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Ask Slashdot: Recommendations For Linux Telecommuting Tools?

First time accepted submitter rodrix79 writes "Hi all. I am trying to move from Windows to Linux (Ubuntu, but maybe to Mint). The problem is I telecommute full time and I am having a hard time trying to find the right tools to keep communication flowing with my clients (which are mostly on Windows / Mac). Any good recommendations from Linux telecommuters?"

212 comments

  1. Usual rule by Tim+Ward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (1) Decide what you're trying to do

    (2) Decide what application level software will do what you need

    (3) Use whatever platform (2) runs on

    I would not put my income at risk by playing silly games with the platform I use to earn my living. If I want to use something else for other purposes, then jolly good, I'll buy another box.

    1. Re:Usual rule by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      I have to agree. We are in an Employers market, we have been in one for a while.
      You use the platform they recommend, or you work from the office.

      Now the question is different if the company is exploring to offer telecommuting then you may be evaluating tools then you have more options.
      Skype, Is good, so is WebEx, WebEx give you more professional features.
      There are a slew of web based tools, most of them are OS independent.

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    2. Re:Usual rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Welcome to NuSlashdot. Where the most highly ranked post is as always a complete non answer. The OP asked a very specific question. He doesn't need you lecturing him on his workflow. And to all the jackasses that modded you up, you are the reason Slashdot sucks circa 2012.

    3. Re:Usual rule by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      (1) Decide what you're trying to do

      (2) Decide what application level software will do what you need

      (3) Use whatever platform (2) runs on

      I will also add Define what you mean. My first thought on reading TFS was that he was asking what the best remote control software was, for him trying to access multiple clients. He could mean that, or he could mean what other people are assuming: how best to communicate with the people he does business with. Two very different applications, with two very different answers: for the first, some variant of NX, PC Anywhere, etc., would do the trick. I like NX, because it works on everything and is pretty fast. It's also dead easy to set up... downside: it's one of the most expensive options for commercial use. For the second way to read the question, you basically just need a good multiprotocol IM client and working e-mail. If you want, add text messaging or BBM to the list. If a customer urgently needs to speak with you, they can always pick up the phone, too.

      And like you, I wouldn't suggest risking your income. If you need to use Windows to do your job, then buy a Windows box. Use it for work, and install Linux on a separate system (or even a multiboot) for personal use.

    4. Re:Usual rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? I found the original question very vague and buzzword-ish. There's no shortage of cross-platform communication tools out there. No one I 'telecommute' with on a daily basis seems to think twice about this, and there's plenty of Linux going on. If the OP isn't going to specify why the standard solutions don't work, then his non-question deserves a non-answer.

    5. Re:Usual rule by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I worked at very large shipping company and recently moved to a very small company... both have/are using WebEx and conference bridges for pretty much every meeting.

      I've only ever used Skype to talk to my one friend who refuses to use Teamspeak/Ventrilo while gaming because he doesn't know how to change the codec and he thinks they both sound terrible. I've personally never seen Skype used in business.

      As far as remote connections into PCs, there are various methods for connecting to RDP/VPN/and VNC that are fully supported in Linux.

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    6. Re:Usual rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your face deserves a non answer.

    7. Re:Usual rule by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 2
      Completely Agree.
      OP:
      • What is your *job*? (sysadmin, secretary, manager, etc)
      • What do you need to have to *do* that job?
      • What does your *company* use already? (skype, sip, google-chat, etc)
      • What infrastructure does your company already have in place? (VPN, external IMAP/SMTP, SSH, RDP, etc)
      • What have you already tried?
      • Why were those tools insufficient?
    8. Re:Usual rule by Skadet · · Score: 1

      > I've personally never seen Skype used in business.
      I've personally seen it at AAA, eBay, PayPal, and a handful of startups.

    9. Re:Usual rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God, are there any non-pathetic fucks left on this site?

    10. Re:Usual rule by anonum · · Score: 1

      Oh and again some more of this shilling bullshit.

    11. Re:Usual rule by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? My income has never been "at risk" from telling others we don't support Microsoft Windows. All its done is boosted our sales. The same is true for telecommuters. If you can't think up an excuse and blame the party responsible (Microsoft, Adobe, etc) then you have bigger issues. Users of Microsoft Windows are more frequently at a loss income wise from down time and similar. Just look at viruses alone. No. There is an advantage to "playing silly games" and you aren't getting it clearly.

    12. Re:Usual rule by 91degrees · · Score: 0

      But the question is stupid. It's identifying the wrong problem.

      This is something I encounter all the time. A customer has a problem and ask for a solution. I can accept and provide the solution they ask for, or I can discuss what the problem is and suggest a better solution to their problem. In my experience, customers seem to be quite happy when I give them what they need rather than what they thought they want.

    13. Re:Usual rule by RandomAdam · · Score: 1

      TL:DR version ~ Ubuntu 10.04 + VM for winXP = epic

      I use Ubuntu 10.04.4_64 every day, I have 8 VM's in virtual box OSE running XP for all my windows based needs.

      MS Office runs well under wine and I use it most days, I also have libre office for use when I don't have to send my documents to MS based people.

      The only reason not to use a VM for windows and have linux as your host to if you are doing heavy grahics work, though someone may be able to tell you (me) how to get pci-e pass through so that my VM's can see the graphics card.

      I have been running this setup for about 18 months, with no serrious issues, there was one time when I was playing around and corrupted my graphics driver and had to do a quick reinstall as I didn't really have time to look for a fix on for my work machine. The beauty of this with VM's is that you store them either in your /home/USER/... directory or a seperate partition entirely and a reinstall doesn't touch them.

      I could on about the benifits of using VM's for all knids of reasons, but that an entire topic on its own.

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  2. Skype by Johnny+Mister · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Sorry, but for business things you really do have to use Skype. It is what everyone uses, so you just have to go with it. That is cold hard truth. If you want UNIX OS, then just use Mac. I do and love it.

    1. Re:Skype by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And using Skype on Linux is a problem because.... ?

    2. Re:Skype by systematical · · Score: 3, Informative

      Skype runs on Ubuntu and not through wine. They actually have a .deb package for it and probably for other distributions as well. For other things though, yeah you might have to stick with windows or at least run a VM.

    3. Re:Skype by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Informative

      Skype works just fine on Linux. I use it daily, yes, even for voice and video.

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    4. Re:Skype by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Sorry, but for business things you really do have to use Skype."

      Where? Everywhere I look I see businesses using Cisco, Tandberg and Polycom video conferencing and that means real H323 protocols and software. Of which there is NOTHING for linux.

      The good thing is a old Tandberg Edge95 or Polycom SD unit is dirt cheap on ebay.

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    5. Re:Skype by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      There's a Linux client for Skype, although I've hit various issues with it's sound handling in the past. I think that's largely fixed in Ubuntu 11.10.

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    6. Re:Skype by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 3, Informative

      Codeweavers' Crossover (http://www.codeweavers.com) product is a beefed up Wine and they allow a 2 week trial. Very reasonably priced.

      You can install Windows software and run it without having to have a VM or a Windows license. It works great for a lot of Windows apps they don't specifically list on their website but they also list apps they have tested and know specifically will run.

      I use it for a number of Windows applications where I don't have to boot up to a now very old version of XP on an old hard drive. I just installed the apps in "bottles" under Linux and then just run them whenever I want to.

    7. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it creashes occasionally, leaving it in a state where it looks like it's working but it is actually offline.

      Well, that's what it does to me. YMMV.

    8. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      oh, and if you conference in multiple people it sounds like mickey mouse being hit in the balls, repeatedly.

      Again, YMMV.

    9. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skype on Linux is not as good, I also telecommute and first to install it, i had to enable multilib repositories (Skype requires some x86 only packages)
      then just by having skype running, it uses lots of CPU and RAM (for an idle application), and when I share my screen, daamn CPU shoots way up and my laptop gets up to 60 C.

      I tried using but it requires wine and although the screen sharing is better has given me lots of problems, it crashes and freezes suddenly etc.

    10. Re:Skype by Shikaku · · Score: 5, Informative

      So SIP isn't supported on Linux? Really? I'm sure Ekiga works as well as loads of others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SIP_software#Free_and_open_source_license_2

    11. Re:Skype by 680x0 · · Score: 1

      Everywhere I look I see businesses using Cisco, Tandberg and Polycom video conferencing and that means real H323 protocols and software. Of which there is NOTHING for linux.

      Have you tried Ekiga (formerly GnomeMeeting)?

    12. Re:Skype by TemporalBeing · · Score: 3, Informative

      And using Skype on Linux is a problem because.... ?

      It's unsupported, well out of date, and very problematic.

      I often try to chat with people via Skype; only to get one or two chats through and then have it stop sending/receiving chats. I'm still supposedly on-line; but it's not working.

      And its functionally broken when trying to find the microphone under Linux; so voice calls are nearly impossible - they work sometimes, but most of the time they don't. I gave up on it.

      Interestingly, this lack of support and updates started about the time Microsoft started its acquisition of the company, vowing to keep Linux support active - that support has basically been "here's a beta version that 2+ years old, use it if you like".

      Is there anything else Skype is good for?

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    13. Re:Skype by Danathar · · Score: 2

      wrong. Go to www.ciscojabbervideo.com.

      Standards based, and free to use or if an enterprise wants to deploy it they can buy their own authentication infrastructure. The ability to call a traditional SIP or h.323 based VTC unit directly without some goofy transcoding high cost solution like blujeans.com is gold.

    14. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What fucknut modded this down? Lumpy is right, skype is not used in companies. Not for meetings.

    15. Re:Skype by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      What loads of others are you thinking of? Just because it supports SIP does not mean it supports Video calls over SIP.

      I've been down this road a lot, the company I work for is a Tandberg/Cisco VC dealer and we constantly are being asked about Linux clients. I have yet to find ONE that supports all of the functions. Like sending Pan/Tilt/Zoom to the far end camera. Ekiga works for simple static calls, at least an older version did. I have not tried it in the past year as surplus gear on ebay delivers a better conference experience.

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    16. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Twinkle as a SIP client for accessing conference calls. I use VMWare View for accessing a VDI desktop. I use a myriad of devtools, mail clients, browsers and all kinds of other toys on my Sony Vaio. I replaced Windows with Linux Mint 12 on it within 30 minutes of taking delivery, and I have no regrets.

    17. Re:Skype by dokc · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because it creashes occasionally, leaving it in a state where it looks like it's working but it is actually offline.

      Well, that's what it does to me. YMMV.

