If the kernels are good enough for linus they should be good enough for these guys. 2.69-1.665?? Wtf? These days in any new dist other than slackware I bin the fscked up kernel that comes with it an install a stock one as I don't like surprises from we-can-do-it-better-than-the-main-team hacker code.
Whos to say that perhaps at a meeting not long ago an MS salesman dropped a none too subtle hint that if HP continued using Linux on a mass market system then licensing of various things on the PC side may become trickier or more expensive. We all know how MS operates and even a company the size of HP has to ask "how high?" when billy says jump when it comes down to usage of the OS that runs on the platform that brings in a large part of HPs profits.
It looks suspiciously like the kind of garbage you get when you load up a page that your browser doesn't have language support for!:)
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Yes , if you think you're really interesting and lead a fascinating life but until now no one has ever believed you, heres your chance to put it to the masses. Modesty be damned, your trip to the toilet really IS something to be noted for posterity, that cup of coffee you just made WAS a masterpiece , and that dog of yours COULD easily be the next Lassie.
So , if you're so full of your own self importance that you think it should've been you in the election run this month, then start a photo block!
Sounds interesting but I tend to be of the opinion that XML isn't the best thing to use if you want efficient. Yes its human readable and yes you can use standard parsers , but by god does it suck up CPU cycles to parse.
Stuff like this whereby you get a load of co-operating computers and a multi level archtitecture to utilise it was done years ago , all built on top of RPC. This to me is just a nother refashioning of age old ideas so the people involved can justify their research positions and so IBM (and others) can make a whole heap of cash out of gullible IT managers.
Perhaps this possibility is precluded by other data but it would make sense for the surface to be smooth(ish) if it was all liquid. As for the 50m high variations , well in gravity that low it could be easily possible for normal waves to be that height (though where does the energy come from? Don't know). Anyway , just a though...
Maybe you and the other poster (who is probably you anyway) should go get a clue in the real world of programming and start thinking for yourself instead of spouting childish antagonistic questions based on what you learnt on Programming 101.
Its more syntatic waffle created to solve a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place. It adds to the headache of trying to read complex C++ code.
"References are the ultimate syntactic way to say "don't mess with the pointer, just use the object".
Personally I find them to be more the case of "is this API function going to change my object or not?". Yes I know , use consts and make the code even more unreadable than it is already. Blech. Also duplicating an already existing method of doing something then removing most of its functionality seems IMO pointless. *shrug*
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"If someone tells me that they are a C/C++ programmer, I'm going to assume they're a novice at both languages."
Thats an assanine statement to make. I've been a professional programmer for 11 years, most of that doing C AND C++. Yes thats using both languages or a mixture of the 2 depending on what project I've worked on. And I'm quite happy doing either high level OO template programming (C++) or low level boolean bit operations, memory management, function pointers etc (C). Most people I know who do C/C++ would have the same ability and most people I've interviewed myself I would expect the same off. If they can't handle malloc & free they're as useless to me as if they can't handle temaplates.
"in my head I know that the interview is probably already over."
Then I suspect you're probably responsible for your company not hiring a lot of good people since you obviously have an arrogant attitude and give the impression that only you can be master of both. If you worked for me I'd never let you near an interview room.
Its easy to create simple malloc()/free() wrapper functions.
"Inline Comments"
Eh? Whats stopping you doing/* waffle */ ?
"References"
These are hardly a selling point of C++ in my opinion. Implicit pass by address symantics should NEVER have been put in a modern language. Besides , after compilation they produce the same code as that using pointers.
"Others I'm sure"
Inheritance, templates etc. It just depends on how much you way syntatic clarity (C) against functional clarity (C++). Personally I think anyone who sticks religiously to either C or C++ without every using the other probably isn't a very competant programmer.
... with a CD or even a vinyl LP you can skip to wherever you want in seconds or less. This player is supposed to be the next generation of music machines and yet it appears to be a lot more awkward to use in some ways than the technology its supposed to supercede! For me thats hardly a selling point.
"but because everything was done to make it as complicated as possible."
Theres nothing stopping russia creating its own applications and even OSs. Look at China.
"Unfortunately, the US standards, based on the anti-scientific Imperial system of measurments, is taking hold world-wide"
The reverse is true. Metric is worldwide and imperial is hanging on by its teeth in the UK and only used solely in the USA.
"if the West is not even interested in our culture?"
Its nothing to do with culture , its to do with market. The english language media market is so massive it doesn't need to import stuff from non english speaking countries. This is nothing against russia , you won't for example find many brazilian , nigerian, indian etc songs in the english speaking media either.
Otherwise there won't be any slowing down at Mars , just a big splat. Unless the ship carries conventional thrusters too of course, but the fuel required to slow down would be immense and then we're back to square one.
"Ask some of those programmers how to portably pass a file descriptor between processes, when one isn't a child of the other."
I've never yet seen anyone use that in real code mainly because A) Its not that useful anyway B) Different unixes use different methods and C) The code to do it is a long ugly kludge which is impossible to remember.
