Well, apt-get or emerge on the command line don't provide me with a "directory of applications or updates that aren't on my machine" and let me choose from a nice little menu.
It would sure be nice, but they don't work that way. You have to know the name of the package, whether it's installed (look it up in world, etc)..
Other graphical menu based stuff, RedHat has one, IIRC, or Linspire's Click N Run.. Yeah, if these suits are successful, Red Hat (by extenstion IBM, a juicy target, just ask Darl) and Mr Robertson will no doubt be the next to get out their checkbooks.
I remember reading of a patent granted for an "invisibility cloak" that would refract light around you so you couldnt be seen.
I highly doubt anyone on earth has a reasonable understanding of the "technology" which doesn't exist, and I'm damn sure noone could produce a working model.
One day in the future perhaps some brilliant technician will actually invent this device, only to be sued into oblivion by the patent holder.
The systems busted, which is sad, because the original intent of patents is, IMO, a good one.
Are you all so obsessed with a fucking 400 dollar walkman?
Sheesh, yeah it's a neat little device. Yeah, the scroll wheel is the MOST GENIOUS INVENTION OF ALL MANKIND. Absolutely the pinnacle of human engineering.
Give it a rest. There are literally millions of neat little consumer products out there, many you've never heard of. Most of which are more interesting than a music player.
Here's how the iPod was "invented": just like any other piece of Apple hardware since the companies inception, they took an existing product, made it "cuter" and jacked the price up 10-fold to sell to hipster morons who define themselves with their expensive toys.
Come on SCO - as part of my operating systems course in college we loaded ELF binaries (which we also had to create) and RAN them. They have got to be stretching a long way on that one - that is for sure. Not to mention many other OSs (such as the BSDs) can use ELF binaries..
What does that have to do with anything? So what, I can create and run an ELF binary too: "gcc hello.c -o hello"
The way I see it, this is what SCO is saying (linux zealots cover your ears and scream and ignore it):
- AT&T creates UNIX, and the precursor to ELF. - AT&T sells all this crap to Novell - Novell sells all this crap to SCO
- about the same time, the TISC puts out a free spec for ELF 1.2
Now, SCO is saying that the TISC didn't have the right to give away ELF 1.2, since it was simply an extension of previous works that they claim rights to.
Not so much simply that Linux is using ELF, but they further suggest that Linux' implementation is but a copy-paste job from their proprietary sources (as they claim with many other portions of the system).
Doesn't mean they're right, but it helps to understand what their argument is if you want to counter it.
Personally, I'd like to see SCO win. Linux is a horrible architecture for personal computing, with it's monolithic kernel and 20 minute bootup times.
Doubly so if I want RSS content on multiple machines behind NAT. One person gets slashdot headlines, another CNN or whatever. Simple port forwarding won't solve that problem.
"Push" is dead. "Push" was stillborn. The very climate w.r.t internet security is not disposed to "hey lets let remote servers push stuff into our network!"
Too many firewalls in todays world for "push" anything to work.
Too many upstream bandwidth restrictions, especially on home connections. Last thing people want is getting AUPped because they're mirroring slashdot headlines.
My solution? Multicast IPs. Multicast IPs solve every problem that's ever been encountered by mankind. Join Multicast, listen till you've heard all the headlines (which repeat ad nauseum), move on with life. Heck, keep listening if ya want. All we have to do is make it work.
Frankly, who said you have to let everyone in the world on your RSS feed. If your server cant handle X concurrent RSS requests, it's hardly the protocols "fault", IMO.
Thats no good, I want innovative new one-letter buzzword catalysts.
We've used X to death, mainly do to X-treme product placement, Apple's beaten the i horse so badly you cant even identify its remains as organic at this point. The dotcom boom killed the letter e, e-file that e-mail while I'm in the e-toilet, will you e-secratery?
GNU, spurred on by Gnome are destroying the letter G, KDE is going to town on K.
