the only Unix(tm) I've seen at the banks who are my company's clients is NonStop. I've also seen Alpha with VMS and the usual IBM mainframe systems. No solaris yet, though I'm sure there might be some out there.
as for Ultrasparc, who needs a box that is tied to running only one OS that is rapidly now falling BEHIND what enterprise GNU/Linux distros can do? UltraSparc has been falling behind in performance too, can they introduce something that beats Intel and AMD's new chips? Intel and AMD have roadmaps too.
and why couldn't soon-to-be released Intel and AMD based systems also be doing those "esoteric highend systems" jobs? Once we get into 32-way and up whether by 8 chips with quad cores or whatever, I don't see UltraSparc being too cost effective or useful.
people have already used flash memory as system disks, who says you need tmp files, logfiles that are frequently written, or a web cache? All those things can be eliminated by configuration for Unix-like OS. I can put tmp files on a ram disk, I don't *need* to have a web cache on disk (or anywhere else), and I can choose what gets logged.
it also had the broader meaning of any spirit cut with water but unsweetened. So this honey-sweetened drink is NOT grog in any sense. (don't argue with us slashdot boozers, we know our shit!)
I heard they will put in a mechanism similar to that of self-winding watches; the user will need to wank off every 3 hours to keep tension in the mainspring.
Did pilot Oracle on Linux project for large midwestern city, been busy building enterprise class systems for county governments and cities since. The first systems are still cranking along, doing revenue and licensing and vehicle tracknig and such. So I think Gartner is a little behind the times, what with IBM and HP selling big robust hardware/software supported SMP servers for a couple flavors of GNU/Linux
being over 40, I recall exactly two Unix viruses that were of any consequence in the last 25 years. (and yes, one was really bad & expensive). So I'm not sure where or when all this hacking & being eaten you speak of was taking place.
We're still waiting for the first Mac OSX virus. This silly malware mentioned in article is shell script only a moron would run with elevated privileges.
go to HP's website and see they are *still* selling Alpha based servers. This is the last year for them, though. so what's this nonsense about "ditched", they've been selling Alpha machines for the six years since 1999?
"As part of the agreement, the companies will work together on a range of joint marketing, sales, training, business development and support programs"
Sounds like more than typical product selling partnership to me
Those neutron stars are the product of stellar cores collapsing into a neutron star you're kidding! I thought those neutron stars were the product of stellar cores collapsing into a almond crusted colby yule log.
The Microsoft unix services are mainly made of PC-NFS (from mid-90's, which included nfs, telnet, ftp and some other basic things. very inferior to cygwin. sure for printing and basic file sharing it'll work, but for high order Unix integration it's useless. also the X11 stuff in there is particularly bad
You're righ, there was a huge failure by goverment to do its most basic job, there's a dire need for leadership and authority to direct things at the convention center and superdome and no doubt some other places where huge amounts of refugees are gathered. Lack of that leadership is getting hundreds if not soon thousands of people slowly killed. Maybe some key officials are afraid to get too close and get their hands dirty and put themselves at risk.
see, nows there's a legitimate application for those obscene Burger King Triple Decker Whopper meals (oh yeah, Biggie Size it and add "cheese" and bacon!)
the French also drink wine like we drink water, relax, fuck like rabbits and have more vacation time. puritan work ethic, sexual repression and making alchohol a "controlled substance" is killing us.
let's also let your Chimp Force run two of the three branches of government. We'd get a smarter president and a congress that wasn't a bunch of money/power grubbing egomaniac lying dirtbags.
the actual cost savings after all the hassle and risk of outsourcing to India has been shown to at best be about 21%.....there's plenty of ways we could get that kind of savings and keep the work here within the country. It was fashionable and hip to outsource to India, and managers have been cooking the numbers ever since to show it was a good thing.
well, there's some other machines out there too, some banks use VMS boxes, with Alpha reaching end of life maybe those will become Itanium2 VMS machines, or maybe they'll just say "screw it" and go with some IBM midrange Unix or Linux box or lower end mainframe.
and the NonStop OS they run is a Unix. Now HP has ported the thing to Itanium2 from MIPS, wonder if it will catch on......thus far the clients are staying away in droves, what with the Itanium basically being a "supercomputer" type architecture with very long pipelines and great floating/vector support but nothing needed by 90% of business computing
Having dealt with outsourced projects, I can tell you from experience that IT MOST DEFINITELY IS an issue. Sure, the average worker might be made to work at graveyard shift hours, but if you need to talk to decision maker/executive who is high up the corporate chain, it' a pain in the ass, and you can feel their irritation of having disturbed their U.S. dollar-fed lordly fat ass halfway around the globe
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the only Unix(tm) I've seen at the banks who are my company's clients is NonStop. I've also seen Alpha with VMS and the usual IBM mainframe systems. No solaris yet, though I'm sure there might be some out there.