If you could write code to do it off the cuff (as you imply with your comment) without reference to Stevens then you're either a genius with a photographic memory or a robot. I've been a professional unix systems level coder for 10 years but I couldn't do it without his book on my lap and doing a read-and-type.
Aww , did I hit a nerve? Tough. And its nothing to do with being smug , its to do with not screwing up the climate. No doubt you're the typical "How dare anyone tell me what to do , I'll do what I damn well please and fuck anyone or anything else until I have 100% proof that my SUV causes problems."
"Do you have any ideas, other than lousy, inequitable treaties, or full-of-it smugness?"
Well , lets see , umm , how about fuel efficient cars? You know , the ones europeans and japanese manage to drive? How about general energy conservation wrt electricity usage? How about less forest destruction? Etc. Its not hard. Well , not for most people , you could be an exception.
"It just makes you feel *so* smart and superior to type that, doesn't it?"
Anyone could feel superior to someone like you. Thanks for unwittingly proving my point btw.
"assuming that their choice of car can affect anything so massive as a planet."
Don't act dumb. Plain logic dictates that while 1 persons choice of car affects very little , the choice of 6 BILLION people does! Ok , say only 500 million actually own a car , thats still a LOT of cars. So put the one-person-can't-make-a-difference argument to bed , its so old and decrepit I almost feel sorry for it.
"At most, we could wipe *ourselves* out,"
That may be thse case , but thats hardly something to sit back and relax about.
According to locals it says. As we know peasents arn't always 100% accurate. More likely a large group of them once killed a lame diseased lion long ago and someone happened to see it. Even a 200kg Gorilla wouldn't stand a chance with a fully grown healthy adult lion.
Someone will be along soon to tell us that this is all part of a natural progression and we have nothing to worry about and to all go back to driving 5.0 SUVs as we can't hope to understand the climate and so figures are irrelevant and its not are fault etc etc etc. I wonder how many of these people STILL have their heads in the sand after this?
And what if you have dialup? YOu ever tried downloading a whole album over a 56K? Not to mention that most contries charge for local calls. It all adds up.
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If the kernels are good enough for linus they should be good enough for these guys. 2.69-1.665?? Wtf? These days in any new dist other than slackware I bin the fscked up kernel that comes with it an install a stock one as I don't like surprises from we-can-do-it-better-than-the-main-team hacker code.
Whos to say that perhaps at a meeting not long ago an MS salesman dropped a none too subtle hint that if HP continued using Linux on a mass market system then licensing of various things on the PC side may become trickier or more expensive. We all know how MS operates and even a company the size of HP has to ask "how high?" when billy says jump when it comes down to usage of the OS that runs on the platform that brings in a large part of HPs profits.
It looks suspiciously like the kind of garbage you get when you load up a page that your browser doesn't have language support for! :)
Yes , if you think you're really interesting and lead a fascinating life but until now no one has ever believed you, heres your chance to put it to the masses. Modesty be damned, your trip to the toilet really IS something to be noted for posterity, that cup of coffee you just made WAS a masterpiece , and that dog of yours COULD easily be the next Lassie.
So , if you're so full of your own self importance that you think it should've been you in the election run this month, then start a photo block!
Sounds interesting but I tend to be of the opinion that XML isn't the best thing to use if you want efficient. Yes its human readable and yes you can use standard parsers , but by god does it suck up CPU cycles to parse.
Stuff like this whereby you get a load of co-operating computers and a multi level archtitecture to utilise it was done years ago , all built on top of RPC. This to me is just a nother refashioning of age old ideas so the people involved can justify their research positions and so IBM (and others) can make a whole heap of cash out of gullible IT managers.
Perhaps this possibility is precluded by other data but it would make sense for the surface to be smooth(ish) if it was all liquid. As for the 50m high variations , well in gravity that low it could be easily possible for normal waves to be that height (though where does the energy come from? Don't know). Anyway , just a though...
Maybe you and the other poster (who is probably you anyway) should go get a clue in the real world of programming and start thinking for yourself instead of spouting childish antagonistic questions based on what you learnt on Programming 101.
Its more syntatic waffle created to solve a problem that doesn't need to exist in the first place. It adds to the headache of trying to read complex C++ code.
"References are the ultimate syntactic way to say "don't mess with the pointer, just use the object".
Personally I find them to be more the case of "is this API function going to change my object or not?". Yes I know , use consts and make the code even more unreadable than it is already. Blech. Also duplicating an already existing method of doing something then removing most of its functionality seems IMO pointless. *shrug*
"If someone tells me that they are a C/C++ programmer, I'm going to assume they're a novice at both languages."
Thats an assanine statement to make. I've been a professional programmer for 11 years, most of that doing C AND C++. Yes thats using both languages or a mixture of the 2 depending on what project I've worked on. And I'm quite happy doing either high level OO template programming (C++) or low level boolean bit operations, memory management, function pointers etc (C). Most people I know who do C/C++ would have the same ability and most people I've interviewed myself I would expect the same off. If they can't handle malloc & free they're as useless to me as if they can't handle temaplates.