      My Skype crashes occationally under Windows too.

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    18. Re:Skype by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Google Voice?

    19. Re:Skype by bobbozzo · · Score: 2

      Some of our contractors in Poland sound like Donald Duck.
      I'm not sure if it's Skype's fault or not.

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    20. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh good it wasnt just me thinking that then.

      Usually it is that and/or ms communicator. Seen a few lotus communicators but not much. Usually MS.

    21. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you should be using SSH for remote communications duh!

      Isn't Linux all text based and stuff? SSH and ytalk ought to be enough for everyone.

    22. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Stop using Gentoo. Seriously, building your libraries on the fly for 3rd party applicatons is guaranteed to cause precisely this kind of problem, and Gentoo is the worst of the bunch right now for this problem. Skype works well on Ubuntu (due to Debian's quality control and Ubuntu's willingness to clean away the unmnecessary driftwood), Red Hat (server class stability) and Mandriva. (Debian by itself is too prone to people hand-preserving out of date debris for bad reasons: Skype is vulnerable to it.)

      Telecommuting is more of an issue with the VPN. IPsec gets technologies, but blows my granny's left testicle trying to get the undocumented and very poor user interfaces and trillions of *WRONG* setup directions working, and the interactive clients blows my granny's other testicle. PPTP, while it has potential technical issues, is so much more graceful to manage that you're much less likely to do stupid things like send the private keys in email or leave your account permanently unlocked, and your Wndows clients work more robustly with it.

      For X access, throw VNC *out*. It's slow, awkward, and has a horrible "passwords stored locally and poorly" security model. Use NX from www.nomachine.com, which is a much more robust, graphically effective, and vastly more secure X toolkit.

    23. Re:Skype by Kagetsuki · · Score: 4, Informative

      When did you last use Skype in Linux? About a year ago I had the issue you mention but now it runs fine for me (Ubuntu 11.10 x64). I'm using the version that's in the repositories - perhaps the Ubuntu team tweaked it? I've never had the ball beaten mickey mouse issues you mention below though.

    24. Re:Skype by Kagetsuki · · Score: 1

      Skype runs fine under Linux, no need for a Mac.

    25. Re:Skype by Kagetsuki · · Score: 1

      Uh, yes it is. Many many companies use it, including my own and all of our partners. I've closed large deals entirely over Skype as well. Just because it's not an important tool in your own corporate ecosystem doesn't mean it's not in others.

      Now if by "not for meetings" you mean where a bunch of people in suits sit around tables with a funny looking over-priced teleconferencing unit so a bunch of people in suits sitting around a table in another location with a compatible funny looking over-priced teleconferencing unit can speak to eachother then yeah, I've never seen Skype used in a situation like that.

    26. Re:Skype by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Video calls over SIP is hardly standardized. Every other manufacturer (especially Tandberg/Cisco) has proprietary codecs or don't follow the standards in them.

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    27. Re:Skype by ryanov · · Score: 2

      I have literally never had a problem. I don't use Skype much, but it has worked every time.

    28. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Never crashed on Mac, to my knowledge at least. /Macfanboy

    29. Re:Skype by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Doesn't Movi run on Linux ?

    30. Re:Skype by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Cisco uses a lot of non-standard variations, as does Apple, but Tandberg follows the standards, especially in their infrastucture products which can interop with dozens of different manufacturers.

    31. Re:Skype by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      They do use the H323 standard and the signaling standard. I touch this gear daily, How about you? do you have ANY real experience with Video conference gear?

      In fact Cisco phone can be put into a SIP mode with a cisco SIP firmware. This is how Asterisk users can use Cisco phones on their systems.

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    32. Re:Skype by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      Bullshit - name a useful feature lacking in Skype 2.2.0.25

      A useful feature missing in Skype 2.2.0.25: It only works with the system's default input/output devices. Too bad if you want sounds coming out of your speakers and just leave your comms headset sitting on the desk until you need it (as I do with the Windows version).

    33. Re:Skype by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      It kind of works. Movi still needs a lot of work to get to the point where it's stable enough to make it through a 2 hour conference.

      The one trick I used for one client that has a AV tech wing. they have 4 skype call in machines for the Linux users in china. Those machines are connected to a Tricaster that inputs to a tandberg HD unit in the building. all 4 of the skype callers call in, the AV tech then sets up the quad view on the tricaster and sets audio, and then calls into the conference upstairs. the AV guy then listens to the audio and will bring a skype fullscreen if the CEO asks for it.

      Not a good solution, but it makes the CEO happy. I would prefer a native client that works well.

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    34. Re:Skype by ccanucs · · Score: 1

      Skype is one of the tools we absolutely don't use for business on a regular basis - and all of the group I presently work with telecommute and have done for years. We work far more with IM and teleconferences and email. Skype seems to us far too resource-heavy for daily use esp. if left running "just in case". And, yes, I have used it on Linux, Android, WebOS and Windoze. If we do feel like we need a face-to-face communication, we'll IM one another to start it up for the 5 mins it takes to talk that way.

      As for other tools:

      Konsole, vi, emacs, ssh, pidgin, firefox, Openoffice / Libreoffice, thunderbird, VPN, cvs, DBDesigner, PostgreSQL, pgadmin among others...

      Been using Linux for work for the last 19 years, and telecommuting or otherwise working out of a home office on and off for most of that period.

      Avoid the cloud like the plague.

      Kind regards.

      W.

    35. Re:Skype by ccanucs · · Score: 1

      Oh, yes, forgot, vmware - been using that since v1. When you *need* to do something else, don't let it take over. Virtualize. W.

    36. Re:Skype by fdisk-o · · Score: 1

      Exactly. It's just not a problem any longer. I use Skype on 2 systems, Ubuntu 10.04 and Mint 12 all day long for business. I use the version from Skype's download page. Very rarely, if I have flashplayer running (e.g. Pandora in firefox) Skype will consume all available memory on the system before being killed off automatically. Otherwise, I have zero problems with it, including voice quality, video, shared desktop, files, etc. With ongoing excellent support and development of LibreOffice and Thunderbird, I'll never need to go back to window$ for my work environment. If I am asked to use some pre-compiled MS binary, Wine is better than ever and in increasingly rare occasions I use an XP VM. It's amusing that at our business it's the MS users that do the cursing at their machines, while the Linux users have it easy.

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    37. Re:Skype by vandamme · · Score: 1

      It's a turd. They never cared about Linux, even before their new Microsoft overlords. It works on my laptop fine, but on my 2 machines at work the video doesn't work, even though Cheese shows the video pipes through /dev/video0 and the capture card shows up in Skype. Go to skype tech support and ask for help with a Linux problem, get dead silence.

    38. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nothing about it has been "fixed" in a long time. the last upadate was the "new" 2.2 beta, which came out this time last year, and it reinstated a bug that had been there previously, meaning i have to use a workaround just to get it to recognise my camera.

    39. Re:Skype by BigLonn · · Score: 1

      Yesterday and had 3 people online with video and it worked fine, the problem with Skype Linux and windows is you sound like Mickey Mouse being hammered with a bat in the crotch when you don't have enough memory and horse power under the hood. When I upgraded to a 4 core all my linux/skype woes went bye bye also all the glitches you get on Linux side are all featured on the windows side as well.

    40. Re:Skype by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Because it's crap, that's why.

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    41. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop using Gentoo. Seriously, building your libraries on the fly for 3rd party applicatons is guaranteed to cause precisely this kind of problem, and Gentoo is the worst of the bunch right now for this problem. Skype works well on Ubuntu (due to Debian's quality control and Ubuntu's willingness to clean away the unmnecessary driftwood), Red Hat (server class stability) and Mandriva. (Debian by itself is too prone to people hand-preserving out of date debris for bad reasons: Skype is vulnerable to it.)

      I primarily use Skype under Kubuntu and its flaky as hell there.

    42. Re:Skype by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use this for work every day and prefer it over the windows version, it's much easier to use.

  3. What tools do you already have? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In all honesty... an IM program, an email program, and a web browser. Without saying what tools you're looking to replace, I really don't know where to go with this one.

  4. Recommendations for Linux Telecommuting Tools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can use Teamviewer.

  5. Can you be more specific? by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can you be more specific? Like telling us what doensn't work? All major chat protocols work, email works, browsers work, OpenVPN works (others may work too). There are good terminal services clients. So, apart from the "I can't have Microsoft Office", what -pray tell us- doens't work.

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    1. Re:Can you be more specific? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And you *can* have Microsoft Office in a VM.

      As a matter of fact, if the real problems are only on the edges then using Virtualbox is probably one of the directions to look. I do admin work is a split environment and it works well for me. Most of the time it's turned off but when I have to do an Active Directory change I have a saved-state windows instance ready to go.

    2. Re:Can you be more specific? by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You don't even need a VM to run Microsoft Office. I've been running it in Linux with Codeweavers' Crossover and it works fine.

    3. Re:Can you be more specific? by Nemesisghost · · Score: 1

      Not all terminal services work in Linux. There are authentication and other protocols that M$ uses that aren't always available in Linux. Or like most other Linux interfaces to M$ products, there's a lag between what's required by M$ and what's available in Linux. And given how M$ likes to randomly change things on us, you could easily find yourself out in the cold if you can't upgrade as fast as your work. This is what happened to a coworker & I when we tried to use primarily Linux at home(he still does). Unlike him, I had Windows licenses I could use to build legit VMs when I needed to remote into work. For a while it was the only thing we could do.

    4. Re:Can you be more specific? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention you can always use RDP to connect with the server. Just a tip here: of you are havin trouble connecting with SSL terminal services FreeRDP can do it. Last time I've checked rdesktop was not compatible with ssl.

    5. Re:Can you be more specific? by ulzeraj · · Score: 1

      FreeRDP supports encrypted RDP connections including the strong crypto and FIPS features.

    6. Re:Can you be more specific? by rodrix79 · · Score: 1

      Skype is buggy and consumes lots of CPU. I haven't been able to make Teamviewer work. Alternatives to those 2 have been hard to find.

    7. Re:Can you be more specific? by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 0

      Your server uses RDP? Go get a real server.

    8. Re:Can you be more specific? by spire3661 · · Score: 0

      Your comment makes a snide remark about microsoft? Go get a real joke.

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    9. Re:Can you be more specific? by Eggplant62 · · Score: 1

      Can you specify which protocols that MS uses that "aren't always available in Linux?" Y'know, Kerberos works just fine, so does SMB and RDP and any other protocol you want to throw at it. Admit it -- the command line frightens you and you haven't the stones to figure out wine or virtualbox. This is this the typical bullshit FUD that Windows nimrods toss around in order to keep their customers sucking on the MS tit.

