As ESr points out himself on the site - let the lawyers subpoena the mail, then we will all know if it is true or not.... anyway, truth is subjective at best, and the real question is "what does it matter?" nobody needs *proof* that MS hates Linux/OSS, and what difference does it make that SCO got backed for 10 mil or 100 mil? We all know that they are in the endgame right now, and from where I am standing the whole SCO case has not done much to damage my considerable Linux business. If anything, it did Linux some good - it got a lot of people asking that otherwise would not have cared, and people asking is always a great opportunity to evangalise.
Don't want to sound like a flame,but have you *ever* worked with end users? They will have your hide before you even get halfway explaining this, let alone allow you to contemplate implementing this. If it is a word virus, they will view it in their browser, that simply fires up word, and thus lets you execute whatever 3l337 macro sh*t is going in there, and if it is a binary from a trused source they will reflect and *then* think about launching or not? bets are it is "nakedchix.exe", sent to you by your bestest buddy, who's mailer got infected....
dude, if I had to look at a desktop like that the whole day, I would also get unusually sensitive eyes, as well as some serious other accessibility requirements, primarily in the mental area....
Dude, you must have ducked the last time somebody started swinging the old cluebat around. "Them's the breaks" indeed.... a stupid windows user makes for a very good linux user. You fail, just like MS, to differentiate between machine user and machine admin. While a stupid windows user has full admin access out of the box to all his settings, config, hardware setup etc. a linux user does not. Simply by virtue of most of the distro's making a point of creating a seperate root account during setup, and explaining why, ensures you shield the user from the most common types of mayhem (s)he can create. The "stupid" user has to really go out of his/her way to actually screw things up bigtime, something they usually don't really set out to do.
Well, some of the problems are different "The migration plan is more complex than simply replacing Windows with Linux, according to an outline provided by the Munich information department. Studies on open-source security, desktop ergonomics and the software components' stability and compatibility with other applications will be included in the process."... and that is costing more money then expected, and thus raises questions about financial viability. What pisses me off is that these kind of studies are hardly ever conducted when you do a Windows to Windows migration, although the issues, impacts and risks are just as high.
If the lack of an (already available) modem applet for KDe is what makes your LUG proclaim "KDE is only for experienced users!" then your LUG is full of idiots. Anybody who falls for the (Sun Microsystems induced) "no options is good, some options is bad/Microsoft's interface choices are all great because they are the defacto standard" mantra that the Gnome crowd have been chanting is totally out of touch with how IT is actually applied in the field, be it at home or at work. I would be happy to learn about the missing key functions in KDE for the (linux) newbie, though. With my regards to your LUG.
Why would a consumer have to go through a kernel recompile? what a ridiculous world view -- linux support for consumers can't happen because of the handholding needed for a kernel recompile. If I buy a supported laptop/PC, with a dell supported OS, there is no need at all for me as a consumer to even know that i could recompile the kernel, let alone do it. Your definition of an enterprise effort is likewise clueless, as is your absolutely nonsensical notion of what dell can and cannot do with Linux. If you would have bothered to visit the site, you would note that dell does indeed ship desktop machines with linux preinstalled. Kernel recompile not required.
Your assertion fails when you state what open source developers should and should not do in order to gain end-user acceptance. Whereas a commercial outfit has a motive to sell as many copies of the software they create just in order to survive, and must therefore carefully think about and target their audience/market, most open source developers are simply "scratching their itch", and if others can benefit from that, then fine. If they can't, then, well, tough... Projects that directly target the non-developing enduser, such as OpenOffice, and to a lesser extent KDE etc. should, of course, take the non-developer end user as their main audience, something that is very, very difficult. If you are an end user and you need easy-peasy, non technical, non developer software, you can always go for the paid-for open source software (not Free Software, usually) such as Xandros, Lindows, StarOffice, etc. there is plenty of hand holding there.
Unless, of course, you expect handholding for free, a different case alltogether.....
doesn't feature disconnected mode - and given that the article discusses AFS, InterMezzo and Coda, all of whom support disconnected mode natively, I guess that that would be a requirement.
