Strange, 20 years ago I was taught other people had experimental evidence agreeing with a prediction that the effects of gravity move at light speed:
In 1882 Simon Newcomb observed an excessive perturbation in precession of the orbit of mercury, to the tune of 43 seconds of arc per century. In 1915, Albert Einstein showed this could be explained by the propogation of gravitic wave effects at the speed of light...
There's actually more to that......."The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long....and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy.......aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAH" *crunch* *slop* (brains slopping out ears and eye sockets as Roy crushes Tyrell's skull)
Yay Blade Runner, the greatest sci-fi movie EVER made!!!!
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I wonder how Oracle would do on this sort of puppy?
You've a good idea there; hope someone at SGI has the brains to talk to a couple database manufacturers to get a port to Linux/Itanium....could save SGI.
I've always been able to read my old previous year's T-Tax file with the software for the new year....even to print it out. What's the beef, I'm wondering? Must be like you say, thieves pissed they can't pirate it around any more.
Also, unlike most helpdesks on planet earth, I found the T-Tax one to actually be USEFUL, FRIENDLY and HELPFUL when I had a problem getting the purchased package to recognize & integrate the state tax module I downloaded from the web.
This slashdot article reminds me it's time to go to Sam's Club and pick up this year's copy, and to load it on my Ultra-Secure High-Reliabilty Financial Supercomputer (old Dell GXA 300MHz running windows 98se....hahaha!)
A person might be in a big hurry to get their hands on a large refund, and thus use Turbo-Tax or similar software to get their refund in 2 weeks.....filing a paper return it's going to take MUCH longer.
Tax software also lets one easily compare itemization vs. standard deductions, alternative ways of accounting for things, etc.....for less than $50 I just find it's worth the small cost.
I used to manually file when I had a full time job, plus 2 consulting side jobs, and money market accounts....so I do appreciate the time saved.
Great news, I have refined your theory to 100% certainty it is between 38 years and googleplexplex-plex-plex^googol-plexity-plex-plex etc..........it was around in 1964, but before that I'm not sure since I wasn't paying attention before I was born.
Oh well, guess I'll continue to make my living with half-assed designed-by-Rube-Goldberg-character-on-crack languages like Java, Perl and C++....and even COBOL sometimes. In the immortal words of Bill the Cat, "Aaacckkpfpfpth! Bleck!"
Common LISP openings on dice: 0
Jobs which mentioned LISP as possible scripting language (must know a scripting language such as Perl, LISP...etc.) 8
Jobs mentioning AutoLISP, the dialect for the AutoCAD package: 2
Slashdotters who think you ARE the Mentifex nutter: 543,454
I've had the same problems and issues using other people's C code as C++ code.....I also know I do a LOT more typing using C than C++ (and about 1/10 the typing using a Very High Level language like Ruby). But of course I wouldn't want my kernel to be in Ruby or my device drivers in C++...but of course, the assembly language guy is going to say you're not thinking about your register & stack & heap allocations, or layout of your data segment
My father and brother like to cut auto parts out of solid chunks of steel rather than buy them at the auto store, which is great for the drag strip but not for when their spouses want the family car fixed in a hurry.....and lazy me I just take my car to the shop:)
oh yes, I know that for more than 99.999999% of the time that is the case. But I once had a job in manufacturing world where one-time data conversions were done from disparate sources into CADD models....and different languages or software tools were the best one in each case...and the stuff NEVER used again, and the original data source compared manually against CADD model at the end, so no one even wanted to see or save or hear about the code.
jobs by OS on dice:
Windows 2229
Solaris 685
Linux 399
AIX 367
AS/400 or OS/400 287
HP/UX 191
Novell 165
VMS 61
Mac or MacOS or System 7 58
RTOS 58
VM 31
IRIX 18
BSD 18
OS/2 13
SCO 8
Darwin 6
BeOS 0
CHORUS 0
MINIX 0
HURD 0
Of course, instead of using Inheritance, you could learn an OO language and make object methods that set/change private internal function pointer attributes......if I had your philosophy (and I do understand some of the good points of thinking that way, I'd rather have someone design a kernel thinking your way than the OO way) I would do it just for the fun of pissing OO zealots off, would be fun:)
Of course, my philosophy is the opposite, I like OO languages that even go so far as to "hook" or intercept method calls outside of the inheritance chain...
I feel your pain....only 8 job listings in all of Dice for my favorite language, Ruby (probably 100's in Japan, but none in U.S.). Zero listings for Haskell (just 6 matches for a company that had "Haskell Avenue or something in address). Maybe someday I'll be lucky enough to have a job again where they only care about results, not the language used.
