Your argument is totally irrelevant. I could go with "ignorance of the law is no excuse," as that's a well established legal principle.
But this is a three strikes law. Download and you WILL BE TOLD to stop. Continue and you WILL BE TOLD to stop, and hit with a temporary disconnection. Do it again, after you've been told twice, and the hammer falls.
"Google is doing something the case law doesn't quite cover."
Wrong. There have been at least a dozen lawsuits all over the same issue and Google has won all of them. So there's plenty of precedent to indicate that Google's actions are completely and totally legal.
And your analogy is still flawed. Type "Pepsi" into Google and the #1 natural search result is for Pepsi. No bait and switch. Search is search. Having ads related to the results that you asked for, in ADDITION to the results you asked for, is a different matter entirely.
What Linux drivers are going to support multitouch gestures on a dedicated Apple device? What Linux install is going to come with advanced handwriting recognition for input (assuming the story is true)? Power management? 3G networking?
What Linux install is going to have multitouch applications designed specifically for the device? What Linux install is going to have App Store support built in so one can run one of the thousands of apps and games that will be written specifically for the device?
So what you're saying is that one should trash all of that and install software that basically turns it into a brick, hardly suitable for its intended function?
So you're saying that if you knew you could easily be popped and fined 300,000 euros, or even sent to jail for downloading 20 euros worth of music, you'd still do so?
If that's the case then fine, build the jails. The world will be much better off with all the idiots behind bars as well...
From a strict point of view, anyone who "downloads" music off a P2P network is automatically guilty of illegal distribution as well, as while your computer is downloading it's also uploading and distributing pieces of that file to other users on the same network at the same time. It's the nature of the beast.
And yes, you can "leech", but that's considered unethical (grin) by those who steal such things...
Which is a major reason why the Prius and the Isight and the Volt get such good mileage. And look pretty much the same as well. Extremely low drag coefficients. Put a box on four wheels to hold four humans, some cargo, and an engine, and when you get right down to it there's only one optimum shape.
If the H.264 folk were smart they'd encourage browser vendors to support H.264 and license it to them for free. Why? Because that would ensure that H.264 becomes the dominate standard, and open the floodgates to users creating and uploading and playing H.264 video.
In the meantime, the H.264 group makes its money off the hardware guys, as now every computer, notebook, phone, and media device will need low-power dedicated H.264 hardware decoders.
"I download and distribute because I want to cause harm to companies and individuals that stole from the commons."
That's a BS argument. Even if copyright were a mere 7 or 14 or 20 years, I bet 90% of the content you steal and distribute is less than a year or so old, and as such would STILL BE PROTECTED UNDER LAW.
And you may think it's some sort of civil disobedience, but I'll also bet that the vast majority of the people you're supporting could care less. They simply prefer to steal music and movies and software because they can and then spend the money saved on beer.
And if you REALLY want to help the "commons", then spend a year or so writing a book or producing great music or a movie and then give it away under Creative Commons. Create something worthwhile, if you can. Hell, any pea-brain can run a torrent server and delude themselves that they're "making a difference."
"In terms of MORAL ideas, a few centuries really isn't terribly significant."
Ah. So we in the US should roll back the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bill of rights, civil rights, a woman's right to vote, emancipation, freedom from segregation, and all of those other silly moral ideas, simply because they occurred within the last few centuries? They're "new", so they don't count?
No, the COMPUTER initiated the request, and ultimately the computer will end up with the results. The phone is simply passing on requests and relaying responses.
I could make the IRS a lot smaller. Cut out all tax law, loopholes, exemptions, deductions, and special cases. Replace it with a flat tax. Now replace the tax form with two lines:
1) How much did you make? _____ 2) Send 20% ____
And as an added bonus, you can eliminate an army of IRS agents as well as corporate accountants and tax lawyers.
Your phone may have "unlimited" service, but last time I checked, a tethered notebook computer is not a phone. Is the RSS reader or web browser ON THE PHONE requesting data? No? Why should a separate device like your computer have unlimited access to a data plan designed and rated for a PHONE?
