They must have divided by 0 in kernel space to bomb the OS.
NT get chosen for stuff like this because it's easier for them to support special hardware by writing and maintaining drivers, not a particular monolithic kernel that slashbots would recommend.
Frankly, who cares. This would be a story about some really cool tech (an enormous, "invisible" boat) but instead its an OS flamewar.
Bah, slashdot isn't a "news for nerds" or a "geek" site anymore, it's just a soapbox for OSS philosophy.
in my opinion hollywood (and all other film producing places at that) should refrain from making movies out of scripts that mean a lot to many people and are highly unlikely to satisfy most of them!
In my opinion, you should refrain from watching such films and commenting about them.
I bet when Wizard Of Oz was in production, there was some oldtimey nerd was saying the same things, but it turned out to be a classic and timeless film.
So get over yourself. If you're "above" movies, don't go see them. It doesn't make you particularly cultured or elite, just a pompous windbag.
But the Yorktown went down due to expirimental software they were screwing with, ie; it was the userland stuff that THEY WROTE that crashed. They were testing some new code, and it didnt work. Read your own link, as biased as Wired is they can't hide that fact.
"The Smart Ship program is still in development, and officials said glitches are to be expected, but in this case the problem appeared to be more political than technical. Using Microsoft's Windows NT operating system in such a critical environment, some engineers said, was a bad move."
See, shit like that is stretching to blame someone else, common practice in government contracts. But MSFT didn't write the "Smart Ship" program. Who are the "some engineers"? I bet "some other engineers" said it probably didn't matter what OS was running.
The rest of the article tries to go into the awesomeness of unix, as though it would have made everything magically OK, but the problem is clearly defined here:
"They rushed this stuff on the ship, there was no real prototype, and then they tried to make things work as they went along"
Thats a simple recipe for disaster no matter what OS you choose.
Of course, this is slashdot so its got to be MSFT's fault.
Government contracts get special versions of windows, portions of code, etc. Noone says this is "NT 4" and even if it's based on NT4, it's not the NT4 that comes in a retail box.
After several launches and recoveries, I thought it would be a good idea to launch my hamster, Insomnia. When I found him, he looked like an overcooked waffle.
I dont think I realized until just then the implications of removing the parachute to create the hamsters "quarters".
C'mon in a couple months you apple goons will be claiming that Apple invented the patent, and MSFT et al are copying their 'innovation'.
Apple have filed (and lost) "look-and-feel" suits in the past. Other similar suits have failed in court (Capcom vs Data East over Fighters History Dynamite being a clone of Street Figher II comes to mind). Will patents change the game?
Could Carmack patent the "interface" of a FPS game? I mean, he invented them just about as much as Apple invented the Windowed OS.
Is that screenshot supposed to prove something, other than the article's complaints?
Why do you need to have a 'usr' and 'home' folder open on screen, when what you want is no doubt in 'wasabi'?
Why are there no easy/obvious parent or home folder icons? Sorry, that looks worse than Win3.1's Program Manager which was the most annoying gui construct I can think of. And that's my opinion, and nothing you say will change that.
To me that's as annoying as pop-under web ads. I said popup before but pop-under is probably more apt. Still annoying.
I'm glad you noticed that it wasnt much of a review.
That's because it's NOT A FUCKING REVIEW
Look:
Living Down to a Low Standard Opinion by Nicholas Petreley
So while the zealots line up to flame him for his "unprofessional review", keep in mind it's an OPINION, and he can have whatever opinion he wants.
Let's talk about slashdots "unprofessional article" that criticizes this guy for being an "unprofessional reviewer" for merely voicing an opinion, which happens to be that $YOUR_PET_PROJECT sucks.
The standard tree view is available by right clicking on a folder and choosing "Browse Folders", via the menu using "Browse Filesystem", or via the panel icon that looks like a file cabinet (it's there by default). So, three seperate methods to access the old view, one of which is even on the panel by default, yet Nicholas, with his years of Linux experience, can't seem to find it, naturally GNOME has robbed him of this ability.
I'm not using gnome now, but this sounds like it turns it off for the current window, but there's no easy option to turn it off completely.
And his later point about gconf vs windows registry is irrelevant. He admits the interface is similar. They both accomplish similar things. So hey, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck its a friggin duck. Who cares if one uses an LDAP backend or a flat text file or a dunebuggy full of cockroach asses.
Gnome developers need to relax. It's just one guys opinion and he's entitled to it. If someone says your product stinks on ice, look into it and be man enough to admit if they're right.
How dare he criticize something as trivial as "how you use the fucking thing".
