I emailed my real name and address to SCO and informed them of the number of Linux boxes in my home/business. I also informed them of the number of Linux boxes I've installed for other people.
IF SCO sends me a letter I intend to wipe my ass with it and send it back to them, postage due..
While I agree with ESR in whole about everything, I think that the letter he wrote is unprofessional and reflects poorly upon him and the organization he represents.
He should have been much more tactful and judicious in his choice of words.
Sure, we're furious, we're pissed, we can rant in forums and the like but we should temper our words when putting them on official letterhead.
You can be sure that SCO will hold this up in the air like a gladiator holding up the severed head of his opponent in the arena. SCO is a bunch of absolute morons but we should leave it to them to hold that status.
It's one thing when Joe Average rants and foams at the mouth but this looks bad.
And considering that SCO is blaming the recent DoS attacks on everyone they can think of, the wording of this letter and the timing of it and the attacks looks damning.
I would not even imply anything, but, SCO would.
We can't give in and lower ourselves to the tactics of the enemy. Our "leaders" must hold themselves up as shining examples as the best of the best, not the pissed of the pissed.
Yeah, I wish all the ill will in the world on SCO but I wouldn't be saying that on letterhead if I was the head of an organization that is under scrutiny. This ESR letter *WILL* be admitted as evidence when this stupid crap finally makes it to trial. Count on that..
I was installing a copy of Mandrake 9.1 for evaluation today at a customer office and when I went to PLF to get the goodies we were greeted with the protest page.
This changed the course of the conversation of the day. The customer and I spent quite a bit of time discussing this and other similar manners.
It was a GOOD thing because it caused my customer to become much more aware of what's going on outside of the tiny little M$ world that they have been living in up until today..
Good work folks and HAIL VICTORY! DEATH to the infidel oppressors!
Sorry, but I do not play with toys like the playstation 2. Yes, he has one. No, I do not know much about the device, it serves no useful purpose as far as I'm concerned and I have no interest in the device.
Beat me with a rubber hose for getting that wrong. I've seen it all sorts of ways on the internet and I assumed most people would not confuse it with an IBM Personal System 2.
I just took my son to college this weekend and set his pc up for him. (Ah yes, dad knows FAR more about computers that jr...)
We dropped his stuff off in his dorm and discovering there was only one ethernet jack in his room we left for Best Buy to grab a cheapy hub so he could plug his LINUX box, his PS/2 and his roommate all into the single lan jack.
Well, we blew off the hub because his roommate called his cell phone and said he was "bringing a *thing* from home to hook both of *them* up at once"..
So, assuming he was talking about a hub we blew that off. Well, we got back and discover the roomy had plugged a cordless phone into the lan jack. I pulled the cord and announced that they were lucky system security didn't come up and billy club someone for crashing planet earth into the mooon by plugging the phone into the lan jack. The roomy was sitting there looking like he had crapped his pants.
I plugged my son's pc into the lan and fired it up to make sure it was configured properly with the college system and it was fine.
My son is using Mandrake 9.1 w/KDE 3.1.3tex.
Now, when you fire up Linux *MOST* people are going to say something, it's different you know and if a NORMAL person has a few brain cells functioning, they will notice something is different and not only ask questions but come over to watch..
Nope. Roomy sat there waiting for his chair to blast off, he could have been watching me pilot the starship Enterprise as far as he knew.
I very quickly drew the conclusion that this kid was not only dead in the head, his computer skills are less than ZERO.. I asked him what he has, he told me he has a laptop with Windows 98. Whee! How fun can that be??!!
There were hundreds of kids lugging brand new Compaq and Dell boxes in and they *ALL* had big fat, "WINDOWS XP installed" stickers on them.
You can bet your ass that those kids will be ate up with that shit, probably already, if not for sure by the coming weekend.
Those kids, by dragging all those XP boxes in were building a big petri dish for the script kiddies to play...
I can say this. I'm damn glad my kid is using Linux, I don't have to worry about him getting caught up in all these childish virus/worm/trojan games. This shit has gone way, way too far.
I'm not going to pump all my money into repairing his PC (600+ miles from home) every few days, dumping money down the toilet on anti-virus crapware that does not work, and paying $200 for an OS that just brings you constant headaches.
I told my son that if he wants to stay in that school then the Linux stays on his PC and M$ is forbidden on his machine. If he changes it or let's someone change it, that's it. He goes to local community college with the local idiot beerheads..
