This is how you get modded up AND bypass the idiot filter.
"I totally agree with you. Your points are both intelligent and compelling, and I think everyone ought to look at things the way you do. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot, and it's not even worth the time to expose yourself to anything they say."
These things started off in executive space, where the extra severance for the non-compete is just par for the course.
If you're ever going to buy a business, get a long non-compete with the seller. One of my old bosses build a national business providing monitored physical security systems, sold it, waited two years, then built another one from scratch, competed directly and put the one he sold out of business.
Ballsy, admirable on some level perhaps, but not something you'd want done to you.
And you wonder why some of us might have a "chip on our shoulder".
At the time of the Second World War, all the able bodied men were ripped away from this continent, leaving their women, who previously had been supported by their mates, to fend for themselves alone for a decade. The entire female population of the continent was abandoned and forced to become hard and independent where before they were cherished and protected and supported.
Then after the war, an entire generation of men returned, shell shocked and crazy from the pain they had seen, with instincts honed to a killing edge that served no useful purpose anymore.
Feminism is the malignant, divisive perspective created by a generation of abandoned women.
So, I'm sorry. I'm a compassionate person, and I know all about why you have a chip on your shoulder. It was caused by terrible abuse on a societal scale.
You're still a lingering part of the problem though. Pain and fear are never an excuse for a malignant philosophy.
No. This guy should have the whole of his life, including the lives of his family made public knowledge. Every breath, every twitch, and every bowel movement. If he is so wrapped up in the lie that every man and his dog is entitled to do a full psychological break down of you for marketing purposes and future psychological marketing manipulation, let him and his family feel the full sting of complete public exposure.
Sounds like a great way to get rid of hypocrisy. Lets do it to everyone, all at once. Who do I vote for?
but if you really prefer to sign away your freedoms than to stay unemployed for a couple of months, then that explains why the US is so screwed up.
Anyway. I must believe you don't work in USA then, because I've never seen an IT job without a non-compete requirement in the last 13 years of my career.
The only difference between this non-compete and non-competes I've signed is their claim of ownership on new products developed after termination, however I've seen non-competes laying claim on very general things from everything created after hours to things created on your personal desktop.
First, it's a bullshit scare tactic. Second, signing doesn't mean you're signing your freedoms away. Here, if a contract violates the law, it's unenforceable regardless of your signature. And third, you really have no choice but to sign if you plan to work in USA. I suppose you could find a very small IT company that doesn't push non-competes, but it'll be hard to find that. You won't be unemployed for a "couple of months", you'll be unemployed for YEARS with that sort of search criteria.
Why do you suppose they get you to sign "non-compete" documents? It's because it's bloody easy to compete if you've got any balls. The US corporate structure is based around keeping people with confidence out, because blustery people who show their throat when they're challenged can be owned heart and soul, and that's what they want.
Of course, your attitude is very consistent with a chip-on-the-shoulder-feminist, and these sorts of power structures are heaven on earth for such, so it's not surprising you'd look at it that way.
If you really want to help out, why don't you go pop out some babies so we don't need to have our asses wiped by robot in 40 years time like the Japanese?
I've had such agreements placed before me before. I specifically demanded that they be removed, and that I have specific assurances to the contrary. One time I even got it.
I wouldn't sign such an agreement with anyone, personally. Money is too easy to find to justify indenturing yourself in such a way just for a job.
Clearly, if Google is giving all this money to Mozilla and there is danger of Google getting all the say, Microsoft ought to chuck Mozilla a billion or two to stay in the race...
Even if you weren't stealing information, unless you're a key member in the middle of an important project, there isn't much point in keeping you around to suck up pay and distract other workers water cooler style. There is a strong argument against allowing you to interact with the clients, because you're about to leave.
Personally, my employers concerns always revolved around me taking a job with their clients and competing with them rather than stealing secrets, being lazy or engaging in sabotage. When someone is paying you $30 an hour and billing you out at $150 an hour, it's a reasonable enough thing to worry about. I've gotten job offers from the clients of my employers more times than not.
Most times, when I give my two weeks notice, I get two weeks pay in lieu of notice and leave on good terms. I consider it a perfectly reasonable way to do things.
That's what they have now. That's what the guy is trying with little success to express to everyone.
The government already knows. FBI, they know. CIA, they know. Google, MS, IBM, AT&T, Visa, MasterCard, the list goes on and on.
The million dollar question is, what is wrong with people that they'd sacrifice the ability to also know what is actually going on if it will prevent the neighbour from knowing what they do with their weekends, when people are already using that same knowledge to conspire against them in the commercial sphere and in the political sphere?
