If an Indian company were to train its employees, it would not have to look beyond the Indian shores. If it were to train employees on something specific and let the employees get acquainted with the US team or US based customers, it would use B1 visa.
But, the data used in arriving at the incorrect inference seems credible. Indian services companies e.g. TCS, Infosys, Wipro and CTS do use H1 visas to send entry/mid-level programmers to the US. These programmers generally stay in the US for at least five years. Many of them go on to get green cards.
Indians xenophobic! Your post is all about FUD and your posts being marked as insightful can happen only @ Slashdot. When it comes to India, Slashdot users are at their xenophobic best.
Indians are not a cohesive lot. They are too busy earning for the next day/month to have the time for Xenophobia. Yes, Indian companies have been afraid of competition for some time. Some have reformed in the last five years and have awarded deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars to American companies. But even now, India ranks high in the number of anti dumping investigations it carries out. The Government owned BSNL which is the largest telecom company and some other big telecom/ISP players with considerable political clout seem to be behind this draconian proposal to make VOIP illegal.
And finally you Slashdot editors; do show some signs that you have some brain by not ranking absolute trash as insightful just because Indians have stolen some American jobs.
Man, you are such a pig-headed idiot. Go through your earlier post. A portion of it reads
"we should have paid attention when India and Pakistani scientists were willing to sell them to anyone a decade ago.". My post was in response to that.
Now, go through my earlier post. In 1974 (not 1998), India used a reactor of Canadian make to test a plutonium bomb. 24 years later India conducted a second series of tests.
A word of advice. Before you display your moronic arrogance again, get an education at least for your next generation and before you rush to reply to this, go through this mail ten times to make sure that you get it.
India a proliferator! You must be smoking something serious.
The list of proliferators (source->destination) goes thus
US->UK USSR->China China->Pakistan Pakistan+China->North Korea Pakistan->Iran
India (mis)used a reactor supplied by Canada to generate plutonium that was used in its first nuclear test way back in 1974.
The US which has conducted the most number of nuclear tests and puny UK and France, US stooges Japan and Australia have no right to complain about proliferation. If the US is so concerned about proliferation, it must acknowledge that it is the one who started it all and give up its stockpile and the world will follow suit.
Don't mod this down unless you are smoking something more serious. Do some googling and you will realize that India is not in the same league as proliferators US, USSR, China and Pakistan.
I am a software engineer from India, with quite a few years in the software industry with a voracious apetite for news pertaining to world economics/IT trends/physics/medicine etc. I currently work for an American MNC, a technology leader, at its India office.
Mr. Stein's article contains a lot of facts the Americans must ponder over and I think their implementation will help stem the rot of American culture greatly. But it and the subsequent remarks by fellow slashdotters do have some factual incrorectness about them. This remark refers to comments on the "technological edge" and the "immigrants".
America does have a "technology edge", if we consider the seer number of Nobel prizes the Americans have won, the sophistication of the American arsenal, the kind of animation that hollywood churns. Yes, there is a lot of hype about many of their achievements, Nobel prizes too can be manipulated, their technologial superiority gets magnified hugely by the combined efforts of their media and their armed forces. But keeping all that aside, if we try to gauge the number innovations coming out of the US, the number of new ideas that that country has produced in the last century, there is an overwhelming feeling that America has been the heart that pumps not only money, but also technology throughout the world (It has pumped more than its fair share of destruction also).
I attribute the American edge to two factors, "freedom to think" and "freedom to enjoy a decent life" even though you are an immigrant in the US. This has helped America become the beacon of bleeding edge technology that it is today. Most of the technological advances by Americans in the last century have the immigrant Europeans, the Japanese, the Chinese and to some extent the Indians behind them.
The kind of labour that is handed out to the IT operations flourishing in India is yesterday's technology. Even if the Americans were to manufacture the space shuttle in India, they would have little to loose. Because the space shuttle is 25 years old. Today's technology e.g. nano-technology, inter planetary missions, JSF, LASER beams that can destroy an incoming missile in mid-flight, sustainable fusion, quantum computing etc. will take more than 25 years to come to India and the Indians are in no mood to play catch-up.
The American technological edge will continue to exist till the Americans continue to use their brains, till they continue to embrace and till they have the hunger to learn.
Slashdot Mirror
The Business Week article misinterprets data.
If an Indian company were to train its employees, it would not have to look beyond the Indian shores. If it were to train employees on something specific and let the employees get acquainted with the US team or US based customers, it would use B1 visa.