This will probably get me flamed to no end but think about it..
One life and death critical systems they should use proprietary hardware, OS and software.
Not any version of Windows, not any version of Linux, not Intel, not AMD, but something totally alien. Something that is designed from the ground up to be DIFFERENT and CLOSED that can not communicate with the outside world and the system that the outside world run on.
I'm talking about Air Traffic Control systems, Nuke plant controls, railroad traffic systems, hospitial systems, military systems, power systems, public utilities.
I mean NEW CPU's and a NEW OS and NEW software that is so different and so tightly closed that nothing can communicate with it but other systems of the same design.
With every other little dickweed with a Wally World emachine typing "1337" into google and downloading DIY virus labs, and these same little punks having access to the same networks that all the above mission critical systems communicate on, well, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
And when some script kiddie crashes a 747 full of people from his Wally World emachine on his mommies AOL account, what then? Or the same kiddie opens the floodgates on a dam and kills 200,000 people. Or a million people. Or makes a nuke plant go Chernobyl?
When burglars keep breaking into your safe every week and robbing you blind you would assume that it's time to get a better safe..
Before the world went insane and computerized every friggin thing from toasters to pay toilets to the power grid, this sort of thing was IMPOSSIBLE. Time to fix it folks..
"Not to be paranoid or a conspiracy theorist, but it should be evident to anyone with even a couple of firing synapses that Microsoft is no longer a software business. Software is only a stepping stone to a larger avenue of revenue: human thought, human knowledge, human behavior, and the exploitation thereof in any way whatsoever - so long as it provides a revenue stream."
I believe that you've hit the nail on the head sir. I think I'll print that and frame it..
I have the original floppies of these games, then later I got them on CD when a 2x reader has a hot item to have.
Even better and farther back in time, I have most of my old Sierra games on 5 1/4" floppies, like KQ1, Space Quest, etc...
I have an old IBM XT (a real one) and one day I'll get around to playing them again, just for nostalgia sake. Hey, back then those games were FUN! I even have Zork 1 and THHGTTG in text only versions, they are about 50-60k IIRR.. I used to play them on a Compaq luggable (8086) with a 10meg drive. WOW! 10megs in a portable PC! And it had 640k via an AST SixPack..
Yep, spent a lot of time playing those old games, doom was really cool, but I liked Wolfenstein better..
I'm 43. And I do not watch current releases because, as I stated before, they all suck. I don't like the actors/actresses, the scripts are crap they use FAR too much CGI and they blast the shit out of you with loud music. Not to mention that most of the so called "music" they use anyway is music that I wouldn't listen to if I had to.
Cary Grant, Richard Burton, John Wayne, Gregory Peck, etc. They were great actors. The actresses of that time were not only great too but they were great to look at, like Betty Grabel, Rita Hayworth, Grace Kelly and *Doris Day* Ah, what a beautiful woman... Take a look here, there are too many fine looking women to list, http://www.bombshells.com/links/index.shtml
Now the women on screen look like greasy headed gutter snipes that cut their hair with a weed eater and never wash or brush it. They look like trashy shit. A slut is a slut is a slut.
John Malkovich? Don't like him. Ed Norton? Don't know who he is. Billy Bob Thornton? Don't know he is. Jack Nicholson? Despise him for his politics.
O Brother Where Art Thou? Wouldn't watch it. How about Punch Drunk Love? Wouldn't watch it. Royal Tennenbaums? Would NEVER watch it.
I don't watch "humor" movies or "love" movies. Never have, never will. They serve no purpose.
I won't put my dollars into the pockets of the scumbags that star in these films or the hollywood scumbags that produce these films.
I'm morally and or politically opposed to most if not all of these people for various reasons. I don't like them, I don't like what they do, I don't like them pushing their agenda into my home on the TV set or the big screen. I don't want them influencing my kids or pushing their agenda on my kids.
I'm disgusted with every movie now having some sexual content slipped in, even PG rated movies that little kids watch have it. It's disgusting and it's wrong.
My son recently turned 18 and got his preachers license (It's what HE wants to do in life). Now that he's 18, by law he can watch anything he wants to, but even so, I still don't allow certain TV shows or movies on the TV or certain types of "music" on the radio in my house, starting with MTV. MTV is totally forbidden in my house, forever. It's a vulgar, filthy cesspool and should be made illegal and the people that produce it should be arrested and executed for polluting the minds of children.
