You align yourself to a belief in something or someone then defend it despite any contrary evidence or arguments no matter how well presented. Then occasionally someone has a "conversion" - eg christianity to islam or windows to mac and they're now just as fervently against their previous choice and tub thumping for their new one.
Personally I think its a mild mental illness and its hard to tell apart the tone of the rantings of fanbois from religious nutters.
People like you are what give true FOSS and Linux users like me a bad name. I'm ashamed to be associated with idiots who drop the microsoft line everytime they disagree with something. Its the slashdot equivalent of godwins law. Pathetic.
Ok , data could be stored as a magnetic alignment, but how do you get that information from one side of the chip to the other when you need to actually use it? You can't transmit magnetism down a wire and if you use electrons then you're still going to have a large amount of wasted energy.
If the devices are intended to be used for something like 10 years then you might have a point. But lets be honest - they'll be "out of date" in 3 or 4 years and will be replaced.
The cost of mining the metals and recovering the oil to build a netbook will be orders of magnitude more enviromentally damaging than simply pulping wood to make a book. Not forgetting than most paper comes from managed woodland which absorbs CO2 as it grows anyway and is replanted.
There might be fewer than 15 years ago but there are still plenty around - as a quick Google will show - and there must be a new generation discovering them now as they do have quite a few users and I can't believe its 30 and 40 somethings doing the same quests over and over again that they were doing in their teens and 20s back in the 90s.
WTF are you talking about? If you can't get LILO to work with headless servers perhaps you should pick another career. How do you think it was done before GRUB came along, magic??
I can't stand it and immediately dump it for lilo as soon as I've done an install. I just want the boot loader to load the OS and get the hell out of town. End of. I don't need a boot "enviroment" thanks.
No , nothing wrong with securing it but for some reason you find it funny if its broken. That says a lot about your level of maturity. Let me guess, you're early to mid 20s, probably still living at home with mum.
In your opinion. But as we've seen , your opinion isn't worth much.
"And just like watching any other building tumble, its enjoyable to watch"
So you'd be laughing if someone broke into the bank you use and stole all your money? I'm sorry, whats that? Thats different is it?
"You can think that makes me a bad person to enjoy other people's misery - just remember it next time you walk by a homeless person asking for change."
If thats some piss poor attempt at moral equivalence you need to go back to the drawing board.
Though they do a nice line in hypocricy. Usually with people like the OP "information" invariably means "everyone else information, not mine". They make me want to heave.
So for example if police or security services have information about a crime to be committed but what to keep it secret so they can catch the criminals in the act , you think they should just make that information public ASAP and if the criminals find out, well too bad eh? At least your moral high ground is intact.
Christ I wish people like you wold grow the fuck up. This is real life with real people, not some fantasy nirvana with idealtistic ciphers standing in for real fallible people you and you idiot right-on friends might dream about. Newsflash - such a place doesn't exist. Go learn some history and then learn about human nature.
Well thats the point - Gaddafi realises that the West can give him a good kicking if he pisses them off and since he's your typical dictator who values his own life he'll naturally restrict himself to what won't get him killed. Al Quaeda doesn't have that restriction - its a nebulous loose knit organisation and has thousands of brainwashed volunteers just ready to die for their idiotic cause. In my mind that is FAR more dangerous that some standard issue psychopath.
However I have it on good authority that Gaddafi is lining up crack troops of 5 year olds to disable then break the enemy weapons within minutes by being sick all over them then trying to feed them to an angry cat.
Do we know anything about these rebels other than they don't like Gaddafi? How do we know we're not helping an Al Queada style organisation get into power? I have a bad feeling about this.
"You are not responsible for what happens when you release details of serious security vulnerabilities if you've told them about the problem and given a reasonable amount of time given to repair the fault."
I'm sorry , what? Seriously?
So you release details of a vulnerability which you've discovered and its "not your fault" if someone then uses it after you've decided on some arbitrary length of time the manufacturer needs to fix it?