So thats I, E, X, G, K down. 21 letters left that we can still start words with. Let's try to knock the rest out, so we can start using those reallllllly cool letters Dr Seuss wrote about.
They have these devices called PDA's (personal digital assistant), many of which have wifi, most of which have longer lasting batteries than an iPod, and all of which are better suited to such tasks.
So does my smartphone with integrated PalmOS V, and it can do wi-fi and 3G wireless.
You could get PDA with wifi cheaper than an iPod.
Sorry, iPods make decent walkmans, but shitty PDAs. All the Mac zealotry in the world isn't going to convince me what an "awesome" PDA the iPod is.
When it's the same million idiots heading down to Best Buy because they threw the old one out when the battery died... Yeah, that fits the definition of "elitist" that I commonly use.
So just go to your school's bookstore and get the student editions of Office, Windows XP, Visual Studio, etc.
Home users can generally make do with Works to type up their letters home and keep track of their recipies.
The full Office suite is so pricey because it targets professional users. I remember when Word, Access, Excel, etc were seperate applications. But all the corporate demand was for the Office bundle.
No misleading headline, no headline anywhere said that they'd give you 30Mbps for 45 bucks. That's just the maximum they could give.
All the same, 50 bucks (unbundled) a month for 15Mbps blows the living HELL out of 80 bucks a month for 3Mbps from comcast. Well, 40 bucks for the 'net, another 40 bucks for about six dozen TV channels I dont watch - since you cant seperate the two.
My hope is this ushers in some REAL competition in the home broadband arena. Right now there really isn't any, DSL maxes out at about 1.5, so to be competitive cable only offers 2 or 3, even though they can easily to upwards of 10Mbps..
Hopefully Verizon brings this service to my town, and Comcast kisses my ass with a bump to 10Mbps max.
Generic or not, they are doing everything they can to ensure "Windows" is associated only with the Microsoft product.
Of course they are, would you expect any less? Right or wrong, their stockholders expect them to defend the brand. Just like Apple want to ensure "Macintosh" is associated only with their computers, or "OSX" is associated only with them. Just like Adobe wants to keep "PostScript" and "Portable Document Format". You gonna tell me that "portable document format" isn't a generic term?
I always chuckle a bit when MSFT does "the same thing any company would do" and slashbots get all in an uproar about it.
The whole lindows episode comes off as an attempt to extort some bucks from Uncle Bill. Mark my words, Linspire folds in a year, tops. Robertson will use the bucks to start his next quasi-legal company. Perhaps selling some manner of bootlegged beanie babies, or pirated gameboys. Who knows?
"emerge openoffice" took 26 hours to complete on a Celeron 2.0ghz. Granted, it failed for no good reason halfway through the first time (a mirror went down and the braindead ebuild just stopped), but even if it hadn't it would have been a good 10 hours at best.
Of course, this is not including the day it took for "emerge kde" to get me a desktop.
Sticking in the MS Office CD (Only need the first for the basics, Word, Access, Excel) and installing takes 10 minutes.
There's other stuff I've never been able to figure out with gentoo. How do I install just the ldap clients, without the openldap servers? Building by source you'd put a.configure flag like --without-slapd and --without-slurpd, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get gentoo to do this. I auth against ldap, and building slapd and slurpd is about another half hour of compile time I don't need.
I still don't have any sound as a non-root user, and can't find any good reason for it.
Gentoo is not the future, at least surely not for desktop OS's. Compiling everything from source sucks ass.
Sure, voice recognition would be no problem. Hell, last time I called 411 to look up a number I spoke with a machine, not a human, and it got me the number I wanted.
Really it'd just be 411 with visual feedback, and without the dollar-per-use fee.
And boiler rooms in China are going to respect our national Do Not Call list, right?
Wonder why the grandparent was labelled troll. Writing a script to have a recorded message play for every VoIP number would be as trivial as pumping out a million e-mails.
911 - Cell phones are useless in an emergency. If you lived on the east coast you would have seen this in action on 9/11. And what's the point of using VoIP to replace your POTS if you keep the POTS around in an emergency.