"....and we actually start seeing some good, original apps."
Non-native JavaScript-based apps running in a browser (WebKit)? Good luck with that.
Especially with games.
And I suspect that the HTML/JavaScript base will attract more "developers" of the kind that barely managed to get through the "HTML for Dummies" book. So much for "quality" applications.
"If Palm can build a better meritocracy for the App Catalog..."
So the idea is for Palm to be even MORE restrictive than Apple in managing the store?
Well... they can always run with the 40,000 applications in the App Store. A rather significant head start on the 12 demo non-native applications Pre is currently showing in their app "store" (you can't buy anything yet). Even beats out the 25,000 or so Windows Mobile apps Microsoft touts as aving.
Plus they have the whole game-integration thing going with the iPod Touch.
Plus binding all of those apps to a larger "pad" media/game/reading device.
And there's that patent that just popped up on middle-of-the-call media transfers (send a pic to someone in the middle of the phone call, listen to the same song, etc.).
But as to killer phone features... my money is on video iChat on the iPhone. Do a video call to anyone with an iPhone OR with a iSight-enabled MacBook or iMac?
A child is about a 1,000 times more likely to be killed by drowning in a neighbor's pool than abducted by a total stranger. 10,000 times more likely to be seriously injured or even killed playing school sports. And 100 times more likely to be struck by lightning.
Parents need to stop watching CSI and Criminal Minds and Law & Order.
"Sure, history is nice to know and the basis is almost necessary in order to make political choices, but does that really affect your day to day living unless you are a historian?"
Tell that to all of the parents who lost their kids in Afghanistan and Iraq. Or the kids who lost parents, for that matter. The parallels in the lead up between them and between many previous U.S. wars are too numerous to mention.
Yeah, you're right. Being killed, having essential freedoms stripped away, and more, all have little to do with your "day to day living." Until, of course, you wake up and it does.
"We try to have far too generic classes that are mandated in education, allow students to pick what they want to be in and learn that rather than things that they don't care about..."
Math, science, history, government, and many other subjects are REQUIREMENTS for living in today's society. At least, they are if you want to be anything other than an easily replaced cog in the machine. Which leads us back to the point that, at that age, you do NOT know what's best. Many students would rather party than learn anything at all, and who's to blame them? But there seems to be a distinct lack of paying jobs for people who like to attend parties.
What's needed, IMHO, are teachers who can make those subjects RELEVANT. Show the would-be welder how materials science impacts his work. Why business and econ and English communication skills are needed for someone that might just want to run his own business some day. And so on.
Education is important, and most kids are too stupid to realize it.
Perhaps, like DNA tests, we can use this information to diagnose people who are NOT matches, do not have ADHD, and as such shouldn't be drugged or "treated" for a disease they do not have...
You live in a modern, technologically advanced society. Science has a point. Biology has a point. Knowing how government and the financial and legal systems work have a point. Knowing how civilizations rise (and, more importantly, fall) has a point. Math skills let you do more than count change at McDonalds. English and communication skills have a point no matter WHAT you plan to do with your life.
Education allows you to have MEANINGFUL opinions on subjects that matter.
Ignore it, and you wind up being an ignorant, easily manipulated savage who doesn't know what to do when the magic button on the remote control stops working and the voice stops whispering in his ear...
Many of the later intercepts were done by vectoring fighters into the V-1 flight paths and simply shooting them down like any other plane. And "thousands of anti-aircraft guns" were only used because at that point in time we didn't have ground-to-air missile capabilities. Which we now do.
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Your argument is totally irrelevant. I could go with "ignorance of the law is no excuse," as that's a well established legal principle.
But this is a three strikes law. Download and you WILL BE TOLD to stop. Continue and you WILL BE TOLD to stop, and hit with a temporary disconnection. Do it again, after you've been told twice, and the hammer falls.
"Google is doing something the case law doesn't quite cover."
Wrong. There have been at least a dozen lawsuits all over the same issue and Google has won all of them. So there's plenty of precedent to indicate that Google's actions are completely and totally legal.
