Does that mean everything I code daily, I have to consult an army of lawyers to see if I am not accidentally violating one of a billion patents out there?
How do I know some tcp comms methods arent a patent by cisco, or MS ?
You cannot patent ideas.
Else I could patent everything in startrek that doesnt exist, and hope it violates patents in 20 years time.
It existed in the real world, and i bet you , if you searched all 10000 games made over 20 years, you will find some game there that had some weird menu or interface that had the same scrolling.
It doesnt have to be touch screen based, but any human input, ie, mouse + button press + move mouse Y coords, same as any input.
Btw, didnt the Wii do this too ?
And the early xbmc + dashboards for chipped xboxs.
Implementing the law of physics in a GUI doesnt deserve a patent.
They will move all stock to stores just out side the german borders in France+Poland+Chek
Germans can buy their own countries branded german tablets. There are some, ironically, probably violating the same patent, but still allowed to be sold.
Thank god Apple will never have such patent luck in China. The Judges , being part of the CCP, will ultimately favour the state and state corporations.
Something that is not tcp, and encrypted (not just byte for byte,but with -bogus bytes- mixed in to round up the size of traffic, so all files under 128 bytes will be all the same size, 128 bytes so LEOs cannot even use file sizes to narrow down your access).
Something that talks to many servers to get the content.
This would require a whole new server design, or proxy wrapper to existing http servers, but yeah bittorrent http would work.
A) bittorrent server can server all the http files B) your browser can re-server cached content to other browsers in your LAN or ISP subnet, or B class.
Anyone?
Start coding, make it truly difficult and so expensive for the govt, it would cost billions to achieve.
Will BMW now sue Mercs? or will Sony sue LG or a wil samsung sue Apple when it makes its Apple TV w/Sanyo parts?
Will Nikon sue Lumix because, wow your camera uses a damn lens, your camera uses the same knob.
God, get real, every one has a right to copy another product as-is. You cannot (C) or patent a "LOOK", coordinates of buttons, or the fact that buttons are a 4x6 matrix etc...
Nice tho, but, if you used computers pre 1995, pre 1991, and knew the 'hacker' and 'pirate' scene, you would have seen many games and indeed consoles had cuter better interfaces, ie ps2/xbox1, and xbmc.
Why didnt you guys get the sony ps2 game designers/graphics artists to design a futuristic GUI.
This is why hardcore geek engineers need to branch out and at least play games often to get the feel of alternative interfaces.
Though I can imagine the management being old farts in suits saying they want boring text on white like a paper document.
Hell, even in 1991 I've seen better interfaces on the Amiga.
Note: game coders can do wonders in a small amount of ram/cpu speed. (well the 1990s did)
But for a function like this, (that should be part of libc), its obvious what it does, it can be done many ways, and if it works, then as a second party, I dont care how you did it, or if its spaced out correctly, I will never look at it.
Write it in any crappy way, surely these days, there are auto formatting applets in VIM or IDEs that can fix bad formatting instantly.
After all your example there can be 100% done by code.
I get what you are trying to convey, alignment is needed even if the example is overly simple, to justify it.
1. Window managers should be kept simple, but highly flexible, but should not contain applets/menus etc..
2. All control panel stuff, should be really part of the OS and be not tied to any window manager, but run in all of them. Just like windows, can code for win32/.net/wpf/metro, just like the main linux UI api, aka gtk or qt. A WM should not be tied to those two. But perhaps have a higher level abstracted api that can use either. Apps/Applets can communicate to other apps or the WM via the DBUS, or via a core common api that is not tired to a WM.
2. It sounds like both Gnome&KDE need to work together to create a new layer thats common to all linux's, perhaps like a linux core desktop layer spec. XCORE perhaps. And their cute custom Wmanagers can sit on top, where a commonly written control panel system (part of XCORE) can run on both WMs.
3. Linux needs to redesign how X + WM + GNU work together. X11 + XCORE(qt+gtk+scriptbased api) + WM on top.
This way, the WMs can be more like 'theme styles' with applets.
Any way , too late, nothing will happen, and googles Chrome Desktop OS in JScript/Dart might take over, or some sort of hybrid Android 5 GUI with full desktop features might end up killing both GNOME/KDE if it + ADK can run inside any linux.
Prereleases The USB standard evolved through several versions before its official release in 1995: USB 0.7: Released in November 1994.