In George Orwell's 1984, we have
1. Control of the mass mediums of the day (Gibson makes point that radio the cyberspace of the turn of century), including use of mass media in reverse to monitor population
2. Machine that can alter perception of reality and judgement/truth sense
3. Scarce resources due to folly of man
5. Engineering of comunication (goal of Party to design language in which the communication of rebellious thoughts impossible) to control thought
6. Systematic alteration of the database of history
7. Use of technology to eliminate privacy
8. Drugs to pacify and control
What I was *saying* is that more & more people will *have* to use Linux on the desktop, and not by their choice. And more & more "silly ignorant business types" as you put it are the ones who are/will push it. Maybe not the happiest situation, but the real live work world is like that. I didn't say it was good, just that it is happening
And I like OpenBSD much more than I like Linux.
Also, people may not know what is the *best* tool for their job if they haven't tried alternatives. The designers and drafters who worked for me found Pro/E on an UltraSparc with Solaris to be much better for the work they needed to do than running it on NT / Wintel, once they had a chance to try it. And people running MASS-11 word processing on a VAX found they liked the Mac IIci and WYSIWYG word processors much better, once they had a chance to try it, and so I had to requisition a couple dozen of those.
You know, I can't believe how many people don't realize the earth has been MUCH COLDER than it is right now, and it also has been MUCH WARMER than it is right now. I can guarantee you that whatever forces make the earth's climate change like that will completely overpower & dominate whatever small contributions man's technology make to global temperature. *Hint* Insolation is the key & driver of earth's climate.
The "cost" mentioned in original post was effort by end users to learn, not dollar cost. And "conversion" meant user switching, not the effort of translating data files, training, etc. Certainly monetary cost, data conversion, & new procedures need to be justified. I know of companies that are doing desktop change to Linux...they've done the justifications and are doing it. The C?0's are the ones driving it, and that's the only way it will happen in most traditional (non-computer software/hardware/serverices) corporations
I think perceived "harsh tone" mostly came from my use of "(l)user", which is only humorous way of referring to end user...I've been the end (l)user & (ab)user myself on systems adminned by others for many years. Also, when I do turbotax and photo work on my windows 98se box and it seizes up I am (l)user.
No, it is not up to sysadmins or IT to make that choice, and it will not be me who forces anyone to use it. I am talking about more & more OWNERS & EXECUTIVES of companies making a choice not to use Microsoft's products (and they are the ones who have the RIGHT to do so), and their employees will use what system they are told to use. In a business setting the phrases "Linux is about freedom and choice" have absolutely no relevance whatever. A company exists to make money, not to give its employees the OS they would like.
At least as far as the corporate desktop, people will use whatever the company they work for *tells* them to use..........and for that reason, and that reason alone, Linux can beome a serious desktop competitor without having to lower any conversion cost.....the (l)users will be TOLD to convert.
Microsoft can have the home game/personal finance/entertainment machine market...because if they only have that, they are going out of business because the price of a home PC is lowering to the point the "Microsoft Tax" is too much!
Working with *real* reagents one can learn that in the real world reactions don't have 100% yield, real reagents have impurities, improper techniques can lead to erroneous results......I think that playing with sticks & balls or modelling electron clouds on a PC is fine, but it's only one very tiny part of chemistry.
Take the first quarter or semester of general chemistry at a local two year community college...if you like it, then finish the general coursework, then figure out if you next want to take physical, organic, inorganic......
The VERY popular packages usually do wind up having debs and rpms.....the ones that don't, maybe a beginner should avoid them. Of course, there are *many* other distros of Linux and other free OS's out there, and for someone who is trying to code for all of them the tgz with portable code is the way they're going to do it, but as you point out they sometimes fail...sounds like for you, and whatever kind of software you like, its often failing....I know for me its about 1 in 20 that need some kind of tweak to get it to work, but if I wasn't a programmer I'd sure be pissed.
Wait till a certain Unix-like OS takes over Europe, Asia, and India, because it can run on very cheap equipment yet support the latest networking & languages, and doesn't require licensing or upgrade fees. 90% of the world will not be using Microsoft in 5 - 10 years.
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Strange, 20 years ago I was taught other people had experimental evidence agreeing with a prediction that the effects of gravity move at light speed:
In 1882 Simon Newcomb observed an excessive perturbation in precession of the orbit of mercury, to the tune of 43 seconds of arc per century. In 1915, Albert Einstein showed this could be explained by the propogation of gravitic wave effects at the speed of light...