And then what, I have to train everyone who comes into my home "hey if you need to call 911 you have to use the yellow phone in the den. No, not that phone, it wont work. Has to be this phone." What if I forget to tell someone, and I'm choking to death or having a heart attack, and they're using the wrong phone.
Phone book - that's great that you dont want to be in there. What if you ran a business, or had any other reason to want to be in there? Not everyone wants to live "off the map".
Pizza - depends on the store and their management, how much they've been jerked around by cranks, etc..
Tivo - "roll your own" is only a decent solution to about 0.0000000001% of the population. Fortunately, 99.9999999 percent of the population really dont give a shit about Tivo or think it's as magical and wonderful as slashdot does. They think it's lame to pay a subscription for the same tv listings that scroll non-stop on channel 10 (or wherever the tv guide channel is).
And, of course, unlimited LD is only a benefit if you make a lot of LD calls. I dont, and I pay 20 bucks a month for my land-line. VoIP really has nothing to offer me but some minor headaches.
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Policies like that are up to the individual managers. If you were losing money because people were constantly being assholes and phoning in fake orders, etc, you might do the same thing.
Even places with such policies wont care if you've dealt with them before. The lil pizza shop down the road from me has such a policy, but I order from my cell all the time, and they pull my name on the computer, see I've bought hundreds of pizzas and never dicked them around, and have no problem with it.
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Well, apt-get or emerge on the command line don't provide me with a "directory of applications or updates that aren't on my machine" and let me choose from a nice little menu.
It would sure be nice, but they don't work that way. You have to know the name of the package, whether it's installed (look it up in world, etc)..
Other graphical menu based stuff, RedHat has one, IIRC, or Linspire's Click N Run.. Yeah, if these suits are successful, Red Hat (by extenstion IBM, a juicy target, just ask Darl) and Mr Robertson will no doubt be the next to get out their checkbooks.
Is this true?
I remember reading of a patent granted for an "invisibility cloak" that would refract light around you so you couldnt be seen.
I highly doubt anyone on earth has a reasonable understanding of the "technology" which doesn't exist, and I'm damn sure noone could produce a working model.
One day in the future perhaps some brilliant technician will actually invent this device, only to be sued into oblivion by the patent holder.
The systems busted, which is sad, because the original intent of patents is, IMO, a good one.
As is Linspores Click N run, IIRC.
Are you all so obsessed with a fucking 400 dollar walkman?
Sheesh, yeah it's a neat little device. Yeah, the scroll wheel is the MOST GENIOUS INVENTION OF ALL MANKIND. Absolutely the pinnacle of human engineering.
Give it a rest. There are literally millions of neat little consumer products out there, many you've never heard of. Most of which are more interesting than a music player.
Here's how the iPod was "invented": just like any other piece of Apple hardware since the companies inception, they took an existing product, made it "cuter" and jacked the price up 10-fold to sell to hipster morons who define themselves with their expensive toys.
Come on SCO - as part of my operating systems course in college we loaded ELF binaries (which we also had to create) and RAN them. They have got to be stretching a long way on that one - that is for sure. Not to mention many other OSs (such as the BSDs) can use ELF binaries..
What does that have to do with anything? So what, I can create and run an ELF binary too: "gcc hello.c -o hello"
The way I see it, this is what SCO is saying (linux zealots cover your ears and scream and ignore it):
- AT&T creates UNIX, and the precursor to ELF.
- AT&T sells all this crap to Novell
- Novell sells all this crap to SCO
- about the same time, the TISC puts out a free spec for ELF 1.2
Now, SCO is saying that the TISC didn't have the right to give away ELF 1.2, since it was simply an extension of previous works that they claim rights to.
Not so much simply that Linux is using ELF, but they further suggest that Linux' implementation is but a copy-paste job from their proprietary sources (as they claim with many other portions of the system).
Doesn't mean they're right, but it helps to understand what their argument is if you want to counter it.