    10. Re:Can you be more specific? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GotoMeeting runs better for me in VirtualBox than if I run it on dedicated hardware. IE on VirtualBox also works well for me.

    11. Re:Can you be more specific? by baileydau · · Score: 1

      Skype is buggy and consumes lots of CPU.
      I haven't been able to make Teamviewer work.
      Alternatives to those 2 have been hard to find.

      I've never had any issues with either.

      I use Teamviewer all the time. It Just Works (TM) Both version 6 and 7. I can't imagine what you're doing wrong. It really was a trivial exercise to download / install and run.

      Similarly Skype Just Works (TM) I've never noticed any issues with CPU usage.

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    12. Re:Can you be more specific? by loufoque · · Score: 1

      It actually works fine with just Wine.

    13. Re:Can you be more specific? by deragon · · Score: 1

      I believe you need a VM if you are running the latest version 2010 as most of the applications are only rated bronze. And as far as I can tell, you cannot purchase an older version as is it no more available.

      http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=7437;details=1

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    14. Re:Can you be more specific? by Nemesisghost · · Score: 1

      I never looked into it really. All I knew was that my coworker was unable to use the OSS RDP clients available in Linux, so when I needed to remote in I just setup a VM & used that. Never had much problem with it. I'm not afraid of the command line, I prefer it in most cases. I was just too damn lazy to go & spend hours of my life trying find out how to get something to work, only to have limited abilities, when I can simply run a VM and call it done. And as the company I work for is a M$ shop(except for a few thing), if I want help getting things setup from my system admins, I have to use M$.

      But I do believe it was the TS Gateway authentication that at the time was unavailable. I think it's now called RD Gateway. Since I no longer need to dual purpose my desktop as a server, I've put Win7 back on it & no longer worry about whether my RDP client will connect to my work PC. So I've not kept up with what doesn't work.

    15. Re:Can you be more specific? by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      We purchase Office 2010 which has downgrade rights for Office 2007.

  6. Citrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Citrix (Make life easy).

  7. The Usual Suspects by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2
    KISS: Keep it simple, stupid (quoting, not insulting!)
    • Email.
      A private forum if applicable. (I'm trying to nudge my main client in that direction, they have multiple outlets who don't communicate with each other much)
    • Twitter/Facebook if your customers are into social media (mine are, Twitter is very handy for very quick support jobs).
    • Phone. Android if you want to vaguely stick with the Linux thing in every way.

    If you're trying to remote into a company LAN or VNC things then your main block is company IT policy rather than Linux capabilities, but if you're looking at standard communication tools then browser choice is sometimes more important than OS choice.

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    1. Re:The Usual Suspects by Kultiras · · Score: 1

      If you're trying to remote into a company LAN or VNC things then your main block is company IT policy rather than Linux capabilities

      Your main block for remote access to a company's internal network is more likely to be the vendor's operating system support, not company IT policy. The two VPNs I manage both support Windows, Macs, and Linux with (mostly) the same code. Unfortuantely that means it's Java based, and it has been very problematic because of that. On people's personal Linux installs, a combination of not following instructions and the version of Java they're running virtually guarantees that it won't work for them the first few times, if ever. In the case of Apple, every time they touch something in Safari or Java it screws up the applet in some way, requiring a reinstall of the program or waiting on a client patch for the VPN. The Windows version certainly isn't perfect either, but the issues there are known and easily fixable.

  8. Wrong question by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I generally hate it when people don't answer the "real" question posted to an online forum, so for starters: Jabber and rdesktop, and at every turn, promote the use of Google's online collaboration tools if they don't already use them heavily (they actually don't suck, but I wouldn't run a company depending on Google to say non-evil).

    That said, you have asked the wrong question. You need to start with "I make my living serving people using X but don't want to use X, should I drink the Xool-ade or risk losing my shirt?"

    And if you don't already know the answer to that question, we can't help you.

    1. Re:Wrong question by DrgnDancer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even more to the point I don't know that we can answer the question as asked. There's no standard answer to "what do I need to telecommute?" What do you do? What tools are commonly used by your employer(s)? Do you need voice or video chat? If so, what kind? Skype is easy, but Polycomms don't work with it. What do you do? If your job is "develop .NET applications", it's going to be really hard to just switch to Linux. Does your company use Exchange? Is there an OWA server available so you can hook it up to a non-Outlook client? If not is there POP or IMAP (not as good as OWA which can forward contacts, calendar, etc)? Do you use any proprietary Windows only tools? Do you have to use IE to get to certain internal web sites? What VPN solution does your company use? Is there a Linux client? My company is standardized on Office Communicator, I'm not aware of any other IM system that can hook up to our internal OC servers, that could be a huge problem with telecommuting.

      I mean... Telecommuting can be as simple as "I need a phone, a VPN client, an e-mail client, and a terminal to SSH in with" or as complex as "I need a full suite of proprietary in house Windows tools, Visual Studios, and Outlook or I can't do my job". I could telecommute for a day or two with nearly any computer using any OS. Eventually I'd need at least a VM with a domain connected Windows OS or I'd be unable to do a lot of communication, internal paperwork, documentation, etc.

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    2. Re:Wrong question by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

      In fairness, OP's question is remarkably vague. The question boils down to "What are good communications tools for Linux?" Well, that depends on what you mean, and what you need. If you need to pass files back and forth and send fully formed comments, email. If you need to voice conference... a phone. If you need video conference, Skype or Google Hangouts. If you need text-based back-and-forth, any IM client. If you need Microsoft Office editing, Google Docs, Open Office, or Office in Crossover. If you need VPN, OpenVPN or "vpnc" to talk to Cisco VPN gateways.

      There's just so many things which could be meant by "communications," and in traditional requirements document format, a question is posed that seems entirely reasonable to the asker, but completely fails to describe any problem that should or could be solved.

    3. Re:Wrong question by QuantumRiff · · Score: 1

      I have never ran it, but I have friends that have:
      http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/

      Adds OCS to pidgin.. :)

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    4. Re:Wrong question by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that. Definitely something to try out.

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    5. Re:Wrong question by hobarrera · · Score: 1

      Pidgin can hook up to an OC server, there's a plugin for it (not bundled with pidgin though, download it separately).
      I remember using it about a year ago, inside a very very large corp that used OC.

    6. Re:Wrong question by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Zblockquote> Does your company use Exchange? Is there an OWA server available so you can hook it up to a non-Outlook client? I

      Evolution no longer needs OWA. There's a native MAPI connector. You need something newer than Rhel5.x though (or a hell of a lot of coding work to backport it).

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  9. What exactly do you need? by dejanc · · Score: 3, Informative

    In my case, telecommuting requires some readily available tools, such as openvpn or git/svn. For my softphone needs, I use Ekiga. For instant messaging, there is Pidgin. For screen sharing, I had excellent experience with Teamviewer. For email, anything from Thunderbird to Mutt. But really, I never had any particular issues regarding communication on Linux. Linux may be lacking in other categories of software, but it really shines in communication department.

  10. Plantronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently Plantronics has some decent equippment for Telecommuters according to Slashdot. I dunno. Personally I think plantronics sux

  11. Use a Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tell yourself it's based on BSD and that's kinda close to linux. I've long ago given up on using linux as a desktop/laptop. Run a Mac, be happy and put a linux virtual machine on your mac for the hardcore geeky stuff. Best of both worlds, IMHO.

    1. Re:Use a Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is that you, CmdrTaco?

      Tell yourself it's based on BSD and that's kinda close to linux. I've long ago given up on using linux as a desktop/laptop. Run a Mac, be happy and put a linux virtual machine on your mac for the hardcore geeky stuff. Best of both worlds, IMHO.

    2. Re:Use a Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehehe, no. Sorry for anonymous, I forgot my password and rarely post. Love linux on the server, but decided screw it, I'm going Mac on the laptop and haven't looked back.

    3. Re:Use a Mac by loufoque · · Score: 1

      That would be a good idea if Mac OS X weren't essentially a way to turn a computer into a brick. It's nothing like Linux and makes your computer unusable for anything else than web browsing.

    4. Re:Use a Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha. I use a Mac for scientific computing, and have for 8 years. Far from being a brick.

  12. What is the problem? by TheSimkin · · Score: 1

    What problems are you having? I telecomute a lot on linux. i use NXserver/NXclient to connect to remote desktops. VNC and RDP to connect to client machines. Skype to do video chat etc. I have no problems... what is the problem you are having?

    1. Re:What is the problem? by rodrix79 · · Score: 1

      Skype is buggy and consumes too much CPU. Teamviewer is not connecting. Question: Is there any software which allows screen sharing and switch sides (switch the side which is showing its screen)?

  13. Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Viol8 · · Score: 1

    I have to take a Windows laptop home so I can use a VPN to start a putty session to log into a terminal to do unix system maintenance instead of just ssh'ing from my home linux box (yes , I know I can put VPN on linux but its hassle).

    When I've asked why they can't just have an open ssh port they start waffling about security. I'm sorry , since when are VPNs more secure than ssh? Never, thats when. I'm sick and tired of know-nothing Windows admins running IT infrastructure.

    1. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Just an FYI. There is a linux version of putty. It looks almost identical to the windows version.

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    2. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      I only use putty because the laptop doesn't come with eXceed or some other X installation so I can use an xterm.

    3. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually....I lucked out. I installed our linux image, but couldn't get VPN working, so I build a VM with the older linux image, got VPN working, then realized....I now had 2 machines...and could work inside the VPN on one, and outside it on the other...with separation (the only communication between them is a shared drop folder)

      This is huge because we have to VPN even from the office and the VPN is SLLOOOOW. So... its good to be able to browse the web while waiting to see if the last thing that I did worked or not.

    4. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem a little lazy.

    5. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by jawtheshark · · Score: 2

      I'm trying to figure out what exactly the hassle is with VPNs on linux. If you're using openvpn, drop the configuration in /etc/openvpn and make sure the your certificate, your keyfile and you CA certificate are accessible for openvpn. (Me, I just dump them in /etc/openvpn/connectioname folders). Then adapt /etc/default/openvpn and set those you want to autostart.

      Alternatively, under Ubuntu you can configure it graphically, but I haven't found a way to have more than one VPN active.

      That said, you do need to install a few packages. Which ones shouldn't be hard to figure out.

