Mogwai's last album, "Happy Songs for Happy People" came out with a demo-type version of Cubase and wav's of all the separate tracks to the album's first song. Basically they let you remix as you wanted; I thought it was a neat idea.
Thanks for replying. I guess I just have this feeling that if non-MS OS's become more mainstream, maybe people will use them with about the same concern for security they take on their windows boxes; and not only that, but folks will start writing easier, more convenient programs (like your example) for the sake of popularity or demand, and before you know it we'll have the same type of security hell on Linux as in Windows.
OK, I have a quick question. These worms and virii are hitting a ton of Microsoft vulnerabilities, and that's why they *exist*, but to me it seems like they only succeed because office workers, mom (my mom's comp was hit by Blaster), guy down the street, etc. *don't harden their computers*, or because they can't seem to stop clicking on attachments.
So if this gets worse and worse, and hypothetically more people start running linux or mac or whatever as their desktop OS (which I think could happen in dribs and drabs now -- a shitload of folks I know HATE microsoft right now), what's to stop them from ignoring system security all over again? You have the whole Lindows run-as-root thing still, for example. I know there aren't nearly as many worms and shit written to exploit non-MS OS's, but that doesn't mean folks won't start, and I'd just like to know what would/could happen, and what exploits would then be available, if they do.
I'm tired, and cranky, and I love Linux. But I just don't know if I'd trust my mom to run a secure Mandrake box if she can't even do Windows fucking Update.
I don't know about where you live, but I know there's a lot of small non-profit/charity orgs in my neighbourhood (Eastern Canada) that already have some sort of net access. But what they *do* need is help in getting the best out of their often old hardware, or just getting it to work at all.
I'm not talking classrooms (afaik most classrooms around here have access to *paid* staff of some sort, no?) but more like your local literacy council, small library, soup kitchen, women's shelter, yadda yadda...
They usually have the hardware. What they need is the (open) software, and the training. And then you've just made a difference in their operation, and their life.
Most of my friends are in sub-Constellation-level bands, and I can guarantee dollars to donuts that their songs aren't being traded widely, if at all, on Kazaa or the like. At that level, any word of mouth is good; in other words, if someone has an opportunity to hear one of their songs, that's one more chance for a sale.
That said, most of the band members (and the label owners themselves) are pretty set against music piracy and filesharing; they *do* identify with other artist/musicians, and they like to see them repaid for their hard work. I don't think they'd get too broken up about Britney's loss of sales, but if someone fucks with Constellation (my favorite label by far, by the way, and for that you're on my friends list) they would definitely *not* be impressed.
Maybe that's splitting hairs a little too fine; I think though it basically comes down to what's good for them in the position they're in, but more importantly what it does for the growth of the scene.
For what it's worth, I *have* downloaded some Do Make Say Think from Soulseek (there's a lot out there)... but it's only been live shows, since I have all their albums anyway (I actually bought "... the Landlord is Dead" twice due to major crackage). I also go to any Constellation shows whenever they're in my neck of the woods, and encourage as many folks as I can to go see them... and buy CD's direct. Loving, inviting, *exciting* music scene Good; trading Good music scene music like a shill BAD.
I've got a couple of friends running a couple of (very) small labels, and quite a few more in bands... and their basic feeling about the whole thing is that sooner or later people might eventually clue in, realise they're risking jail time to listen to music that's worse than white noise on the cheap...
Basically, they think the shittier it is to listen to shitty music, all the better for them. They don't think that they'll be getting any of the money or the fame, but it'll bring a lot of actual spirit and dynamism back to the currently-small indie crowd.
Maybe more than 1% of the N. Am. population will start to care about music again.
take a look at this post. It shows that they do know which particular songs these folks are downloading. Gives a bunch of other details too that seem to clear a couple of your points up.
But they also give props to the *nix users in their FAQ:
What are the recommended specs for enjoying Live Phish Downloads?
Please note: we do not recommend downloading FLAC files on a dial-up modem. If you are on a slow connection, please purchase MP3 files instead of FLAC.