And your analogy is still flawed. Type "Pepsi" into Google and the #1 natural search result is for Pepsi. No bait and switch. Search is search. Having ads related to the results that you asked for, in ADDITION to the results you asked for, is a different matter entirely.
What Linux drivers are going to support multitouch gestures on a dedicated Apple device? What Linux install is going to come with advanced handwriting recognition for input (assuming the story is true)? Power management? 3G networking?
What Linux install is going to have multitouch applications designed specifically for the device? What Linux install is going to have App Store support built in so one can run one of the thousands of apps and games that will be written specifically for the device?
So what you're saying is that one should trash all of that and install software that basically turns it into a brick, hardly suitable for its intended function?
So you're saying that if you knew you could easily be popped and fined 300,000 euros, or even sent to jail for downloading 20 euros worth of music, you'd still do so?
If that's the case then fine, build the jails. The world will be much better off with all the idiots behind bars as well...
Yes, making a cassette copy was illegal. But back then making a cassette copy was also self-limiting, as doing so took time and cost money (the tape).
Hence the average individual didn't record and give away tapes to 10,000 of his closest "friends", as they do today.
From a strict point of view, anyone who "downloads" music off a P2P network is automatically guilty of illegal distribution as well, as while your computer is downloading it's also uploading and distributing pieces of that file to other users on the same network at the same time. It's the nature of the beast.
And yes, you can "leech", but that's considered unethical (grin) by those who steal such things...
I have a new word for you: aerodynamics.
Which is a major reason why the Prius and the Isight and the Volt get such good mileage. And look pretty much the same as well. Extremely low drag coefficients. Put a box on four wheels to hold four humans, some cargo, and an engine, and when you get right down to it there's only one optimum shape.
If the H.264 folk were smart they'd encourage browser vendors to support H.264 and license it to them for free. Why? Because that would ensure that H.264 becomes the dominate standard, and open the floodgates to users creating and uploading and playing H.264 video.
In the meantime, the H.264 group makes its money off the hardware guys, as now every computer, notebook, phone, and media device will need low-power dedicated H.264 hardware decoders.
"I download and distribute because I want to cause harm to companies and individuals that stole from the commons."
That's a BS argument. Even if copyright were a mere 7 or 14 or 20 years, I bet 90% of the content you steal and distribute is less than a year or so old, and as such would STILL BE PROTECTED UNDER LAW.
And you may think it's some sort of civil disobedience, but I'll also bet that the vast majority of the people you're supporting could care less. They simply prefer to steal music and movies and software because they can and then spend the money saved on beer.
And if you REALLY want to help the "commons", then spend a year or so writing a book or producing great music or a movie and then give it away under Creative Commons. Create something worthwhile, if you can. Hell, any pea-brain can run a torrent server and delude themselves that they're "making a difference."
"In terms of MORAL ideas, a few centuries really isn't terribly significant."
Ah. So we in the US should roll back the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bill of rights, civil rights, a woman's right to vote, emancipation, freedom from segregation, and all of those other silly moral ideas, simply because they occurred within the last few centuries? They're "new", so they don't count?
"It's only in the last century or so, when we reached a means of recording, manufacturing and selling music...."
Since copyright over written materials originated in Britain in 1710, that's 299 years, or nearly THREE centuries ago.
But the article makes it seem like it's just something we created for the hell of it a decade or so ago.
No, the COMPUTER initiated the request, and ultimately the computer will end up with the results. The phone is simply passing on requests and relaying responses.
I could make the IRS a lot smaller. Cut out all tax law, loopholes, exemptions, deductions, and special cases. Replace it with a flat tax. Now replace the tax form with two lines:
1) How much did you make? _____
2) Send 20% ____
And as an added bonus, you can eliminate an army of IRS agents as well as corporate accountants and tax lawyers.
"The barrier is much lower for iPhone development which is why there are more rubbish games on the iPhone."
By that logic the Pre as a gaming platorm (JavaScript-based games) is going to suck big time...
