Empathy - see the discussions below. And of course the main Google Talk client (Windows-only)
TruPhone doesn't use Jingle, it uses SIP (the main standard) - Jingle is better IMHO in that it links into the Jabber network, and all the SIP clients I've used have been too complicated/difficult to use and haven't made linking to other SIP clients easy.
Telepathy has good support for voice and video jingle that works beautifully out of the box on Nokia N800/N810 (maemo platform) - apparently you can install this on Ubuntu from their PPA but I haven't yet tried...
I always try and find names from translations of Tolkien that are different in the translation and not too long...
This presents an interesting challenge in that it's hard to find these quickly using Google etc. Since we're generally under pressure trying to set up a new server it's great fun.
So we've had:
kontu (Shire in Finnish)
kulma (Egladil in Finnish)
klofta (Combe, near Bree, in Norwegian)
megye (Shire in Hungarian)
breeg (Bree in Dutch)
We are a small company so we only have four servers and about ten laptops etc, so I'm not likely to run out any time soon... and of course as other people have said, we use CNAMEs to map services to servers (and this makes it easier to move services between servers too)
Exactly, so a better question:
It seems like there isn't a lot of collaboration between Wine and ReactOS, although ReactOS uses a lot of Wine's code and some of the work could be ported back. What's the reason for this and could the situation be improved in future?
The main issue here is one that is really difficult to explain with science: What does it mean to actually be conscious, not just intelligent and able to react things (a philosophical zombie). Whether souls are deterministic or not is a different question, but it's hard to see how even science can easily answer the hard question of consciousness.
What does the bible have going against it? Let's see..
OK, so now you're arguing against the Christian belief in who God is. I was just saying that your response above was self-centered.
It's mysogenic.
I presume you mean something about it being against women, like the word misogynist.
I strongly disagree. There is stuff in the Bible that promotes different roles for men and women, but nothing that is hateful or demeaning to women. It definitely goes against the grain of modern Western culture, but who made modern Western culture the arbiter of truth?
It told "god's people" to commit genocide.
Tricky. In the Bible it's viewed as God's judgment on those people for things like sacrificing their children in the fire etc.
It encouraged "god's followers" to enslave those around them, kill the men and rape the women.
Nowhere does the Bible even hint that God commanded people to rape women; that is total rubbish. The question you're raising is whether it's acceptable for God to use one nation to punish another and I admit it's a complex question. But don't muddle it up with falsehoods.
It keeps people from taking personal responsibilty for their past actions ("that was BEFORE I was a xian"... yeah, yeah, cry me a river...)
No, irresponsible people use the Bible as an excuse to not take responsibility for their past actions - this definitely is not an example set in the Bible (e.g. see Paul saying "I was a persecutor and a violent man, but I was shown mercy because of my unbelief"). Are you saying that you're against the concept of forgiveness?
It promotes intolerance towards gays, lesbians, transgendered, and transexuals.
Again a conflict between modern Western culture and Biblical values. There is a clear concept of God creating people as male and female, and an expectation that we should live the way he made us. You disagree with that. Of course, that's not an excuse for a lot of unloving behaviour towards the above people, but I don't think the Bible promotes that at all (Jesus forgiving the woman caught in adultery, etc).
It encourages physical abuse of children ("beat children with a rod" - this is SO fucked up!!!)
There are many cultures throughout history that have some form of physical discipline. While it can obviously be exploited and done in a way that causes harm to children, this doesn't make the general concept the same as abuse. If you've been beaten and abused by someone using the Bible as an excuse what can I do but apologise...
Even I have a better sense of justice, of what is morally right and wrong, than "god".
Hold on, this is extremely arrogant... what's the standard you're using to evaluate your own brilliance?
AND I've conducted myself a lot better than people who god supposedly approved of - like King David, who arranged for a man to be murdered so he could have the guy's wife, or King Solomon, who made Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruptions" look positively modest.
God approving of David was because of his repentance for abusing his position of power in that exact example, and his humility. Solomon is not commended in the Bible for his polygamy etc - his story is extremely sad.
There is no god, and if there were, I would still refuse to have anything to do with such an evil, perverted being.
So can you tell me what God you would approve of? I suspect one just like yourself...
The only self-centeredness here is the people who claim, without a single shred of proof, and despite much proof to the contrary, that the bible is "righteous." It's full of shit. Not just figuratively, but literally, since I've wiped my ass with it; contrary to predictions, god didn't strike me dead or inflict a plague on me or anything else.