"in my head I know that the interview is probably already over."
Then I suspect you're probably responsible for your company not hiring a lot of good people since you obviously have an arrogant attitude and give the impression that only you can be master of both. If you worked for me I'd never let you near an interview room.
Ah yes , but you can emulate most of that in C:
/* waffle */ ?
"Exception Handling"
setjmp(), longjmp()
"Function Overloading"
Function pointers
"Operator overloading"
Ok , you can't do this in C.
"New/Delete"
Its easy to create simple malloc()/free() wrapper functions.
"Inline Comments"
Eh? Whats stopping you doing
"References"
These are hardly a selling point of C++ in my opinion. Implicit pass by address symantics should NEVER have been put in a modern language. Besides , after compilation they produce the same code as that using pointers.
"Others I'm sure"
Inheritance, templates etc. It just depends on how much you way syntatic clarity (C) against functional clarity (C++). Personally I think anyone who sticks religiously to either C or C++ without every using the other probably isn't a very competant programmer.
... with a CD or even a vinyl LP you can skip to wherever you want in seconds or less. This player is supposed to be the next generation of music machines and yet it appears to be a lot more awkward to use in some ways than the technology its supposed to supercede! For me thats hardly a selling point.
"isn't as fast as heavily optimised C, but it's close enough, and it lets you do more"
Really? I'd just love to see you write a device driver (or frankly anything low level) in Lisp then.
"std::string from the STL, which I have found to be astonishingly inefficient several times."
Which is why char* is still used by most C++ coders that i know where they can.
"but because everything was done to make it as complicated as possible."
Theres nothing stopping russia creating its own applications and even OSs. Look at China.
"Unfortunately, the US standards, based on the anti-scientific Imperial system of measurments, is taking hold world-wide"
The reverse is true. Metric is worldwide and imperial is hanging on by its teeth in the UK and only used solely in the USA.
"if the West is not even interested in our culture?"
Its nothing to do with culture , its to do with market. The english language media market is so massive it doesn't need to import stuff from non english speaking countries. This is nothing against russia , you won't for example find many brazilian , nigerian, indian etc songs in the english speaking media either.
Was it Windows, Linux, BSD, Solaris etc?? It doesn't say in the articles.
Otherwise there won't be any slowing down at Mars , just a big splat. Unless the ship carries conventional thrusters too of course, but the fuel required to slow down would be immense and then we're back to square one.
"Ask some of those programmers how to portably pass a file descriptor between processes, when one isn't a child of the other."
I've never yet seen anyone use that in real code mainly because A) Its not that useful anyway B) Different unixes use different methods and C) The code to do it is a long ugly kludge which is impossible to remember.
If you could write code to do it off the cuff (as you imply with your comment) without reference to Stevens then you're either a genius with a photographic memory or a robot. I've been a professional unix systems level coder for 10 years but I couldn't do it without his book on my lap and doing a read-and-type.
Aww , did I hit a nerve? Tough. And its nothing to do with being smug , its to do with not screwing up the climate. No doubt you're the typical "How dare anyone tell me what to do , I'll do what I damn well please and fuck anyone or anything else until I have 100% proof that my SUV causes problems."
"Do you have any ideas, other than lousy, inequitable treaties, or full-of-it smugness?"
Well , lets see , umm , how about fuel efficient cars? You know , the ones europeans and japanese manage to drive? How about general energy conservation wrt electricity usage? How about less forest destruction? Etc. Its not hard. Well , not for most people , you could be an exception.
"It just makes you feel *so* smart and superior to type that, doesn't it?"
Anyone could feel superior to someone like you. Thanks for unwittingly proving my point btw.
"assuming that their choice of car can affect anything so massive as a planet."
Don't act dumb. Plain logic dictates that while 1 persons choice of car affects very little , the choice of 6 BILLION people does! Ok , say only 500 million actually own a car , thats still a LOT of cars. So put the one-person-can't-make-a-difference argument to bed , its so old and decrepit I almost feel sorry for it.
"At most, we could wipe *ourselves* out,"
That may be thse case , but thats hardly something to sit back and relax about.
"forest fires as a cause."
And a lot of those fires recently around the world were started by arsonists or farmers clearing the land!
According to locals it says. As we know peasents arn't always 100% accurate. More likely a large group of them once killed a lame diseased lion long ago and someone happened to see it. Even a 200kg Gorilla wouldn't stand a chance with a fully grown healthy adult lion.
Someone will be along soon to tell us that this is all part of a natural progression and we have nothing to worry about and to all go back to driving 5.0 SUVs as we can't hope to understand the climate and so figures are irrelevant and its not are fault etc etc etc. I wonder how many of these people STILL have their heads in the sand after this?
"but actually downloading the music itself."
And what if you have dialup? YOu ever tried downloading a whole album over a 56K? Not to mention that most contries charge for local calls. It all adds up.