There should be a project that unifies these things together and allows programmers to code with a single language/tool and handle the browser differences, etc. Perhaps there already is? This would be very powerful, perhaps it can be approached as a XUL to Javascript 'compiler' of sorts
What wikipedia should do is work on creating a richer GUI such that more processing (as far as editing pages) would be done on the client side. There are a ton of things that can be done, and I don't want to list them, but this would 1. encourage more submissions, 2. reduce the traffic load. I know there is a software client in the works, but something in the browser would be nice as 99 percent of people will not download the client. Look at how much better the recent maps.google.com is to use than mapquest, there is something that Google can really help wikipedia with. I had mentioned about a week ago that a great feature would be to be able to click anywhere in the text (perhaps after activating a tool, or while holding shift or something) and have a text area open up at that location, I input some new content, I click out, I see the changes (all of this can happen in javascript, if there was an engine that could convert wiki markup to HTML), then when I'm ready I can commit the changes in one fell swoop. Notice that the server only gets hit once during the whole process. Keyboard shortcuts would be nice too, to jump between sections, and collapse/uncollapse them, etc. Again, there are tons more things, but not all of them would help the ease the load. Or is the editing / viewing history not a signifact percentage of the traffic?
Alright sorry, Bin Laden himself didn't receive aid until later, whats your point? If you don't believe Brzezinski the only thing that is interesting in that interview is his contention that we were supporting them _before_ the USSR invaded in hopes of instigating an attack, the rest is part of the record. Admittedly this part could be 'burnish,' (although at the time the USSR contended otherwise) but again I don't see your point.
Specifically, in Afghanistan, the support came from the US under Carter in the form of Bin Laden and the Taliban. Alot of people have forgotten this little tidbit.
There is a very interesting 1998 interview Brzezinski, Carter's National Security Advisor where he says that aid to Afghanistan occured even before the USSR invaded, to force them into the "Afghan Trap" and "giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Pretty interesting stuff that he couldn't say today. Especially the last two questions:
"Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries."
The revolution didn't come because the populace was forced into dependance on Saddam after being starved from 10 years of US bombing and sanctions, which I don't think is a coincidence.
... and as long as I am at it, I have been wondering for years (especially after reading this), where is Google Hosting?
They have the infrastructure for cheap space and bandwidth, why not use it to provide a truly capable hosting solution, with the ability to install whatever you want, etc. I'm sure they could figure out some way to do that without security concerns along with a host of other things that is wrong with hosting, no pun intended.
Take this a bit further and if they could add a rich UI on top of that, voila you've got yourself a Gdrive.com. Hold files, share them with others easily, manage photos, keep bookmarks, stream your mp3s even (maybe a bit much), etc, whatever. Some explorer like interface where you can make folders, drag files around and so on and now you've got yourself thin-client computing. best of all? no need for desktop search, accessible from anywhere. I don't know how long it takes Google to develop the Javascript/DHTML for all this, but man this would be a killer. Or am I crazy?
Wikipedia would be one place that could really benefit from a rich client treatment like gmail or maps.google.com. If you could lower the bar substantially on how easy it is to edit and manage changes it could grow much more quickly.
There have been so many times that I have wanted to contribute to a page, but just was to lazy to load the edit page, etc..
Really, wikipedia could do this themselves. I see something like an edit tool, click the tool, click where in the text you want to edit the article, a text box pops open with x lines before and after the place were you clicked and you can type immediately, click outside of the text box and it dissapears and your changes are added (without any page reloads). I can think of much more sophisticated tools (moving sections around, etc) but just this ability would be a huge step IMO.
I don't know what you are refering to by "chemical and industrial environments," but the NEAT method is being used in game contexts, for example NERO. I also know that the UT robocup team uses many forms of machine learning to for its bots as does every other team. Modern learning methods can solve complex problems.
this is not Informative in the least, its absurd. Neural Network methods have outperformed explicit techniques in many areas for a long time, same goes for GAs. In fact, a combination of the two methds has also been very effective. See NEAT for an example.
I'm not sure how much truth there is to it, but my understanding is that grandparent is saying that those results are there because the sites have found ways of optimizing for the search (link farms, etc)
"No, no, no. I didn't say those people were 'communists.' I did say that they're... The question is: what incentive systems should exist in the world?"
Take, like, putting soundtracks onto movies using our movie editor thing. If you have unprotected music you can take slideshows, put music to it, encapsulate it in the file, mail it aroundit works perfectly.
Why he's a regular guy next door!
Is it just me or is there something a little fishy about this interview?;)
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There should be a project that unifies these things together and allows programmers to code with a single language/tool and handle the browser differences, etc. Perhaps there already is? This would be very powerful, perhaps it can be approached as a XUL to Javascript 'compiler' of sorts
you can still have the same flexibility on the back end with java/flash
What wikipedia should do is work on creating a richer GUI such that more processing (as far as editing pages) would be done on the client side. There are a ton of things that can be done, and I don't want to list them, but this would 1. encourage more submissions, 2. reduce the traffic load.