"Could Apple have implemented foreseen that USB would be the standard? "
The point of USB was to make it a standard!!!!
"The goal was to make it fundamentally easier to connect external devices to PCs by replacing the multitude of connectors at the back of PCs, addressing the usability issues of existing interfaces, and simplifying software configuration of all devices connected to USB, as well as permitting greater data rates for external devices." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
Dude, overlapping windows, is like some one trying to patent the printf() function thereby ruining it for everyone else.
Beginner coders in the 80s coded overlapping windows for text mode DOS 'window handlers', ie rect sections for text/textmode windows.
It shouldnt matter if its rendered using a raster pixmap, or ascii mode using ------------ or | | etc.... or rendered using vector monitors, or 3d GL stuff.
The concept is a natural progression of needs of programmers.
Its like exam questions at school, if 80% of students can answer the question, then the question cant really be made into a patent, can it.... only really hard to create efforts deserver a patent.
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My 7in screen laptop is portable.
Everything with a CPU is a computer.
The amiga did scrolling smoothly, made the PC look like shit.
Nothing like accurate interrupts synced to screen refresh or using vblank signal.
Does that mean everything I code daily, I have to consult an army of lawyers to see if I am not accidentally violating one of a billion patents out there?
How do I know some tcp comms methods arent a patent by cisco, or MS ?
You cannot patent ideas.
Else I could patent everything in startrek that doesnt exist, and hope it violates patents in 20 years time.
Imagine that, apple wins, and gets every single android phone to be kicked of 2g/3g networks.
1, it would never happen, and 2, there would be riots burning down all apple stores.
All 3d games, simulate a real world in 3D.
Pressing a REAL button , ie a console with a big red button called, "self destruct".
Of course it will animate, because it will simulate real life.
ie the 3d object called button, has a 3d virtual spring underneath it.
Let them patent their source code, but any deviations by one line, should not violate the patent.
Descriptions of the end result should not be patentable, stupid patent lawyers. Dumbasses.
It did exist before apple made it.
It existed in the real world, and i bet you , if you searched all 10000 games made over 20 years, you will find some game there that had some weird menu or interface that had the same scrolling.
It doesnt have to be touch screen based, but any human input, ie, mouse + button press + move mouse Y coords, same as any input.
Btw, didnt the Wii do this too ?
And the early xbmc + dashboards for chipped xboxs.
Implementing the law of physics in a GUI doesnt deserve a patent.
They will move all stock to stores just out side the german borders in France+Poland+Chek
Germans can buy their own countries branded german tablets. There are some, ironically, probably violating the same patent, but still allowed to be sold.
Thank god Apple will never have such patent luck in China. The Judges , being part of the CCP, will ultimately favour the state and state corporations.
Maybe a HTTP over BitTorrent maybe.
Something that is not tcp, and encrypted (not just byte for byte ,but with -bogus bytes- mixed in to round up the size of traffic, so all files under 128 bytes will be all the same size, 128 bytes so LEOs cannot even use file sizes to narrow down your access).
Something that talks to many servers to get the content.
This would require a whole new server design, or proxy wrapper to existing http servers, but yeah bittorrent http would work.
A) bittorrent server can server all the http files
B) your browser can re-server cached content to other browsers in your LAN or ISP subnet, or B class.
Anyone?
Start coding, make it truly difficult and so expensive for the govt, it would cost billions to achieve.
Will BMW now sue Mercs? or will Sony sue LG or a wil samsung sue Apple when it makes its Apple TV w/Sanyo parts?
Will Nikon sue Lumix because, wow your camera uses a damn lens, your camera uses the same knob.
God, get real, every one has a right to copy another product as-is. You cannot (C) or patent a "LOOK", coordinates of buttons, or the fact that buttons are a 4x6 matrix etc...
maybe samsung should hire her to do an ad , showing her use a galaxy S3, and say, "I love the S3 more"
And Steve already paid, hence the result.
Correct this, to lots of un-elected leaders.
Please list all the attendees, and which are elected.
Which are leaders in what.
How rich they are.
How they know.
How they are married to (ie interfamily ties with other prominent families/circles).
Well, duh, in the qantum world thats how it works. The LHC does the same thing over and over again, looking for that different result.
Do insane people really expect anything? They wont.
Either they hear voices or they are ultra paranoid to the max, over analyzing events/future, concluding wrong things.