Yeah, I watch movies on rare occassions but 99% of the movies I watch are over 50 years old. I prefer movies from the late 20's to the early 70's, and if it's a 60's or 70's movie it better be damn good. I have grown to despise CGI in movies. It adds nothing. It doesn't represent anything other than brute computer power. There's nothing there for innovation, ingenuity and resourcefulness. Not to mention, CGI looks so, CGIish..
I'll be glad when that fad dies out. Every year they come up with a new special effect and you see it in commercials and movies until you could puke, like the freeze and rotate thing they went nuts on. I'm so sick of that shit. And there's no need to slo-mo someone getting hit or shot. That's bullshit. That doesn't happen in real life and it's just glorification of violence. Or when something blows up they repeat the scene 6 times so you see it in slo-mo from 6 different points of view. Bullshit on that too. That's NOT how things happen.
CGI is shit. It's filler used to fill in to make a movie reach the expected length. If they took out the CGI there would be about 20 minutes of dialogue. They use the CGI to create the illusion that there's a movie there to watch..
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Jeez you mods are off base....
HP. SCO. Supercomputer.
McBride FUDbot......
sorry to hear that HP had something to do with it.
I used to really like HP, they used to make great laserjets, great ink/paintjets, excellent scanners, etc...
But then they merged with Compaq and kicked out the founder. And now, the most evil of evils, they are sleeping with SCO...
Once again, sad to hear that HP was in on this...
I emailed my real name and address to SCO and informed them of the number of Linux boxes in my home/business. I also informed them of the number of Linux boxes I've installed for other people.
IF SCO sends me a letter I intend to wipe my ass with it and send it back to them, postage due..
While I agree with ESR in whole about everything, I think that the letter he wrote is unprofessional and reflects poorly upon him and the organization he represents.
He should have been much more tactful and judicious in his choice of words.
Sure, we're furious, we're pissed, we can rant in forums and the like but we should temper our words when putting them on official letterhead.
You can be sure that SCO will hold this up in the air like a gladiator holding up the severed head of his opponent in the arena.
SCO is a bunch of absolute morons but we should leave it to them to hold that status.
It's one thing when Joe Average rants and foams at the mouth but this looks bad.
And considering that SCO is blaming the recent DoS attacks on everyone they can think of, the wording of this letter and the timing of it and the attacks looks damning.
I would not even imply anything, but, SCO would.
We can't give in and lower ourselves to the tactics of the enemy. Our "leaders" must hold themselves up as shining examples as the best of the best, not the pissed of the pissed.
Yeah, I wish all the ill will in the world on SCO but I wouldn't be saying that on letterhead if I was the head of an organization that is under scrutiny. This ESR letter *WILL* be admitted as evidence when this stupid crap finally makes it to trial. Count on that..
I was installing a copy of Mandrake 9.1 for evaluation today at a customer office and when I went to PLF to get the goodies we were greeted with the protest page.
This changed the course of the conversation of the day. The customer and I spent quite a bit of time discussing this and other similar manners.
It was a GOOD thing because it caused my customer to become much more aware of what's going on outside of the tiny little M$ world that they have been living in up until today..
Good work folks and HAIL VICTORY!
DEATH to the infidel oppressors!
Virus writers pushed me into changing to Linux and totally dumping windows.
So, here's a great big THANK YOU to all the virus writers out there, you really, really did me a huge favor.
One very satisfied Linux convert.
Someone will just overclock you and you'll be a real burnout...
I wouldn't have a clue on earth what that is..
Sorry, I'm an old fart..
Oh be serious. You know what I meant. I just used it as a generic term. Like "car" can describe a thousand variations of a motor vehicle.
Sorry, but I do not play with toys like the playstation 2. Yes, he has one.
No, I do not know much about the device, it serves no useful purpose as far as I'm concerned and I have no interest in the device.
Beat me with a rubber hose for getting that wrong. I've seen it all sorts of ways on the internet and I assumed most people would not confuse it with an IBM Personal System 2.
I just took my son to college this weekend and set his pc up for him. (Ah yes, dad knows FAR more about computers that jr...)
We dropped his stuff off in his dorm and discovering there was only one ethernet jack in his room we left for Best Buy to grab a cheapy hub so he could plug his LINUX box, his PS/2 and his roommate all into the single lan jack.