Most people find that clicking-opens-a-new-window behaviour annoying. It makes browsing around your directory as annoying as closing popup ads - its the same experience, pretty much. Your screen clogs with shit you dont wanna see.
He makes the point that no modern desktop OS does that, and for a reason.
Why is everyone so defensive? It's a perfectly valid criticism. It makes the desktop frustrating to the point of unusable for many folks.
Not all criticism is flamebait, as in offered solely to incide the reciever. Not all flamebait is bad, either. Sometimes things need to be said.
I've toyed on and off with linux' window managers for years, I remember when fvwm was brand new. But they all have, and still do, look and behave like crap.
I mean, it sucks. Gnome sucks, KDE looks a little better but still sucks. They all suck.
And an army of zealots lined up to kiss ass wont make them better.
It's not ingratitude to say that either. Thanks for the free desktop environments, folks. I appreciate the choice, really. It's just that right now they suck. They suck enough I'd rather pay 200 bananas to use Windows XP, which is far from desktop perfection.
And Black and Decker costs jobs because they sell power saws and nailers that allow a single carpenter to frame out a new structure, when once upon a time it would have taken dozens to complete it in the same timeframe.
We should pass a law barring people from creating better tools for getting things done. Everything should be like the way Linux and the Amish do it - as backbreaking and labor intensive as possible, because that means more work!
The joke of it is, you were modded insightful on "we hates msft" principles, while I'll be modded flamebait/troll/offtopic because it may appear I'm "defending" them.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes this completely unrelated event will no doubt weigh heavily on them in court.
How could be a linux ripoff if they own linux?
They must have divided by 0 in kernel space to bomb the OS.
NT get chosen for stuff like this because it's easier for them to support special hardware by writing and maintaining drivers, not a particular monolithic kernel that slashbots would recommend.
Frankly, who cares. This would be a story about some really cool tech (an enormous, "invisible" boat) but instead its an OS flamewar.
Bah, slashdot isn't a "news for nerds" or a "geek" site anymore, it's just a soapbox for OSS philosophy.
in my opinion hollywood (and all other film producing places at that) should refrain from making movies out of scripts that mean a lot to many people and are highly unlikely to satisfy most of them!
In my opinion, you should refrain from watching such films and commenting about them.
I bet when Wizard Of Oz was in production, there was some oldtimey nerd was saying the same things, but it turned out to be a classic and timeless film.
So get over yourself. If you're "above" movies, don't go see them. It doesn't make you particularly cultured or elite, just a pompous windbag.
But the Yorktown went down due to expirimental software they were screwing with, ie; it was the userland stuff that THEY WROTE that crashed. They were testing some new code, and it didnt work. Read your own link, as biased as Wired is they can't hide that fact.
"The Smart Ship program is still in development, and officials said glitches are to be expected, but in this case the problem appeared to be more political than technical. Using Microsoft's Windows NT operating system in such a critical environment, some engineers said, was a bad move."
See, shit like that is stretching to blame someone else, common practice in government contracts. But MSFT didn't write the "Smart Ship" program. Who are the "some engineers"? I bet "some other engineers" said it probably didn't matter what OS was running.
The rest of the article tries to go into the awesomeness of unix, as though it would have made everything magically OK, but the problem is clearly defined here:
"They rushed this stuff on the ship, there was no real prototype, and then they tried to make things work as they went along"
Thats a simple recipe for disaster no matter what OS you choose.
Of course, this is slashdot so its got to be MSFT's fault.
Government contracts get special versions of windows, portions of code, etc. Noone says this is "NT 4" and even if it's based on NT4, it's not the NT4 that comes in a retail box.
No, I don't own a Mac, but I've worked with OSX a little, and more apps than should pop up that little sudo-dialog thing.
So if the trojan popped up the "you must enter your administrator password to continue" box, how many would without asking questions?
I mean the guy thought he was getting a beta release of word2k4 off of limewire?
How big was the package he downloaded? Hundred megs or so, like word would be, or some 50k zip?
UNIX doesnt magically protect you from stupidity, or from making mistakes.
I thought the "Slashdot thing" was whining.
After several launches and recoveries, I thought it would be a good idea to launch my hamster, Insomnia. When I found him, he looked like an overcooked waffle.
I dont think I realized until just then the implications of removing the parachute to create the hamsters "quarters".
I thought it said "Red Rocket To Blow its Ham into Your Face!"
yuk yuk yuk, its funny cuz we cant read!
That was ralph wiggum, dipshit.
So noone should have this convenience because of your lack of self control?
slashcode could be modified to show the originating domain name, ie; just trim off the freecache.org part.