Sustained the universe - not to mention that asking whether the being who created you and rules over the universe has done anything for you might be considered a tad self-centered, arrogant, and presumptuous.
(And yes, of course I realize you don't believe this...)
And even back when the printing press was invented, it was for the purpose of aggressive growth plans that often involved violence, injury, torture and death of people for the purpose of conversion. Ahem, the printing press was used for promoting all kinds of ideas (including the Renaissance), and many of those that promoted printing Bibles in people's own languages were the ones suffering persecution, certainly not the ones inflicting persecution on others. Care to back this up?
Religion as we generally recognize it has always been exploited for the purpose of gaining power and wealth. That's a bit fuzzy - it doesn't mean that all religion is there for the purpose of gaining power and wealth, although there certainly has been exploitation.
Actually if you scroll down the page on the linked article you'll see that there is at least one (but probably no more than one toe's worth) GPL'd Windows driver that NDISwrapper loads...
Journalists: Beware!
San Jose Mercury technology reporter Dan Gilmore recently discovered he's been assigned a special "owner" at one of Microsoft's public relations firms, Waggener-Edstrom. These spin-masters are attached to troublesome journalists like Gilmore who have the temerity to write uncomplimentary articles about the company or its products.
The really irksome reporters, according to documents spirited from the Waggener-Edstrom offices, are also assigned "buddies" at Microsoft itself. John Dodge, the editor of PC Week, has a special buddy at Microsoft, and Mary Jo Foley at Smart Reseller, is the subject of a "Mary Jo six month plan."
So searching for mercury gilmore microsoft Waggener-Edstrom led me to this which has the link to the original column - even the wayback machine says it has it but doesn't seem to be able to recall it, but searching for dg073198.htm turns archives up including here:
HEY, BUDDY: I learned today that I have an owner at Microsoft Corp.'s
primary public-relations agency. The Mercury News received a copy of a
document created by someone at the Waggener-Edstrom firm, in which
various media reports (at least the ones perceived as having anything
negative to say) about Microsoft are analyzed, with recommendations on
how to deal with the journalist in question. Mary Jo Foley, of the trade
journal Smart Reseller, may be intrigued to learn that she's the subject
of a ``Mary Jo six month plan.''
The document provides more evidence, if anyone needed it, that Microsoft
spares no expense in marketing. Every problem article has an ``owner'' at
the PR agency; the owner works with the reporter either to correct errors
or put a more positive spin on the situation. Some reporters also have a
``buddy'' at Microsoft; for example, PC Week's John Dodge has an unnamed
buddy who is supposed to ``send mail ---- `John, that's random' '' in
response to a Dodge column.
My own recent piece, in which I described a messy and unsuccessful
attempt to install Windows 98, caught Microsoft's attention. My
Waggener-Edstrom owner is working with Microsoft ``to send letter
inquiring about Dan's problems and emphasizing MS commitment to quality
products.''
It appears, however, that I don't have a buddy at Microsoft. I am
devastated.
Still any more links you have found would be cool...
Even by your own description, this is not entirely a result of choices AMD made. Part of the challenge is building your capacity so you can supply what OEMs need as you describe. But you have to have enough capital to do this - the variations in profit that could have been produced by the anti-competitive practices may have prevented AMD from building up the capital. Yes it's not a sure thing that they would have done it, but it does mean that these practices are worth investigating
This does bring up an interesting possibility - rather than completely reimplement Windows through something like ReactOS, or translate the API like WINE, how about replacing components of a real Windows install with F/OSS replacements? Drop in a workalike, but open source tcpip.sys and know where it's coming from. Actually WINE and ReactOS both reimplement large sections of Windows in ways that can be used on native Windows too. ReactOS does so more because it reimplements the lower layer where WINE uses emulation - but even in WINE higher-level DLLs are implemented natively.
I wouldn't be surprised if you could use the ReactOS version of tcpip.sys on a real Windows (although you may discover some bugs:-))
I finally tried Ubuntu around Dapper Drake times. What I discovered is that 98% of all the software I used was either in the Ubuntu or Debian repositories. Pretty much the only thing NOT in the repositories are 5 or 6 dock apps I like to run. So my average install takes about 4 hours now. Install, update, install packages and finally compile the few missing programs.
Unless the Fedora repositories have improved in the last 2 years or so. I can set up a bitchin Fedora Box in no time flat. Then I have to risk it to strange RPMs and possibly end up in dependency hell. Or I have to run down all the devel packages and build all of the goodies I use myself.