Windows
Windows 98SE, 2000, ME, XP, or later
128 MB RAM
10 GB Hard Drive (a larger hard drive is optimal)
Pentium III 750MHz or faster (or equivalent)
Cable Modem or DSL
Internet Explorer 5.5 or later
Mac OS
Mac OS X or later
128 MB RAM
10GB Hard Drive (a larger hard drive is optimal)
Cable Modem or DSL
Internet Explorer 5.1 or later
Well, they might be destroying our privacy, but they can't do anything about it. The great thing about living up here in Canada, as you all know, is the eight month winters. My *mailman* doesn't even get to my house this time of year. I'd like to see the police try to follow up a warrant anywhere in town when the mail can't even get delivered...
Who can companies trust if they're afraid that this kind of thing can happen? How can they prevent it?"
Go and *kill* your sysadmin right now. And while the lab computers slow down and fry in front of your eyes, eaten up by crappy pop mp3's and virii, just go ahead and bliss out to your own ignorance and the joy that no one will tell you your a horrible, horrible person, again.
At least that's what I'm going to do as soon as I figure out what the hell is wrong with my computer.
A spammer's lawyer: is there a lower form of life?
Maybe "lamer" -- part lawyer, part spammer?
Oh wait -- that word means something else.
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Actually, Mr.-I'm-going-to-post-ignorantly-and-repetitively, sustainable growth as a term and a practice is not meaningless. Have you ever been on an actual tree farm -- you know, the farms that grow almost all the material needed to supply us with stuff like looseleaf and toilet paper? I've been on them. My neck of the woods (literally) is full of them. It's called sustainable growth because the foresters know how to balance what they cut with what they grow. There's no circular definition. It's a practice that has actually been used for decades. But I know that doesn't matter -- today is your day to post as often as you can, to piss me the fuck off.
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No prob, man. You'd better watch out though -- that site is addictive, and dude has a ton up. I've lost whole days of my life ...
http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/052503/10-types -of-people.gif ... you know, as citation.
Yes. Yes, you can.
My god, it's like some sort of beautiful poetry ...
*sniff*
Well, there goes my goddamned lunch. Shoulda read the subtitle first.
putty link.
Werd.
Mogwai's last album, "Happy Songs for Happy People" came out with a demo-type version of Cubase and wav's of all the separate tracks to the album's first song. Basically they let you remix as you wanted; I thought it was a neat idea.
Thanks for replying. I guess I just have this feeling that if non-MS OS's become more mainstream, maybe people will use them with about the same concern for security they take on their windows boxes; and not only that, but folks will start writing easier, more convenient programs (like your example) for the sake of popularity or demand, and before you know it we'll have the same type of security hell on Linux as in Windows.
Ehhhhh. Scary/frustrating.
OK, I have a quick question. These worms and virii are hitting a ton of Microsoft vulnerabilities, and that's why they *exist*, but to me it seems like they only succeed because office workers, mom (my mom's comp was hit by Blaster), guy down the street, etc. *don't harden their computers*, or because they can't seem to stop clicking on attachments.
So if this gets worse and worse, and hypothetically more people start running linux or mac or whatever as their desktop OS (which I think could happen in dribs and drabs now -- a shitload of folks I know HATE microsoft right now), what's to stop them from ignoring system security all over again? You have the whole Lindows run-as-root thing still, for example. I know there aren't nearly as many worms and shit written to exploit non-MS OS's, but that doesn't mean folks won't start, and I'd just like to know what would/could happen, and what exploits would then be available, if they do.
I'm tired, and cranky, and I love Linux. But I just don't know if I'd trust my mom to run a secure Mandrake box if she can't even do Windows fucking Update.
I don't know about where you live, but I know there's a lot of small non-profit/charity orgs in my neighbourhood (Eastern Canada) that already have some sort of net access. But what they *do* need is help in getting the best out of their often old hardware, or just getting it to work at all.
I'm not talking classrooms (afaik most classrooms around here have access to *paid* staff of some sort, no?) but more like your local literacy council, small library, soup kitchen, women's shelter, yadda yadda ...