Okay, riiight.
You my friend need to take off your rose coloured teen hacker glasses and wake up to the real world. There may be a lot of reasons that the fault can't be fixed quickly or at all - it may need a hardware upgrade for a start which can't be rolled out to large industrial systems overnight and even if its only a software upgrade are you aware of the hoops software has to jump through during testing in what may be safety critical systems?
No , didn't think so.
When you've finished college and worked in the real world for a while perhaps you might get a clue but I won't hold my breath.
That looked like a citrix session or something to me , not the actual desktop. And unless I can get rid of that idiotic Phone 7 style interface completely then I don't want Win8 anywhere near my PC.
"Have you looked at any phone or tablet interfaces recently"
You ever looked at how people use PCs in offices? Hint - they don't prod at the screen with their fingers. This is supposed to be a general purpose OS , not one purely designed for the Oooh Shiny! trendy crowd with their $1000 tablets and skinny lattes.
This interface might be great for tablets designed purely for consuming media , but for a general purpose PC this is one giant leap backwards. God help us if they go with this and frankly I think if they do it may kill Windows in the coporate arena where people need to multitask with half a dozen or more apps at the same time.
... that they programs are just a shell , an interface to the applications that do the actual work. It doesn't matter how many times they rearrange the spaces in the car park , its the cars that are important. I just want a GUI to allow me to manage applications. End of. I don't need some all singing and dancing bloatware that sucks cycles from the CPU because it gives the devs - who couldn't quite make the grade as games or graphics package developers - a hard on to come up with silly animations and other BS that no one needs. This applies to KDE, Gnome, Windows and OS/X. And for that reason I don't use any of them. twm works for fine me.
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You align yourself to a belief in something or someone then defend it despite any contrary evidence or arguments no matter how well presented. Then occasionally someone has a "conversion" - eg christianity to islam or windows to mac and they're now just as fervently against their previous choice and tub thumping for their new one.
Personally I think its a mild mental illness and its hard to tell apart the tone of the rantings of fanbois from religious nutters.
People like you are what give true FOSS and Linux users like me a bad name. I'm ashamed to be associated with idiots who drop the microsoft line everytime they disagree with something. Its the slashdot equivalent of godwins law. Pathetic.
Ok , data could be stored as a magnetic alignment, but how do you get that information from one side of the chip to the other when you need to actually use it? You can't transmit magnetism down a wire and if you use electrons then you're still going to have a large amount of wasted energy.
If the devices are intended to be used for something like 10 years then you might have a point. But lets be honest - they'll be "out of date" in 3 or 4 years and will be replaced.
The cost of mining the metals and recovering the oil to build a netbook will be orders of magnitude more enviromentally damaging than simply pulping wood to make a book. Not forgetting than most paper comes from managed woodland which absorbs CO2 as it grows anyway and is replanted.
... or having millions of netbooks or pads requiring constant charging compared to a book which requires - none.
There might be fewer than 15 years ago but there are still plenty around - as a quick Google will show - and there must be a new generation discovering them now as they do have quite a few users and I can't believe its 30 and 40 somethings doing the same quests over and over again that they were doing in their teens and 20s back in the 90s.
Yes, my mistake. I shouldn't skim read.
WTF are you talking about? If you can't get LILO to work with headless servers perhaps you should pick another career. How do you think it was done before GRUB came along, magic??
FFS.
I can't stand it and immediately dump it for lilo as soon as I've done an install. I just want the boot loader to load the OS and get the hell out of town. End of. I don't need a boot "enviroment" thanks.
No , nothing wrong with securing it but for some reason you find it funny if its broken. That says a lot about your level of maturity. Let me guess, you're early to mid 20s, probably still living at home with mum.
"People are trying in vain to keep things secure"
In your opinion. But as we've seen , your opinion isn't worth much.