Your phone may have "unlimited" service, but last time I checked, a tethered notebook computer is not a phone. Is the RSS reader or web browser ON THE PHONE requesting data? No? Why should a separate device like your computer have unlimited access to a data plan designed and rated for a PHONE?
"....and we actually start seeing some good, original apps."
Non-native JavaScript-based apps running in a browser (WebKit)? Good luck with that.
Especially with games.
And I suspect that the HTML/JavaScript base will attract more "developers" of the kind that barely managed to get through the "HTML for Dummies" book. So much for "quality" applications.
"If Palm can build a better meritocracy for the App Catalog..."
So the idea is for Palm to be even MORE restrictive than Apple in managing the store?
"How about we start getting phones with a good vibrate feature so that I can feel it while it's on my belt?"
Now be honest here. Is that REALLY why you want a better vibrator????
Well... they can always run with the 40,000 applications in the App Store. A rather significant head start on the 12 demo non-native applications Pre is currently showing in their app "store" (you can't buy anything yet). Even beats out the 25,000 or so Windows Mobile apps Microsoft touts as aving.
Plus they have the whole game-integration thing going with the iPod Touch.
Plus binding all of those apps to a larger "pad" media/game/reading device.
And there's that patent that just popped up on middle-of-the-call media transfers (send a pic to someone in the middle of the phone call, listen to the same song, etc.).
But as to killer phone features... my money is on video iChat on the iPhone. Do a video call to anyone with an iPhone OR with a iSight-enabled MacBook or iMac?
A child is about a 1,000 times more likely to be killed by drowning in a neighbor's pool than abducted by a total stranger. 10,000 times more likely to be seriously injured or even killed playing school sports. And 100 times more likely to be struck by lightning.
Parents need to stop watching CSI and Criminal Minds and Law & Order.
You're also less likely to bake the contents of the truck.
"Sure, history is nice to know and the basis is almost necessary in order to make political choices, but does that really affect your day to day living unless you are a historian?"
Tell that to all of the parents who lost their kids in Afghanistan and Iraq. Or the kids who lost parents, for that matter. The parallels in the lead up between them and between many previous U.S. wars are too numerous to mention.
Yeah, you're right. Being killed, having essential freedoms stripped away, and more, all have little to do with your "day to day living." Until, of course, you wake up and it does.
Idiots.
"We try to have far too generic classes that are mandated in education, allow students to pick what they want to be in and learn that rather than things that they don't care about..."
Math, science, history, government, and many other subjects are REQUIREMENTS for living in today's society. At least, they are if you want to be anything other than an easily replaced cog in the machine. Which leads us back to the point that, at that age, you do NOT know what's best. Many students would rather party than learn anything at all, and who's to blame them? But there seems to be a distinct lack of paying jobs for people who like to attend parties.
What's needed, IMHO, are teachers who can make those subjects RELEVANT. Show the would-be welder how materials science impacts his work. Why business and econ and English communication skills are needed for someone that might just want to run his own business some day. And so on.
Education is important, and most kids are too stupid to realize it.
Perhaps, like DNA tests, we can use this information to diagnose people who are NOT matches, do not have ADHD, and as such shouldn't be drugged or "treated" for a disease they do not have...
You live in a modern, technologically advanced society. Science has a point. Biology has a point. Knowing how government and the financial and legal systems work have a point. Knowing how civilizations rise (and, more importantly, fall) has a point. Math skills let you do more than count change at McDonalds. English and communication skills have a point no matter WHAT you plan to do with your life.
Education allows you to have MEANINGFUL opinions on subjects that matter.
Ignore it, and you wind up being an ignorant, easily manipulated savage who doesn't know what to do when the magic button on the remote control stops working and the voice stops whispering in his ear...
Many of the later intercepts were done by vectoring fighters into the V-1 flight paths and simply shooting them down like any other plane. And "thousands of anti-aircraft guns" were only used because at that point in time we didn't have ground-to-air missile capabilities. Which we now do.