Not to mention the small fact that the brits invented the jet engine but gave the design to the US for free for war costs (yes, the US charged the british for the some help in the war whereas the west germans got a nice free rebuild of their society at no cost)
... the car decides to download and install new firmware at the exact same time as Mick Mechanic pulls the battery or the main fuse out? A very VERY expensive brick?
"A graphics stack that's fast enough to get 60 FPS scrolling on an embedded GPU"
If you want that sort of performance on a limited power device just write to the framebuffer directly. X doesn't have a monopoly on talking to the graphics hardware.
"Try using X over even a decent broadband connection and prepare for agony"
I do it often , never had a problem. Hell , I even used to run xterms over a modem link FFS!
"he same application over to your cellphone or notebook without having to close & restart the application"
Not a problem if the application is written to support it. There's no limit to the number of X servers an app can link to at any given time.
"Why does NX even exist if X is already perfect???"
No one is claiming X is perfect - but why would I would to exchange something thats imperfect for something that apart from eye candy potential had very reduced functionality and is clearly broken from a network point of view.
I've never had any dependency issues other than open/libre office whining about some missing libs but I force installed it anyway and have never had a problem except with a few obscure powerpoint slides.
"If you're using openvpn, drop the configuration in/etc/openvpn and make sure the your certificate, your keyfile and you CA certificate are accessible for openvpn. (Me, I just dump them in/etc/openvpn/connectioname folders). Then adapt/etc/default/openvpn and set those you want to autostart. "
Yes, obviously thats so much easier than typing "ssh @"
"That said, you do need to install a few packages. Which ones shouldn't be hard to figure out."
Lifes too short. If my company want me to work from home they can do the donkey work.
Unlike most distros you get a non-fucked-about-with kernel the way Linus released it and its very very stable. Granted , its not very user friendly but if you have even moderate linux skills this really won't be an issue.
I have to take a Windows laptop home so I can use a VPN to start a putty session to log into a terminal to do unix system maintenance instead of just ssh'ing from my home linux box (yes , I know I can put VPN on linux but its hassle).
When I've asked why they can't just have an open ssh port they start waffling about security. I'm sorry , since when are VPNs more secure than ssh? Never, thats when. I'm sick and tired of know-nothing Windows admins running IT infrastructure.
After all, there are no pointers, buffer overruns arn't possible without an exception being thrown as managed code evangelists keep telling us old school C++ guys , so how can there possibly be an exploit?
Oh wait, whats that? If the VM has a bug you're screwed? Oh dear, that doesn't sound good. Still, I'm sure it can't be true. VMs are the answer to everything arn't they?
"If I have 1 stock Company XYZ that's valued at $10 dollars and it goes up $1 dollar, somewhere someone has lost $1 dollar?"
No one loses or gains anything until you sell it , then someone has to spend $11 instead of $10 to buy it. That extra $1 you made didn't appear out the ether. This really isn't rocket science FFS.
"nd can't seem to see that wealth is much more than that, case in point in 2009 approximately 45% of the 'wealth' generated in the U.S was monetary, ie. Stock Market investments"
The money markets don't generate any wealth - they simply move money around. Someone gains a lot of money through lots of people spending or losing it. Where do you think all that money in the markets comes from in the first place, money trees? Wealth ultimately comes from physical resources whether you like it or not.
"Here's a case in point, in the 1930's it was projected that there was roughly 20 billion barrels of oil in the U.S, since then we've pumped approximately 100 billion barrels of oil. As technology changed we could find and get to these reserves."
So the prediction was wrong. It still doesn't mean there is infniite oil out there and even if there was - there isn't infinite O2 in the atmosphere to burn it with. That total CAN be measured and its finite.
"Wealth can change and it's not directly related to a physical resource."
Way to go on proving that you haven't understood any of the points.
"Its that liberals believe there's finite amount of wealth to be had, and that's just not true."
Isn't it? And short of just printing money where does this infinite wealth come from then? Ultimately at the base of the pyramid that wealth comes from is natural resources. And there arn't any left there won't be any wealth. You can be the richest man in the world but if theres no oil to fuel your car or food to put in your stomach then that money means jack shit.
Well thats your tough luck for living in the arse end of nowhere. Here in europe I have literally hundreds of historic sites I can visit and a similar number of beaches in that 900KM radius. Sure, I'll fly if I need to cross the atlantic or whatnot, but why put myself through the stress if I can just jump in the car and get to my destination later in the day with my luggage not having moved from the boot? Plus there'll have been plenty of nice places to stop off on the way.