It'll take YEARS to implement, but possible.
Volume!
How long until freecache is the way to publish warez on the web? Geocities storage + freecache's bandwidth = teh free shit 4 u.
That was copyright law.
This is an end run around copyright law.
Just as the DMCA is an extension to copyright to end run around patent law.
And there's no such thing as a "defensive patent", no matter how many times slashbots use the word.
Right?
They have to be, dont they.
I mean, this is Apple.
C'mon in a couple months you apple goons will be claiming that Apple invented the patent, and MSFT et al are copying their 'innovation'.
Apple have filed (and lost) "look-and-feel" suits in the past. Other similar suits have failed in court (Capcom vs Data East over Fighters History Dynamite being a clone of Street Figher II comes to mind). Will patents change the game?
Could Carmack patent the "interface" of a FPS game? I mean, he invented them just about as much as Apple invented the Windowed OS.
Is that screenshot supposed to prove something, other than the article's complaints?
Why do you need to have a 'usr' and 'home' folder open on screen, when what you want is no doubt in 'wasabi'?
Why are there no easy/obvious parent or home folder icons? Sorry, that looks worse than Win3.1's Program Manager which was the most annoying gui construct I can think of. And that's my opinion, and nothing you say will change that.
To me that's as annoying as pop-under web ads. I said popup before but pop-under is probably more apt. Still annoying.
It's an OPINION PIECE. Read the fucking articles bi-line.
The guys entitled to his opinion. You are all entitled to your own.
Get over your fucking selves.
I'm glad you noticed that it wasnt much of a review.
That's because it's NOT A FUCKING REVIEW
Look:
Living Down to a Low Standard
Opinion by Nicholas Petreley
So while the zealots line up to flame him for his "unprofessional review", keep in mind it's an OPINION, and he can have whatever opinion he wants.
Let's talk about slashdots "unprofessional article" that criticizes this guy for being an "unprofessional reviewer" for merely voicing an opinion, which happens to be that $YOUR_PET_PROJECT sucks.
The standard tree view is available by right clicking on a folder and choosing "Browse Folders", via the menu using "Browse Filesystem", or via the panel icon that looks like a file cabinet (it's there by default). So, three seperate methods to access the old view, one of which is even on the panel by default, yet Nicholas, with his years of Linux experience, can't seem to find it, naturally GNOME has robbed him of this ability.
I'm not using gnome now, but this sounds like it turns it off for the current window, but there's no easy option to turn it off completely.
And his later point about gconf vs windows registry is irrelevant. He admits the interface is similar. They both accomplish similar things. So hey, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck its a friggin duck. Who cares if one uses an LDAP backend or a flat text file or a dunebuggy full of cockroach asses.
Gnome developers need to relax. It's just one guys opinion and he's entitled to it. If someone says your product stinks on ice, look into it and be man enough to admit if they're right.
How dare he criticize something as trivial as "how you use the fucking thing".
Most people find that clicking-opens-a-new-window behaviour annoying. It makes browsing around your directory as annoying as closing popup ads - its the same experience, pretty much. Your screen clogs with shit you dont wanna see.
He makes the point that no modern desktop OS does that, and for a reason.
Why is everyone so defensive? It's a perfectly valid criticism. It makes the desktop frustrating to the point of unusable for many folks.
I am not going to swear here, but I am MAJORLY pissed at gnome
Where I come from, most people would consider "pissed" a swear in the context in which you used it.
Me, I could give a fuckin shit either way.
Not all criticism is flamebait, as in offered solely to incide the reciever. Not all flamebait is bad, either. Sometimes things need to be said.
I've toyed on and off with linux' window managers for years, I remember when fvwm was brand new. But they all have, and still do, look and behave like crap.
I mean, it sucks. Gnome sucks, KDE looks a little better but still sucks. They all suck.
And an army of zealots lined up to kiss ass wont make them better.
It's not ingratitude to say that either. Thanks for the free desktop environments, folks. I appreciate the choice, really. It's just that right now they suck. They suck enough I'd rather pay 200 bananas to use Windows XP, which is far from desktop perfection.
What idiocy.
And Black and Decker costs jobs because they sell power saws and nailers that allow a single carpenter to frame out a new structure, when once upon a time it would have taken dozens to complete it in the same timeframe.
We should pass a law barring people from creating better tools for getting things done. Everything should be like the way Linux and the Amish do it - as backbreaking and labor intensive as possible, because that means more work!
The joke of it is, you were modded insightful on "we hates msft" principles, while I'll be modded flamebait/troll/offtopic because it may appear I'm "defending" them.