaced" flag set to true? I've been looking for a program to tear apart an Mpeg2 stream and change that one little setting with no success.
It seems to be readily apparent in the Radeon screenshot (at least the full quality AA screenshot). I use it all the time, it makes 640x480 gaming look a heck of a lot better (which is good for games that are old and don't support higher resolutions). Ultimately, though, it's just one more feature for the list on the side of the box.
I agree... the only time I wanna hear it is "I have xxx card that is being reviewed in the above article and here are my honest impressions, both positive and negative." For example, whe I notice a bunch of people have xxx card and can't get the drivers working, I tend to shy away from it.
Of course, every card has on-board software that actually draws the stuff (pardon my techno-jargon), perhaps ATi is just writing a better on-board 3D engine.
When the Gamecube was being developed, Nintendo went with Art-X (a small graphics firm that split from SGI) to design their graphics processor. During the devlopment cycle, ATi bought Art-X, hence every Gamecube having a little ATi sticker in the bottom right corner. My supposition (which is probably false) is that ATi got some new blood, including the Art-X people, who re-wrote their base-level graphics routines and helped them design better silicon specifically to run those routines.
I just hope that Nintendo sticks with them for the Gamecube's successor. Imagine what a Radeon 9800 could do if every developer who worked on it used it's proprietary features.:)
Your response prompted me to do some reading on the topic and I realized that my assumptions about Mpeg4 were based upon incorrect information and ignorance. So, I withdraw my previous comment.
Well, I can't comment on whether my Duron 600 can encode Mpeg4 in realtime, I do know that my G3 600 MHz iMac with 384 MB of RAM absolutely chokes on every task I hand it. This leads me to believe then, that if a G3 600MHz can encode Mpeg4 in realtime, then OSX has some serious issues with processor and memory mis-management. Maybe it will get faster with Panther, but my office sure as hell doesn't have a couple hundred to throw away upgrading us to a new OS.
But all of this is irrelevant to me in the context of the G5. Lord knows I can't afford a G5, much less an Opteron to compare it to.
my little iMac (optimized pretty well) can't keep up with my pathetic 30 wpm typing speed if someone's uploading files via Samba. It just doesn't have the processing power (though it has plenty of ram) to handle Dreamweaver and Samba simultaneously. But my little iMac is ancient hardware, there's no reason it should run fast.
And ANY Pentium class x86 can encode MPEG4 in real time, just depends on the codec. Apple uses one similar to MJPEG, so of course it encodes in real time. My fsking digicam encodes that in realtime. But on my Duron 600, at 320x240, I can encode DivX at > 45 fps. I think with MJPEG the bottleneck would be trying to read and write the video from the disk.
Remember that MPEG4 is a framework, not a video codec. Like AVI is a framework, and Quicktime. (Although Quicktime usually only uses one of 2 codecs: Sorensen or DV) I have no doubt that your iMac does fine by you and is a well kept quality machine, but to show its speed in encoding video, you have to state the video codec, not the framework.
hrm... that's a little vague... I wish I knew what the "Competitor" system is. Is it dual processor (like the G5 it's compared to)? Is it using a Radeon 9800 Pro also? If so, Apple should say so... it will make their benchmark stronger. If not, they should pull the stat, as it's intentionally skewed.
After all, my Duron 600 wiht a Radeon runs Quake 3 faster than my Athlon 1200 with an S3 Verge... doesn't make the Duron better.
Yeah... that $1 difference is a terrible example, but both do use misleading prices. "Starting at" is a buzzphrase that just shouldn't exist. Those wonderful G5 prices? That's for a barebones tower. What good is "up to" 8 GB of RAM when it costs you $2k to get the model with 256 MB? To get your system up to something worth bragging about, you're probably talking about a $3k machine in the end.
I know it's an unfair comparrison, but $3k goes a very very very long way at a computer show, or on Pricewatch for that matter.
I'm a generic spare-parts PC user because I refuse to pay Dell, Gateway, or Apple a premium price just so I can defend my purchace to message board script kiddies.
So what's my hardware? I run what I run, and it keeps me happy. The underlying silicon is largely inconsequential.
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Don't know how long the shuttle design has been around for sure, but the Popular Science issue I found in my school's trash bin was apparently here since our founding and it was announcing the new re-usable space shuttle. The shuttle was made public within a few years of the Moon landing... pretty scary in those terms.
I can't speak to the "view-image" feature... I know IE doesn't even have it. I use it in Mozilla all the time to check links and to force an image to reload that's behaving improperly. Sometimes I even save images, but since most web imagery is posted directly to the public domain, I don't see a problem with it.
Caching an image is defninitely in-line with fair-use. It is a copy of content for no other purpose than to make the viewing of that content better. It most certainly will not cause a decline in sales for the image provider. It is unlikely anyone would pull images out of their cache anyway (take a browse through yours, and you'll see what I mean... a lot of clutter).
As a side-note, I'm a web-comic artist and I have a lot of copyrighted images on my site. I have difficulty siding with the artist in this case, though. I provide images at a reduced (but still very legible) resolution. Feel free to copy, trade, and use my stuff as you see fit. Just don't claim it's yours. I'm not exactly a great artist, though, so I don't have to worry so much.