Personally, I'd like to see SCO win. Linux is a horrible architecture for personal computing, with it's monolithic kernel and 20 minute bootup times.
You're both idiots, the lawsuit against IBM was launched not long after 2.6.0 came out.
Besides, even if you were right (you aren't), 2.6.0 is just the 2.5 tree with a new number, and that'd been around a long while.
Since the root of the problem is that the server can't handle the load in the first place, I don't see how this would help whatsoever.
Not particularly.
They'd be slapped down much harder for a second offense, they'd be stupid to try this.
It'd be like planning to hold up another liquor store, just as soon as your parole expires, as if that would make it OK.
Doubly so if I want RSS content on multiple machines behind NAT. One person gets slashdot headlines, another CNN or whatever. Simple port forwarding won't solve that problem.
"Push" is dead. "Push" was stillborn. The very climate w.r.t internet security is not disposed to "hey lets let remote servers push stuff into our network!"
Too many firewalls in todays world for "push" anything to work.
Too many upstream bandwidth restrictions, especially on home connections. Last thing people want is getting AUPped because they're mirroring slashdot headlines.
My solution? Multicast IPs. Multicast IPs solve every problem that's ever been encountered by mankind. Join Multicast, listen till you've heard all the headlines (which repeat ad nauseum), move on with life. Heck, keep listening if ya want. All we have to do is make it work.
Frankly, who said you have to let everyone in the world on your RSS feed. If your server cant handle X concurrent RSS requests, it's hardly the protocols "fault", IMO.
No doubt its cron jobs and the like.
Does any flavor of cron have a "randomizing" function? Like, for instance, tell it "every hour on the hour, give or take 30 minutes"?
So it might look at 1:11, 2:25, 2:51, etc...
.. *has* been found.
Turns out they were Golgafrinchian telephone sanitizers and marketing executives. Bunch of asshats, really. Hardly worth noting in the history books.
Heh heh MS is gay people hoo lik MS lissen to bertney spears he heh hee
Thats no good, I want innovative new one-letter buzzword catalysts.
We've used X to death, mainly do to X-treme product placement, Apple's beaten the i horse so badly you cant even identify its remains as organic at this point. The dotcom boom killed the letter e, e-file that e-mail while I'm in the e-toilet, will you e-secratery?
GNU, spurred on by Gnome are destroying the letter G, KDE is going to town on K.
So thats I, E, X, G, K down. 21 letters left that we can still start words with. Let's try to knock the rest out, so we can start using those reallllllly cool letters Dr Seuss wrote about.
They have these devices called PDA's (personal digital assistant), many of which have wifi, most of which have longer lasting batteries than an iPod, and all of which are better suited to such tasks.
So does my smartphone with integrated PalmOS V, and it can do wi-fi and 3G wireless.
You could get PDA with wifi cheaper than an iPod.
Sorry, iPods make decent walkmans, but shitty PDAs. All the Mac zealotry in the world isn't going to convince me what an "awesome" PDA the iPod is.
(Think different, think newton)
bah
When it's the same million idiots heading down to Best Buy because they threw the old one out when the battery died... Yeah, that fits the definition of "elitist" that I commonly use.
So just go to your school's bookstore and get the student editions of Office, Windows XP, Visual Studio, etc.
Home users can generally make do with Works to type up their letters home and keep track of their recipies.
The full Office suite is so pricey because it targets professional users. I remember when Word, Access, Excel, etc were seperate applications. But all the corporate demand was for the Office bundle.
Microsoft still is the low price solution. A linux liscense runs $699 from SCO, whereas XP Pro retails for 200.
No misleading headline, no headline anywhere said that they'd give you 30Mbps for 45 bucks. That's just the maximum they could give.
All the same, 50 bucks (unbundled) a month for 15Mbps blows the living HELL out of 80 bucks a month for 3Mbps from comcast. Well, 40 bucks for the 'net, another 40 bucks for about six dozen TV channels I dont watch - since you cant seperate the two.