The Fedora repositories have improved majorly in the last two years. Notably because instead of having one "official" repository with a limited set of packages, and then Extras, they've all been merged into a similar repository (pretty much like Ubuntu). There are still alternate repositories (mostly because the focus on non-free or legally-troubled software) but the situation is much better than it was before
I understand and agree with the comments about the bug reporting system. So file bugs about the bug reporting system:-)
Most of the bugs that stay dormant are feature requests and that's just a case of needing developers who have the time and inclination to work on them.
45 issues filed.
Most of them are to do with language support patches and build issues as I worked on South African language support. Some had patches that have been accepted. I know OOo process is sometimes crazily slow but I was just pointing out that it doesn't help to abandon hope - a lot of things are actually fixed. In addition the upstream distro people are often very responsive - I had some crashes of OOo on Fedora fixed pretty quickly.
Any further questions?
What's the bug number? There are other ways to get a bug's profile raised if it's important to you (find the right mailing list / IRC people etc).
If it's for enterprise use getting support form Novell or Sun may be a good option and save you in the long run... maybe enquiring with them would be worthwhile. It would at least give you a better idea of the chances of getting your big issues fixed, and potentially help other people too
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Empathy - see the discussions below. And of course the main Google Talk client (Windows-only)
TruPhone doesn't use Jingle, it uses SIP (the main standard) - Jingle is better IMHO in that it links into the Jabber network, and all the SIP clients I've used have been too complicated/difficult to use and haven't made linking to other SIP clients easy.
Telepathy has good support for voice and video jingle that works beautifully out of the box on Nokia N800/N810 (maemo platform) - apparently you can install this on Ubuntu from their PPA but I haven't yet tried...
I always try and find names from translations of Tolkien that are different in the translation and not too long...
This presents an interesting challenge in that it's hard to find these quickly using Google etc. Since we're generally under pressure trying to set up a new server it's great fun.
So we've had:
kontu (Shire in Finnish)
kulma (Egladil in Finnish)
klofta (Combe, near Bree, in Norwegian)
megye (Shire in Hungarian)
breeg (Bree in Dutch)
We are a small company so we only have four servers and about ten laptops etc, so I'm not likely to run out any time soon... and of course as other people have said, we use CNAMEs to map services to servers (and this makes it easier to move services between servers too)
Exactly, so a better question:
It seems like there isn't a lot of collaboration between Wine and ReactOS, although ReactOS uses a lot of Wine's code and some of the work could be ported back. What's the reason for this and could the situation be improved in future?
Actually I believe the post was authored by rsmoody
And how exactly was that Offtopic?
The main issue here is one that is really difficult to explain with science: What does it mean to actually be conscious, not just intelligent and able to react things (a philosophical zombie). Whether souls are deterministic or not is a different question, but it's hard to see how even science can easily answer the hard question of consciousness.
OK, so now you're arguing against the Christian belief in who God is. I was just saying that your response above was self-centered.
It's mysogenic.I presume you mean something about it being against women, like the word misogynist. I strongly disagree. There is stuff in the Bible that promotes different roles for men and women, but nothing that is hateful or demeaning to women. It definitely goes against the grain of modern Western culture, but who made modern Western culture the arbiter of truth?
It told "god's people" to commit genocide.Tricky. In the Bible it's viewed as God's judgment on those people for things like sacrificing their children in the fire etc.
It encouraged "god's followers" to enslave those around them, kill the men and rape the women.Nowhere does the Bible even hint that God commanded people to rape women; that is total rubbish. The question you're raising is whether it's acceptable for God to use one nation to punish another and I admit it's a complex question. But don't muddle it up with falsehoods.
It keeps people from taking personal responsibilty for their past actions ("that was BEFORE I was a xian"No, irresponsible people use the Bible as an excuse to not take responsibility for their past actions - this definitely is not an example set in the Bible (e.g. see Paul saying "I was a persecutor and a violent man, but I was shown mercy because of my unbelief"). Are you saying that you're against the concept of forgiveness?
It promotes intolerance towards gays, lesbians, transgendered, and transexuals.Again a conflict between modern Western culture and Biblical values. There is a clear concept of God creating people as male and female, and an expectation that we should live the way he made us. You disagree with that. Of course, that's not an excuse for a lot of unloving behaviour towards the above people, but I don't think the Bible promotes that at all (Jesus forgiving the woman caught in adultery, etc).