But, the data used in arriving at the incorrect inference seems credible. Indian services companies e.g. TCS, Infosys, Wipro and CTS do use H1 visas to send entry/mid-level programmers to the US. These programmers generally stay in the US for at least five years. Many of them go on to get green cards.
It is a pity that the parent gets only 5. I think it should get at least 500 if it were possible.
Indians xenophobic! Your post is all about FUD and your posts being marked as insightful can happen only @ Slashdot. When it comes to India, Slashdot users are at their xenophobic best.
Indians are not a cohesive lot. They are too busy earning for the next day/month to have the time for Xenophobia. Yes, Indian companies have been afraid of competition for some time. Some have reformed in the last five years and have awarded deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars to American companies. But even now, India ranks high in the number of anti dumping investigations it carries out. The Government owned BSNL which is the largest telecom company and some other big telecom/ISP players with considerable political clout seem to be behind this draconian proposal to make VOIP illegal.
And finally you Slashdot editors; do show some signs that you have some brain by not ranking absolute trash as insightful just because Indians have stolen some American jobs.
The point is that you do not have a point and hence are resorting to profanity. You know that more than anybody else.
Be a man/woman and not a coward. If you misrepresented some facts, accept it. A thousand lies can't bury the fact that India never proliferated.
Man, you are such a pig-headed idiot. Go through your earlier post. A portion of it reads
"we should have paid attention when India and Pakistani scientists were willing to sell them to anyone a decade ago.". My post was in response to that.
Now, go through my earlier post. In 1974 (not 1998), India used a reactor of Canadian make to test a plutonium bomb. 24 years later India conducted a second series of tests.
A word of advice. Before you display your moronic arrogance again, get an education at least for your next generation and before you rush to reply to this, go through this mail ten times to make sure that you get it.
India a proliferator! You must be smoking something serious.
The list of proliferators (source->destination) goes thus
US->UK
USSR->China
China->Pakistan
Pakistan+China->North Korea
Pakistan->Iran
India (mis)used a reactor supplied by Canada to generate plutonium that was used in its first nuclear test way back in 1974.
The US which has conducted the most number of nuclear tests and puny UK and France, US stooges Japan and Australia have no right to complain about proliferation. If the US is so concerned about proliferation, it must acknowledge that it is the one who started it all and give up its stockpile and the world will follow suit.
Don't mod this down unless you are smoking something more serious. Do some googling and you will realize that India is not in the same league as proliferators US, USSR, China and Pakistan.
I am a software engineer from India, with quite a few years in the software industry with a voracious apetite for news pertaining to world economics/IT trends/physics/medicine etc. I currently work for an American MNC, a technology leader, at its India office.
Mr. Stein's article contains a lot of facts the Americans must ponder over and I think their implementation will help stem the rot of American culture greatly. But it and the subsequent remarks by fellow slashdotters do have some factual incrorectness about them. This remark refers to comments on the "technological edge" and the "immigrants".
America does have a "technology edge", if we consider the seer number of Nobel prizes the Americans have won, the sophistication of the American arsenal, the kind of animation that hollywood churns. Yes, there is a lot of hype about many of their achievements, Nobel prizes too can be manipulated, their technologial superiority gets magnified hugely by the combined efforts of their media and their armed forces. But keeping all that aside, if we try to gauge the number innovations coming out of the US, the number of new ideas that that country has produced in the last century, there is an overwhelming feeling that America has been the heart that pumps not only money, but also technology throughout the world (It has pumped more than its fair share of destruction also).
I attribute the American edge to two factors, "freedom to think" and "freedom to enjoy a decent life" even though you are an immigrant in the US. This has helped America become the beacon of bleeding edge technology that it is today. Most of the technological advances by Americans in the last century have the immigrant Europeans, the Japanese, the Chinese and to some extent the Indians behind them.
The kind of labour that is handed out to the IT operations flourishing in India is yesterday's technology. Even if the Americans were to manufacture the space shuttle in India, they would have little to loose. Because the space shuttle is 25 years old. Today's technology e.g. nano-technology, inter planetary missions, JSF, LASER beams that can destroy an incoming missile in mid-flight, sustainable fusion, quantum computing etc. will take more than 25 years to come to India and the Indians are in no mood to play catch-up.
The American technological edge will continue to exist till the Americans continue to use their brains, till they continue to embrace and till they have the hunger to learn.