given he's apparently paid all the Solaris trolls to come out of the woodwork and diss Linus for a one-paragraph comment.
Sun is history. Period. Forget about them.
If they had been smart five years ago, they (and HP and IBM) would have ditched their proprietary Unix platforms and handed over the enterprise features to Linux (like SGI did with their file system) and concentrate on adding value with system management tools. They would have had a prayer of competing with Microsoft then.
Now, they're going to end up doing that anyway - after they've lost to Microsoft and Linux.
I have no sympathy for Solaris users. You backed the wrong horse. Tough. Deal with it.
In ten years, the only people running any other Unix OS except Linux will be the same sort of people who still run IBM System/3 minicomputers.
In other words, morons.
Linus is right. He doesn't have to care about Solaris - he's going to get all of Solaris's useful features in Linux sooner or later anyway - one way or the other.
Like the saying goes, "If you aren't part of the steamroller, you're part of the road." Or as Linus quipped about Gates' book, "Anybody standing in the road looks like roadkill to me."
It'll never fix the need to spend hours playing the damn thing!
Being a former wannabe assassin, I just found the whole thing too addicting.
So I ended up doing fun stuff like running up to the front of the Triad restaurant, opening the door, shooting a couple of the guards, then backing out and closing the door. Some of the guards would eventually come out, and I'd mow them down. After a while - no more guards. But there was still too many on the other levels for this to work.
It was fun, though, just to shoot up the restaurant - like that guy in the McDonald's years ago. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Once I got to Colombia, I used an M-60 machine gun to pick off all the guards around those ruins, but it took a while to figure out (it should have been obvious) that the only way past the panther was to give him a meal of one of the dead guards!
Then, every time I tried to use the mini-gun in the drug lord's compound, I'd get killed. Just having the thing in your hands gets you killed.
So I dropped that idea, and just entered the house and killed the guards one at a time - which takes forever, although I eventually got it down to a few minutes. But that whole "Tony Montana" scene in the drug lord's office (funny as it was) usually ended up in my getting shot from behind by guards from outside the front door. So I started shooting them, too. That worked.
But I could never figure out how to get into the drug lab, since I couldn't take the drug lord's clothes and the guards at the drug lab wouldn't let anybody else dressed as a guard in, and I couldn't shoot my way in.
After you've run through a scenario repeatedly about 200 times trying to get it to work, it gets boring and frustrating.
Maybe some day I'll try Hit Man 2 or 3. But I'm not trying 1 again until somebody tells me how to blow up the drug lab.
Back around 1978, when the first few microcomputer stores were opening, I played that simple game where you have little planes flying overhead and a little cannon at the bottom of the screen to shoot them down (to give you an idea, the cannon was "graphically constructed" out of the vertical pipe symbol)on a Processor Tech micro (IIRC, it might have even been an Altair, I can't remember).
I wasted two hours on that stupid crap trying to "beat my high score", and swore never to do it again!
Back around 1986, I had an Atari 520ST which came with a similar game where you shoot down asteroids coming at you. Wasted more time with that one.
Then I actually bought the Neuromancer game (based on the Gibson book) for the Atari - and wasted more time on that.
I'd LIKE to be able to play games, but I simply can't afford to waste that kind of time. (Not that I don't waste time on other things, of course...but computer games would be insanely time wasting, even compared to listening to music or watching music videos of the Corrs...)
After twenty years of swearing never to play computer games because of the wasted time and frustration (when you lose, of course), I broke down and bought Hitman on sale for $10 at CompUSA.
And proceeded to waste hours and days of time, just like I knew I would.
And I never could figure out how to both kill the drug lord in Colombia AND blow up the drug lab.
So I trashed the game and went back to my old ways.
Meanwhile, I've seen Blade:Trinity twice and probably would see it a third time - except I'm broke for the next couple weeks.
And that theory has been seriously proffered by a lot of people.
Given that the Democrats had a ton of lawyers ready to watch and contest any 2000-like fraud in this election, Kerry rolled over like a floating log.
It's like all these theories that the CIA and the Bush Administration are fighting each other. Well, some lower-level members and former members of the CIA might not agree with how Bush is doing things, but anybody who thinks the higher-ups and the covert people who are really running things behind the scenes are in some sort of disagreement with Bush just doesn't understand reality. Bush Senior ran the CIA for years and has plenty of hooks into that organization and certainly knows about all the drug-running and other nastiness that went on during his tenure there. And the CIA supports the kind of world-view the Bushies promote because it means more job security and more power for the CIA. If anybody at the CIA has a complaint, it's that they might not be the ones calling ALL the shots - that's about it.