Bunch of useless egotistical idiots the lot of them. The know-nothings they hire seem to think they're gods gift because they work for this piss poor company , but most of them are clueless. Many a time I've had to sort out the mess they've created.
... it was called an ftp server then. If only I'd known then just what a cool technorati I was when typing "put" or "get" on a remote system.
As for using telnet , woah , I mean , being able to use another system As If You Were There! How cutting edge and amazing is that! (for 1988).
I can't wait for when the dribbling HTML 5 webwonks rediscover remote shell login and start dribbling how its "just like so totally ultimate clooowwwd , no, wait dude , not clooowwwd , thats like so 2012 , I mean its so totally out there just like.... Spaaaace, yeeeah, its In Space".
.... does the silicate come from? Will it have migrated all the way from the (presumably) rocky core through thousands of miles of gas or is it formed by some sort of reaction in the atmosphere?
Well fair enough, but I supopse there are different definitions of easy. It could be easy in the sense that its possible for almost anyone given enough time (like building your own house) , but not in the sense of you'll manage it in a week. Problem is I only had time when I was commuting to learn german from a book and some mp3's, its not like I had anyone to practice with 24/7 like you do when speaking japanese. There's only so far you can go with a language on your own. Beyond that , unless you live surrounded by the language on a daily basis you're stuck speaking it like a baby.
Is saying that Win95 was a lot better than Win3.1 such a radical stance to take? I wouldn't have thought the slashdot teenage groupthinkers would have had a stance on this in the first place , most them not even being born when 3.1 was around.
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Not to mention the small fact that the brits invented the jet engine but gave the design to the US for free for war costs (yes, the US charged the british for the some help in the war whereas the west germans got a nice free rebuild of their society at no cost)
... the car decides to download and install new firmware at the exact same time as Mick Mechanic pulls the battery or the main fuse out? A very VERY expensive brick?
"That is complete and utter BS."
man XOpenDisplay
Fscking idiot.
"A graphics stack that's fast enough to get 60 FPS scrolling on an embedded GPU"
If you want that sort of performance on a limited power device just write to the framebuffer directly. X doesn't have a monopoly on talking to the graphics hardware.
"That feature is not a requirement for the GUI in my car or boat."
Who gives a shit about your car or boat? We're talking about desktops and servers , not some mickey mouse Busybox system in your toyota.
"Wayland gives them a way to composite multiple OpenGL apps without the overhead and legacy crap of X."
If all you want is something that draws straight to the framebuffer then there's nothing stopping you doing it yourself.
"Try using X over even a decent broadband connection and prepare for agony"
I do it often , never had a problem. Hell , I even used to run xterms over a modem link FFS!
"he same application over to your cellphone or notebook without having to close & restart the application"
Not a problem if the application is written to support it. There's no limit to the number of X servers an app can link to at any given time.
"Why does NX even exist if X is already perfect???"
No one is claiming X is perfect - but why would I would to exchange something thats imperfect for something that apart from eye candy potential had very reduced functionality and is clearly broken from a network point of view.
I've never had any dependency issues other than open/libre office whining about some missing libs but I force installed it anyway and have never had a problem except with a few obscure powerpoint slides.
"If you're using openvpn, drop the configuration in /etc/openvpn and make sure the your certificate, your keyfile and you CA certificate are accessible for openvpn. (Me, I just dump them in /etc/openvpn/connectioname folders). Then adapt /etc/default/openvpn and set those you want to autostart. "
Yes, obviously thats so much easier than typing "ssh @"
"That said, you do need to install a few packages. Which ones shouldn't be hard to figure out."
Lifes too short. If my company want me to work from home they can do the donkey work.
I only use putty because the laptop doesn't come with eXceed or some other X installation so I can use an xterm.
Unlike most distros you get a non-fucked-about-with kernel the way Linus released it and its very very stable. Granted , its not very user friendly but if you have even moderate linux skills this really won't be an issue.
I have to take a Windows laptop home so I can use a VPN to start a putty session to log into a terminal to do unix system maintenance instead of just ssh'ing from my home linux box (yes , I know I can put VPN on linux but its hassle).