The Slashdot polling timer is broken - I feed every 61 minutes, and still get kicked out one every week or so. I appreciate that they want to keep their b/w as low as possible, but for what pretends to be a news site, you have to let people be up to date. maybe a nice subscriber option (hint hint)
No, not because open source is perfect, but because the guy is plainly an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about, Dr. or no Dr. Forking is extremely healthy -- look, for example, at the Apache project. Apache is in a continous state of forking, with bits falling off and bits being tacked on all the time. For example, IBM will take a specific version of Apache, create a fork, put it in Websphere, and after some time, trickle some changes back to the Apache project.
Clearly, Apache is a massive example of a successful Open Source project.
As the other poster rightly asked: "how much did he get paid by MS?"
Hmm, there must be something wrong here - I went to the demo site, and all I can find is a version that will run on Windows. Could you point me to the one that I can run on my Linux machine?
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Try the UN - they have people flying all over the place all the time. They will work primarily in Africa, South America and Asia (ie rural development areas) and you will be doing stuff such as setting up wireless broadband networks, teaching locals how to use technology, and pushing lots of Linux and Open source Software to its limits. You won't make lots of money, but you will gain lots of experience, get the good feeling that you are actually using technology to help those who most need it, and you get to see some interesting places.
The UN job site is currently showing 20 IT related jobs. Have fun.
Yeah, but that isn't really "travelling" as in "seeing lots of places", more like seeing lots of airports and taxis, and customer machine rooms. trust me, a machine room in London looks exactly like a machine room in paris, and all airports look the same these days.
He *is* pretty stupid, and a dumbass to boot. (disclaimer: I don't have *any* gaming console, and don't even know what this stuff does, so I am not on anybodies "side") on his "IPR VIOLATION" post he states: "....this does not give Xlink the right to use our code as it is not under a GNU/ GPL license. Our license acts much like a standard BSD license and Xlink does not have the express written consent of Warp Pipe to repackage or redistribute in any way....
A standard BSD license allows you to do anything you like with the code, including closing the source or changing the license, or even print it out an wipe your butt with it. The guy is just clueless. his thoughtprocess probably went something like:
"Dude! If I, eh, like, eh, OPEN SOURCE my code it wil be like , eh, dude, eh, like, eh, LINUX!!! And I will be TOTALLY K3WL!1!1! And all the chix will dig me!!!"
hmmm... prelinking - a lot of the problems the reviewer is talking about can be attributed to prelinking - prelinking is more trouble than it is worth, IMO.
*emotional*? Revolutions was not emotional, it was claptrap - I just came out of the cinema, and the *only* good moment was when Neo was looking at Trinitry, the air laden with tension and unspoken promises, and Neo says: "I have something to tell you", and I shouted "I wanna have sex with your sister!". Most people were still sniggering 30 minutes later......
Well, I have the ESX server CD's, and several machines running ESX server. If the kernel isn't Linux, it is a very good imitation. Tell me what info you need as proof, and I'll provide.
VMWare grossly abuses the GPL with their ESXServer product. They use a highly modified linux kernel for their host OS, and the host OS is clearly Linux. however, there is no source for the new kernel they install, and when asked (I did so at a few presentations) they simply chuckle, and mutter something about hell freezing over. None different really from how sw-soft is behaving with their vitruozzo product.
Everywhere I look in the enterprise space there are software companies trampling all over the GPL. We need a good strong courtcase to send some of these fuckers a message.....
To start off with, almost every PC bought would have had the Microsoft Tax slapped on it already, so the "economical sense" does not make much sense. Secondly, $199 is chump change for most movies you and I will get to see on telly or at the movies, so $99 doesn't really matter, and thirly, by far the vast majority of "OS" shots are usually powerpoint slides or somesuch (*much* easier to "customise")
And how, exactly, is the abillity of the random coder to add elements to key parts of what is supposed to be stable, non-changing system real estate an improvement and in-line with good UI design, or even inline with good usability design....?
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Then there are Jamie Oliver's recipies - simple to prepare, tasty, and usually really fast. The guy is a great chef, and the recipies are fantastic.