They usually have the hardware. What they need is the (open) software, and the training. And then you've just made a difference in their operation, and their life.
Most of my friends are in sub-Constellation-level bands, and I can guarantee dollars to donuts that their songs aren't being traded widely, if at all, on Kazaa or the like. At that level, any word of mouth is good; in other words, if someone has an opportunity to hear one of their songs, that's one more chance for a sale.
That said, most of the band members (and the label owners themselves) are pretty set against music piracy and filesharing; they *do* identify with other artist/musicians, and they like to see them repaid for their hard work. I don't think they'd get too broken up about Britney's loss of sales, but if someone fucks with Constellation (my favorite label by far, by the way, and for that you're on my friends list) they would definitely *not* be impressed.
Maybe that's splitting hairs a little too fine; I think though it basically comes down to what's good for them in the position they're in, but more importantly what it does for the growth of the scene.
For what it's worth, I *have* downloaded some Do Make Say Think from Soulseek (there's a lot out there) ... but it's only been live shows, since I have all their albums anyway (I actually bought "... the Landlord is Dead" twice due to major crackage). I also go to any Constellation shows whenever they're in my neck of the woods, and encourage as many folks as I can to go see them ... and buy CD's direct. Loving, inviting, *exciting* music scene Good; trading Good music scene music like a shill BAD.
What I think, anyway.
Amen, brother.
I've got a couple of friends running a couple of (very) small labels, and quite a few more in bands ... and their basic feeling about the whole thing is that sooner or later people might eventually clue in, realise they're risking jail time to listen to music that's worse than white noise on the cheap ...
Basically, they think the shittier it is to listen to shitty music, all the better for them. They don't think that they'll be getting any of the money or the fame, but it'll bring a lot of actual spirit and dynamism back to the currently-small indie crowd.
Maybe more than 1% of the N. Am. population will start to care about music again.
"canadiasn" ... close to "orgasn" .... neither, in the end, are really what we want it to be.
Move here to Canada! We're disinterested and apathetic! And we generally think that's a plus!
take a look at this post. It shows that they do know which particular songs these folks are downloading. Gives a bunch of other details too that seem to clear a couple of your points up.
Question:
What's their geographic jurisdiction? US? North America? The Western World? The world?
Not to be too non-US-centric, but I'd just like to know if non-Americans should be purging mp3's or running to the foothills yet.
But they also give props to the *nix users in their FAQ:
And "slash" is South African for pissing... who'd-a-thunk-it.
Well, they might be destroying our privacy, but they can't do anything about it. The great thing about living up here in Canada, as you all know, is the eight month winters. My *mailman* doesn't even get to my house this time of year. I'd like to see the police try to follow up a warrant anywhere in town when the mail can't even get delivered ...
Who can companies trust if they're afraid that this kind of thing can happen? How can they prevent it?"
Go and *kill* your sysadmin right now. And while the lab computers slow down and fry in front of your eyes, eaten up by crappy pop mp3's and virii, just go ahead and bliss out to your own ignorance and the joy that no one will tell you your a horrible, horrible person, again.
At least that's what I'm going to do as soon as I figure out what the hell is wrong with my computer.
Or wordperfect ... or openoffice ... or pagemaker ... or ... or ... or ...
A spammer's lawyer: is there a lower form of life?
Maybe "lamer" -- part lawyer, part spammer?
Oh wait -- that word means something else.
Actually, Mr.-I'm-going-to-post-ignorantly-and-repetitively, sustainable growth as a term and a practice is not meaningless. Have you ever been on an actual tree farm -- you know, the farms that grow almost all the material needed to supply us with stuff like looseleaf and toilet paper? I've been on them. My neck of the woods (literally) is full of them. It's called sustainable growth because the foresters know how to balance what they cut with what they grow. There's no circular definition. It's a practice that has actually been used for decades. But I know that doesn't matter -- today is your day to post as often as you can, to piss me the fuck off.
Stupid mungy troll.
Ruined your day? Think about the sweet potato. Not so sweet any more ...