I am curious. I don't know anybody who owns one of these boxes. I'd love to here just an impression (sucks!/love it) as sometimes the reviews are wishy-washy or just plain to damn boring to read.
As one who live here and has lived on the westcoast, let me tell you the women her are outrigh frumpy....I HATE THIS FRIGGIN PLACE... Dallas, Land of the SUV.
I think that you make a good point.
However, I think in order to get a broad message appeal one needs to appear "intellignt and professional" as well conduct themselves in a "intellignt and sensable" manner.
I have read at least one transcript (damn whis I had the link) where RMS and Co. did indeed interupt a meeting and speak out of turn. I understand his passion but, to act in such a manner does his cause and himself a disservice.
So, your proposed solution is that RMS should become a slimy, manipulative, ready-for-consumption media whore like Gates, Balmer, Ellison, and company?
LOL...you just proved his entire point.
<sarcasim>
Very resonable and professional makes me want to use free software right now.
</sarcasim>
I think you need to look the word up. Dogma and beign Dogmatic is not exclusive to religion.
dogmatic
1. assertive without proof.
2. positive or arogant in stating opinion
--Websters
Sure, whatever his faults, he has contributed significantly to the software community in general.
Myself, I have no problem with RMS and I agree that he has done a lot for a lot of people. But, I respectfully disagree with much of his views on software.
As for the bashing esp here, I think much of it has it's place. Hell, I'd challenge the *cough* editors here at slahdot to find and post oposing articles(not microsoft fud) that purpote ideas opposing RMS' ideas rather than just follow "non-free software" biggotry.
Youre kidding right? Not that it was bad but, the plots were harldly complex. And this show was far from highbrow or original. Plus the porly done hickish accents are a real detrement.
The only thing that made this show different was the fact that it was in space. Change the backdrop and you the same old re-hashed story of the anti-hero(s) tyring to get through life.
As for sci-fi...what? There was no "science" in the show. It was purly fiction.
He is proposing the source be available for inspection, just like bridge blueprints are available for inspection, but they still can't be copied, because they are still copyrighted.
I just do feel that this is a valid anology. Bluprints are the plan and, the building is the implementation.
In software, the design is typicaly UML type diagrams where as the implementation is the code. I have no problem releasing my design docs. But if a client or customer want the code, they can license it for non-comerical purposes only.
I agree.
I haven't been able to understand the whole mmorpg thing myself. I have tried a few recently and found them to be terribly mundane. Not to mention people constantly accusing others of "kill stealing" or "greifing". To me it seems that a persons life must be extreamly boring to consider this type of interaction entertaining.
Then like I said, it is their problem and they are bringing it on themselves and as you pointed out on us. If these people had a spine, life for them would be much happier. Life is just too damned complitacted and stressful already, why make yourself miserable.
I never said people hate McDonald's. I said that people would hate having a McDonald's commercial in their game. Very different beast. As for your "whiney bullshit" stuff, your idea is just a byproduct of an overly simplistic thought process.
Sorry, I miss-read the thing about McD's.
As far as over-simple. I completly disagree. A person would have to be completly daft to continue to pay for something they are so un-happy with. And as far as being intimidated, my god how do these people get by day to day if they can't say "No, I don't like this and will not pay for it." Whats the thing worse that can happen, the big Corp wont sell them a product they don't like anyway?
Sorry to disagree or as you call it oversimplify but, it is extreamly simple to me. I don't like a product, I'm getting a refund and / or will stop paying the monthly dues.
The sad fact is that the majority probably does hate the McDonald reference, but puts up with it anyway. Do you realize the huge, enormous number of Windows users that detest all the crap sitting in their system tray popping up at them at random times? Do you think they keep quiet because they like those interruptions, or because they're so programmed into believing that computer companies are monolithic entities that you cannot appeal to? Notice the difference in people's behavior when dealing with a small, local shop and a large corporation. With the small shop, the feel like they can change things. If the service isn't up to standards, they'll complain quite loudly. With a large corporation, they get this feeling that they're irrelevent, and no amount of customer feedback will do any good. Thus, they'll bend over and take everything the company wants to give them.