"And just like watching any other building tumble, its enjoyable to watch"
So you'd be laughing if someone broke into the bank you use and stole all your money? I'm sorry, whats that? Thats different is it?
"You can think that makes me a bad person to enjoy other people's misery - just remember it next time you walk by a homeless person asking for change."
If thats some piss poor attempt at moral equivalence you need to go back to the drawing board.
Though they do a nice line in hypocricy. Usually with people like the OP "information" invariably means "everyone else information, not mine". They make me want to heave.
"Information's natural state is to be free "
So for example if police or security services have information about a crime to be committed but what to keep it secret so they can catch the criminals in the act , you think they should just make that information public ASAP and if the criminals find out, well too bad eh? At least your moral high ground is intact.
Christ I wish people like you wold grow the fuck up. This is real life with real people, not some fantasy nirvana with idealtistic ciphers standing in for real fallible people you and you idiot right-on friends might dream about. Newsflash - such a place doesn't exist. Go learn some history and then learn about human nature.
Well thats the point - Gaddafi realises that the West can give him a good kicking if he pisses them off and since he's your typical dictator who values his own life he'll naturally restrict himself to what won't get him killed. Al Quaeda doesn't have that restriction - its a nebulous loose knit organisation and has thousands of brainwashed volunteers just ready to die for their idiotic cause. In my mind that is FAR more dangerous that some standard issue psychopath.
However I have it on good authority that Gaddafi is lining up crack troops of 5 year olds to disable then break the enemy weapons within minutes by being sick all over them then trying to feed them to an angry cat.
Do we know anything about these rebels other than they don't like Gaddafi? How do we know we're not helping an Al Queada style organisation get into power? I have a bad feeling about this.
What an utter crock of shit. No wonder you posted AC.
"You are not responsible for what happens when you release details of serious security vulnerabilities if you've told them about the problem and given a reasonable amount of time given to repair the fault."
I'm sorry , what? Seriously?
So you release details of a vulnerability which you've discovered and its "not your fault" if someone then uses it after you've decided on some arbitrary length of time the manufacturer needs to fix it?
Okay, riiight.
You my friend need to take off your rose coloured teen hacker glasses and wake up to the real world. There may be a lot of reasons that the fault can't be fixed quickly or at all - it may need a hardware upgrade for a start which can't be rolled out to large industrial systems overnight and even if its only a software upgrade are you aware of the hoops software has to jump through during testing in what may be safety critical systems?
No , didn't think so.
When you've finished college and worked in the real world for a while perhaps you might get a clue but I won't hold my breath.
That looked like a citrix session or something to me , not the actual desktop. And unless I can get rid of that idiotic Phone 7 style interface completely then I don't want Win8 anywhere near my PC.
What would the civil servants in charge of procurement do then? They'd be out of a job and we can't have that!
"Have you looked at any phone or tablet interfaces recently"
You ever looked at how people use PCs in offices? Hint - they don't prod at the screen with their fingers. This is supposed to be a general purpose OS , not one purely designed for the Oooh Shiny! trendy crowd with their $1000 tablets and skinny lattes.
This interface might be great for tablets designed purely for consuming media , but for a general purpose PC this is one giant leap backwards. God help us if they go with this and frankly I think if they do it may kill Windows in the coporate arena where people need to multitask with half a dozen or more apps at the same time.
... that they programs are just a shell , an interface to the applications that do the actual work. It doesn't matter how many times they rearrange the spaces in the car park , its the cars that are important. I just want a GUI to allow me to manage applications. End of. I don't need some all singing and dancing bloatware that sucks cycles from the CPU because it gives the devs - who couldn't quite make the grade as games or graphics package developers - a hard on to come up with silly animations and other BS that no one needs. This applies to KDE, Gnome, Windows and OS/X. And for that reason I don't use any of them. twm works for fine me.
You're about 10 years too late with that "gag". Try a bit harder.