It encourages physical abuse of children ("beat children with a rod" - this is SO fucked up!!!)There are many cultures throughout history that have some form of physical discipline. While it can obviously be exploited and done in a way that causes harm to children, this doesn't make the general concept the same as abuse. If you've been beaten and abused by someone using the Bible as an excuse what can I do but apologise...
Even I have a better sense of justice, of what is morally right and wrong, than "god".Hold on, this is extremely arrogant... what's the standard you're using to evaluate your own brilliance?
AND I've conducted myself a lot better than people who god supposedly approved of - like King David, who arranged for a man to be murdered so he could have the guy's wife, or King Solomon, who made Bill Clinton's "bimbo eruptions" look positively modest.God approving of David was because of his repentance for abusing his position of power in that exact example, and his humility. Solomon is not commended in the Bible for his polygamy etc - his story is extremely sad.
There is no god, and if there were, I would still refuse to have anything to do with such an evil, perverted being.So can you tell me what God you would approve of? I suspect one just like yourself...
The only self-centeredness here is the people who claim, without a single shred of proof, and despite much proof to the contrary, that the bible is "righteous." It's full of shit. Not just figuratively, but literally, since I've wiped my ass with it; contrary to predictions, god didn't strike me dead or inflict a plague on me or anything else.Gracious, isn't he? :-)
Sustained the universe - not to mention that asking whether the being who created you and rules over the universe has done anything for you might be considered a tad self-centered, arrogant, and presumptuous. (And yes, of course I realize you don't believe this...)
Yes, it was just a cheap jibe at the apparent comparison :-)
Ah, the ultimate fallacy of our generation - human life vs TV Ratings, which is more precious?
Actually if you scroll down the page on the linked article you'll see that there is at least one (but probably no more than one toe's worth) GPL'd Windows driver that NDISwrapper loads...
Or, if you want an open source mail server you can install on your own machine, it's called Zimbra or Scalix...
Wow, that's a cool story. Got any links to articles on it?
Even by your own description, this is not entirely a result of choices AMD made. Part of the challenge is building your capacity so you can supply what OEMs need as you describe. But you have to have enough capital to do this - the variations in profit that could have been produced by the anti-competitive practices may have prevented AMD from building up the capital. Yes it's not a sure thing that they would have done it, but it does mean that these practices are worth investigating
I wouldn't be surprised if you could use the ReactOS version of tcpip.sys on a real Windows (although you may discover some bugs
I finally tried Ubuntu around Dapper Drake times. What I discovered is that 98% of all the software I used was either in the Ubuntu or Debian repositories. Pretty much the only thing NOT in the repositories are 5 or 6 dock apps I like to run. So my average install takes about 4 hours now. Install, update, install packages and finally compile the few missing programs.
Unless the Fedora repositories have improved in the last 2 years or so. I can set up a bitchin Fedora Box in no time flat. Then I have to risk it to strange RPMs and possibly end up in dependency hell. Or I have to run down all the devel packages and build all of the goodies I use myself.
The Fedora repositories have improved majorly in the last two years. Notably because instead of having one "official" repository with a limited set of packages, and then Extras, they've all been merged into a similar repository (pretty much like Ubuntu). There are still alternate repositories (mostly because the focus on non-free or legally-troubled software) but the situation is much better than it was beforeThat grandparent needs some adjustment...
I'm from South Africa and he's not a troll, it's a good response to the grandparent
After school I went to university and learned that languages change and prescriptive rules like that are silly :-)
I understand and agree with the comments about the bug reporting system. So file bugs about the bug reporting system :-)
Most of the bugs that stay dormant are feature requests and that's just a case of needing developers who have the time and inclination to work on them.
45 issues filed. Most of them are to do with language support patches and build issues as I worked on South African language support. Some had patches that have been accepted. I know OOo process is sometimes crazily slow but I was just pointing out that it doesn't help to abandon hope - a lot of things are actually fixed. In addition the upstream distro people are often very responsive - I had some crashes of OOo on Fedora fixed pretty quickly.
Any further questions?
What's the bug number? There are other ways to get a bug's profile raised if it's important to you (find the right mailing list / IRC people etc). If it's for enterprise use getting support form Novell or Sun may be a good option and save you in the long run... maybe enquiring with them would be worthwhile. It would at least give you a better idea of the chances of getting your big issues fixed, and potentially help other people too