As ESr points out himself on the site - let the lawyers subpoena the mail, then we will all know if it is true or not.... anyway, truth is subjective at best, and the real question is "what does it matter?" nobody needs *proof* that MS hates Linux/OSS, and what difference does it make that SCO got backed for 10 mil or 100 mil? We all know that they are in the endgame right now, and from where I am standing the whole SCO case has not done much to damage my considerable Linux business. If anything, it did Linux some good - it got a lot of people asking that otherwise would not have cared, and people asking is always a great opportunity to evangalise.
Don't want to sound like a flame,but have you *ever* worked with end users? They will have your hide before you even get halfway explaining this, let alone allow you to contemplate implementing this. If it is a word virus, they will view it in their browser, that simply fires up word, and thus lets you execute whatever 3l337 macro sh*t is going in there, and if it is a binary from a trused source they will reflect and *then* think about launching or not? bets are it is "nakedchix.exe", sent to you by your bestest buddy, who's mailer got infected....
+1 Funny for your post dude....
dude, if I had to look at a desktop like that the whole day, I would also get unusually sensitive eyes, as well as some serious other accessibility requirements, primarily in the mental area....
Dude, you must have ducked the last time somebody started swinging the old cluebat around. "Them's the breaks" indeed.... a stupid windows user makes for a very good linux user. You fail, just like MS, to differentiate between machine user and machine admin. While a stupid windows user has full admin access out of the box to all his settings, config, hardware setup etc. a linux user does not. Simply by virtue of most of the distro's making a point of creating a seperate root account during setup, and explaining why, ensures you shield the user from the most common types of mayhem (s)he can create. The "stupid" user has to really go out of his/her way to actually screw things up bigtime, something they usually don't really set out to do.
Well, some of the problems are different "The migration plan is more complex than simply replacing Windows with Linux, according to an outline provided by the Munich information department. Studies on open-source security, desktop ergonomics and the software components' stability and compatibility with other applications will be included in the process." ... and that is costing more money then expected, and thus raises questions about financial viability. What pisses me off is that these kind of studies are hardly ever conducted when you do a Windows to Windows migration, although the issues, impacts and risks are just as high.
If the lack of an (already available) modem applet for KDe is what makes your LUG proclaim "KDE is only for experienced users!" then your LUG is full of idiots. Anybody who falls for the (Sun Microsystems induced) "no options is good, some options is bad/Microsoft's interface choices are all great because they are the defacto standard" mantra that the Gnome crowd have been chanting is totally out of touch with how IT is actually applied in the field, be it at home or at work. I would be happy to learn about the missing key functions in KDE for the (linux) newbie, though. With my regards to your LUG.
The top of that same page states:"Currently, all Dell N-Series Precision Workstation desktops are available and supported with Red Hat Linux"
Why would a consumer have to go through a kernel recompile? what a ridiculous world view -- linux support for consumers can't happen because of the handholding needed for a kernel recompile. If I buy a supported laptop/PC, with a dell supported OS, there is no need at all for me as a consumer to even know that i could recompile the kernel, let alone do it. Your definition of an enterprise effort is likewise clueless, as is your absolutely nonsensical notion of what dell can and cannot do with Linux. If you would have bothered to visit the site, you would note that dell does indeed ship desktop machines with linux preinstalled. Kernel recompile not required.
the article states they no written policies about computer use whatsoever.
Your assertion fails when you state what open source developers should and should not do in order to gain end-user acceptance. Whereas a commercial outfit has a motive to sell as many copies of the software they create just in order to survive, and must therefore carefully think about and target their audience/market, most open source developers are simply "scratching their itch", and if others can benefit from that, then fine. If they can't, then, well, tough... Projects that directly target the non-developing enduser, such as OpenOffice, and to a lesser extent KDE etc. should, of course, take the non-developer end user as their main audience, something that is very, very difficult. If you are an end user and you need easy-peasy, non technical, non developer software, you can always go for the paid-for open source software (not Free Software, usually) such as Xandros, Lindows, StarOffice, etc. there is plenty of hand holding there.
Unless, of course, you expect handholding for free, a different case alltogether.....
doesn't feature disconnected mode - and given that the article discusses AFS, InterMezzo and Coda, all of whom support disconnected mode natively, I guess that that would be a requirement.