Well, we blew off the hub because his roommate called his cell phone and said he was "bringing a *thing* from home to hook both of *them* up at once"..
So, assuming he was talking about a hub we blew that off. Well, we got back and discover the roomy had plugged a cordless phone into the lan jack. I pulled the cord and announced that they were lucky system security didn't come up and billy club someone for crashing planet earth into the mooon by plugging the phone into the lan jack. The roomy was sitting there looking like he had crapped his pants.
I plugged my son's pc into the lan and fired it up to make sure it was configured properly with the college system and it was fine.
My son is using Mandrake 9.1 w/KDE 3.1.3tex.
Now, when you fire up Linux *MOST* people are going to say something, it's different you know and if a NORMAL person has a few brain cells functioning, they will notice something is different and not only ask questions but come over to watch..
Nope. Roomy sat there waiting for his chair to blast off, he could have been watching me pilot the starship Enterprise as far as he knew.
I very quickly drew the conclusion that this kid was not only dead in the head, his computer skills are less than ZERO.. I asked him what he has, he told me he has a laptop with Windows 98. Whee! How fun can that be??!!
There were hundreds of kids lugging brand new Compaq and Dell boxes in and they *ALL* had big fat, "WINDOWS XP installed" stickers on them.
You can bet your ass that those kids will be ate up with that shit, probably already, if not for sure by the coming weekend.
Those kids, by dragging all those XP boxes in were building a big petri dish for the script kiddies to play...
I can say this. I'm damn glad my kid is using Linux, I don't have to worry about him getting caught up in all these childish virus/worm/trojan games. This shit has gone way, way too far.
I'm not going to pump all my money into repairing his PC (600+ miles from home) every few days, dumping money down the toilet on anti-virus crapware that does not work, and paying $200 for an OS that just brings you constant headaches.
I told my son that if he wants to stay in that school then the Linux stays on his PC and M$ is forbidden on his machine. If he changes it or let's someone change it, that's it. He goes to local community college with the local idiot beerheads..
from Playskool (tm) for the look and feel???
Longhorn approved PDA
Longhorn/RIAA approved MP3 player
Longhorn control panel
Longhorn/RIAA approved CD player
And, last but not least, introducing the ALL NEW Longhorn approved WORM..
That the SCO pony show was created on a Windows box?
They used a M$ greek font and it was in M$ Power Point.
Anyone find that interesting like I do??
Think about it...
They just renamed every error to "Windows is now starting up..."
No, they renamed every error to "Windows must now reboot..."
This will probably get me flamed to no end but think about it..
One life and death critical systems they should use proprietary hardware, OS and software.
Not any version of Windows, not any version of Linux, not Intel, not AMD, but something totally alien. Something that is designed from the ground up to be DIFFERENT and CLOSED that can not communicate with the outside world and the system that the outside world run on.
I'm talking about Air Traffic Control systems, Nuke plant controls, railroad traffic systems, hospitial systems, military systems, power systems, public utilities.
I mean NEW CPU's and a NEW OS and NEW software that is so different and so tightly closed that nothing can communicate with it but other systems of the same design.
With every other little dickweed with a Wally World emachine typing "1337" into google and downloading DIY virus labs, and these same little punks having access to the same networks that all the above mission critical systems communicate on, well, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
And when some script kiddie crashes a 747 full of people from his Wally World emachine on his mommies AOL account, what then? Or the same kiddie opens the floodgates on a dam and kills 200,000 people. Or a million people. Or makes a nuke plant go Chernobyl?
When burglars keep breaking into your safe every week and robbing you blind you would assume that it's time to get a better safe..
Before the world went insane and computerized every friggin thing from toasters to pay toilets to the power grid, this sort of thing was IMPOSSIBLE. Time to fix it folks..
Flame away..
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"Torvalds: They are smoking crack."
Go Linus! Damn! That's freaking excellent!!
Man, I need a picture of Linus to put on my wall above my Unix history timeline 8 foot long poster
No, it refers to you getting gored in the ass with the Longhorns of the M$ bull.
I'll try this.
Sounds like good advice to me.
I'll post from Starbucks and let you know how it works.
J. Fletcher
If you run real fast you can catch up with the turnip truck.
Hurry now before they miss you!