I just had Wells Fargo pop up a notice every time I go their site telling me that my browser (Opera) will not be supported after December 31 (which actually makes no sense because it isn't "supported" now).
I sent them an email pointing out that IE is the least secure browser on the market and that of ten million FireFox downloads, most of whom are probably early adopters in California, there must be thousands of Wells Fargo customers.
Their customer service people replied that since the browser market is fast changing, they can't keep up with "certifying" every browser for security and compatibility with their site (which is bullshit, of course.) They did say, however, that they would turn my email over to Product Management. One would hope at some point that somebody with some technical smarts on their team will point out to them that they should start supporting more secure browsers, as it's only a matter of time before some customer's security gets breached via IE which will cause a problem for the company.
Let me point out something about your last comment.
I go to porn sites often, too. Guess what? They DON'T install spyware! Why should they? You (and I) are a captive audience! They KNOW what we want to see - they don't need to do market research and most "normal" companies don't advertise on porn sites anyway for PR reasons. So porn sites put on LESS spyware than other sites.
I had one client who had a ton of spyware. Where did he get it? Sports sites! They have advertisers and those advertisers want to know where you've been on the Web and what you click on.
It's the commercial sites of smaller, less reputable companies that use spyware for the most part, not porn sites.
" flaws in the Diebold systems that could compromise election results."
Not to mention the optical scanners, and the Florida programmer who wrote a vote rigging program, and the company bozos in Ohio who took the friggin' machines apart before a recount and told the voter people to put the totals on the wall so no one would see them and use those totals to make sure the hand recount came out equal to the machine total...
Even stupid ass Kerry is starting to realize something went wrong here...
"identify the executables through task manager and the "run" keys in the registry"
Heh, heh, you've never done this, have you?
Where do think he put in the five hours? He's a LINUX admin - he had to spend an hour or more figuring out which of the weirdly named processes in the process manager were legit.
Then he had to surf the Net to anti-spyware sites for an hour to identify all the spyware and determine WHICH registry keys and executables and DLLs had been scattered all over the system.
Then he had to go and delete each one - probably having to reboot at least two or three times.
And of course he missed one.
Oh, yeah, you can easily spend five hours on just a few dozen pieces of spyware that Ad-Aware and Spybot missed.
Almost nobody gets only ONE piece of spyware - that would be easy. It's dealing with 20, 50, 100 or more that takes time.
Nope. I gave up because I couldn't even figure out the error messages and whether or not they were actually related to the failure to come up with a prompt.
This thing has a long way to go.
OTOH, one of my City College instructors uses it okay, so I guess it works for some people.
As a coincedence, I did the same nine years this hacker got. (Actually eight years, three months - I got some good time before the Feds changed the policy on that.)
"perhaps too much unless they can get parole in at most 2~3"
This guy is going to Federal prison. There IS NO parole from Federal prison. You get what is called "supervised release" at the end of your sentence - which is effectively similar to parole, but is not the same thing.
Oh, yeah, you can get time off for "good behavior". But the Feds changed that a few years ago. Before, you used to get 53 days a year knocked off your sentence if you didn't get any incident reports. Once you got 53 days for a given year, you had it - they couldn't take it back if you got incident reports in the future.
Now you don't actually get your time off "vested" until the day you're actually due to be released based on whatever time you COULD get vested. This allows the Feds to hit you with more incident reports, take your good time, and keep you longer.
And since it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to do Federal time without incident reports of some kind, this means the Feds get to keep most people longer.
This allows them to increase the prison population, demand more prisons and more money for the Bureau Of Prisons, and increase both their job security and their career paths.
And THAT'S why it was done.
As for where this guy will be going, it depends on his "points", which in turn depends on the crime, the number of criminal charges they were indicted on, any violence, presence of firearms, the amount of any money involved, etc. If they had access to hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of credit cards, they could get enough points to end up in a Federal Penitentiary (the second highest level in the Federal system - the first being a "Super-Max", the third being a Federal Correctional Institution, and the lowest being a Federal Camp.) He could easily end up in Leavenworth. After X years of his sentence with no incident reports, his points could be reduced enough to get down to an FCI, and eventually a Camp if he's lucky.
How he fares at a place like Leavenworth will depend on his smarts in dealing with people who are (presumably) much dumber (but more violent) than he is, as well as factors such as his physical presence, his attitude, his age, etc. I did four years at Leavenworth (after four years in other facilities), including two in "The Hole", and was never physically assaulted (by inmates, anyway - I was pushed around once by a correctional officer.)
