Riiiight, Europe produced Hitler, Franco, Stalin, and Benito. Asia Produced Mao, Pol-Pot, and Ho Chi Minh. The Middle East gave us Saddam, and Kadafi. Finally Africa and Latin America have given us a hand full of brutal dictators.
Right now there is a Priest in prision in Norway for reading certain parts of the Bible (ones that call Homosexuality a sin), Canada is Leaning the same way. France bans people from wearing their required religous garb...
Compared to all this handywork you think Bush is the big problem???
I don't think many Americans realise how much the world hates your president.
Actually we do, I dont think the world realizes how little we care. When I walked in to vote the last thing on my mind was "what will the aussie's say?", I dont have a wweud (what woould the Europian Union do) Stickers on my car..
Alot of people were reserving their hatred for the American people because they believed no one in their right mind would vote Dubya backin
Well that was nice of them, I mean there is nothing like the smug feeling of giving somebody a pass because they are ignorent..
Well you proved them wrong, though i don't agree with this mentality. I can see alot of people worldwide now hating you the people....
Well I care i drop of urine more about their opinion of me than I do our President..
Abortion: (the people would rather have a man who kills over 15000 Iraqi civilians than allow women the right to choose)
Put yourself in the shoes of someone whi believes human life begins at conception. I am not asking you to agree with it, just pretend you do. Ok you there? Now knowing that more that one hundred thousand children are killed every year and John Kerry would not even ban Partial Birth Abortion (something many on the left voted to ban) how can you vote for Kerry?
Tax: (the common man - which the majority of voters are - supports a man who introduces tax cuts for the rich and is in favour of outsourcing Amreican jobs)
Its plain fact that the lower brackets (those making less money) got a larger break than the rich (the high bracket got 3 cents on the dollar and the lowest got 5 cents on the dollar. If you want to ignore this because youre lazy, biased, or stupid be my guest..
Defense: ('Bush makes me feel safe' - Ah yes, a leader who starts illegal wars and breaks the Geneva convention must make you feel real safe)
A war that Kerry authorized and touted when trying to beat Dean and condemed when trying to win ex Dean Supporters. Both Kerry and Bush are equally responsable for the idiotic way in which Iraq went down.
Me I voted 3rd party, I had no dog in this race but its great seing so many anrgy Liberals..
The final exits for Ohio had Kerry winning 52%-48%.
Yea what are the odds that a poll would have a mirgin of Error or 3%, I mean that would be unheard of amount of error...
Oh WaitWhat is the Margin of Error for an exit poll?
Every number estimated from a sample may depart from the official vote count. The difference between a sample result and the number one would get if everyone who cast a vote was interviewed in exactly the same way is called the sampling error. That does not mean the sample result is wrong. Instead, it refers to the potential error due to sampling. The margin of error for a 95% confidence interval is about +/- 3% for a typical characteristic from the national exit poll and +/-4% for a typical state exit poll. Characteristics that are more concentrated in a few polling places, such as race, have larger sampling errors. Other nonsampling factors may increase the total error.
Not having a go at you, but I love how the Bush camp is suddenly throwing around the "popular vote" line all of a sudden. Shame they didn't drag it out last time when the result really was in dispute.
Yea and if Kerry had won Ohio by one vote (or was even within a reasonable distance Kerry people would be screaming that Ohio needs to be recounted because it decides the EC.
Bush didn't deserve this win. He's hurting the core (literally - those states in the middle) of the US with his policies, but hiding it behind his religion. And they keep on voting for him.
Thats why we have elections, most people it seems dont agree with you.
So its in the nations best interest to put down some people at the expense of others because bad things happened long ago...
Here I thought it was in the nations best interest to promote equality. Being married into an immigrant family I know too well the lie of 'they need help'. In one generation they go from not speaking English and not having a penny to their name to their kids in grad school.
Thats why the new rediculous push to exclude African Immigrants from receiving AA benefits, they were taking too many of them because like immigrants they had their crap together..
Clinton tax policy supporting high tech innovation caused the tech boom.
Yea cause the technology actualyl maturing over the past 20 years had little to do with it. Nor did the Republicans who held both houses of congress and thus were the only ones who could set tax policy...
So do we give Clinton credit for the nasdaqq colapsing as well, it happened under his tax policies. Also the Bush budget did not take effect until Fiscal year 2002 so are all the lost jobs in 2001 also clintons fault.
Fact: THE PRESIDENT HAS MUCH LESS TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY THAN PEOPLE THINK..
Unemployment is the exact same now as 1996. The jobs created under Clinton (and a republican house / senate) were created by the internet bubble not by any policy of Clintons.
Look Enjoy the kool-aid and have a safe election day..
Budget: fail This i will give you but I did not see any democrats vote against spending measures Foreign Policy: fail Yea the whole libya giving up its wmd program was a terrible failure, as for Europe they were bound to get pissed when we turned off the oil for money err I mean food scam they were running with the UN. Education: fail Gee Bush has increased spending more than 50% even *TED KENNEDY* voted for his education bill, so is it really a Bush problem? Jobs: fail Unemployemnt is right now where is was under Clinton in 1996 was he a failure?
