Also, I will say that it sucked as an internet tablet. Crashed reading email(IMAP) crashed browsing the web...hell it even crashed browsing my webmail. And, it dropped the wifi connection all the time. Funny that. My ipaq cost roughly the same, handles IMAP, handles most of the web, and manages my contact info and todo list without crashing.
Like I said in my original post; I was excited about this product. Hell I even held onto it for an extra two weeks trying to convince myself that I liked it. But, it just couldn't get the job done even as an "Internet Tablet"
Excited, I picked one of these up about two months ago. But, I found it extremely lacking and returned it for an ipaq. Why didn't I like it?
The email app almost always crashed when accessing my imap accounts. The browser (opera if I remember correctly) had real issues with moderately complex websites. The wifi seemed very slow when using encryption. In general, it wasn't much of a pda.
On a positive note, the screen was beautiful and the movie playback was fantastic.
Your are forgetting something. This pissing contest betwean Munich and MS is costing the taxpayers lots of money. Not only are the having to license multiple products for a lot of machines, they are also paying someone to set-up the machines and also to train and support the end users.
The ideal is reasonable, but my personal opinion is that they are stuck paying up after MS called their bluff.
"No amount of money spent on the Microsoft deal will allow them the level of choice they have now."
A reasonable idea but, you still need to pay for the terminal services licensing as well as rely on a fairly new (read as untested in the business world) client to run your legacy apps.
At $80 per head this is almost adding insult to injury. It looks to me like this is a classic case of looking before they lept and now they are backpeadling as hard as they can to save face.
Most likely GSX for the desktop app needs.
ESX is more for reducing TCO for enterprise datacenters.
The cost per 2 seats for GSX is $2,500.
I'd imagine they are getting at least a 20% discount for buying 5k+ seats worth but it just dosent make business sense to me.
If I were a tax payer in Munich I'd be extreamly pissed off that that they wasted soo much money. Rember, they are not just buying VMware, they are also purchasing SuSE and paying someone (IBM I belive) to set this mess up, & they have to train an untold number of users.
There is noo way that this is cost effective. I imagine that they are getting a huge discount from VMware but they still need to train the non-tech users and install/maintain not only linux but VMware and the windows guest OS image. Not to mention that you need so fairly serious hardware to get a decently usable guest OS.
I am just curious why a moderator would mod this as flamebait. I mean everything I said and the moderitor is obiviously not or never been a professional.
To those of you whinney people who lament that "I have to work these slave hours, it's a bad economy" I say thanks for setting techinical professionals back a couple of decades.
I am so tired of hearing you aholes whine and yet do it anyway. Hear is an idea, try living below your means so you can be prepared for a situatiuon like this. If you are going to decide to work as a slave for these people then stick with you decision and stop whining like little girls.
It is a shame thay you will give up you life for a little bit of money.
"Is there some other remedy whereby companies can protect themselves from employees suddenly departing?"
How about providing your employees with an enviorment that they won't want to leave?
I can personaly atteste to this. At one of my jobs management began lieing and not being open with the employees and our entire (origional) dev team left the company in under a year. The company eventuly went under. Not because the employees were being greedy, we were just sick of the bullshit.
"You agree at hire-time that the company can require binding arbitration upon departure and re-hire..."
Perhaps the employer should pay this cost if they are they ones concerned.
This "give me, give me, give me" attitude is exactly what has prevented me from getting involved in open source software. I am always shocked at the audacity of some end-users who aggressively request this feature or this bug-fix. I put in 50+ hours a week cutting code professionally while dealing with demanding PHBs an unrealistic deadlines; no way I will do it for free.
What about the chance that the contract may be illegal?
Then challange the contract and have a court determine if it is illegal. Just because you think it is dosen't make it illegal. Untill that happens, all you have is an opinion.
I agree with you. What cracks me up is that all of the replys are excuses. You agreed to a contract didn't you; just because you don't agree with the ethics dosent mean you are right by violating the terms.
I think people would like sci-fi more if someone really made something that is actually good. I try to check out as much sci-fi as I can and most is just garbage (sorry I lump FireFly in that category).
If the networks want a good sci-fi series maybe they should find someone besides the creator of crap like Buffy. Most of these shows are good tries but they meander endlessly.
Mabey because we owned them outright before we got married and moved here. I don't know about you but I don't buy anything that I can't pay for outrigt(except a house of course). Why should I emerse myself in debt when I have a 95' Jeep with less than 60K miles on it. BTW stop being a Jackass, If you are going to flame at least be a man about it.
The other posters cost for insurance seems reasonable. Between my wife and I, our combined insurance is roughly $1,200/year. And, it would have been cheaper if my wife hadn't had an accident a few years ago. This is living Dallas driving a Wrangler and a Forerunner. Sounds to me like you are being screwed or, are just a bad driver:)
And the only wait we'll win this battle is to use Debian.
I would agree with you except, I just dont like Unix / Linux for a lot of task. I am not saying that sucks...I just dont like it. How about something else? Is their any other vialble free OS that is Unix based (or like for that matter)that can get the job?
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You sir/madame are correct.
Also, I will say that it sucked as an internet tablet. Crashed reading email(IMAP) crashed browsing the web...hell it even crashed browsing my webmail. And, it dropped the wifi connection all the time. Funny that. My ipaq cost roughly the same, handles IMAP, handles most of the web, and manages my contact info and todo list without crashing.
