Untill I see proper benchmarks done with applications built for 64bit chips I am going to go pffffft.
I am still blown away that the FX did better then then 3.2 P4.
Proper benchmarks include not using a 64bit beta stupid o/s like windows, a properly optimized linux (suse 64 or gentoo) and applications built for the chip. Openoffice, kde and kde apps, mozilla, some miscellaneous 3d engines running some impresive demos, maybe tenebrae quake. Tenebrae quake is great being that its open source and takes a huge amount of gfx and proc power.
The thing thats great about the AMD 64 bit offering is its backwards compatability with 32bit
But I would like to see those as well, but from what I hear about intels resellers it is a PITA to buy a freaking itanium let a lone snag one for a demo.
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Drivers are not to hard to get on the linux side. There is a x86-64 nvidia driver.
As far as other drivers.. all in the kernel baby.
Doom3 will run on the processor but it most likely will be a 32bit build. I would not be suprised at all if there was a x86-64 build and even a smp x86-64 build.
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A company I previoulsy worked for sells nothing but Opterons for workstations and servers. It is amazing what dual 64bit chips can do on a properly optimized workstation. It is quite impressive. We used suse 64bit version and gentoo linux on those machines
Its not too tricky. If you are using linux you can easily take advantage of these. Use gentoo if you want the entire o/s nice and optimized for the chip
A troll but I will bite.
Did you happen to read that it was not running any applications optimized for it? The pentium 4 is all about just tossing in more cache and higher clock speeds where as the AMD chips are about efficiency. A 2.2ghz chip directly compeating with a 3.2ghz chip with a shat load of L3 cache shows that it is mearly just a smoke screen. Not only that but the 3.2ghz Pentium 4 costs a bundle more. What about the lower memory access times? I'd prefer lower memory access times.
Hell I was carded when I went to buy the game. At the time I was only 17 and it was the first time I had bought a video game since TMNT 12 years ago. Hell some places won't let you buy R movies a friend of mine was carded for the matrix and another was carded buying End of Evangelion. If the kids had GTA3 then their parents must have boughten it or they stumbled upon a really really cool employee who did not care about lossing their job.
Predictive compile in Xcode won't speed up a build of anything. It only speeds up the development turnaround process. Yes it is a xcode feature and has nothing to do with G5s specificaly. A G3 with xcode will do the same thing.
Ive started wearing a wrist band for long strenchs at the computer. Its the best thing to happen to LAN gaming for me. It helps with wrist support plus it wipes away sweat from my brow or my palms. So if you want a functional wrist and sweat saver device that also acts a a great "punk rocker" fasion statement get yourself a wristband.
I do not know why so many people had issues with 2.5 even compiling. I ran 2.5 exclusivly on my gentoo machine. Granted I was using the mm patchset on the 2.5 vanilla kernel but I never once had an issue. Just some small changes systemwise (alsa and nvidia) for running it. I must say if you want to get into development of, or even testing of unstable kerenels look into gentoo, they make it incredibly easy with already included patches for the nvidia drivers on new kernels and so on. Only complaint I had is every 6 hours after an emerge sync i would have a new kernel sources update waiting to be installed.
Your TiBook is your 6th limb as well I see.
Well what is being overlooked here is the software, I am a firm believer that the best o/s for a laptop is mac osx, and I am a very very very large linux advocate.
Ive been running 2.5 for awhile now, no problems, no crashes nothing, I love it. Big improvements.
Of course I am running it on gentoo which makes life so much easier to run experimental kernels.
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If the average consumer non-geek has to pick a CPU its all gone horribly wrong.
Anything.
It is NOT a mini cd-r, or dvd-r. It is a mini dvd burned backwards, inside instead of the outside, a regular DVVD burner will not work.
That is most likely the server makefile.
Gearhead: I chromed out my car
Steve Jobs: I chromed out my logo
I am still blown away that the FX did better then then 3.2 P4.
Proper benchmarks include not using a 64bit beta stupid o/s like windows, a properly optimized linux (suse 64 or gentoo) and applications built for the chip. Openoffice, kde and kde apps, mozilla, some miscellaneous 3d engines running some impresive demos, maybe tenebrae quake. Tenebrae quake is great being that its open source and takes a huge amount of gfx and proc power.
I dont think you understand the problems with the benchmarks done and the point of 64bit.
But I would like to see those as well, but from what I hear about intels resellers it is a PITA to buy a freaking itanium let a lone snag one for a demo.
Drivers are not to hard to get on the linux side. There is a x86-64 nvidia driver. As far as other drivers.. all in the kernel baby. Doom3 will run on the processor but it most likely will be a 32bit build. I would not be suprised at all if there was a x86-64 build and even a smp x86-64 build.
A company I previoulsy worked for sells nothing but Opterons for workstations and servers. It is amazing what dual 64bit chips can do on a properly optimized workstation. It is quite impressive. We used suse 64bit version and gentoo linux on those machines
Its not too tricky. If you are using linux you can easily take advantage of these. Use gentoo if you want the entire o/s nice and optimized for the chip
A troll but I will bite. Did you happen to read that it was not running any applications optimized for it? The pentium 4 is all about just tossing in more cache and higher clock speeds where as the AMD chips are about efficiency. A 2.2ghz chip directly compeating with a 3.2ghz chip with a shat load of L3 cache shows that it is mearly just a smoke screen. Not only that but the 3.2ghz Pentium 4 costs a bundle more. What about the lower memory access times? I'd prefer lower memory access times.
There are a few people who still play counter-strike on the half-life engine. But then again I wouldn't call them very respectable gamers.
Hell I was carded when I went to buy the game. At the time I was only 17 and it was the first time I had bought a video game since TMNT 12 years ago. Hell some places won't let you buy R movies a friend of mine was carded for the matrix and another was carded buying End of Evangelion. If the kids had GTA3 then their parents must have boughten it or they stumbled upon a really really cool employee who did not care about lossing their job.
Predictive compile in Xcode won't speed up a build of anything. It only speeds up the development turnaround process. Yes it is a xcode feature and has nothing to do with G5s specificaly. A G3 with xcode will do the same thing.
1.) Get a job doing whatever. 2.) Buy caffeine and computer parts with money from job 3.) Use caffeine to stay up late working on the OSS Project
Wow! Reference to an Aston Martin on slashdot.
Ive started wearing a wrist band for long strenchs at the computer. Its the best thing to happen to LAN gaming for me. It helps with wrist support plus it wipes away sweat from my brow or my palms. So if you want a functional wrist and sweat saver device that also acts a a great "punk rocker" fasion statement get yourself a wristband.
I do not know why so many people had issues with 2.5 even compiling. I ran 2.5 exclusivly on my gentoo machine. Granted I was using the mm patchset on the 2.5 vanilla kernel but I never once had an issue. Just some small changes systemwise (alsa and nvidia) for running it. I must say if you want to get into development of, or even testing of unstable kerenels look into gentoo, they make it incredibly easy with already included patches for the nvidia drivers on new kernels and so on. Only complaint I had is every 6 hours after an emerge sync i would have a new kernel sources update waiting to be installed.
Your TiBook is your 6th limb as well I see. Well what is being overlooked here is the software, I am a firm believer that the best o/s for a laptop is mac osx, and I am a very very very large linux advocate.
Ive been running 2.5 for awhile now, no problems, no crashes nothing, I love it. Big improvements. Of course I am running it on gentoo which makes life so much easier to run experimental kernels.
OS/2 Delivers!
System-wide metal interface .. ew
To be honest metal is only good for certain UI
Redhat is doing a good job at getting recocgnistion though
Ahh man COBOL sweet your living on the edge. :D