      I partially agree with "just use ssh", but do keep in mind there are much more bots that try to attack ssh ports with typical user/password combos than there are bots that attack VPNs. At least to my knowledge.

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    6. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by QuantumRiff · · Score: 1

      Cisco VPN
      sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc
      or
      sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn

      they both work as an easy replacement in ubuntu to connect. It adds the features to network-manager.
      Very easy way for me to connect to my Cisco SSL and IPSec VPN's.

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    7. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      OTOH, a VPN and an open ssh port is less secure then either one on it's own. I agree, it's a very small difference, but I can see where they are coming from.

      VPN is, conversely, much more of a pleasure on Linux than it is on Windows. The Windows VPN client will only route my packets over the VPN, locking me out of my local machines, printer, and my spiffy 30Mbit/s network connection. Linux was easy to set up with the right network-manager plugin (YMMV), and routes my packets the way I want it to, so I get the best of both worlds. I'm looking forward to the upcoming Ubuntu release which doesn't even route DNS over your VPN unless it's for a machine on the office network.

    8. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by DrgnDancer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Security is a valid concern. The VPN is another layer of security. Let's say there's a zero day vulnerability in ssh. That's OK, you have to be on the inside of the corporate network to ssh into the server, so there's a layer of security there. Let's say there's a zero day vulnerability in the VPN system. That's where the security of ssh comes in. Why expose an extra potential vulnerability vector to the outside world? The VPN external interface already HAS to be exposed and can get you what you need from there.

      For my more sensitive systems I actually have to get through three layers of password to get into root. Login to the VPN to get on the network, provide the password for my ssh key to get into the box, then provide either my own password (through sudo, my password is different than my ssh key password) or roots password (through su) to get to root. All three passwords are different, so that if one gets compromised somehow, you still need the other two.

      Sure shh is secure. That doesn't mean you should rely exclusively on that security if you can avoid it.

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    9. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      "If you're using openvpn, drop the configuration in /etc/openvpn and make sure the your certificate, your keyfile and you CA certificate are accessible for openvpn. (Me, I just dump them in /etc/openvpn/connectioname folders). Then adapt /etc/default/openvpn and set those you want to autostart. "

      Yes, obviously thats so much easier than typing "ssh @"

      "That said, you do need to install a few packages. Which ones shouldn't be hard to figure out."

      Lifes too short. If my company want me to work from home they can do the donkey work.

    10. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by megalomaniacs4u · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Slap you vpn admin until he sets up split-tunnelling properly if your vpn locks out your lan.

      I use a cisco asa based vpn and with split tunnelling turned on at the host i can still use my lan while vpn is connected.

      You just must have a different subnets for the local & remote.

    11. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm a full fan of simply using ssh with keys and all. SSH-tunneling for the win, I use it all the time. What I just wanted to say is that setting up a VPN is a pain once, then you're done and you connect as if the resources were local.

      My experience is that most companies don't want you to telecommute. I could do 95% of my work from home, but they insist on me being local. Besides, I'm the one who does the donkey work and if you worked at my company you wouldn't have had to configure the VPN in the first place as I'd have done it.

      I'd say, your issue is with your workplace, not with VPNs.

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    12. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Kultiras · · Score: 1

      Some of us are subject to regulatory compliance and/or PCI-DSS. Accessing anything on my internal network from outside without two-factor authentication that is logged is a sure way to fail many kinds of external audits.

      Requiring the use of a VPN defines the single point of entry into your network. That's one point to monitor, secure, and administrate; not one for every server you want access to over the public Internet.

    13. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by hawguy · · Score: 2

      I have to take a Windows laptop home so I can use a VPN to start a putty session to log into a terminal to do unix system maintenance instead of just ssh'ing from my home linux box (yes , I know I can put VPN on linux but its hassle).

      When I've asked why they can't just have an open ssh port they start waffling about security. I'm sorry , since when are VPNs more secure than ssh? Never, thats when. I'm sick and tired of know-nothing Windows admins running IT infrastructure.

      Sounds like IT supports a VPN server for all of its corporate users. One of them (you) says that a VPN is too hard for him to set up, so you want IT to set up a dedicated machine just for you that runs SSH and provides access into the secure network. And they have to keep that machine patched and updated. And integrate it with their IDS. And configure it to authenticate against Active Directory. Can they use access lists on this SSH server to restrict what resources different groups of VPN users can access (i.e. a user from accounting might only be able to reach the web interface on their financial reporting server, while an IT user might have more access to the network)?

      I'm sorry , since when are VPNs more secure than ssh?

      Every port opened to the world adds risk, so the fewer services that are exposed to the outside world, the lower the risk. If there's a one in a million chance of a critcal vulnerability in the VPN and SSH server, if I publish both services, then suddenly I have a 2 in a million chance of a critcal vulnerability being exposed to the world -- it's always better to limit risk by reducing services exposed to the world.

      I'm sick and tired of know-nothing Windows admins running IT infrastructure

      IT Admins are sick and tired of know-it-all Linux users that don't understand everything that we are mandated to do behind the scenes to meet various regulatory requirements in providing a secure network.

    14. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what he is really saying is that he doesn't know how... ;-)

    15. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      If your corporate SSH server accepts usernames and passwords, somebody is doing it wrong.

    16. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      When I saw your post, I thought, it couldn't be that much "Easy Button style" easy now, is it? I really don't have a need or use for VPN, butI did the Fedora equivalent:

      sudo yum install NetworkManager-vpnc NetworkManager-openvpn

      They were already installed, so I clicked the little networking icon, which I never really need to do since once I configured networking at install time, it just works, and there it was, VPN connections, click that and you can add/configure to your hearts content in a GUI. How wonderful.

    17. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only use putty because the laptop doesn't come with eXceed or some other X installation so I can use an xterm.

      Install Cygwin . I use it on all my windows boxen. Full X support, Openssh, several shells (including bash, tcsh, pdksh and zsh), Perl scripts run unmodified (assuming the appropriate perlmods are installed) on it. The full GCC suite plus gmake, gdb, etc, etc, etc are available. If you have to run Windows, Cygwin is the way to go IMHO.

    18. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by kk6ho · · Score: 1

      Install Cygwin, it will give you much of the features of eXceed for free, including an Xserver, a local xterm client to connect to your Linux box, and ssh.

    19. Re:Companies are obsessed with VPNs by Skadet · · Score: 1

      "X is a pain once, then you're done"

      That could be said about almost anything.

  14. Avoid Ubuntu by msobkow · · Score: 2

    I run Ubuntu. I like Ubuntu.

    But I won't install it again, because there are bugs introduced in the Ubuntu patches which are not an issue with the base Debian build.

    So come the next box, I'll be trying different distros again.

    I'm rather disappointed to report that every major distro has let me down on updates and patches over the years. I really have to question the value of a "maintenance service" if the maintenance introduces bugs instead of fixing them. (RedHat, Mandrake, SuSe, and now Ubuntu have all done this at one time or other.)

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    1. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      http://archlinux.org/

      I gave up on Ubuntu really early (9.04) but I moved to Arch and haven't looked back since. Give it a try, but don't expect it to hold your hand.

    2. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I really have to question the value of a "maintenance service" if the maintenance introduces bugs instead of fixing them. (RedHat, Mandrake, SuSe, and now Ubuntu have all done this at one time or other.)

      So has Microsoft and probably Apple as well. Things slip through. It is the nature of the beast. The question is how long do bugs remain unfixed.

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    3. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you should go back to using Windows because Microsoft never allow something like this to happen.

    4. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      I'm rather disappointed to report that every major distro has let me down on updates and patches over the years. I really have to question the value of a "maintenance service" if the maintenance introduces bugs instead of fixing them. (RedHat, Mandrake, SuSe, and now Ubuntu have all done this at one time or other.)

      Debian did it too with openssl.
      http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571

      Luciano Bello discovered that the random number generator in Debian's openssl package is predictable. This is caused by an incorrect Debian-specific change to the openssl package (CVE-2008-0166). As a result, cryptographic key material may be guessable.

    5. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you tried Mint? It's based on Ubuntu, but without the headaches.

    6. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by evol262 · · Score: 2

      9.04 is not early for Ubuntu, and Arch has much problems with needing to keep up on every hairbrained thing the Arch developers are doing instead of it just working. Update and Pacman is using GPG all of a sudden, locking you out of everything? To the forums with you. Readline updates, but everything you're using from the AUR is still linked against the old version (that they just removed)? To the forums with you. Awesome3 changed its configuration again? Forums. Etc. If you want to work instead of tinker, Arch is about as awesome a choice as Gentoo.

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    7. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows is no different.

      Can't tell you how many compaints I've got because MS decided to remove a vital feature or VBS function through a security patch instead of fixing the darned issue.

    8. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by msobkow · · Score: 1

      In the case of the mouse problems I've found with every single system I've tried to install a post Ubuntu 10.04.1 system on -- the bug has been around for over a year. Well over a year.

      The symptom is simple: If you install 10.04.2 or later, the mouse will randomly stop working, regardless of which desktop you run. Near as I can tell, it's a more pervasive problem with USB wireless devices that can report on their battery life, but it's also been an issue with an Acer laptop trackpad.

      I'm actually surprised no one else has reported the problem, because it's a problem on every system I've installed newer releases on. At first I thought it was just my old Logitech Trackball being dropped from the supported/recognized hardware list, but since then I've realized it affects other devices as well, so it's not just my main system's device that's an issue.

      I also had the same problem installing on an older Compaq-branded laptop. WIthin five minutes the trackpad stopped working.

      Oddly enough, a physically wired "standard" mouse has never caused a problem on any system I've installed. Only wireless and trackpad devices. And as I mentioned, the problem does not surface with a pure Debian 6 install-and-update, so it's something that was introduced by Canonical themselves.

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    9. Re:Avoid Ubuntu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've used various brands of wireless mice with Ubuntu 8.10 - 11.04 and Xubuntu 11.10 with no issues at all.

      Sounds like you're doing something wrong, buddy.

  15. VM to the rescue by Tassach · · Score: 1

    Either windows in a VM running on Linux or vice-versa. For real work (coding) you have Linux; for everything else you use Windows. It works especially well if you have a multi-monitor setup.

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  16. Been telecommuting for 7 years by DougDot · · Score: 2
    My employer is on the east coast, I am in Santa Fe, NM. I'm currently running Linux Mint 12, with Windows XP as a VirtualBox guest for the Windows-centric activities. All bases are covered.

    --Doug

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  17. Teamviewer, Skype, VM by insidious777 · · Score: 1

    You might check out Teamviewer, and Skype for Linux is in beta.