It managed to put an "X" in the taskbar and a shortcut on the desktop, but that was the apparent extent of its success. No prompt window ever came up - only assorted error messages in the cmd.exe window.
Anyone wonder why it takes 40 million lines of code to do what 5.7 million do?
That's the real question.
And no, that doesn't include "all of Microsoft's applications."
What "included applications" were you referring to? Notepad? Gimme a break...
Linux is written by programmers who obviously love programming, since they work on it in their spare time outside their normal programming jobs.
Windows is written by 24-year-old recent college CS graduates who have no fucking clue how to do anything - managed by "product managers" who have even less clue - managed by corporate execs who are KNOWN ASSHOLES!
What part of this picture isn't FUCKING OBVIOUS?!
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This is the same guy whose soup regularly sells at heavy discount in Cala Foods markets because nobody buys it - because it sucks?
Guess he needs self-heating coffee...
I bought a couple cans of his soup and was seriously unimpressed. Warm clear water had more ingredients in it.
What a freaking laugh this rag is!
First they pump up the volume about Iraqi WMDs, courtesy of the neocon groupie Judith Miller, now this.
In fact, they've been running stories IIRC about how "bad" the Internet is (child porn, identify theft, credit card fraud, ad nauseum) for years.
It's called "morons in the paper industry scared of technology" and "wannabe dictators".
Fuck the New York Times - and the rest of the so-called "journalism" crowd.
There's a saying, "Those than can, do - those that can't, teach."
Well, "those that can't do or teach - write about it." Sums up "journalism" perfectly.
given he's apparently paid all the Solaris trolls to come out of the woodwork and diss Linus for a one-paragraph comment.
Sun is history. Period. Forget about them.
If they had been smart five years ago, they (and HP and IBM) would have ditched their proprietary Unix platforms and handed over the enterprise features to Linux (like SGI did with their file system) and concentrate on adding value with system management tools. They would have had a prayer of competing with Microsoft then.
Now, they're going to end up doing that anyway - after they've lost to Microsoft and Linux.
I have no sympathy for Solaris users. You backed the wrong horse. Tough. Deal with it.
In ten years, the only people running any other Unix OS except Linux will be the same sort of people who still run IBM System/3 minicomputers.
In other words, morons.
Linus is right. He doesn't have to care about Solaris - he's going to get all of Solaris's useful features in Linux sooner or later anyway - one way or the other.
Like the saying goes, "If you aren't part of the steamroller, you're part of the road." Or as Linus quipped about Gates' book, "Anybody standing in the road looks like roadkill to me."
"We should be putting pressure on other countries so there workers can have a decent life, instead of letting there countries bring us down."
Don't worry.
Bush is going to bomb them when he gets around to it.
That is, right after he drafts you back into the Army. He's a little short on bodies right now.
(LIVE bodies, that is. No shortage of dead ones.)
"we are infact a species of this planet"
Temporarily you are.
We Transhumans have plans for you. We intend to teach you what Darwinian competition is really about.
Have a nice day.
George Bush.
It'll never fix the need to spend hours playing the damn thing!
Being a former wannabe assassin, I just found the whole thing too addicting.
So I ended up doing fun stuff like running up to the front of the Triad restaurant, opening the door, shooting a couple of the guards, then backing out and closing the door. Some of the guards would eventually come out, and I'd mow them down. After a while - no more guards. But there was still too many on the other levels for this to work.
It was fun, though, just to shoot up the restaurant - like that guy in the McDonald's years ago. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Once I got to Colombia, I used an M-60 machine gun to pick off all the guards around those ruins, but it took a while to figure out (it should have been obvious) that the only way past the panther was to give him a meal of one of the dead guards!
Then, every time I tried to use the mini-gun in the drug lord's compound, I'd get killed. Just having the thing in your hands gets you killed.
So I dropped that idea, and just entered the house and killed the guards one at a time - which takes forever, although I eventually got it down to a few minutes. But that whole "Tony Montana" scene in the drug lord's office (funny as it was) usually ended up in my getting shot from behind by guards from outside the front door. So I started shooting them, too. That worked.
But I could never figure out how to get into the drug lab, since I couldn't take the drug lord's clothes and the guards at the drug lab wouldn't let anybody else dressed as a guard in, and I couldn't shoot my way in.
After you've run through a scenario repeatedly about 200 times trying to get it to work, it gets boring and frustrating.