My hope is this ushers in some REAL competition in the home broadband arena. Right now there really isn't any, DSL maxes out at about 1.5, so to be competitive cable only offers 2 or 3, even though they can easily to upwards of 10Mbps..
Hopefully Verizon brings this service to my town, and Comcast kisses my ass with a bump to 10Mbps max.
Generic or not, they are doing everything they can to ensure "Windows" is associated only with the Microsoft product.
Of course they are, would you expect any less? Right or wrong, their stockholders expect them to defend the brand. Just like Apple want to ensure "Macintosh" is associated only with their computers, or "OSX" is associated only with them. Just like Adobe wants to keep "PostScript" and "Portable Document Format". You gonna tell me that "portable document format" isn't a generic term?
I always chuckle a bit when MSFT does "the same thing any company would do" and slashbots get all in an uproar about it.
The whole lindows episode comes off as an attempt to extort some bucks from Uncle Bill. Mark my words, Linspire folds in a year, tops. Robertson will use the bucks to start his next quasi-legal company. Perhaps selling some manner of bootlegged beanie babies, or pirated gameboys. Who knows?
"emerge openoffice" took 26 hours to complete on a Celeron 2.0ghz. Granted, it failed for no good reason halfway through the first time (a mirror went down and the braindead ebuild just stopped), but even if it hadn't it would have been a good 10 hours at best.
.configure flag like --without-slapd and --without-slurpd, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get gentoo to do this. I auth against ldap, and building slapd and slurpd is about another half hour of compile time I don't need.
Of course, this is not including the day it took for "emerge kde" to get me a desktop.
Sticking in the MS Office CD (Only need the first for the basics, Word, Access, Excel) and installing takes 10 minutes.
There's other stuff I've never been able to figure out with gentoo. How do I install just the ldap clients, without the openldap servers? Building by source you'd put a
I still don't have any sound as a non-root user, and can't find any good reason for it.
Gentoo is not the future, at least surely not for desktop OS's. Compiling everything from source sucks ass.
Sure, voice recognition would be no problem. Hell, last time I called 411 to look up a number I spoke with a machine, not a human, and it got me the number I wanted.
Really it'd just be 411 with visual feedback, and without the dollar-per-use fee.
And boiler rooms in China are going to respect our national Do Not Call list, right?
Wonder why the grandparent was labelled troll. Writing a script to have a recorded message play for every VoIP number would be as trivial as pumping out a million e-mails.
911 - Cell phones are useless in an emergency. If you lived on the east coast you would have seen this in action on 9/11. And what's the point of using VoIP to replace your POTS if you keep the POTS around in an emergency.
And then what, I have to train everyone who comes into my home "hey if you need to call 911 you have to use the yellow phone in the den. No, not that phone, it wont work. Has to be this phone." What if I forget to tell someone, and I'm choking to death or having a heart attack, and they're using the wrong phone.
Phone book - that's great that you dont want to be in there. What if you ran a business, or had any other reason to want to be in there? Not everyone wants to live "off the map".
Pizza - depends on the store and their management, how much they've been jerked around by cranks, etc..
Tivo - "roll your own" is only a decent solution to about 0.0000000001% of the population. Fortunately, 99.9999999 percent of the population really dont give a shit about Tivo or think it's as magical and wonderful as slashdot does. They think it's lame to pay a subscription for the same tv listings that scroll non-stop on channel 10 (or wherever the tv guide channel is).
And, of course, unlimited LD is only a benefit if you make a lot of LD calls. I dont, and I pay 20 bucks a month for my land-line. VoIP really has nothing to offer me but some minor headaches.
Policies like that are up to the individual managers. If you were losing money because people were constantly being assholes and phoning in fake orders, etc, you might do the same thing.
Even places with such policies wont care if you've dealt with them before. The lil pizza shop down the road from me has such a policy, but I order from my cell all the time, and they pull my name on the computer, see I've bought hundreds of pizzas and never dicked them around, and have no problem with it.