    Also, I'd recommend running a Windows VM. Often you might need to use your client's tools (like GoToMeeting, etc). Having access to these and being flexible for their needs makes them much more likely to get the warm fuzzies that keep them as clients.

    1. Re:Teamviewer, Skype, VM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skype for Linux has been in beta for about five years now. Kind of a goddamn joke if you ask me.

    2. Re:Teamviewer, Skype, VM by couchslug · · Score: 1

      It's near effortless to run Windows VMs, and I keep several Snapshots so I can revert if I wish.

      The best way to run Windows apps on Linux is run Windows in a VM.

      It's free, it's simple, it's more convenient in many ways than a conventional Windows install (just keep the install .isos and apps and updates in a folder on your PC).

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  18. If Windows works, why change? by Wee · · Score: 1

    If your clients work on Windows and you can best interact with them using that OS, then use that OS.

    I've been working via a Linux desktop nearly every day since the mid-90's and even now I have an old laptop with Windows XP on it. Because every once in a while, a client issue will require me to fire it up. And sometimes the boss wants me to edit a Visio doc. Or whatever. In those cases, it's the right tool for the job. For day-to-day dev work, I'll be staring at XFCE and xterms and whatnot.

    Use whatever allows you to work best.

    -B

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    1. Re:If Windows works, why change? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      > If your clients work on Windows and you can best interact with them using that OS, then use that OS.

      It depends.

      On the other hand, desktop machines are now powerful enough that you can run multiple virtualized copies of Windows and not break a sweat. If you get to choose your own hardware and manage your own environment, you will probably even be more productive.

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  19. Answer: Skype by hellop2 · · Score: 0

    Now, was that so hard?

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  20. VirtualBox + Windows by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even if its not your primary means.... and believe me, I am a hardcore linux guy whose used linux on his desktop, even while working at VERY windows centric shops that didn't entirely approve. The key is to have windows available, either as a machine you can RDP or as a VM (preferable).

    95% of things, you can find a fine Linux based alternative.... but every once in a while someone is gonna send you a non-xml visio or maybe you have to talk to an exchange server (I never had luck with the linux tools.... even when I got them to work).

    As I type this, my work laptop is, in fact, setting up a windows VM for this purpose. At my previous job, we had both desktops and laptops, so i just did nearly everything on my laptop, which ran Ubuntu, and would just rdp control my desktop for reading email and filling out timesheets (which required IE)

    Personally, I would love to ditch windows completely...but I need it for steam anyway (my only non-work use for windows), and while I don't mind spending half a day getting a new free software alternative running... few people have the patients to wait for me to do it on their time.... so, I have windows for those times, and just take everything I have to do in windows as something to add to my "upgrade to linux" punch list.

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    1. Re:VirtualBox + Windows by bbbaldie · · Score: 1

      Agreed. My last job required a Windows-based VPN that killed all other TCP connections. What a perfect place to use Linux as my base OS! My Windows Virtual machine was happily walled off, my Linux machine was still free to do anything else I wanted.

    2. Re:VirtualBox + Windows by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

      VirtualBox is great for software, but if there's any piece of specialized hardware you need, it may be problematic or impossible. i.e. I needed to add a mouse to my Logitech unifying reciever. From the Linux side, I was able to assign the reciever to the Windows XP client, run the Logitech software and register the hardware. Then things locked up until I futzed around and shutdown the VM. Once I restarted the VM, everything worked great.

      VirtualBox doesn't (or didn't) support Firewire which might be a problem for Mac work. Perhaps VirtualBox running on a Mac OSX box with VMs for Linux and Windows.

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    3. Re:VirtualBox + Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy should be modded +5 interesting, he's dead on here.

    4. Re:VirtualBox + Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      very true:
      I run Ubuntu on the desktop, then have a Windows VM which I use to VPN into the corporate infrastructure (The supplied (required) VPN software suite needs windows), from there I remote to various systems, Windows, Linux, VM, real iron (soon will be hard to find one). Works great - although I'd recommend as many monitors as you can get. And sometimes remembering exactly where you are at when you want to move a file from one system to another....

    5. Re:VirtualBox + Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my line of work I sometimes have clients that use Windows specific software such as SharePoint, MS Project and Visio. AFAIK, SharePoint won't run properly in a non-IE browser although there might be plugins for Chrome or Firefox to handle that. I have never found a good alternative to either Visio or MS Project for the Mac or Linux. Then there are a slew of homegrown IE apps to deal with. My MacBook Pro will handle 98% of these situations but I always have a Windows VM handy just in case. Remote access is a breeze using a combination of VPN and RDP (interestingly the free Microsoft RDP client for Mac is one of the best bits of software they make - super fast and never crashes).

      I love Linux and I've been using it on and off for about 10 years. It just seems that eventually I run into something that won't work properly in a Windows environment and I run out of time or just can't figure it out. So I end up back with Windows. The best solution - for me - is OSX. I can run all the Windows stuff either natively (MS Office for Mac) or through a VM. And I can use all of the cool Linux software (Adium, Gimp, etc.) natively on the Mac. It's the best of all worlds.

  21. Get an Android Tablet by na1led · · Score: 1

    I have an HP Touchpad with ICS installed on it, has everything I need for commuting. I use Itap RDP to remote into computers and servers, the mail client works great, even supports exchange. Other tools I use; VPN, Skype, and Facebook. A tablet is the perfect tool on the go.

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  22. Try Slackware by Viol8 · · Score: 2

    Unlike most distros you get a non-fucked-about-with kernel the way Linus released it and its very very stable. Granted , its not very user friendly but if you have even moderate linux skills this really won't be an issue.

    1. Re:Try Slackware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hey look guys its 1998. How are you going man?

    2. Re:Try Slackware by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Life is too short to manually deal with dependencies, thanks.

      Seriously, that's the #1 thing that will keep me away from Slack. It seems pretty solid otherwise.

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    3. Re:Try Slackware by Viol8 · · Score: 1

      I've never had any dependency issues other than open/libre office whining about some missing libs but I force installed it anyway and have never had a problem except with a few obscure powerpoint slides.

  23. What do they use? by Roadmaster · · Score: 1

    Most people in my organization telecommute, and we mostly use Google+ hangouts (with extras) whenever we need some face time with people elsewhere. It's worked well for us, but it has some limitations and it *is* controlled by a third party. We also use Google's Docs and Calendar tools heavily, so Google hangouts were a natural evolution. This works well in Linux and in both Firefox and Chrome.

    That is on a technical level; in reality you are the one who needs to adapt. If you can dictate a solution, the one I propose is not bad. But you may have little choice because it's easier to change *you* than the rest of the organization if need be.

  24. Unclear what the problem is by nine-times · · Score: 1

    It's hard to tell what you're looking for here. I'm not sure what would be considered a "telecommuting tool" or what kinds of communications you want to have with your clients. For example, it seems to me that a telephone would work well even if you didn't have a computer at all. Email works fine on Linux.

    So let's start here: What are you used to doing on Windows that you're now having trouble doing on Linux? Is it an issue of trading documents, and you're not able to read some specific document format? Or are you trying to do video conferencing, and you haven't been able to find a good video chat client?

    From the summary alone, I have no idea what the problem is.

    1. Re:Unclear what the problem is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gotta say I agree. I use Skype daily to voice and screen-share with people using Mac and Linux. I suppose it works on Windows too. When that fails, we've used join.me for screen-sharing, and there's always phone and email too. And Dropbox is great for files. "I can't find a tool that does X reliably" is one thing, but "I am having a hard time trying to find the right tools to keep communication flowing with my clients"... Seriously? There's no shortage of great tools out there.

    2. Re:Unclear what the problem is by rodrix79 · · Score: 1

      I need two things here: 1) screen sharing with no the fly control / master screen switch (ala Teamviewer) 2) Reliable voice calls (ala Skype). Thanks in advance :)

    3. Re:Unclear what the problem is by baileydau · · Score: 1

      I need two things here: 1) screen sharing with no the fly control / master screen switch (ala Teamviewer) 2) Reliable voice calls (ala Skype). Thanks in advance :)

      Well both Teamviewer and Skype work fine under Linux.

      I use them both with no issues.

      If that's all you want, you should be pretty right.

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  25. Troll-like typing detected by Wee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can you be more specific? Like telling us what doensn't work?

    Having already posted a reply, I have a gut feeling this submission is in some way trollish. No specifics, vague notions of "telecommuting" (do people even use that word?), and management-buzzword phrases like "hard time trying to find the right tools to keep communication flowing with my clients". Really? IM, email, online doc sharing, VOIP, video chat, Libre Office (or even MS Office in Wine)... shit even old-school ftp drop boxes: none of those will work in keeping communication "flowing"?

    I get the feeling the submitter is looking to say, "See? Even Slashdot -- largely regarded as Nerd Central -- can't think of ways Linux can provide the tools and services necessary to serve the business-ready needs of today's modern telecommuting professional". Or some such reverse-astroturfing thing.

    It could also be that the submitter isn't a technical person. But the submission smells funny.

    -B

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    1. Re:Troll-like typing detected by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      I think you're spot on.....

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  26. Three machines by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 1

    Use all three on three separate machines and get a KVM switch to choose the most appropriate at the time. Some form of NAS would help.
    Alternately, you could try to use one piece of hardware and VMs.

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  27. Here is how I handled it by LyingDown · · Score: 1

    I have been doing this for 12 years. For the first 10 years I alternated between using Linux (which at times made it very difficult to interact with Windows clients) and using Windows, with all its attendant problems.

    Here is what I have been doing for the past two years: A Ubuntu desktop system with multiple Windows virtual machines, using VirtualBox.

    From the Linux system I can do most of my desktop work; PPTP VPN into customers and our other offices; RDP into Windows Servers; ssh into Linux systems; and LogMeIn into Windows desktops.

    From the Windows VM I can run MS Outlook (when your organization runs Outlook you can make life VERY hard for yourself by using any other email client) and I use Cisco VPN and Cisco AnyConnect when necessary. I know there is a Cisco VPN client for Linux but I never got it working smoothly. As far as I know there is not an AnyConnect client.

    When it comes to document compatibility, I can use MS Office in the Windows VM, or OOo in Linux -- they seem to interoperate very smoothly. But when needed I can run Visio or PowerPoint in MS Office.

    The part I love best about this solution is the stability and restorability. I have multiple Windows VMs. One is my "real" work environment, so I back it up carefully (it's just a file!) and I don't install any suspect software. Another VM is a sandbox for when I need to load some software with a big footprint, or something I may not keep. I also have VMs for Windows Server, Windows development, etc. Limited only by the size of my disk.