To put it nicely, I simply don't belive you. If so many people hated McDonald as you assert, why then are they still in business? There are *lots* of alternatives yet McDonalds sticks around. I personaly don't care fir their food, I prefer burgers with more beef on them.
As for your other examples..if someone hates something then they simply need to stop using/buying. Complaining otherwise is just whinney bullshit. I am tired of the whinney ass people complaing that they can't do anything about it yet continue to line up for it. PLEASE..these people deserve everything they get.
There are no laws aginst peacfull protest and ralies. It is when people resort to vandalism that they break the laws. Besides, do you realy some stupid and violent miscreant representing a cause.
All of you would get in an uproar if they started some heavy censorship on slashdot
Sure, there'd be an uproar and the site would eventualy die. Look what has happened to codeguru and devx. People didn't like the changes and simply stopped contributing to the sites.
And, people do have a say, if the don't want to be bombarded with said ads..they can choose not to play...it is simple.
Not buying the game is not going to change the fact that thousands of people will buy the game
What it will prove is that a vocal minorty is trying to impose their will on the majority. What makes you and your silly little McDonalds hating friends any more important than the "thousands" that do buy and enjoy the game?
If you don't like it, push off and let the others enjoy the game.
I am curious, who is going to pay for the script kiddies pinging your IP?
I havent had this happen myself but, I had a co-worker who told me he was getting pinged 24hrs a day. Seems to me that this is traffic and bandwidth that the suscriber should not be responsible for.
s the entire net under the control of a single management domain? No,
Duh..It is also completly besides the point. No OS is ever going to 100% free of security bugs. As I recall our beloved linux has even had some holes in the past. If MS continues to get better at locking down their OS'locked down HOW is this bad?
Slashdot Mirror
I am curious. I don't know anybody who owns one of these boxes. I'd love to here just an impression (sucks!/love it) as sometimes the reviews are wishy-washy or just plain to damn boring to read.
Mam, I hope you don't move here just for the team. It has nothing to offer if you are not into shopping.
Typical Dallas attitude...my insert phalic substitute is bigger / faster than yours. It is like living with a bunch of 12 year olds.
Why is anti-gove fud modded up when legitmate questions about the OSS modded down in other articles?
As one who live here and has lived on the westcoast, let me tell you the women her are outrigh frumpy....I HATE THIS FRIGGIN PLACE...
Dallas, Land of the SUV.
I think that you make a good point.
However, I think in order to get a broad message appeal one needs to appear "intellignt and professional" as well conduct themselves in a "intellignt and sensable" manner.
I have read at least one transcript (damn whis I had the link) where RMS and Co. did indeed interupt a meeting and speak out of turn. I understand his passion but, to act in such a manner does his cause and himself a disservice.
So, your proposed solution is that RMS should become a slimy, manipulative, ready-for-consumption media whore like Gates, Balmer, Ellison, and company?
LOL...you just proved his entire point.
<sarcasim>
Very resonable and professional makes me want to use free software right now.
</sarcasim>
I think you need to look the word up. Dogma and beign Dogmatic is not exclusive to religion.
dogmatic
1. assertive without proof.
2. positive or arogant in stating opinion --Websters
Sure, whatever his faults, he has contributed significantly to the software community in general.
Myself, I have no problem with RMS and I agree that he has done a lot for a lot of people. But, I respectfully disagree with much of his views on software.
As for the bashing esp here, I think much of it has it's place. Hell, I'd challenge the *cough* editors here at slahdot to find and post oposing articles(not microsoft fud) that purpote ideas opposing RMS' ideas rather than just follow "non-free software" biggotry.
that everybody who watches is paying at least part of their share to the project.
their share?
Call me crazy but if some was / is paying a monthly cable bill and having to suffer through adds they have paid their share.
I truly hope this dosen't work out.
Just curious will the community bought show(s) be commerical free.
Regardless this seems like sheer lunacy to me.
It makes you think to follow the plotlines
Youre kidding right? Not that it was bad but, the plots were harldly complex. And this show was far from highbrow or original. Plus the porly done hickish accents are a real detrement.