But thanks for playing.....
There's actually more to that......."The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long....and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy.......aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAH" *crunch* *slop* (brains slopping out ears and eye sockets as Roy crushes Tyrell's skull)
Yay Blade Runner, the greatest sci-fi movie EVER made!!!!
I wonder how Oracle would do on this sort of puppy?
You've a good idea there; hope someone at SGI has the brains to talk to a couple database manufacturers to get a port to Linux/Itanium....could save SGI.
oh come on now, MOST rebates (if not ALL) have a time limit, usually 30 days.......
I've always been able to read my old previous year's T-Tax file with the software for the new year....even to print it out. What's the beef, I'm wondering? Must be like you say, thieves pissed they can't pirate it around any more.
Also, unlike most helpdesks on planet earth, I found the T-Tax one to actually be USEFUL, FRIENDLY and HELPFUL when I had a problem getting the purchased package to recognize & integrate the state tax module I downloaded from the web.
This slashdot article reminds me it's time to go to Sam's Club and pick up this year's copy, and to load it on my Ultra-Secure High-Reliabilty Financial Supercomputer (old Dell GXA 300MHz running windows 98se....hahaha!)
A person might be in a big hurry to get their hands on a large refund, and thus use Turbo-Tax or similar software to get their refund in 2 weeks.....filing a paper return it's going to take MUCH longer.
Tax software also lets one easily compare itemization vs. standard deductions, alternative ways of accounting for things, etc.....for less than $50 I just find it's worth the small cost. I used to manually file when I had a full time job, plus 2 consulting side jobs, and money market accounts....so I do appreciate the time saved.
Great news, I have refined your theory to 100% certainty it is between 38 years and googleplexplex-plex-plex^googol-plexity-plex-plex etc..........it was around in 1964, but before that I'm not sure since I wasn't paying attention before I was born.
Ouch! my other favorite language!
Oh well, guess I'll continue to make my living with half-assed designed-by-Rube-Goldberg-character-on-crack languages like Java, Perl and C++....and even COBOL sometimes. In the immortal words of Bill the Cat, "Aaacckkpfpfpth! Bleck!"
Common LISP openings on dice: 0
Jobs which mentioned LISP as possible scripting language (must know a scripting language such as Perl, LISP...etc.) 8
Jobs mentioning AutoLISP, the dialect for the AutoCAD package: 2
Slashdotters who think you ARE the Mentifex nutter: 543,454
(last stat was a joke)
Taking Japan by storm, anyway.....too bad not here
I've had the same problems and issues using other people's C code as C++ code.....I also know I do a LOT more typing using C than C++ (and about 1/10 the typing using a Very High Level language like Ruby). But of course I wouldn't want my kernel to be in Ruby or my device drivers in C++...but of course, the assembly language guy is going to say you're not thinking about your register & stack & heap allocations, or layout of your data segment :)
My father and brother like to cut auto parts out of solid chunks of steel rather than buy them at the auto store, which is great for the drag strip but not for when their spouses want the family car fixed in a hurry.....and lazy me I just take my car to the shop
oh yes, I know that for more than 99.999999% of the time that is the case. But I once had a job in manufacturing world where one-time data conversions were done from disparate sources into CADD models....and different languages or software tools were the best one in each case...and the stuff NEVER used again, and the original data source compared manually against CADD model at the end, so no one even wanted to see or save or hear about the code.
jobs by OS on dice: Windows 2229 Solaris 685 Linux 399 AIX 367 AS/400 or OS/400 287 HP/UX 191 Novell 165 VMS 61 Mac or MacOS or System 7 58 RTOS 58 VM 31 IRIX 18 BSD 18 OS/2 13 SCO 8 Darwin 6 BeOS 0 CHORUS 0 MINIX 0 HURD 0
Of course, instead of using Inheritance, you could learn an OO language and make object methods that set/change private internal function pointer attributes......if I had your philosophy (and I do understand some of the good points of thinking that way, I'd rather have someone design a kernel thinking your way than the OO way) I would do it just for the fun of pissing OO zealots off, would be fun :)
Of course, my philosophy is the opposite, I like OO languages that even go so far as to "hook" or intercept method calls outside of the inheritance chain...
I feel your pain....only 8 job listings in all of Dice for my favorite language, Ruby (probably 100's in Japan, but none in U.S.). Zero listings for Haskell (just 6 matches for a company that had "Haskell Avenue or something in address). Maybe someday I'll be lucky enough to have a job again where they only care about results, not the language used.