What is the 9th Circuit anyway? Is it a court system for a geographical region? The 9th tier down from the Supreme Court? The 9th Circuit Court in order of date founded?
I'm starting to feel lost, like all those survey takers who didn't know what MHz was.
I'm trying this exploit now on an iMac 600MHz G3 at work with OS 10.2.6. It's not working... or at least not yet. I stopped hitting ctrl-Y about 3 minutes ago and it's still trying to catch up. Boy do I hate this OS.
heh... not if you bootleg. Free beats $129 any day of the week. And don't get all high-and-mighty on me about this point. I'm sure you agree that XP Pro isn't worth $300.
even though I have no stake in this, I've gotta admit that I'm really disappointed in these guys. Normally, they'd only have to worry about the DMCA. Hacking an unshared system you own is not a crime in any way. Telling people about your experiences isn't either. The only concern is that this technology can circumvent systems designed to enforce copyrights, thereby making it a violation of the DMCA. It does have significant legal uses, and is only presented in such a manner.
Then they go and do this whole threaten/blackmail/extortion thing... doesn't really paint them in a good light. They'd be able to really champion this cause, if they didn't have to go and act like a bunch of script kiddies. Getting Linux on the X-Box without any hardware hacks is an amazing accomplishment, worthy praise and acknowledgement. Unfortunately, anyone who reports on this is gonna focus on the offensive stance they took and paint them as menaces.
And before I complain about them having egos anymore, I should digress and say that if I was good enough to hack an x-box with just software, I'd be pretty self-assured, too.
If you've got Mac OSX, find a copy of Fire. I haven't tried it yet, but my co-worker has been using it. It's an IM client that (I think) works on the AIM network and does the translation in the client program, not on a server. It seems a little slow, and he says it doesn't handle Russian very well, but it's most definitely prior art.
mmm.... smells like burnt silicon. I expect I'll be impressed later when I see it. Until then, I guess I actually have to read or something.... blah
Seriously, what the heck is all this "renting" BS? Assume you work for a company that rents e-mail addresses, but the privacy policy just says you won't sell them. You rent to another company, and after a set period, they're still using it without paying you.
(A) How do you know they're still using the address? (short of putting a few of your own spam catchers in the list)
(B) How do you ever take them to court? Would it be worth telling all your customers that you lied to them in your privacy policy just to get the rent money from the delinquent company?
oh, and my method (since everyone's listing theirs) is to give a false name with my address that I most likely will never send mail to or recieve from. In my case, I use Jorge Posada, because if you're dumb enough to believe Mr. Posada has a hotmail account, you deserve to be instantly filtered. And bonus: not too many people out there named Jorge, so filters are easy.
Well, not paranoia, but you do seem to have a distortion of reality. Who says the school boards really care that much at all? Who says this is much of an uprising or revolt at all? A few network administrators are trying Linux in a scholastic environment. As long as it works, and they weren't ordered not to, that's pretty much their perrogative.
But maybe I'm giving school boards too much credit... assuming they won't be hard asses simply for the sake of being hard asses.
It's not as impressive as you think. 220 would pretty much do it for half a highschool (in my estimate, which could be very wrong), but imagine how much data throughput that would take. Many schools are underfunded and are still running on hub-based 10 Mbit networks. For many schools, even if they could get the grant for dual processor server, they could never run it on their network.
This, of course, assumes that Linux is a good thing. And that these kids will get a chance to know it. Every Windows PC at a school needs to be locked down to prevent tampering and just general mis-use by curious do-it-yourself kids. What makes Linux any different than OSX or Windows if the kids are only allowed to launch certain applications, and never allowed to use the actual underlying OS tools? Basically, we're getting kids acclimated to various program launchers, which is by far the easiest part of an OS to learn. The OSX dock is anything but intuitive, but even that only takes like 2 minutes of messing around with it to figure it out.
And as far as Linux being a good thing, I'm tired of that being assumed. Linux is an OS with pros and cons, just like every other OS, and instead of immediately assuming that world + dog should be using it we should look specifically at the students and discuss what the positive and negative effects of a Linux shift are.
I will agree, though, that there is no excuse for running Windows for firewall and routing, and Linux would work well for their web and application servers. The low price tag is moot (as these schools already have licenses to MS products, you don't get your money back for switching), but the stability and speed is a huge advantage.
Well, it may be written poorly, but it's extremely biased, that meets my expectations about Linux Journal. Not an attack on Linux, but I wouldn't read Windows magazine for news either. Or MacAddict *shudder*. As a rule of thumb, I don't trust news reported by evangelists.
I would agree with that, but I started out using MS-DOS and then Apple IIe's (moved to a poorer school district), then eventually in high school Win 95 came out.
There was no learning involved to go to Win95, and I've pretty much forgotten everything I learned from Apple IIe. My only reason for remembering anything at all in DOS is that I never really knew that much about it to start with (other than launching stuff).