"Not to be paranoid or a conspiracy theorist, but it should be evident to anyone with even a couple of firing synapses that Microsoft is no longer a software business. Software is only a stepping stone to a larger avenue of revenue: human thought, human knowledge, human behavior, and the exploitation thereof in any way whatsoever - so long as it provides a revenue stream."
I believe that you've hit the nail on the head sir. I think I'll print that and frame it..
I have the original floppies of these games, then later I got them on CD when a 2x reader has a hot item to have.
Even better and farther back in time, I have most of my old Sierra games on 5 1/4" floppies, like KQ1, Space Quest, etc...
I have an old IBM XT (a real one) and one day I'll get around to playing them again, just for nostalgia sake. Hey, back then those games were FUN! I even have Zork 1 and THHGTTG in text only versions, they are about 50-60k IIRR.. I used to play them on a Compaq luggable (8086) with a 10meg drive. WOW! 10megs in a portable PC! And it had 640k via an AST SixPack..
Yep, spent a lot of time playing those old games, doom was really cool, but I liked Wolfenstein better..
How are the Licenses registered?
;-P
The url to register and activate the license is http://www.sco.com/support/registration/
Anyone up to writing a registerbot???
You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you?
I'm 43. And I do not watch current releases because, as I stated before, they all suck.
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I don't like the actors/actresses, the scripts are crap they use FAR too much CGI and they blast the shit out of you with loud music. Not to mention that most of the so called "music" they use anyway is music that I wouldn't listen to if I had to.
Cary Grant, Richard Burton, John Wayne, Gregory Peck, etc. They were great actors. The actresses of that time were not only great too but they were great to look at, like Betty Grabel, Rita Hayworth, Grace Kelly and *Doris Day* Ah, what a beautiful woman...
Take a look here, there are too many fine looking women to list,
http://www.bombshells.com/links/index.shtm
Now the women on screen look like greasy headed gutter snipes that cut their hair with a weed eater and never wash or brush it. They look like trashy shit. A slut is a slut is a slut.
John Malkovich? Don't like him.
Ed Norton? Don't know who he is.
Billy Bob Thornton? Don't know he is.
Jack Nicholson? Despise him for his politics.
O Brother Where Art Thou? Wouldn't watch it.
How about Punch Drunk Love? Wouldn't watch it.
Royal Tennenbaums? Would NEVER watch it.
I don't watch "humor" movies or "love" movies.
Never have, never will. They serve no purpose.
I won't put my dollars into the pockets of the scumbags that star in these films or the hollywood scumbags that produce these films.
I'm morally and or politically opposed to most if not all of these people for various reasons.
I don't like them, I don't like what they do, I don't like them pushing their agenda into my home on the TV set or the big screen. I don't want them influencing my kids or pushing their agenda on my kids.
I'm disgusted with every movie now having some sexual content slipped in, even PG rated movies that little kids watch have it. It's disgusting and it's wrong.
My son recently turned 18 and got his preachers license (It's what HE wants to do in life). Now that he's 18, by law he can watch anything he wants to, but even so, I still don't allow certain TV shows or movies on the TV or certain types of "music" on the radio in my house, starting with MTV.
MTV is totally forbidden in my house, forever. It's a vulgar, filthy cesspool and should be made illegal and the people that produce it should be arrested and executed for polluting the minds of children.
Yeah, I watch movies on rare occassions but 99% of the movies I watch are over 50 years old. I prefer movies from the late 20's to the early 70's, and if it's a 60's or 70's movie it better be damn good. I have grown to despise CGI in movies. It adds nothing. It doesn't represent anything other than brute computer power. There's nothing there for innovation, ingenuity and resourcefulness. Not to mention, CGI looks so, CGIish..
I'll be glad when that fad dies out. Every year they come up with a new special effect and you see it in commercials and movies until you could puke, like the freeze and rotate thing they went nuts on. I'm so sick of that shit. And there's no need to slo-mo someone getting hit or shot. That's bullshit. That doesn't happen in real life and it's just glorification of violence.
Or when something blows up they repeat the scene 6 times so you see it in slo-mo from 6 different points of view. Bullshit on that too. That's NOT how things happen.
CGI is shit. It's filler used to fill in to make a movie reach the expected length. If they took out the CGI there would be about 20 minutes of dialogue. They use the CGI to create the illusion that there's a movie there to watch..