I can buy an 8 way x86-64 box here and now, why would I sit on my keister waiting for Sun to make one? For the pretty logo?
as for Ultrasparc, who needs a box that is tied to running only one OS that is rapidly now falling BEHIND what enterprise GNU/Linux distros can do? UltraSparc has been falling behind in performance too, can they introduce something that beats Intel and AMD's new chips? Intel and AMD have roadmaps too.
and why couldn't soon-to-be released Intel and AMD based systems also be doing those "esoteric highend systems" jobs? Once we get into 32-way and up whether by 8 chips with quad cores or whatever, I don't see UltraSparc being too cost effective or useful.
whoa, there...you're saying talking to a paid telemarketer IS GIVING A SHIT ABOUT AN ISSUE????? get a clue, pal.
people have already used flash memory as system disks, who says you need tmp files, logfiles that are frequently written, or a web cache? All those things can be eliminated by configuration for Unix-like OS. I can put tmp files on a ram disk, I don't *need* to have a web cache on disk (or anywhere else), and I can choose what gets logged.
it also had the broader meaning of any spirit cut with water but unsweetened. So this honey-sweetened drink is NOT grog in any sense. (don't argue with us slashdot boozers, we know our shit!)
ye means the stagnant water we be makin' an excuse to be drinkin' the rum, we were. yaarrr!
I heard they will put in a mechanism similar to that of self-winding watches; the user will need to wank off every 3 hours to keep tension in the mainspring.
no, but it can sure gun your cock
Did pilot Oracle on Linux project for large midwestern city, been busy building enterprise class systems for county governments and cities since. The first systems are still cranking along, doing revenue and licensing and vehicle tracknig and such. So I think Gartner is a little behind the times, what with IBM and HP selling big robust hardware/software supported SMP servers for a couple flavors of GNU/Linux
being over 40, I recall exactly two Unix viruses that were of any consequence in the last 25 years. (and yes, one was really bad & expensive). So I'm not sure where or when all this hacking & being eaten you speak of was taking place.
We're still waiting for the first Mac OSX virus. This silly malware mentioned in article is shell script only a moron would run with elevated privileges.
go to HP's website and see they are *still* selling Alpha based servers. This is the last year for them, though. so what's this nonsense about "ditched", they've been selling Alpha machines for the six years since 1999?
"As part of the agreement, the companies will work together on a range of joint marketing, sales, training, business development and support programs" Sounds like more than typical product selling partnership to me
Those neutron stars are the product of stellar cores collapsing into a neutron star you're kidding! I thought those neutron stars were the product of stellar cores collapsing into a almond crusted colby yule log.
The Microsoft unix services are mainly made of PC-NFS (from mid-90's, which included nfs, telnet, ftp and some other basic things. very inferior to cygwin. sure for printing and basic file sharing it'll work, but for high order Unix integration it's useless. also the X11 stuff in there is particularly bad
You're righ, there was a huge failure by goverment to do its most basic job, there's a dire need for leadership and authority to direct things at the convention center and superdome and no doubt some other places where huge amounts of refugees are gathered. Lack of that leadership is getting hundreds if not soon thousands of people slowly killed. Maybe some key officials are afraid to get too close and get their hands dirty and put themselves at risk.
see, nows there's a legitimate application for those obscene Burger King Triple Decker Whopper meals (oh yeah, Biggie Size it and add "cheese" and bacon!)
the French also drink wine like we drink water, relax, fuck like rabbits and have more vacation time. puritan work ethic, sexual repression and making alchohol a "controlled substance" is killing us.
let's also let your Chimp Force run two of the three branches of government. We'd get a smarter president and a congress that wasn't a bunch of money/power grubbing egomaniac lying dirtbags.
the actual cost savings after all the hassle and risk of outsourcing to India has been shown to at best be about 21% .....there's plenty of ways we could get that kind of savings and keep the work here within the country. It was fashionable and hip to outsource to India, and managers have been cooking the numbers ever since to show it was a good thing.
water is a wonderful radiation shield, borate it and it gets even better, I'd never walk by any spent fuel pool without it!
well, there's some other machines out there too, some banks use VMS boxes, with Alpha reaching end of life maybe those will become Itanium2 VMS machines, or maybe they'll just say "screw it" and go with some IBM midrange Unix or Linux box or lower end mainframe.
and the NonStop OS they run is a Unix. Now HP has ported the thing to Itanium2 from MIPS, wonder if it will catch on......thus far the clients are staying away in droves, what with the Itanium basically being a "supercomputer" type architecture with very long pipelines and great floating/vector support but nothing needed by 90% of business computing
Having dealt with outsourced projects, I can tell you from experience that IT MOST DEFINITELY IS an issue. Sure, the average worker might be made to work at graveyard shift hours, but if you need to talk to decision maker/executive who is high up the corporate chain, it' a pain in the ass, and you can feel their irritation of having disturbed their U.S. dollar-fed lordly fat ass halfway around the globe