I know there is a software client in the works, but something in the browser would be nice as 99 percent of people will not download the client. Look at how much better the recent maps.google.com is to use than mapquest, there is something that Google can really help wikipedia with.
I had mentioned about a week ago that a great feature would be to be able to click anywhere in the text (perhaps after activating a tool, or while holding shift or something) and have a text area open up at that location, I input some new content, I click out, I see the changes (all of this can happen in javascript, if there was an engine that could convert wiki markup to HTML), then when I'm ready I can commit the changes in one fell swoop. Notice that the server only gets hit once during the whole process. Keyboard shortcuts would be nice too, to jump between sections, and collapse/uncollapse them, etc. Again, there are tons more things, but not all of them would help the ease the load.
Or is the editing / viewing history not a signifact percentage of the traffic?
Alright sorry, Bin Laden himself didn't receive aid until later, whats your point?
If you don't believe Brzezinski the only thing that is interesting in that interview is his contention that we were supporting them _before_ the USSR invaded in hopes of instigating an attack, the rest is part of the record. Admittedly this part could be 'burnish,' (although at the time the USSR contended otherwise) but again I don't see your point.
There is a very interesting 1998 interview Brzezinski, Carter's National Security Advisor where he says that aid to Afghanistan occured even before the USSR invaded, to force them into the "Afghan Trap" and "giving to the USSR its Vietnam war." Pretty interesting stuff that he couldn't say today. Especially the last two questions:
The revolution didn't come because the populace was forced into dependance on Saddam after being starved from 10 years of US bombing and sanctions, which I don't think is a coincidence.
... and as long as I am at it, I have been wondering for years (especially after reading this), where is Google Hosting?
They have the infrastructure for cheap space and bandwidth, why not use it to provide a truly capable hosting solution, with the ability to install whatever you want, etc. I'm sure they could figure out some way to do that without security concerns along with a host of other things that is wrong with hosting, no pun intended.
Take this a bit further and if they could add a rich UI on top of that, voila you've got yourself a Gdrive.com. Hold files, share them with others easily, manage photos, keep bookmarks, stream your mp3s even (maybe a bit much), etc, whatever. Some explorer like interface where you can make folders, drag files around and so on and now you've got yourself thin-client computing. best of all? no need for desktop search, accessible from anywhere. I don't know how long it takes Google to develop the Javascript/DHTML for all this, but man this would be a killer. Or am I crazy?
Wikipedia would be one place that could really benefit from a rich client treatment like gmail or maps.google.com. If you could lower the bar substantially on how easy it is to edit and manage changes it could grow much more quickly.
There have been so many times that I have wanted to contribute to a page, but just was to lazy to load the edit page, etc..
Really, wikipedia could do this themselves. I see something like an edit tool, click the tool, click where in the text you want to edit the article, a text box pops open with x lines before and after the place were you clicked and you can type immediately, click outside of the text box and it dissapears and your changes are added (without any page reloads). I can think of much more sophisticated tools (moving sections around, etc) but just this ability would be a huge step IMO.
but.. I thought that they were infallible..
or even worse that food goes to waste with a 5th of the world hungry and 24,000 people dying daily of starvation..
followed this link from your page
I don't know what you are refering to by "chemical and industrial environments," but the NEAT method is being used in game contexts, for example NERO. I also know that the UT robocup team uses many forms of machine learning to for its bots as does every other team. Modern learning methods can solve complex problems.
except the mice with human brains..
this is not Informative in the least, its absurd. Neural Network methods have outperformed explicit techniques in many areas for a long time, same goes for GAs. In fact, a combination of the two methds has also been very effective. See NEAT for an example.
I'm not sure how much truth there is to it, but my understanding is that grandparent is saying that those results are there because the sites have found ways of optimizing for the search (link farms, etc)
I don't see whats so great about that. You could just "for in" through a list comprehension and do the same thing..
someone put this up on HotorNot.
I posted this in another comment too, but it seems this explains why.
its you, go here first. ;)
"No, no, no. I didn't say those people were 'communists.' I did say that they're... The question is: what incentive systems should exist in the world?"
;)
Take, like, putting soundtracks onto movies using our movie editor thing. If you have unprotected music you can take slideshows, put music to it, encapsulate it in the file, mail it aroundit works perfectly.
Why he's a regular guy next door!
Is it just me or is there something a little fishy about this interview?
where is the straw man argument here?
exactly my thoughts. if only we had a slashdot with 'smarter' editors..
10 dollars to the person who guesses at exactly what point in writing the post parent picked up the ganj.