Actually, it would be pretty cool to see a community that contributed to all the little details - kind of like a co-op world.
then you'd have this huge pool of resources from which to draw - no time to model and texture that bookcase you need for a room? just go and buy it.
grin, there could be auctions, just like real life, and since the 'structures' and objects you'd be buying have taken time and effort to create, and will have varying degrees of craftsmanship, you'd have a chance that it would actually turn into a market.
the value, of course, would be that everybody would have to be able to use the resources, resell and develop their own parts of the world.
we've seen something vaguely similar in the mod community since Doom (the original, kiddies), but it's not really there yet.
Trouble is, it's a social problem, not a technological one. We can regulate and jam and invent and troubleshoot and work around as much as we like, but in the end, it's just common social grace that's lacking.
oh, come on, now... since when have you been to an office and found it anything but abso-freakin'-lutely freezing? Every office i've always worked in has had the air-conditioning cranked. I think maybe it's to disguise the fact that you really just enter a portal to hell when you work in an office.
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I love that I was actually able to use the "word" abso-freakin'-lutely in a sentence. =)
Can you name another industry where things become obsolete when they are still usefull?
cameras, radios, hmmm. tube amps and transistors, perhaps, or even diesel vs steam vs gas vs alcohol... in the sense that obselete is just "no longer efficient".
Hey, it sounded like a simple statement, but I found myself trying to come up with any answer... couldn't do it, you're right. almost
I've got it! nothing really compares to the waste of computers, except for... clothing fashions. hmm. scary thought.
ah, but to actually ignore all that the book had to say was just... borderline insulting.
I could see where V was going with the movie, but even if you took the original book almost untouched, it would have made for a pretty damn good script. As it was, the changes and ommissions made the movie/too/ camp... the satire and social commentary that survived was watered-down, and i'd even submit that the movie became a victim of its own critique.
I'm actually thinking that this is a bad thing - I mean, I love HHGTTG and have been a fan for years, ever since I first heard it on the radio late at night (ah, the good old days of cobbling together a radio out of spare parts and trashing an old telephone for speakers and other parts...)
But some of what I felt was best about HHG was the fact that you used your imagination. It was intangible, and you had to fill in the blanks. To me, it's like the monster under the bed - nothing could possible top what you could make up for yourself.
Putting a movie shell on this would ruin things a bit - perhaps a lot - for me. I look forward to this with dread, not anticipation.
Then again, it/is/ HHG... i'll probably have to see it. =) Same thing with Ender's Game, if they ever get that off the ground, and i'm not thinking that would be an easy one to pull off in the least, either.
At best, it is a mildly funny fantasy story - not sci-fi, for there isn't much in the way of science to it. At worst, it is downright silly - no matter how deeply in awe many may be at Deep Thought's answer to the question of life and everything.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but you wouldn't happen to have given any thought to the fact that that's the entire fucking point?
sometimes I actually enjoy my light reading to be... well, um, light. If it can be silly and witty and not just a little irreverent to the genre or life in general, I think that's great, too. Hell, if you can't appreciate tongue-in-cheek humour, don't bother reading HHG, by all means, take things too seriously and you can keep your ulcers to yourself.
two different things - the movie clips in radio shows can be seen as either excerpted for parody, or for discussion/example (or a loose interpretation of 'educational') - IANAL, but this probably falls under 'fair use' in most cases.
as for in movies and tv, that's a different (and lengthy) story. The songs used in movies (or anywhere else, for that matter) have to get permission from the publishers of the works (think of 'publisher' in this case as 'stock holder' - you can trade and sell publishing rights, as opposed to copyright, which always stays with the creator). You have both copyright and publishing rights to a song as soon as you create it, but you can sell a portion of the publishing or 'controlling' rights to someone else, so they can give permission for use in media. they can in turn sell those or a portion, etc.
This happens in all instances of the broadcast of the song (in canada, the rights are handled by SOCAN, in the states, it's ASCAP or... damn, i forget the other one), and usage permission from a publisher is required. I recently had two of my songs used in a movie, and although I share writing credits with other people, I was able to give rights for their use. But had they just used it, I would have had proper recourse.
A lot of songs reside on databases that the tv/movie industry searches when they need a certain 'feel' or type of song - they then find on e of the publishers (people/companies with the right to give permission) and work out terms of agreement.
A lot of times, low-budget movies don't bother because they don't expect to make money. you can't get money from someone who doesn't have any, in other words. In most cases in TV, they probably do have permission, and have worked out a percentage deal or one-time fee, depending on the popularity of both the show and music.
I think the best thing to come out of this might be bringing the IP battle a bit more into the forefront in the minds of the average consumer - people who don't normally follow the whole DMCA, **AA, etc threads.
Doesn't even matter who does what in this situation - as it was mentioned somewhere else, it's most likely just a quibble over legalese that won't really change anything for us, but the social implications could be great.
I for one would love to see everybody sit up and say, "hey, if they're making this sort of stink among themselves, how long until it affects us?"
grin... wouldn't it be great if, instead of just a few thousand outraged slashdotters, there were millions of consumers that all of a sudden started a backlash, and changed the way we approach copyright and licensing? I feel it's long overdue and overlooked.
Anyone know how to cycle amoung open windows from the keyboard?
In both OS9 and X, you can just hit apple(command)-tab. similar to the windows alt-tab, except that OS9 will switch as soon as you hit tab, and X will wait until you release the apple key.
Interesting thing is that it seems that Apple ~ (actually, it's really the ` key) is becoming the standard for switching between windows within a an application.