When I've asked why they can't just have an open ssh port they start waffling about security. I'm sorry , since when are VPNs more secure than ssh? Never, thats when. I'm sick and tired of know-nothing Windows admins running IT infrastructure.
After all, there are no pointers, buffer overruns arn't possible without an exception being thrown as managed code evangelists keep telling us old school C++ guys , so how can there possibly be an exploit?
Oh wait, whats that? If the VM has a bug you're screwed? Oh dear, that doesn't sound good. Still, I'm sure it can't be true. VMs are the answer to everything arn't they?
"If I have 1 stock Company XYZ that's valued at $10 dollars and it goes up $1 dollar, somewhere someone has lost $1 dollar?"
No one loses or gains anything until you sell it , then someone has to spend $11 instead of $10 to buy it. That extra $1 you made didn't appear out the ether. This really isn't rocket science FFS.
"nd can't seem to see that wealth is much more than that, case in point in 2009 approximately 45% of the 'wealth' generated in the U.S was monetary, ie. Stock Market investments"
The money markets don't generate any wealth - they simply move money around. Someone gains a lot of money through lots of people spending or losing it. Where do you think all that money in the markets comes from in the first place, money trees? Wealth ultimately comes from physical resources whether you like it or not.
"Here's a case in point, in the 1930's it was projected that there was roughly 20 billion barrels of oil in the U.S, since then we've pumped approximately 100 billion barrels of oil. As technology changed we could find and get to these reserves."
So the prediction was wrong. It still doesn't mean there is infniite oil out there and even if there was - there isn't infinite O2 in the atmosphere to burn it with. That total CAN be measured and its finite.
"Wealth can change and it's not directly related to a physical resource."
Way to go on proving that you haven't understood any of the points.
"Its that liberals believe there's finite amount of wealth to be had, and that's just not true."
Isn't it? And short of just printing money where does this infinite wealth come from then? Ultimately at the base of the pyramid that wealth comes from is natural resources. And there arn't any left there won't be any wealth. You can be the richest man in the world but if theres no oil to fuel your car or food to put in your stomach then that money means jack shit.
Well thats your tough luck for living in the arse end of nowhere. Here in europe I have literally
hundreds of historic sites I can visit and a similar number of beaches in that 900KM radius.
Sure, I'll fly if I need to cross the atlantic or whatnot, but why put myself through the stress
if I can just jump in the car and get to my destination later in the day with my luggage not
having moved from the boot? Plus there'll have been plenty of nice places to stop off on the
way.
Bunch of useless egotistical idiots the lot of them. The know-nothings they hire seem to think they're gods gift because they work for this piss poor company , but most of them are clueless. Many a time I've had to sort out the mess they've created.
... it was called an ftp server then. If only I'd known then just what a cool technorati I was when typing "put" or "get" on a remote system.
As for using telnet , woah , I mean , being able to use another system As If You Were There! How cutting edge and amazing is that! (for 1988).
I can't wait for when the dribbling HTML 5 webwonks rediscover remote shell login and start dribbling how its "just like so totally ultimate clooowwwd , no, wait dude , not clooowwwd , thats like so 2012 , I mean its so totally out there just like .... Spaaaace, yeeeah, its In Space".
Just wait 4 years for the next leap year.
Seriously , what clueless idiots at MS didn't take leap years into account when writing certificate code that used dates?
If you can disassemble it then who cares whether it was written in OO C , C++ or Logo? I don't see why it mattered so much. Just follow the assembler.
Or you could with 12 and 13 , not sure about current. A few irrelevant features stopped working but still ran happily.
.... does the silicate come from? Will it have migrated all the way from the (presumably) rocky core through thousands of miles of gas or is it formed by some sort of reaction in the atmosphere?
Well fair enough, but I supopse there are different definitions of easy. It could be easy in the sense that its possible for almost anyone given enough time (like building your own house) , but not in the sense of you'll manage it in a week. Problem is I only had time when I was commuting to learn german from a book and some mp3's, its not like I had anyone to practice with 24/7 like you do when speaking japanese. There's only so far you can go with a language on your own. Beyond that , unless you live surrounded by the language on a daily basis you're stuck speaking it like a baby.
Is saying that Win95 was a lot better than Win3.1 such a radical stance to take? I wouldn't have thought the slashdot teenage groupthinkers would have had a stance on this in the first place , most them not even being born when 3.1 was around.