Like I said in my original post; I was excited about this product. Hell I even held onto it for an extra two weeks trying to convince myself that I liked it. But, it just couldn't get the job done even as an "Internet Tablet"
Excited, I picked one of these up about two months ago. But, I found it extremely lacking and returned it for an ipaq. Why didn't I like it? The email app almost always crashed when accessing my imap accounts. The browser (opera if I remember correctly) had real issues with moderately complex websites. The wifi seemed very slow when using encryption. In general, it wasn't much of a pda. On a positive note, the screen was beautiful and the movie playback was fantastic.
Your are forgetting something. This pissing contest betwean Munich and MS is costing the taxpayers lots of money. Not only are the having to license multiple products for a lot of machines, they are also paying someone to set-up the machines and also to train and support the end users.
The ideal is reasonable, but my personal opinion is that they are stuck paying up after MS called their bluff.
"No amount of money spent on the Microsoft deal will allow them the level of choice they have now."
Did the taxpayers get any choice in this?
"Makes you wonder where OpenOffice will be a year from now?"
Still chasing MS.Office
rdesktop.
A reasonable idea but, you still need to pay for the terminal services licensing as well as rely on a fairly new (read as untested in the business world) client to run your legacy apps.
At $80 per head this is almost adding insult to injury. It looks to me like this is a classic case of looking before they lept and now they are backpeadling as hard as they can to save face.
Note: I am just guessing number for use of GSX Server. If it was all Workstation it would be roughly $300 / seat.
Most likely GSX for the desktop app needs. ESX is more for reducing TCO for enterprise datacenters. The cost per 2 seats for GSX is $2,500. I'd imagine they are getting at least a 20% discount for buying 5k+ seats worth but it just dosent make business sense to me. If I were a tax payer in Munich I'd be extreamly pissed off that that they wasted soo much money. Rember, they are not just buying VMware, they are also purchasing SuSE and paying someone (IBM I belive) to set this mess up, & they have to train an untold number of users.
Yes!
There is noo way that this is cost effective.
I imagine that they are getting a huge discount from VMware but they still need to train the non-tech users and install/maintain not only linux but VMware and the windows guest OS image. Not to mention that you need so fairly serious hardware to get a decently usable guest OS.
Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!
I am just curious why a moderator would mod this as flamebait. I mean everything I said and the moderitor is obiviously not or never been a professional.
To those of you whinney people who lament that "I have to work these slave hours, it's a bad economy" I say thanks for setting techinical professionals back a couple of decades.
I am so tired of hearing you aholes whine and yet do it anyway. Hear is an idea, try living below your means so you can be prepared for a situatiuon like this. If you are going to decide to work as a slave for these people then stick with you decision and stop whining like little girls.
It is a shame thay you will give up you life for a little bit of money.
Yeah, I'm bitter.
Years ago I was unknowlingly part of a mass departure from a company.
The co. I worked for at the time was generaly screwing over everybody on our team and each and every one of us were looking for new positions.
It just happened that 18 of 20 person team that had developed and supported the co's core product jumped ship in a 5 week period.
The company was never able to recover and went belly up. That gave me far more satisfaction that a childish tantranum could ever had.
"Is there some other remedy whereby companies can protect themselves from employees suddenly departing?"
How about providing your employees with an enviorment that they won't want to leave?
I can personaly atteste to this. At one of my jobs management began lieing and not being open with the employees and our entire (origional) dev team left the company in under a year. The company eventuly went under. Not because the employees were being greedy, we were just sick of the bullshit.
"You agree at hire-time that the company can require binding arbitration upon departure and re-hire..."
Perhaps the employer should pay this cost if they are they ones concerned.
This "give me, give me, give me" attitude is exactly what has prevented me from getting involved in open source software. I am always shocked at the audacity of some end-users who aggressively request this feature or this bug-fix. I put in 50+ hours a week cutting code professionally while dealing with demanding PHBs an unrealistic deadlines; no way I will do it for free.
I was/am on the beta. I find it terribly boring like every other mmorpg that I have played. I think I just don't like the genera.
What about the chance that the contract may be illegal?
Then challange the contract and have a court determine if it is illegal. Just because you think it is dosen't make it illegal. Untill that happens, all you have is an opinion.
I agree with you. What cracks me up is that all of the replys are excuses. You agreed to a contract didn't you; just because you don't agree with the ethics dosent mean you are right by violating the terms.
I'm an independent contractor and I really (at this moment) can't see myself buying into any company enough to join on and get long-term benefits.
I think people would like sci-fi more if someone really made something that is actually good. I try to check out as much sci-fi as I can and most is just garbage (sorry I lump FireFly in that category).
If the networks want a good sci-fi series maybe they should find someone besides the creator of crap like Buffy. Most of these shows are good tries but they meander endlessly.
but we can hope
Mabey because we owned them outright before we got married and moved here. I don't know about you but I don't buy anything that I can't pay for outrigt(except a house of course). Why should I emerse myself in debt when I have a 95' Jeep with less than 60K miles on it.
BTW stop being a Jackass, If you are going to flame at least be a man about it.
The other posters cost for insurance seems reasonable. :)
Between my wife and I, our combined insurance is roughly $1,200/year. And, it would have been cheaper if my wife hadn't had an accident a few years ago. This is living Dallas driving a Wrangler and a Forerunner. Sounds to me like you are being screwed or, are just a bad driver
And the only wait we'll win this battle is to use Debian.
I would agree with you except, I just dont like Unix / Linux for a lot of task. I am not saying that sucks...I just dont like it. How about something else? Is their any other vialble free OS that is Unix based (or like for that matter)that can get the job?
So, is it not possible to just go out a purchase a chip and drop it in? Or is this the only way to do it yourself?
Come on spill.....
How much dit it cost?
So does lindows suck? I'm curious seems like everone just puts a new os on the boxes.