Maybe some day I'll try Hit Man 2 or 3. But I'm not trying 1 again until somebody tells me how to blow up the drug lab.
You're either gay or you've never seen the Corrs!
Andrea was voted the most beautiful woman in the world - and Sharon is even better looking. (Caroline is no slouch, either.)
And if you are gay, there's always Jim!
Oh, it goes back further than that, actually.
Back around 1978, when the first few microcomputer stores were opening, I played that simple game where you have little planes flying overhead and a little cannon at the bottom of the screen to shoot them down (to give you an idea, the cannon was "graphically constructed" out of the vertical pipe symbol)on a Processor Tech micro (IIRC, it might have even been an Altair, I can't remember).
I wasted two hours on that stupid crap trying to "beat my high score", and swore never to do it again!
Back around 1986, I had an Atari 520ST which came with a similar game where you shoot down asteroids coming at you. Wasted more time with that one.
Then I actually bought the Neuromancer game (based on the Gibson book) for the Atari - and wasted more time on that.
I'd LIKE to be able to play games, but I simply can't afford to waste that kind of time. (Not that I don't waste time on other things, of course...but computer games would be insanely time wasting, even compared to listening to music or watching music videos of the Corrs...)
After twenty years of swearing never to play computer games because of the wasted time and frustration (when you lose, of course), I broke down and bought Hitman on sale for $10 at CompUSA.
And proceeded to waste hours and days of time, just like I knew I would.
And I never could figure out how to both kill the drug lord in Colombia AND blow up the drug lab.
So I trashed the game and went back to my old ways.
Meanwhile, I've seen Blade:Trinity twice and probably would see it a third time - except I'm broke for the next couple weeks.
Fuck computer games.
I agree with you.
And that theory has been seriously proffered by a lot of people.
Given that the Democrats had a ton of lawyers ready to watch and contest any 2000-like fraud in this election, Kerry rolled over like a floating log.
It's like all these theories that the CIA and the Bush Administration are fighting each other. Well, some lower-level members and former members of the CIA might not agree with how Bush is doing things, but anybody who thinks the higher-ups and the covert people who are really running things behind the scenes are in some sort of disagreement with Bush just doesn't understand reality. Bush Senior ran the CIA for years and has plenty of hooks into that organization and certainly knows about all the drug-running and other nastiness that went on during his tenure there. And the CIA supports the kind of world-view the Bushies promote because it means more job security and more power for the CIA. If anybody at the CIA has a complaint, it's that they might not be the ones calling ALL the shots - that's about it.
I agree with your comment.
I just had Wells Fargo pop up a notice every time I go their site telling me that my browser (Opera) will not be supported after December 31 (which actually makes no sense because it isn't "supported" now).
I sent them an email pointing out that IE is the least secure browser on the market and that of ten million FireFox downloads, most of whom are probably early adopters in California, there must be thousands of Wells Fargo customers.
Their customer service people replied that since the browser market is fast changing, they can't keep up with "certifying" every browser for security and compatibility with their site (which is bullshit, of course.) They did say, however, that they would turn my email over to Product Management. One would hope at some point that somebody with some technical smarts on their team will point out to them that they should start supporting more secure browsers, as it's only a matter of time before some customer's security gets breached via IE which will cause a problem for the company.
Let me point out something about your last comment.
I go to porn sites often, too. Guess what? They DON'T install spyware! Why should they? You (and I) are a captive audience! They KNOW what we want to see - they don't need to do market research and most "normal" companies don't advertise on porn sites anyway for PR reasons. So porn sites put on LESS spyware than other sites.
I had one client who had a ton of spyware. Where did he get it? Sports sites! They have advertisers and those advertisers want to know where you've been on the Web and what you click on.
It's the commercial sites of smaller, less reputable companies that use spyware for the most part, not porn sites.
" flaws in the Diebold systems that could compromise election results."
Not to mention the optical scanners, and the Florida programmer who wrote a vote rigging program, and the company bozos in Ohio who took the friggin' machines apart before a recount and told the voter people to put the totals on the wall so no one would see them and use those totals to make sure the hand recount came out equal to the machine total...
Even stupid ass Kerry is starting to realize something went wrong here...
"identify the executables through task manager and the "run" keys in the registry"
Heh, heh, you've never done this, have you?
Where do think he put in the five hours? He's a LINUX admin - he had to spend an hour or more figuring out which of the weirdly named processes in the process manager were legit.