A diverse computer education seems like a great idea, but I'm young enough to have been in these classes recently. It's always like 5 people who have it at home who kinda push the other kids through. Nobody really learns much because those who are interested are too busy teaching the others.
It wouldn't be linux if some open standard like XML didn't blow up in your face.
Perhaps we'd all be a little more inclined to shell out the extra dough if any of these extra features were being used. Heck, I can't remember the last game I played that used DOT3 bump mapping (actually, I think I've only seen it in 3d mark 2001), and that's been around for several years.
As far as I see it, I can't justify spending $400 on a card for a system on which I get maybe 1 new game each year. The last PC game that was able to hold my interest for more than a few seconds was Quake 3. I consider that to be sad.
speaking of the AIW... have they released a version yet that will encode in Mpeg2 and just leave the freaking "interlaced" flag set to true? I've been looking for a program to tear apart an Mpeg2 stream and change that one little setting with no success.
It seems to be readily apparent in the Radeon screenshot (at least the full quality AA screenshot). I use it all the time, it makes 640x480 gaming look a heck of a lot better (which is good for games that are old and don't support higher resolutions). Ultimately, though, it's just one more feature for the list on the side of the box.
I agree... the only time I wanna hear it is "I have xxx card that is being reviewed in the above article and here are my honest impressions, both positive and negative." For example, whe I notice a bunch of people have xxx card and can't get the drivers working, I tend to shy away from it.
The Radeon is RED.
I mean seriously, man...... RED!!!!! You can't beat that! Obviously it is red because it is teh h0tt35t card in teh history!
Of course, every card has on-board software that actually draws the stuff (pardon my techno-jargon), perhaps ATi is just writing a better on-board 3D engine.
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When the Gamecube was being developed, Nintendo went with Art-X (a small graphics firm that split from SGI) to design their graphics processor. During the devlopment cycle, ATi bought Art-X, hence every Gamecube having a little ATi sticker in the bottom right corner. My supposition (which is probably false) is that ATi got some new blood, including the Art-X people, who re-wrote their base-level graphics routines and helped them design better silicon specifically to run those routines.
I just hope that Nintendo sticks with them for the Gamecube's successor. Imagine what a Radeon 9800 could do if every developer who worked on it used it's proprietary features.
well, you sure handed me my hat...
Your response prompted me to do some reading on the topic and I realized that my assumptions about Mpeg4 were based upon incorrect information and ignorance. So, I withdraw my previous comment.
Well, I can't comment on whether my Duron 600 can encode Mpeg4 in realtime, I do know that my G3 600 MHz iMac with 384 MB of RAM absolutely chokes on every task I hand it. This leads me to believe then, that if a G3 600MHz can encode Mpeg4 in realtime, then OSX has some serious issues with processor and memory mis-management. Maybe it will get faster with Panther, but my office sure as hell doesn't have a couple hundred to throw away upgrading us to a new OS.
But all of this is irrelevant to me in the context of the G5. Lord knows I can't afford a G5, much less an Opteron to compare it to.
my little iMac (optimized pretty well) can't keep up with my pathetic 30 wpm typing speed if someone's uploading files via Samba. It just doesn't have the processing power (though it has plenty of ram) to handle Dreamweaver and Samba simultaneously. But my little iMac is ancient hardware, there's no reason it should run fast.
And ANY Pentium class x86 can encode MPEG4 in real time, just depends on the codec. Apple uses one similar to MJPEG, so of course it encodes in real time. My fsking digicam encodes that in realtime. But on my Duron 600, at 320x240, I can encode DivX at > 45 fps. I think with MJPEG the bottleneck would be trying to read and write the video from the disk.
Remember that MPEG4 is a framework, not a video codec. Like AVI is a framework, and Quicktime. (Although Quicktime usually only uses one of 2 codecs: Sorensen or DV) I have no doubt that your iMac does fine by you and is a well kept quality machine, but to show its speed in encoding video, you have to state the video codec, not the framework.
hrm... that's a little vague... I wish I knew what the "Competitor" system is. Is it dual processor (like the G5 it's compared to)? Is it using a Radeon 9800 Pro also? If so, Apple should say so... it will make their benchmark stronger. If not, they should pull the stat, as it's intentionally skewed.
After all, my Duron 600 wiht a Radeon runs Quake 3 faster than my Athlon 1200 with an S3 Verge... doesn't make the Duron better.
Yeah... that $1 difference is a terrible example, but both do use misleading prices. "Starting at" is a buzzphrase that just shouldn't exist. Those wonderful G5 prices? That's for a barebones tower. What good is "up to" 8 GB of RAM when it costs you $2k to get the model with 256 MB? To get your system up to something worth bragging about, you're probably talking about a $3k machine in the end.
I know it's an unfair comparrison, but $3k goes a very very very long way at a computer show, or on Pricewatch for that matter.
I'm a generic spare-parts PC user because I refuse to pay Dell, Gateway, or Apple a premium price just so I can defend my purchace to message board script kiddies.
So what's my hardware? I run what I run, and it keeps me happy. The underlying silicon is largely inconsequential.