The only thing that made this show different was the fact that it was in space. Change the backdrop and you the same old re-hashed story of the anti-hero(s) tyring to get through life.
As for sci-fi...what? There was no "science" in the show. It was purly fiction.
He is proposing the source be available for inspection, just like bridge blueprints are available for inspection, but they still can't be copied, because they are still copyrighted.
I just do feel that this is a valid anology.
Bluprints are the plan and, the building is the implementation.
In software, the design is typicaly UML type diagrams where as the implementation is the code. I have no problem releasing my design docs. But if a client or customer want the code, they can license it for non-comerical purposes only.
I agree.
I haven't been able to understand the whole mmorpg thing myself. I have tried a few recently and found them to be terribly mundane. Not to mention people constantly accusing others of "kill stealing" or "greifing". To me it seems that a persons life must be extreamly boring to consider this type of interaction entertaining.
Then like I said, it is their problem and they are bringing it on themselves and as you pointed out on us. If these people had a spine, life for them would be much happier. Life is just too damned complitacted and stressful already, why make yourself miserable.
I never said people hate McDonald's. I said that people would hate having a McDonald's commercial in their game. Very different beast. As for your "whiney bullshit" stuff, your idea is just a byproduct of an overly simplistic thought process.
Sorry, I miss-read the thing about McD's.
As far as over-simple. I completly disagree. A person would have to be completly daft to continue to pay for something they are so un-happy with. And as far as being intimidated, my god how do these people get by day to day if they can't say "No, I don't like this and will not pay for it." Whats the thing worse that can happen, the big Corp wont sell them a product they don't like anyway?
Sorry to disagree or as you call it oversimplify but, it is extreamly simple to me. I don't like a product, I'm getting a refund and / or will stop paying the monthly dues.
The sad fact is that the majority probably does hate the McDonald reference, but puts up with it anyway. Do you realize the huge, enormous number of Windows users that detest all the crap sitting in their system tray popping up at them at random times? Do you think they keep quiet because they like those interruptions, or because they're so programmed into believing that computer companies are monolithic entities that you cannot appeal to? Notice the difference in people's behavior when dealing with a small, local shop and a large corporation. With the small shop, the feel like they can change things. If the service isn't up to standards, they'll complain quite loudly. With a large corporation, they get this feeling that they're irrelevent, and no amount of customer feedback will do any good. Thus, they'll bend over and take everything the company wants to give them.
To put it nicely, I simply don't belive you. If so many people hated McDonald as you assert, why then are they still in business? There are *lots* of alternatives yet McDonalds sticks around. I personaly don't care fir their food, I prefer burgers with more beef on them.
As for your other examples..if someone hates something then they simply need to stop using/buying. Complaining otherwise is just whinney bullshit. I am tired of the whinney ass people complaing that they can't do anything about it yet continue to line up for it. PLEASE..these people deserve everything they get.
There are no laws aginst peacfull protest and ralies. It is when people resort to vandalism that they break the laws. Besides, do you realy some stupid and violent miscreant representing a cause.
All of you would get in an uproar if they started some heavy censorship on slashdot
Sure, there'd be an uproar and the site would eventualy die. Look what has happened to codeguru and devx. People didn't like the changes and simply stopped contributing to the sites.
And, people do have a say, if the don't want to be bombarded with said ads..they can choose not to play...it is simple.
Not buying the game is not going to change the fact that thousands of people will buy the game
What it will prove is that a vocal minorty is trying to impose their will on the majority. What makes you and your silly little McDonalds hating friends any more important than the "thousands" that do buy and enjoy the game?
If you don't like it, push off and let the others enjoy the game.
You people crack me up.
Wifey dressed in sexy nightgown: "Come to bed honey"
Adult male nerd play sims: "I can't..I just got the power-up"
I am curious, who is going to pay for the script kiddies pinging your IP?
I havent had this happen myself but, I had a co-worker who told me he was getting pinged 24hrs a day. Seems to me that this is traffic and bandwidth that the suscriber should not be responsible for.
I said Net not .net
It remids me of an old saying "You can idiot proof a system, but you cant keep the idiots off it"