Then again, doing a get request using http to google.com/news gives different results over time.
Looking at the sky at the same location, over time gives different results.
Tcpdumping an ethernet port every day, gives different results, is that insane?
I got that impression from watching Celsius 800+111
Then all people that believe in gods or promote mythical fairy tales (disney) are promoting insanity? What santa isnt real?
Why does every parent lie to their children about Cokacola santa and the Nestle bunny?
A rhino is a big fat unicorn gone wrong on steroids.
In all respects are rhino is a unicorn.
is believing in god or jesus or other profets as equally insane?
Prove that god exists dude.
Color is irrelevant , you cant patent black or white.
All corners are round, at the atom level.
Besides walk into a tv retailer, 99% of tvs look identical, 100% black, 100% same shape.
Just border sizes are diff.
It looks like the iPad mini about to be released.
If every coder/geek watched startrek 5000 times, the concept of tablets + flat screen + touch screen is there in their heads.
Nice tho, but, if you used computers pre 1995, pre 1991, and knew the 'hacker' and 'pirate' scene, you would have seen many games and indeed consoles had cuter better interfaces, ie ps2/xbox1, and xbmc.
Why didnt you guys get the sony ps2 game designers/graphics artists to design a futuristic GUI.
This is why hardcore geek engineers need to branch out and at least play games often to get the feel of alternative interfaces.
Though I can imagine the management being old farts in suits saying they want boring text on white like a paper document.
Hell, even in 1991 I've seen better interfaces on the Amiga.
Note: game coders can do wonders in a small amount of ram/cpu speed. (well the 1990s did)
But for a function like this, (that should be part of libc), its obvious what it does, it can be done many ways, and if it works, then as a second party, I dont care how you did it, or if its spaced out correctly, I will never look at it.
Write it in any crappy way, surely these days, there are auto formatting applets in VIM or IDEs that can fix bad formatting instantly.
After all your example there can be 100% done by code.
I get what you are trying to convey, alignment is needed even if the example is overly simple, to justify it.
All this dev is on the wrong path.
1. Window managers should be kept simple, but highly flexible, but should not contain applets/menus etc..
2. All control panel stuff, should be really part of the OS and be not tied to any window manager, but run in all of them. Just like windows, can code for win32/.net/wpf/metro, just like the main linux UI api, aka gtk or qt. A WM should not be tied to those two. But perhaps have a higher level abstracted api that can use either. Apps/Applets can communicate to other apps or the WM via the DBUS, or via a core common api that is not tired to a WM.
2. It sounds like both Gnome&KDE need to work together to create a new layer thats common to all linux's, perhaps like a linux core desktop layer spec. XCORE perhaps. And their cute custom Wmanagers can sit on top, where a commonly written control panel system (part of XCORE) can run on both WMs.
3. Linux needs to redesign how X + WM + GNU work together. X11 + XCORE(qt+gtk+scriptbased api) + WM on top.
This way, the WMs can be more like 'theme styles' with applets.
Any way , too late, nothing will happen, and googles Chrome Desktop OS in JScript/Dart might take over, or some sort of hybrid Android 5 GUI with full desktop features might end up killing both GNOME/KDE if it + ADK can run inside any linux.
Prereleases
The USB standard evolved through several versions before its official release in 1995:
USB 0.7: Released in November 1994.
"Could Apple have implemented foreseen that USB would be the standard? "
The point of USB was to make it a standard!!!!
"The goal was to make it fundamentally easier to connect external devices to PCs by replacing the multitude of connectors at the back of PCs, addressing the usability issues of existing interfaces, and simplifying software configuration of all devices connected to USB, as well as permitting greater data rates for external devices." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
My camera has a custom plug, but also has miniHDMI
Now I know hdmi1.4 supports ethernet over cable.
Dude, overlapping windows, is like some one trying to patent the printf() function thereby ruining it for everyone else.
Beginner coders in the 80s coded overlapping windows for text mode DOS 'window handlers', ie rect sections for text/textmode windows.
It shouldnt matter if its rendered using a raster pixmap, or ascii mode using ------------ or | | etc.... or rendered using vector monitors, or 3d GL stuff.
The concept is a natural progression of needs of programmers.
Its like exam questions at school, if 80% of students can answer the question, then the question cant really be made into a patent, can it.... only really hard to create efforts deserver a patent.