    Oh the other best part: many of those Cisco VPN connections force all of your network traffic through their tunnel. That can be fatal to productivity. So fire up a Windows VM and VPN from there. Your "real" desktop system is not affected -- you can still email, IM, surf porn, whatever.

    1. Re:Here is how I handled it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As far as I know there is not an AnyConnect client.

      cf. Cisco AnyConnect For Multiple Platforms

    2. Re:Here is how I handled it by cowtamer · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up -- as the first one to actually answer the question!

      (As opposed to berating the OP for asking the question, as is traditional)

  28. Easy fix... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Well, a couple of things.

    Who in this day in age (and I'm talking about someone on slashdot that asks a question about telecommuting)....cannot afford more than one computer?

    Have one for linux..have one for windows.

    Hell, what about running VMs? Have windows running on your linux box.....hell, get a mac, and run linux and windows on vms...and have the best of all 3x worlds.

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    1. Re:Easy fix... by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

      I think that defeats the point of moving to Linux entirely.

      With virtualization, is there a point to that? I stopped worrying/caring about having a full blown Linux machine/laptop a long time ago thanks to virtualization. Unless one has very specific needs, a Mac or Windows machine running one or more vms with Linux at it is typically acceptable for development. Anything beyond that (again, barring actual tech needs), that's just ideology.

      But then again, freetards aren't exactly known for logical thinking.

      And logical thinking dictates to chose pragmatism over emotion, specially when it comes to technology.

    2. Re:Easy fix... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a tech site such as this, who in their right mind would recommend having two entirely different computers?

      Dual-boot. I have two hard drives... one Linux, one Windows. On bootup, I choose which OS I want to be in, depending on if I want the programs that only run in Windows (and WINE has been less than successful with... the programs being GSAK, or Audiosurf in Steam), and Linux for anything else. It's a bit of a pain to boot from one to the other, but for the once a week that I use GSAK, and once in a random while I want to play Audiosurf, that's not much of a hassle.

    3. Re:Easy fix... by slo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or do the reverse and run Windows in a VM where necessary.

    4. Re:Easy fix... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or run on linux and run windows and os x in a VM if you want all three.

    5. Re:Easy fix... by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 1

      Because who would ever need to do Linux stuff and Windows stuff simultaneously?

      I can't tell if you're joking or not about the dual-boot suggestion. I have been working from home for about 15 years now, and I couldn't get half my job done with that kind of a setup. I use the Linux box for everything possible (read: anything I have a choice about) and the Windows box, supplied by my Microsoft-dependent employer, for everything they require Microsoft applications -- Outlook for email *sigh*, Visual Studio for development *sigh* and the like. I can't VPN into their servers from my Linux box because the IT dudes only allow access from the computer they sent me.

      I'd like to say that I am at least able to do all my document writing in Libre Office, but I finally had to give that up after one too many compatibility issues -- it looks great in Libre, prints fine for me, then when I send it to a colleague the formatting is all screwed up in MS Office. So, yeah, I *could* dual-boot 25 times a day as I switch between web development, office email, documentation, and personal activity (read: slashdot)... but I'd rather burn the extra electricity than waste all that time waiting for the desktop to reload.

    6. Re:Easy fix... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand how a Mac host is the best of any world, but to each their own.

    7. Re:Easy fix... by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      An easier solution: use a KVM switch: one desktop that you can swap from a Windows box to a Linux box instantaneously, with the tap of a hot key (typically Fn-Break). I have been doing this for a couple of years, between my business computer (mostly spreadsheets and journaling) and my graphics computer (set up for fast rendering and not terribly stable, especially when I am exploring the very latest new shiny). While I am currently running versions of Ubuntu on both right now, I had no problem with Ubuntu on the graphics monster and WinXP on the meek business machine.

      But I learned long ago not to get out the rototiller when granddaddy's old hoe would weed the row faster and easier. Dual booting has its place, but sometimes a KVM makes life easier.

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    8. Re:Easy fix... by lloydchristmas759 · · Score: 1

      Or use Synergy. I've been using it for about 2 years not and it works great. The best part is the ability to use copy-paste from one computer to the other.

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    9. Re:Easy fix... by RiffRaff06078 · · Score: 1

      Everyone's needs are different, but between WINE, PlayOnLinux, and a single VM running Windows XP, I successfully switched to Linux over five years ago, and haven't looked back since. Started with Ubuntu, but have been using Mint for the past couple of years. VPN, RDP, VNC, IM, Skype calls, E-Mail, website administration, etc. all from a single dual-core laptop running Mint 10 and XP in a VM. In fact, I've found that what I use the VM for more than anything else is watching Netflix at home and disinfecting other Windows systems. I learned that the easiest way to make the switch to Linux from Windows is to just do it, and prepare yourself for lots of research when you hit a snag of some sort. I start with, "Can I do what I need to do in Linux natively?" Once I exhaust that option, I move on to, "Can I do what I need to do using WINE/PlayOnLinux?" Once I've exhausted that option, I move on to my last resort of using my XP VM to do what I need to do.

    10. Re:Easy fix... by abloylas · · Score: 1

      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........

      On the other hand, when you see them express themselves in writing, that's when you can get really worried...

  29. What are you using now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I re-read the question, but I didn't see any where the poster said what they were using on Windows to keep in touch. Chances are Linux has the software you need, or in a pinch, you can use CrossOver/Wine to run the Windows apps. But to answer this question first we need to know what it is the poster does. Do they need Citrix, remote desktop, VoIP, video chat?

  30. I would just say.... by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

    Don't. If everybody you're dealing with it using Windows or Mac, then follow suit. If you want to use Linux, then do it on personal time... as somebody else said, I wouldn't jeopardize my income by switching platforms "just because".

    And since I'm sure to get flamed by all the Linux advocates... let me pose this question. Let's say you're working in a Linux or a Mac shop, including Linux-only apps, and somebody comes in and decides they want to use Windows... you'd probably not want to accommodate them.

    I'm all for Linux and rooting for underdogs and all that good stuff... but, if you need somebody who can put 100lb widgets on a shelf that's 6 feet high, and the underdog is 4'5" and sickly and weak, he just can't do the job, no matter how supportive you are.

  31. Chatroom and wiki by thaig · · Score: 1

    Chatrooms are quick and people often end up helping each other thus saving you the trouble. I find them much better than forums or email for my most common communication. I set up one with ejabberd but you could use jabber.org or jwchat.org. There is even a browser based chat client so that your customers don't have to install anything: http://blog.jwchat.org/jwchat/

      You can also log everything and when a user connects they get to see what happened recently instead of entering blind.

    Wikis are convenient for typing up documentation and answers that you don't want to have to give again - they make it easy enough that you actually do it instead of putting it off.

    Make sure you go and meet people in person every so often - makes all the tools work better.

    Install several web browsers (at least Chrome and Firefox) - it's amazing how much that helps when trying to deal with some odd company web page.

    rdesktop is obviously wonderful.

    If you must have a windows machine, make it virtual - so convenient IMHO and you can snapshot the disk and move it from one computer to another and all sorts of useful things.

    Twinkle is not a bad VOIP solution though old and it worked in my company where ekiga didn't really so it's worth trying.

    Install a webcam at the remote locations if you can (we did this in our office) so that you can see who's there and who isn't when you are remote - very nice and gives one a sense of connection.

    Sorry for the randomness of all that :-) Just what I thought as I thought it.

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  32. VMware by MattW · · Score: 1

    Get VMware Workstation. Run a Windows VM in your Linux box, or vice versa. I'm on a Mac using VMware Fusion, but I do things in word and excel all the time and have a SuSE box (don't ask!) open right now for some dev work. It's honestly BETTER, for me as a develop, than an all-in-one environment, because the operating systems in VMs-as-containers means I don't run into application specific configuration or dependency hell. And, if need be, I can push a whole dev environment up into a service provider as a running host.

  33. A few options to do this by Sepiraph · · Score: 1
    You have a few options:

    1) Keep your work computer at work to run windows and set it up as a ssh server, then use vnc type of program to remotely ssh back to your computer from home. This is probably one of the simplest way as long as your company network team allows you to do this. This is fairly easy to setup.

    2) Run windows at home inside a VM machine as others have suggested. This is much more involved as option #1 since you will have to set up everything from scratch AND you have to install all programs that was needed at work. Probably not very doable.

    3) If your company has a VDI environment set up, then you can actually use something like Citrix receiver to directly login to your windows computer at work, which will work better than option #1. But this option is only restricted to those company that already has VDI so probably not applicable to that many people. (The company that I work for does this and I login to windows directly in Ubuntu, works great).

    4) If all 3 above options do not apply, then consider just get a laptop from work (most people already get work laptop) and setup a VPN client so you can work from work (again check with network team but most company allows this type of setup), and if you still want Linux you can always use a KVM program like Synergy so you can run windows and Ubuntu side-by-side.

  34. VM seems like the obvious way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the stuff for which you don't have an immediately workable alternative in linux, use in a Windows VM. Nice thing about making the Windows virtual, rather than the Linux, is that when your customers send you malware by accident, you can just say, "Oh, yes?"

    Or maybe you don't have those issues in the business world. It's been a lifesaver for me because every semester there are at least a couple of students who get hacked/infected/malwared and everybody on their contact lists gets the "benefit."

  35. VMware by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you're using it for, but if you want to do anything on any OS, you could go with VMware. It's not cheap but you can emulate just about any modern OS on it. You can either have it totally sandboxed (for testing or security) or you can allow it to share data between OS's. One of the problems I've had with Duel booting or just having multiple systems is getting data from one to the other easily. VMware lets you just cut and paste from a window running windows to a window running mac or linux.

    It definitely has it's downsides (price mainly) but its good for tech support for sure. The customer has trouble with your software and has it installed on Windows95... What??! Are you really going to keep a PC sitting around with a Win95 install on it?

    Anyway, just an idea.

  36. Everything but Exchange by ARos · · Score: 1

    I use Fedora 16 and VPN into the office using PPTP. Aside from being required to use Office/Exchange (for which I use Winblows 2000 - the last Microsoft CD I own - on top of VirtualBox), virtually all of my needs are met with Fedora's distribution. If there are stupid ActiveX webapps or Java applets that weren't written with Linux in mind, then I might have to use Windows for that reason too. Life is a lot better for Linux desktop users now than it has been in the past. More enterprise vendors offer OS-agnostic web interfaces instead of desktop applications. Regrettably, many of them are starting to value their in-house and web 2.0 documentation more and are guarding them within an authentication wall. This causes problems when you'd like to use search engines to find answers to common problems. Meh.