Then he had to surf the Net to anti-spyware sites for an hour to identify all the spyware and determine WHICH registry keys and executables and DLLs had been scattered all over the system.
Then he had to go and delete each one - probably having to reboot at least two or three times.
And of course he missed one.
Oh, yeah, you can easily spend five hours on just a few dozen pieces of spyware that Ad-Aware and Spybot missed.
Almost nobody gets only ONE piece of spyware - that would be easy. It's dealing with 20, 50, 100 or more that takes time.
"The bugs he describes have already been fixed in Windows."
Which bugs?
The ones they announced last week?
Or the ones they will announce this week?
Or the ones they will announce next week?
Or the ones they will announce shortly after the release of Longhorn (sometime in 2008)...?
It's irrelevant what bugs Microsoft fixes. Windows IS a bug. So is Gates.
"You sir, are obviously not married."
/. - he can't even get a date!
Not married?
This is
Date? He hasn't even been apprised of the fact that there are two sexes!
Oh, wait, yes he has - vi and emacs...
Nope. I gave up because I couldn't even figure out the error messages and whether or not they were actually related to the failure to come up with a prompt.
This thing has a long way to go.
OTOH, one of my City College instructors uses it okay, so I guess it works for some people.
Armed bank robbery.
As a coincedence, I did the same nine years this hacker got. (Actually eight years, three months - I got some good time before the Feds changed the policy on that.)
"perhaps too much unless they can get parole in at most 2~3"
This guy is going to Federal prison. There IS NO parole from Federal prison. You get what is called "supervised release" at the end of your sentence - which is effectively similar to parole, but is not the same thing.
Oh, yeah, you can get time off for "good behavior". But the Feds changed that a few years ago. Before, you used to get 53 days a year knocked off your sentence if you didn't get any incident reports. Once you got 53 days for a given year, you had it - they couldn't take it back if you got incident reports in the future.
Now you don't actually get your time off "vested" until the day you're actually due to be released based on whatever time you COULD get vested. This allows the Feds to hit you with more incident reports, take your good time, and keep you longer.
And since it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to do Federal time without incident reports of some kind, this means the Feds get to keep most people longer.
This allows them to increase the prison population, demand more prisons and more money for the Bureau Of Prisons, and increase both their job security and their career paths.
And THAT'S why it was done.
As for where this guy will be going, it depends on his "points", which in turn depends on the crime, the number of criminal charges they were indicted on, any violence, presence of firearms, the amount of any money involved, etc. If they had access to hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of credit cards, they could get enough points to end up in a Federal Penitentiary (the second highest level in the Federal system - the first being a "Super-Max", the third being a Federal Correctional Institution, and the lowest being a Federal Camp.) He could easily end up in Leavenworth. After X years of his sentence with no incident reports, his points could be reduced enough to get down to an FCI, and eventually a Camp if he's lucky.
How he fares at a place like Leavenworth will depend on his smarts in dealing with people who are (presumably) much dumber (but more violent) than he is, as well as factors such as his physical presence, his attitude, his age, etc. I did four years at Leavenworth (after four years in other facilities), including two in "The Hole", and was never physically assaulted (by inmates, anyway - I was pushed around once by a correctional officer.)
Downloaded it, ran it, no love...
It managed to put an "X" in the taskbar and a shortcut on the desktop, but that was the apparent extent of its success. No prompt window ever came up - only assorted error messages in the cmd.exe window.
This is on Windows 2000, AMD CPU, 512MB RAM.
here and watch her video of her appearances on various talk shows, etc.
This is one hot babe!
Anyone wonder why it takes 40 million lines of code to do what 5.7 million do?
That's the real question.
And no, that doesn't include "all of Microsoft's applications."
What "included applications" were you referring to? Notepad? Gimme a break...
Linux is written by programmers who obviously love programming, since they work on it in their spare time outside their normal programming jobs.
Windows is written by 24-year-old recent college CS graduates who have no fucking clue how to do anything - managed by "product managers" who have even less clue - managed by corporate execs who are KNOWN ASSHOLES!
What part of this picture isn't FUCKING OBVIOUS?!
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"colaborative filtering"
"In addition, you have to deal with all the excel macros, lotus notes/exchange applications and forms, custom vb applications, etc."
You might as well add the several billions of lines of code written in COBOL thirty years ago.
The bottom line is: someday all that stuff is going to have to go.
And the sooner it goes, the less it is going to cost.
So it might as well go today (or over some reasonable transition period).
This, however, is not something a manager can comprehend.