Mini computers are the dinosaurs of old.
Hey, wouldn't dinosaurs be the dinosaurs of old? Mini computers would be the dinosaurs of kinda recent. =)
Actually, it would be pretty cool to see a community that contributed to all the little details - kind of like a co-op world.
then you'd have this huge pool of resources from which to draw - no time to model and texture that bookcase you need for a room? just go and buy it.
grin, there could be auctions, just like real life, and since the 'structures' and objects you'd be buying have taken time and effort to create, and will have varying degrees of craftsmanship, you'd have a chance that it would actually turn into a market.
the value, of course, would be that everybody would have to be able to use the resources, resell and develop their own parts of the world.
we've seen something vaguely similar in the mod community since Doom (the original, kiddies), but it's not really there yet.
Trouble is, it's a social problem, not a technological one. We can regulate and jam and invent and troubleshoot and work around as much as we like, but in the end, it's just common social grace that's lacking.
Well, you could say that girlfriends are home entertainment systems. :)
"Especially when used in an office..."
oh, come on, now... since when have you been to an office and found it anything but abso-freakin'-lutely freezing? Every office i've always worked in has had the air-conditioning cranked. I think maybe it's to disguise the fact that you really just enter a portal to hell when you work in an office.
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I love that I was actually able to use the "word" abso-freakin'-lutely in a sentence. =)
can we add a (Score : - 1 Failure to respond to baseball bat of sarcasm) mod?
cameras, radios, hmmm. tube amps and transistors, perhaps, or even diesel vs steam vs gas vs alcohol... in the sense that obselete is just "no longer efficient".
Hey, it sounded like a simple statement, but I found myself trying to come up with any answer... couldn't do it, you're right. almost
I've got it! nothing really compares to the waste of computers, except for... clothing fashions. hmm. scary thought.
man, i wish i knew what moderation was and how to do it - that deserves some points!
I could see where V was going with the movie, but even if you took the original book almost untouched, it would have made for a pretty damn good script. As it was, the changes and ommissions made the movie /too/ camp... the satire and social commentary that survived was watered-down, and i'd even submit that the movie became a victim of its own critique.
But some of what I felt was best about HHG was the fact that you used your imagination. It was intangible, and you had to fill in the blanks. To me, it's like the monster under the bed - nothing could possible top what you could make up for yourself.
Putting a movie shell on this would ruin things a bit - perhaps a lot - for me. I look forward to this with dread, not anticipation.
Then again, it /is/ HHG... i'll probably have to see it. =) Same thing with Ender's Game, if they ever get that off the ground, and i'm not thinking that would be an easy one to pull off in the least, either.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but you wouldn't happen to have given any thought to the fact that that's the entire fucking point?
sometimes I actually enjoy my light reading to be... well, um, light. If it can be silly and witty and not just a little irreverent to the genre or life in general, I think that's great, too. Hell, if you can't appreciate tongue-in-cheek humour, don't bother reading HHG, by all means, take things too seriously and you can keep your ulcers to yourself.
So long, and thanks for all the Hrrmfs!
two different things - the movie clips in radio shows can be seen as either excerpted for parody, or for discussion/example (or a loose interpretation of 'educational') - IANAL, but this probably falls under 'fair use' in most cases.
as for in movies and tv, that's a different (and lengthy) story. The songs used in movies (or anywhere else, for that matter) have to get permission from the publishers of the works (think of 'publisher' in this case as 'stock holder' - you can trade and sell publishing rights, as opposed to copyright, which always stays with the creator). You have both copyright and publishing rights to a song as soon as you create it, but you can sell a portion of the publishing or 'controlling' rights to someone else, so they can give permission for use in media. they can in turn sell those or a portion, etc.
This happens in all instances of the broadcast of the song (in canada, the rights are handled by SOCAN, in the states, it's ASCAP or ... damn, i forget the other one), and usage permission from a publisher is required. I recently had two of my songs used in a movie, and although I share writing credits with other people, I was able to give rights for their use. But had they just used it, I would have had proper recourse.
A lot of songs reside on databases that the tv/movie industry searches when they need a certain 'feel' or type of song - they then find on e of the publishers (people/companies with the right to give permission) and work out terms of agreement.
A lot of times, low-budget movies don't bother because they don't expect to make money. you can't get money from someone who doesn't have any, in other words. In most cases in TV, they probably do have permission, and have worked out a percentage deal or one-time fee, depending on the popularity of both the show and music.
I think the best thing to come out of this might be bringing the IP battle a bit more into the forefront in the minds of the average consumer - people who don't normally follow the whole DMCA, **AA, etc threads.
Doesn't even matter who does what in this situation - as it was mentioned somewhere else, it's most likely just a quibble over legalese that won't really change anything for us, but the social implications could be great.
I for one would love to see everybody sit up and say, "hey, if they're making this sort of stink among themselves, how long until it affects us?"
grin... wouldn't it be great if, instead of just a few thousand outraged slashdotters, there were millions of consumers that all of a sudden started a backlash, and changed the way we approach copyright and licensing? I feel it's long overdue and overlooked.
Anyone know how to cycle amoung open windows from the keyboard?
In both OS9 and X, you can just hit apple(command)-tab. similar to the windows alt-tab, except that OS9 will switch as soon as you hit tab, and X will wait until you release the apple key.
Interesting thing is that it seems that Apple ~ (actually, it's really the ` key) is becoming the standard for switching between windows within a an application.