  37. ssh -X by WarJolt · · Score: 2

    ssh -X gives you all the gui you need on linux. You can even use cygwin as a client. Mac osx comes with a xserver client that automatically launches when that command is run.

  38. only piece of commuting software I need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sl

  39. VMware or Virtualbox by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

    A VM is your answer. If not, then dual boot. In the worst case, buy two computers. If all you are short of is videoconferencing software, try Google Voice. I've heard the linux version works well. I Skype my folks from linux...It works well for that because I'm using only 2-way video and voice. You can't video conference with more than two and there are other issues as well, compliments of Microsoft, who has not updated the linux software in a long time.

  40. Remote Desktop - TeamViewer by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

    Looking for remote desktop similar to and as easy as PCAnywhere - Team Viewer is about the only way to go, works on Mac/Linux/Windows and does quite a decent job of it.

    Run a Windows App remotely, GoGlobal works fot that. Though the printing and file systems are kinda sucky.

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  41. What do you mean by "communication"? by swillden · · Score: 0

    Your question isn't very clear. I'm going to assume that by "communication" you mean "talking to people". If that's the case, the answer really is old technology plus attitude, approach and effort. What tools do your clients use to communicate with each other (besides face to face)? Most likely the answer is telephone, e-mail, and exchange of documents. Maybe they also use some sort of IM client. You should do that -- talk on the phone, exchange e-mails and IMs, and read and write documents, and do all of it about twice as much as you feel you should have to, because not being there in person hurts your ability to communicate normally with them.

    If you do want to add some cooler technology to make that work better, there are some options. You can replace (or augment) phone calls with video conferences. I work for Google, so we obviously do pretty much all remote conferencing via Google+ Hangouts, and it works really well. It's also extremely easy for people to install and run on their own machines, provides a shared whiteboard, screen sharing and shared document viewing/editing and runs on Windows, Mac and Linux (and Android, and ChromeOS, and maybe others, dunno). There are good remote collaborative document editing tools, too. Google Docs works very well, and I'm sure there are other options as well.

    But if what you're asking about is communicating with people, the tech won't do nearly as much for you as just making a committed effort to overcommunicate. When your clients begin telling you that you really don't need to communicate with them quite so much, then you know you've got it about right. If it seems like putting this much effort into communication will make you less effective at actually getting stuff done, well, you're right. It's part of the cost of telecommuting.

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  42. Phone, and E-mail? Maybe chat? by Aguazul2 · · Score: 1

    The basics for communicating are: Phone, E-mail and Chat. Linux can do these. You forgot to say what work you do, though.

    I use a hardware VoIP box (Linksys) for international communications so that I can use a real phone, offlineimap to keep IMAP fast enough to use, and ssh with port-forwarding instead of a VPN. (Create a local IP address on device 'lo' for each machine on the remote net, add the names to /etc/hosts, and then connect local <=> remote IPs with the same port number on the ssh command-line. You'll have to stop Apache/sshd/etc listening on those fake local IP addresses, though, but at least this way you can connect to N remote http or ssh servers each on port 80/22 of their own dedicated IP address, without having to remap anything locally at connect time.)

  43. What is your job title? by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    I think a lot of the recommendations are going to depend upon what you do for a living. Are you a Systems Administrator or Engineer, a Software Engineer, or remote tech support? I can't provide any recommendations without knowing what your job function really is.

  44. Flaimbait by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    How is using Linux for telecommute any different than using it on a local network? It's not. Whatever works there (everything except for native Windows software) will work with telecommuting. It's one of those latent benefits of having a standardized networking stack.

    So tell me, how often do you beat your wife?

    (Aside from running Outlook or using a Microsoft graphical console, I haven't had a need for Windows or a Mac in the past two years - and I have to deal with Linux, Windows, and Macs on a daily basis for support and management. For that I've used vbox.)

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  45. Have you considered ... by oz_paulb · · Score: 2

    ... a Plantronics solution?

  46. It's no problem at all by Turmoyl · · Score: 2

    I've been telecommuting on and off for several years now. It's such a non-issue that I had to think aobut what I should write here.

    Between OpenSwan, the Cisco AnyConnect VPN client, and my current employer offering Citrix-hosted services, there's nothing I cannot do from home. You don't need a phone system that ties into your employer's as long as you can forward calls from that system to your cellular, or home phone (if you still have one).

    I haven't used M$ Office in over a decade, and I haven't missed it at all. Only twice in 12 years have I run into document formatting issues, but both were easily solved by exporting/importing via a different filter. I even get by with LibreOffice for my college assignments (in fact, a few of my professors prefer the Open Document format).

    Tying into email should be a snap. You have your choice of clients for POP3 and IMAP connections, Evolution for Exchange integration, and a native Linux client for Lotus Notes.

    I have run into a few issues with my current employer being super single-sign-on happy, not realizing that when this is done in IIS/AD that it negates the ability for Kerberos-based authentication for everybody else, but I've found that I can use my virtual desktop in Citrix on the rare occasion I need to access one of those sites.

    Contrary to needing Windows in the enterprise or for telecommuting, I cannot think of a single good reason to use it.

  47. "telecommuting" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously people use that word -- you recognized it just fine.

    And I fail to see how this could be a troll looking to say "See? Even Slashdot -- largely regarded as Nerd Central -- can't think of ways", since it's an open invitation to spell out the ways, for both the poster and anyone else who is curious.

    And yeah-chessypoofs the submitter may not be a technical person. Have you ever gone through UbuntuForums? Linux is /very/ popular with non-technical people.

    It's 2012 -- you don't need to be a computer geek to run Linux anymore. Haven't for years. We got all sorts now. We've even got people who don't sneer at newcomers for being new.

  48. Think long and hard - and ask yourself a question. by jimicus · · Score: 2

    Are you using Linux because you love Linux? Or because you hate Windows?

    Because it sounds like you're very close to treating it as a religion. Admittedly I've been there myself - and I'd say that there's damn-all in terms of vaguely usable Linux desktop VPN clients and diabolical commercial support. It's fine if you're looking to get two servers with a very specific configuration working; terrible if you want to connect a single Linux desktop to a commercial VPN system.

    Ironic, considering the number of firewall products that are Linux-based. But there you go.

  49. Linux Telecommuting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been telecommuting aka working from home 100% for over 3 and half years. To keep in touch I use Gmail / Google Voice and Skype as a sort of second line.
    I have in the past even run an asterisk server and used Ekiga and the whole host of other SIP tools as clients.

    I have used Linux in enterprise environments for nearly 13 years using a combination of virtualization and equivalent tools to do my work. In the beginning I used VMware workstation (starting in 1999 with the 1.0 release) now I use KVM.

    I tend to favor RedHat based solutions as their features seam more enterprise driven and is closer to my needs in such an environment. I use RDESKTOP for remoting into windoze systems and ssh for UNIX and other linux. I have even utilized XRDP for remoting into linux boxes with the RDP protocol.

    I have found that the only things I really need my windows VM for is when the application is web based ans only runs from internet explorer.

    I must add that my shop is mostly UNIX /Linux but there is a fair amount of windows. The question is a bit vague but I for one stand as an example of using Linux in the enterprise from work from home scenario.

    Linux opens up alot of possibilities to the remote worker such as the aformentioned asterisk server (I used ELASTIX.) I have not had issues with web based audio video services such as skype and gvoice.

  50. Any distro + remmina by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

    rdp into your workstation in the office & use whatever os & apps everyone else at yuor office does.

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  51. Gobby by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

    Gobby is not perfect and has some editing issues but it's excellent for pair programming or at least to conduct source reviews.

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  52. well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm telecommuting full time. Got two servers, two laptops, two mobile telephones and two workstations, running:

    Servers: Linux / Windows
    Workstations: Linux / Windows
    Laptops. OSX / Linux / Windows
    Phones: Android / iOS

    Then I got virtual machines for pretty much anything you can image, just in case.

  53. Don't swim against the current by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Use Linux for your work locally if you want, but use Windows or Mac tools when the client uses them.

    I don't understand the "communication" issue. Email, telephone, and web conferencing are OS agnostic. You need to handle Word, Excel, Visio, and probably MS Project documents though.

  54. well, YMMV by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    Or do the reverse and run Windows in a VM where necessary.

    True, but I do find it more convenient to do the reverse, specially when running the latest hardware. I had run into problems with Linux on certain combinations of AMD64 laptops and wireless modems and routers. Once it was virtually impossible to get a laptop to connect to a wireless router using WPA/PSK authentication and TKIP for encryption (there was a requirement to be like that.) So at that point I was "screw it". I simply could not be fighting these edge cases (specially when I'm under the gun with a pressing issue.)

    Now I have a setup of different computers running XP and Vista as hosts with several Linux VMs (each configured with a given stack and tools depending on the job) and cygwin and mingw for good measure. I have an old but still capable PowerPC with Linux on it, but I haven't turned on in two years as I haven't had a need to run Linux as the host OS.

    It all depends on the situation so YMMV.

    1. Re:well, YMMV by StuartHankins · · Score: 1

      Another option is to use a Mac with Windows / Linux VM's. That's what I do, YMMV and all that.

    2. Re:well, YMMV by nobodie · · Score: 1

      YMMV, agreed. At my work I was in one building with an IT admin who only knew windows, so I "had to" run fedora in a VM. Now I am in a building with a linux geek as admin so i can run fedora with win7 in a vm. Truthfully, the same computer in both buildings (spec-wise anyway) and the fedora with win7 vm is much faster for everything

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  55. Some great ideas! by stevenfuzz · · Score: 1

    Recently Linux has come out with some amazing tools, quite similar to what you see on Windows: Email. Instant Messenger. Web Browser. VOIP. Some advanced stuff here. I'm not sure you will be able to find any of these things in linux. If you get confused try the mouse input device next to you and click on "icons" that say things like "Firefox" or "Skype". Seriously dude?

  56. Re:Think long and hard - and ask yourself a questi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or are you just one of the assholes that starts hating something after 4 people say they like it.

    --Jamie

  57. Have Ubuntu will Telecommute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been telecommuting for over a decade (I even co-authored a book about it) and using Ubuntu (LTS releases: Dapper, Hardy, Lucid) most of that time. The organisation I work for has Microsoft desktops (Vista, Win7, IE8, OutLook 2010, Office 2007) and Linux servers (RHEL & CentOS).