The "pickup-truck" Republicans "are nearly a laugh; they're nearly a laugh, but they're really a cry": - It's like watching Clarence Thomas sit on the bench and rule against Affirmative Action after that's what got him through college, graduate and law school.
Thats the sad part of Affirmative action, rich white liberals dont think Black people can make it unless they are given in's.
You mean the 21st centruy Hitler, Franco, Stallin, and other euopians would have brought us or the 21st centruty that Christofascist America created by saving you from them?
There actually are some honest companies out there. If we can get rid of the corrupt CEO's and cut down on executive salaries, then we would be moving in the right direction. While I am liberal, I miss the days of the fiscal conservative... at least I can understand where they're coming from.
That thing flying over your head, that was the point you missed....
Where do you think the company got 1.75 Billion? Thats right they got it frmo teh comsumers. When you tax business they pass that on to the people who buy their products..
Wages have stagnated in real terms since the 1970s
In the last frou years of Clinton the average salary in the nation went up 3 thousand dollars, during the frist three years of the Bush administration the average wage went up three thousand dollars. Unemployemnt is almost exactly where it was in 1996 when Clinton got reelected. Finally lets look at the median which is a better measure (in 2003 Dollars, from the US census):
1997-2000: Up 4,000 Dollars
2000-2003: Up 3,300 Dollars
So no wages have not stagnated, and given that Clinton did not have to deal with 9/11 and a Nasdaq crash (which *did* happen very late under Clinton) Bush has not done an aweful job on the economy. The median and Mean incomes in the US are higher. You can tout the John Kerry mantra all you want but the facts dont agree.
As an aside I am not voting for Bush or Kerry. Bush did not get a specific declaration of War for Iraq and Kerry used the used of force crap to save his bacon from Dean (make himslef look centrist) and then after he won the promary is trying to be the anti-war candidate.
Can the president do his job in Florida? Can john Kerry vote while in Flordia? Even Walter MOndale had the stones to resign when running for pres in 84'
so as a heterosexual atheist, should I be allowed to get married? The state is willing to perform the marriage for me; why not for gays?
Try reading again... Yes you should be able to be married *By a Church*, so should a Homosexual if a church will do so. The government should only confer Civil unions for both you and a homosexual.
I have always said all conflicts in the history of man were based on resources (gold, food, sex, oil) or direct power (alliances). Leaders have always used something to rally around what used to be God has been replaced with Democracy/Communism/The Crown..
For example, may people currently get married either as a result of, or in preparation for, having children. Children generally go to school. Schooling is generally paid, or at least subsidised by the state, and I think I'd be fairly safe to say that it costs more to send a child through the school system, than it does to keep an adult healthy and happy. And of course there is the healthcare cost for the mother of the children as well.
And when that healthy adult becomes old and there is not tax base to support them is that a better situation? Do you know why SS is in trouble? in the 70's there were more than 35 people paying in for every person receiving, now we are down to 3:1
Traditionally senators have always retired after getting thier party's noimination because they cant do their job from California. The president can do his Job from anywhere it may be unfair but so is robbing two states of half their senate representation.
I was under the impression Bob dole *did* retire when running for the presidency. If he did not he should have. I am curious what his absentee rate was when running.
I am gaining a lot of respect for former presidential candidate Bob Dole, who resigned from the Senate (and his powerful position as Senate minority leader) when he ran against President Clinton in 1996.
Bob dole retired Jun 11 1996 so that he could focus on the election.
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Right now there is a Priest in prision in Norway for reading certain parts of the Bible (ones that call Homosexuality a sin), Canada is Leaning the same way. France bans people from wearing their required religous garb...
Compared to all this handywork you think Bush is the big problem???
Actually we do, I dont think the world realizes how little we care. When I walked in to vote the last thing on my mind was "what will the aussie's say?", I dont have a wweud (what woould the Europian Union do) Stickers on my car..
Alot of people were reserving their hatred for the American people because they believed no one in their right mind would vote Dubya backin
Well that was nice of them, I mean there is nothing like the smug feeling of giving somebody a pass because they are ignorent..
Well you proved them wrong, though i don't agree with this mentality. I can see alot of people worldwide now hating you the people....
Well I care i drop of urine more about their opinion of me than I do our President..
Put yourself in the shoes of someone whi believes human life begins at conception. I am not asking you to agree with it, just pretend you do. Ok you there? Now knowing that more that one hundred thousand children are killed every year and John Kerry would not even ban Partial Birth Abortion (something many on the left voted to ban) how can you vote for Kerry?
Tax: (the common man - which the majority of voters are - supports a man who introduces tax cuts for the rich and is in favour of outsourcing Amreican jobs)
Its plain fact that the lower brackets (those making less money) got a larger break than the rich (the high bracket got 3 cents on the dollar and the lowest got 5 cents on the dollar. If you want to ignore this because youre lazy, biased, or stupid be my guest..
Defense: ('Bush makes me feel safe' - Ah yes, a leader who starts illegal wars and breaks the Geneva convention must make you feel real safe)
A war that Kerry authorized and touted when trying to beat Dean and condemed when trying to win ex Dean Supporters. Both Kerry and Bush are equally responsable for the idiotic way in which Iraq went down.