The Slashdot polling timer is broken - I feed every 61 minutes, and still get kicked out one every week or so. I appreciate that they want to keep their b/w as low as possible, but for what pretends to be a news site, you have to let people be up to date. maybe a nice subscriber option (hint hint)
No, not because open source is perfect, but because the guy is plainly an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about, Dr. or no Dr. Forking is extremely healthy -- look, for example, at the Apache project. Apache is in a continous state of forking, with bits falling off and bits being tacked on all the time. For example, IBM will take a specific version of Apache, create a fork, put it in Websphere, and after some time, trickle some changes back to the Apache project.
Clearly, Apache is a massive example of a successful Open Source project.
As the other poster rightly asked: "how much did he get paid by MS?"
Hmm, there must be something wrong here - I went to the demo site, and all I can find is a version that will run on Windows. Could you point me to the one that I can run on my Linux machine?
Try the UN - they have people flying all over the place all the time. They will work primarily in Africa, South America and Asia (ie rural development areas) and you will be doing stuff such as setting up wireless broadband networks, teaching locals how to use technology, and pushing lots of Linux and Open source Software to its limits. You won't make lots of money, but you will gain lots of experience, get the good feeling that you are actually using technology to help those who most need it, and you get to see some interesting places.
The UN job site is currently showing 20 IT related jobs. Have fun.
Yeah, but that isn't really "travelling" as in "seeing lots of places", more like seeing lots of airports and taxis, and customer machine rooms. trust me, a machine room in London looks exactly like a machine room in paris, and all airports look the same these days.
He *is* pretty stupid, and a dumbass to boot. (disclaimer: I don't have *any* gaming console, and don't even know what this stuff does, so I am not on anybodies "side") on his "IPR VIOLATION" post he states: "....this does not give Xlink the right to use our code as it is not under a GNU/ GPL license. Our license acts much like a standard BSD license and Xlink does not have the express written consent of Warp Pipe to repackage or redistribute in any way....
A standard BSD license allows you to do anything you like with the code, including closing the source or changing the license, or even print it out an wipe your butt with it. The guy is just clueless. his thoughtprocess probably went something like:
"Dude! If I, eh, like, eh, OPEN SOURCE my code it wil be like , eh, dude, eh, like, eh, LINUX!!! And I will be TOTALLY K3WL!1!1! And all the chix will dig me!!!"
What an idiot.
hmmm... prelinking - a lot of the problems the reviewer is talking about can be attributed to prelinking - prelinking is more trouble than it is worth, IMO.
*emotional*? Revolutions was not emotional, it was claptrap - I just came out of the cinema, and the *only* good moment was when Neo was looking at Trinitry, the air laden with tension and unspoken promises, and Neo says: "I have something to tell you", and I shouted "I wanna have sex with your sister!". Most people were still sniggering 30 minutes later......
Yes, I'm sure it isn't *BSD.......
Well, I have the ESX server CD's, and several machines running ESX server. If the kernel isn't Linux, it is a very good imitation. Tell me what info you need as proof, and I'll provide.
VMWare grossly abuses the GPL with their ESXServer product. They use a highly modified linux kernel for their host OS, and the host OS is clearly Linux. however, there is no source for the new kernel they install, and when asked (I did so at a few presentations) they simply chuckle, and mutter something about hell freezing over. None different really from how sw-soft is behaving with their vitruozzo product.
Everywhere I look in the enterprise space there are software companies trampling all over the GPL. We need a good strong courtcase to send some of these fuckers a message.....
To start off with, almost every PC bought would have had the Microsoft Tax slapped on it already, so the "economical sense" does not make much sense. Secondly, $199 is chump change for most movies you and I will get to see on telly or at the movies, so $99 doesn't really matter, and thirly, by far the vast majority of "OS" shots are usually powerpoint slides or somesuch (*much* easier to "customise")
And how, exactly, is the abillity of the random coder to add elements to key parts of what is supposed to be stable, non-changing system real estate an improvement and in-line with good UI design, or even inline with good usability design....?