In George Orwell's 1984, we have
1. Control of the mass mediums of the day (Gibson makes point that radio the cyberspace of the turn of century), including use of mass media in reverse to monitor population
2. Machine that can alter perception of reality and judgement/truth sense
3. Scarce resources due to folly of man
5. Engineering of comunication (goal of Party to design language in which the communication of rebellious thoughts impossible) to control thought
6. Systematic alteration of the database of history
7. Use of technology to eliminate privacy
8. Drugs to pacify and control
What I was *saying* is that more & more people will *have* to use Linux on the desktop, and not by their choice. And more & more "silly ignorant business types" as you put it are the ones who are/will push it. Maybe not the happiest situation, but the real live work world is like that. I didn't say it was good, just that it is happening
And I like OpenBSD much more than I like Linux.
Also, people may not know what is the *best* tool for their job if they haven't tried alternatives. The designers and drafters who worked for me found Pro/E on an UltraSparc with Solaris to be much better for the work they needed to do than running it on NT / Wintel, once they had a chance to try it. And people running MASS-11 word processing on a VAX found they liked the Mac IIci and WYSIWYG word processors much better, once they had a chance to try it, and so I had to requisition a couple dozen of those.
And, consequently, what should we ban to stop it?
Ban Bovine Flatulence!!! Cork your Cow!
You know, I can't believe how many people don't realize the earth has been MUCH COLDER than it is right now, and it also has been MUCH WARMER than it is right now. I can guarantee you that whatever forces make the earth's climate change like that will completely overpower & dominate whatever small contributions man's technology make to global temperature. *Hint* Insolation is the key & driver of earth's climate.
The "cost" mentioned in original post was effort by end users to learn, not dollar cost. And "conversion" meant user switching, not the effort of translating data files, training, etc. Certainly monetary cost, data conversion, & new procedures need to be justified. I know of companies that are doing desktop change to Linux...they've done the justifications and are doing it. The C?0's are the ones driving it, and that's the only way it will happen in most traditional (non-computer software/hardware/serverices) corporations
I think perceived "harsh tone" mostly came from my use of "(l)user", which is only humorous way of referring to end user...I've been the end (l)user & (ab)user myself on systems adminned by others for many years. Also, when I do turbotax and photo work on my windows 98se box and it seizes up I am (l)user.
No, it is not up to sysadmins or IT to make that choice, and it will not be me who forces anyone to use it. I am talking about more & more OWNERS & EXECUTIVES of companies making a choice not to use Microsoft's products (and they are the ones who have the RIGHT to do so), and their employees will use what system they are told to use. In a business setting the phrases "Linux is about freedom and choice" have absolutely no relevance whatever. A company exists to make money, not to give its employees the OS they would like.
At least as far as the corporate desktop, people will use whatever the company they work for *tells* them to use..........and for that reason, and that reason alone, Linux can beome a serious desktop competitor without having to lower any conversion cost.....the (l)users will be TOLD to convert.
Microsoft can have the home game/personal finance/entertainment machine market...because if they only have that, they are going out of business because the price of a home PC is lowering to the point the "Microsoft Tax" is too much!
Working with *real* reagents one can learn that in the real world reactions don't have 100% yield, real reagents have impurities, improper techniques can lead to erroneous results......I think that playing with sticks & balls or modelling electron clouds on a PC is fine, but it's only one very tiny part of chemistry.
Take the first quarter or semester of general chemistry at a local two year community college...if you like it, then finish the general coursework, then figure out if you next want to take physical, organic, inorganic......
The VERY popular packages usually do wind up having debs and rpms.....the ones that don't, maybe a beginner should avoid them. Of course, there are *many* other distros of Linux and other free OS's out there, and for someone who is trying to code for all of them the tgz with portable code is the way they're going to do it, but as you point out they sometimes fail...sounds like for you, and whatever kind of software you like, its often failing....I know for me its about 1 in 20 that need some kind of tweak to get it to work, but if I wasn't a programmer I'd sure be pissed.
In line with with the modern English usage,my datums are ECC protected, but my data is merely protected by ECC
All your datums are belong to us!
Wait till a certain Unix-like OS takes over Europe, Asia, and India, because it can run on very cheap equipment yet support the latest networking & languages, and doesn't require licensing or upgrade fees. 90% of the world will not be using Microsoft in 5 - 10 years.