Me I voted 3rd party, I had no dog in this race but its great seing so many anrgy Liberals..
Hold the door for others moving..
Yea what are the odds that a poll would have a mirgin of Error or 3%, I mean that would be unheard of amount of error...
Oh Wait What is the Margin of Error for an exit poll? Every number estimated from a sample may depart from the official vote count. The difference between a sample result and the number one would get if everyone who cast a vote was interviewed in exactly the same way is called the sampling error. That does not mean the sample result is wrong. Instead, it refers to the potential error due to sampling. The margin of error for a 95% confidence interval is about +/- 3% for a typical characteristic from the national exit poll and +/-4% for a typical state exit poll. Characteristics that are more concentrated in a few polling places, such as race, have larger sampling errors. Other nonsampling factors may increase the total error.
Yea and if Kerry had won Ohio by one vote (or was even within a reasonable distance Kerry people would be screaming that Ohio needs to be recounted because it decides the EC.
Bush didn't deserve this win. He's hurting the core (literally - those states in the middle) of the US with his policies, but hiding it behind his religion. And they keep on voting for him.
Thats why we have elections, most people it seems dont agree with you.
Uh huh, and the president who signed NAFTA nad GAT into law was??
Here I thought it was in the nations best interest to promote equality. Being married into an immigrant family I know too well the lie of 'they need help'. In one generation they go from not speaking English and not having a penny to their name to their kids in grad school.
Thats why the new rediculous push to exclude African Immigrants from receiving AA benefits, they were taking too many of them because like immigrants they had their crap together..
So you are saying in 1994, 1995, and 1996 that there was not one tax measure passed?
Yea cause the technology actualyl maturing over the past 20 years had little to do with it. Nor did the Republicans who held both houses of congress and thus were the only ones who could set tax policy...
Fact: THE PRESIDENT HAS MUCH LESS TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY THAN PEOPLE THINK..
Look Enjoy the kool-aid and have a safe election day..
Budget: fail This i will give you but I did not see any democrats vote against spending measures
Foreign Policy: fail Yea the whole libya giving up its wmd program was a terrible failure, as for Europe they were bound to get pissed when we turned off the oil for money err I mean food scam they were running with the UN.
Education: fail Gee Bush has increased spending more than 50% even *TED KENNEDY* voted for his education bill, so is it really a Bush problem?
Jobs: fail Unemployemnt is right now where is was under Clinton in 1996 was he a failure?
Thats the sad part of Affirmative action, rich white liberals dont think Black people can make it unless they are given in's.
You mean the 21st centruy Hitler, Franco, Stallin, and other euopians would have brought us or the 21st centruty that Christofascist America created by saving you from them?
That thing flying over your head, that was the point you missed....
Where do you think the company got 1.75 Billion? Thats right they got it frmo teh comsumers. When you tax business they pass that on to the people who buy their products..
In the last frou years of Clinton the average salary in the nation went up 3 thousand dollars, during the frist three years of the Bush administration the average wage went up three thousand dollars. Unemployemnt is almost exactly where it was in 1996 when Clinton got reelected. Finally lets look at the median which is a better measure (in 2003 Dollars, from the US census):
1997-2000: Up 4,000 Dollars 2000-2003: Up 3,300 Dollars
So no wages have not stagnated, and given that Clinton did not have to deal with 9/11 and a Nasdaq crash (which *did* happen very late under Clinton) Bush has not done an aweful job on the economy. The median and Mean incomes in the US are higher. You can tout the John Kerry mantra all you want but the facts dont agree.
As an aside I am not voting for Bush or Kerry. Bush did not get a specific declaration of War for Iraq and Kerry used the used of force crap to save his bacon from Dean (make himslef look centrist) and then after he won the promary is trying to be the anti-war candidate.
Can the president do his job in Florida? Can john Kerry vote while in Flordia? Even Walter MOndale had the stones to resign when running for pres in 84'
Because children do not cost the state more, the children grow up and pay taxes that support the older generation..
Try reading again... Yes you should be able to be married *By a Church*, so should a Homosexual if a church will do so. The government should only confer Civil unions for both you and a homosexual.
I have always said all conflicts in the history of man were based on resources (gold, food, sex, oil) or direct power (alliances). Leaders have always used something to rally around what used to be God has been replaced with Democracy/Communism/The Crown ..
And when that healthy adult becomes old and there is not tax base to support them is that a better situation? Do you know why SS is in trouble? in the 70's there were more than 35 people paying in for every person receiving, now we are down to 3:1
Traditionally senators have always retired after getting thier party's noimination because they cant do their job from California. The president can do his Job from anywhere it may be unfair but so is robbing two states of half their senate representation.
I am gaining a lot of respect for former presidential candidate Bob Dole, who resigned from the Senate (and his powerful position as Senate minority leader) when he ran against President Clinton in 1996.
Bob dole retired Jun 11 1996 so that he could focus on the election.
Then he and John Edwards should have resigned from the senate..