    For my development work VMs have been a blessing. I use VMware but am fairly agnostic about the VM vendor.

    For access to the corporate LAN I use vpnc with split tunnelling.

    I use Firefox and Thunderbird - the latter works with corporate's MSX so I don't need OutLook. I synchronize my OutLook calendar with my Google Calendar which I can access in Thunderbird.

    I recently switched to LibreOffice (from OpenOffice) and compatibility with MS formats is much improved.

    When I do need Windows I fall back to using it in a VM.

    I can also recommend Hamster as an excellent Task tracking tool.

  58. a few ideas by miles+zarathustra · · Score: 1

    Webex works better than skype for most of what we do. Seeing the other people isn't as valuable as being able to present a desktop, in my experience. Get a headset.

    If your remote desktop is Linux, you'll want xWin32. You can't effectively run KDE without it (that I know of), and Gnome works better with it. Unfortunately, it's not free. If you're willing to suffer with Gnome, you can use VNC, but it's buggy.

    Not sure how well webex works in Linux, but you can run both W7 and Linux on the same box using virtual machines, as many have pointed out. I recommend VMWare, as it seems a tad more stable than Virtual Box. "VMWare Player" (that's what you want, which is tricky to determine from their confusing product page) is free for Windoze and Linux, but I think it's $$ for the Mac. At least, one of my colleagues reported having to pay for it. I don't run a Mac, but I run WXP, W7, SuSE, Mint, and Ubuntu net remix.

    We have a VPN ... I regard that as essential. You can fake it with ssh, but it's clumsy.

    Hope this helps. Good luck!

        -= miles =-

  59. Running a business for 6 years, pure GNU/Linux by tuxisthefuture · · Score: 1

    I have had no problems keeping in contact with clients both in the office and when offsite. We run our own Postfix email server, Apache web server, iptables firewall router, Asterisk telecommunications server and all desktops are Gentoo Linux. When in the office I just use OpenOffice.org for spreadsheets and documents and save in .doc or better still .pdf if they are bound for people out of the office. Email is all handled client side by Mozilla Thuderbird. Need access to apps in the office when on the road? I just have iptables rules to allow connections using VNC to my internal systems. Or better still I just pipe and forward the X apps straight to be over a secure SSH connection to my Gentoo Linux laptop, or my Apple Macbook which I recently thought i'd try. When out and about all business calls are automatically forwarded from the office Asterisk system to my mobile or whatever mobile or land line I designate as my temporary office. The Internet is build on non Microsoft technology, you don't get hindered by stepping away from it, a few home truths just need to be discovered - pipe your Microsoft Office suite across the net directly without VNC and have access to your office file systems? Yeah right! On Linux it does away with having to set up VPNs and all that gumpf for me. So convenient.

  60. Don't Bother with Desktop Linux by mcnazar · · Score: 1

    Don't Bother. Honestly. Linux, although marvellous on the server, is just not ready yet for the desktop.

    This is a long winded response. Please bear with me as I give you some background.

    I was first bitten by the computing bug in 1984 when I discovered my uncle's Atari 800 and Xenon, which at the time came on a cassette. I've been programming full time since 1988 on successive platforms starting from the Atari ST (1988) and moving up to PCs in 1993, web in 2001 and mobile just a few of years ago. I am adept at least half a dozen computer languages. I custom build all my computing hardware. Basically, I think I know PCs, computing and operating systems pretty well by now.

    My last OS was XP, which I kept squeaky clean, fast and efficient. I had that XP install running for six years and it recently got corrupted when one of my memory modules went sour about a month ago.

    I took this opportunity change my OS. As much as I loved my XP install, it had several limitations:

    1. Microsoft's decision to nerf proper 36bit PAE mode since Windows 2000, artificially limiting the OS to 4GB (minus graphic card memory) was starting to really hurt; mainly because I use virtual machines to do all my development, having dozens of these for various clients and development platforms. ~3GB memory was becoming a pain as I could only load a handful of VMs at any one time.

    2. Games. Yes. Gaming drove me to PCs and programming. I was missing out on DX10 and DX11 titles. Again, thanks Microsoft for nerfing XP.

    What did I really want? I wanted a 32bit OS that could give me access to 4GB+. I didn't want a 64bit OS as I have no need for it. I don't see 64bit as mainstream. Sure, its a must for video production or crunching big pharma molecular combinations... but for me... 32bit was more than fine.

    I wanted to give Linux on the desktop a shot as I knew Linux 3.0+ had proper 32bit PAE support. I work a lot with Linux servers. I love Linux, first bitten by Gentoo in 2002 (I bootstrapped several installs from Gentoo stage 1 - so I am familiar with Linux's gubbins).

    These are the distros I tried about a month ago.

    1. Linux Mint Debian Edition - 2011.09. I love Debian. Really really love Debian. So I thought LMDE would be perfect. And it almost was. Bar one issue. Debian. For me, Debian is perfect on the server. Very stable. Very slow for updates. Perfect. On the desktop? Not so perfect. Several widgets and apps that I needed would not install on LMDE due to it having older packages based on Debian testing. Also a fresh install of LMDE has serveral problems, mainly a non working swap and hibernation support which reqires abit of tinkering. This is just the tip of the iceberg though as several things don't work after a vanilla install.

    2. Ubuntu 11.04. That lasted all of 10 mins as soon as saw Unity.

    3. Linux Mint Lisa Gnome. This lasted 30 mins. Linux mint took Gnome 3 and added a few extensions. Gnome 3 still sucks. _Hard_!

    4. Linux Mint Lisa KDE. This lasted about five days. KDE 4.8.1 is actually very impressive. And almost perfect. Sadly, its imperfections eat away at you until you start despising it. These range from a plethora of minor bugs, a flaky window manager that often ignores window rules and doesn't understand full screen apps, broken packages that don't install or run correctly and so on. Many of these issues has bug reports dating back to 2009 and 2010... so quick fixes were well beyond the horizon.

    One overriding factor turned me away from Desktop Linux: stability. X11 would crash at least once or twice a day, potentially corrupting my VM images as an X11 crash kills any GUI applications relying on it. This is bad as I spend 90% of my time inside a VM. One bad crash could potentially ruin a VM image. This, for me at least, was not acceptable. These VM images range from a couple of Gig to 20GB in size so daily backups were a non starter.

    In the end, I bit the bullet and tried Windows 7 32bit with a hacked Kernel which supports 36bit PAE. I now have Wi

    1. Re:Don't Bother with Desktop Linux by mcnazar · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention that Desktop Linux effectively cut me off from my clients:

      1. Skype - All my clients using Skype on both Windows and Mac clients. Linux Skype, 2.5beta, doesn't really play nice with its Windows and Mac siblings. Expect video and screen sharing features to fail.

      2. Screen sharing. Again, all my clients use join.me, which is requires wine + magic + luck to run.

  61. Bollocks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Berating and asking for more information about what the op wants are pretty different things.

    And while the answer 'dont, dont even try' is a valid option, it isn't the first serious answer by a long shot. It is the first one to suggest in the opening line using windows instead however, and I've got to wonder if that is what you are actually applauding.

  62. Mikogo and Skype for linux. by Smoodo · · Score: 1

    Mikogo is the only "Gotomeeting" software that I know of that works well on Linux. That will allow you to switch between presenting your desktop or flip to allow viewing of their Windows desktop.
    Skype works okay for conversations, but I would probably buy a VoIP box to carry around like iTalkBB www.italkbb.com or the one from Vonage for telephone stuff.

  63. What are your companies systems? by baileydau · · Score: 1

    Well if you are planning to telecommute, it would be expected that your company has systems and procedures in place for this. What are they.

    Even within the Windows world, not everyone has all their work professional software at home. So they will have methods for you to obtain /
    access it as required.
    In general there are probably two directions they may have gone.

    1) It's a generic communication type job. You'll probably need email, calendaring, instant messaging, video conferencing, generic web applications (wiki / CRM etc)
    2) Technical job that requires professional software.

    In the case of 1. Linux can probably handle most of your needs trivially.
    Email.
    There are any number of clients. Your company will probably have IMAP set up, maybe over a VPN. Pretty much all the email clients do IMAP. There are also MS Exchange plugins available for various clients
    Calendaring
    Similarly there are various options. Including DavMail / Exchange plugins

    IM
    There are plenty of options here as well. Skype is popular. It works on Linux. I use it on a regular basis.
    Video conferencing
    May depend on your company's systems. Again if they allow this type of thing , they will have systems. It it's Skype, well that works. Video conferencing tends to be somewhat vendor specific. So if you need to talk to clients, the company will probably have / use generic / standards compliant software so that it works for everyone.

    Web application
    Should Just Work (TM). Unless they are particularly badly written

    In the case of 2. They will either provide copies of the professional software to use at home, or there will be some form of remote access system.
    Linux can handle RDP, Citrix, Teamviewer, VNC etc

    I now work in a Windows shop, but have had a Linux desktop since last Millennium some time. It is a pretty trivial task to work from home.

    Actually I can do a bunch of my work from my Android tablet if I desire. That's how trivial this stuff is now days (and has been for quite a while in reality)

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  64. Depends on what you want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -Messaging, calls, desktop sharing you can try jitsi wich has mac/linux/windows client and you can use it with a google account. Alternatively you can use ekiga, but I think it doesn't have all the function of jitsi
    -If you have your server you can install owncloud for file sharing with a team, svn/git for file sharing with version control
    -If don't have your server you can use google docs for document sharing with a team and services like dropbox for file sharing with version control.

  65. Embedded Linux Kernel Hacker Here.... by Izaak · · Score: 1

    I've been doing the telecommuting thing for nearly a decade now, focusing mainly on emebedded linux kernel and driver developent as well as Android work more recently. I not only get my job done from home, I sometimes work on the road in an RV. I mostly use an Ubuntu laptop, Verizon MyFi, and a cell phone. I also have a Tektronix oscilloscope and a BDI3000 hardware debugger... but that is more specific to my kind of work than most people will need I suppose. On the software end, I mostly use gmail for email (though I have used Thunderbird in the past). LibreOffice does everything I need in document department. I trade Word and Excell docs with Microsoft users all the time with no complaints. Gmail also seems to handle the calender thing pretty well, including interoperting with Microsoft calendar messages. I've occasionaly had to work with clients with a very Microsoft centric infratructure, and that has meant using the web interface to their Outlook server and other such hastle... but I've always manage to get by.
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