Anyone able to explain this to me? It looks like an absolutely drooling-idiot kind of retarded position from where I'm sitting.
(No, I don't care if you put a webcam in my shower or jerk off to pictures of Margret Thatcher. So, don't bother asking. It's not clever like you think it is.)
Has nothing to do with the foam. The shuttle was a stupid goal from the moment of its conception.
Perhaps one shouldn't insult their intelligence. Perhaps it might be better to point out the lack of wisdom involved in the goals set.
Very smart to get that tub off the ground at all. Foolish waste of resources, lives and time to try in the first place though. Have a dunce cap, go count some matchsticks in the corner and when we need a human calculator, we'll call you.
Wouldn't it be more useful for them to spend that money designing a spacecraft that doesn't blow up half the time? If I had NASAs track record, I wouldn't be talking about rewarding smart people, because they've proven pretty well that they're not.
Great. I'll be by this evening to install all the webcams in your home and car. Some voyeurs will pay to watch anyone.
Of course, they'll be paying me, not you; just like these Facebook ads benefit it, not members.
But hey, you don't care, so why shouldn't I profit?
Property rights is an entirely different discussion.
I would love it if you could stick some wireless cameras across my neighbourhood in some sort of mesh network that I could access. Our car has been broken into twice now, same with two of my neighbours. I'd like it if we could catch the guy who did it and get him some help.
No, I'm not trolling. I give clear justifications for why I take that position, and always have. I don't know how any rational human being could possibly think that I was trolling, being that I didn't say anything even vaguely offensive to any individual or group.
Why did I get modded troll for my reasoned position, yet you got modded +5 insightful for wondering aloud if I am trolling? Because Slashdot is about politics just like everything else, and those who have opposing politics would rather gather their buddies together with anonymous posts as flag markers, then moderate those with opposing views into obscurity without ever revealing they exist.
How about we start with public spaces and details regarding the internal operation of all governmental, incorporated and non-profit organizations, and move forward from there?
I would go so far as to say that such referrals and recommendations, coupled with the capacity to gauge the character of those recommending, is all the advertising the world needs.
If the scheme were fully transparent and held by a not-for-profit group, instead of privately held and administered behind closed doors, this would be great.
Heh, you want real date-rape related trauma, go to a bar called Legends in the valley of NS. There are apparently 3 women who go there to pick people up to medicate and gang rape. Men, women, doesn't matter.
Who knows, maybe you'll become a movie star. Only justification for it I can see.
Computers do not have sexy interfaces. Neither do phones or mp3 players.
A sexy interface is pink, and moist, and warm, and throbs gently. It occasionally releases strange sounds, odd odors and fluids of various colors. It comes with no manual to operate, and apparently many people never figure them out properly, however, it is a great deal of fun to experiment with them.
I absolutely love sexy interfaces, and I'm going to go enjoy one right now.
If you'd like a sexy interface of your own, here's a hint. They doesn't come from Apple.
Fact is, deploying municipal wi-fi is damn difficult. Doubly so if you have terrain that isn't flat - and triply so outside of densely populated area. Double it _again_ if your area has any significant amount of trees. Etc... Etc...
But what do I know - I've only helped a friend as he attempted to actually engineer muni Wi-Fi for our area. Hours in the field with him measuring signal strengths and surveying line-of-sight for nodes and relays couldn't possibly have given me any insight.
Wow. That sounds incredibly difficult. You AND your friend were doing it? Damn. Ordinary measures wouldn't require you AND your friend. Usually, we just send out a road crew to dig up the roads and lay cables, or erect these big posts every hundred feet or so and hang them in the sky with cranes, then deploy a small army of people to attach them to peoples houses.
Yeah, you're real insightful. And so clever to be able to measure lines of sight and signal strengths all by yourself. That's real tricky stuff.
Two independent people on the net won't hurt each other, but if one of them represents an organization - this very well could happen.
Gee. Shadowy organizations going out hurting innocent people, that's a great argument for preserving peoples obscurity. Of course, the shadowy organization couldn't operate without obscurity, but lets be reasonable. My moms retirement money is in that shadowy organization, we can't interfere with that...
As far as I'm concerned, privacy is for liars and conspirators.
I don't know which is more appropriate:
+5 Batshit Insane
or
+5 Awesome Satire
As far as I'm personally concerned, it has to do with having integrity, and actually wanting to wear that integrity on the outside.
On the larger scale, I resent being obligated to assist those who have demonstrated that they have no integrity with the fruits of my labours because society is engineered to prevent me from judging a person by the quality of their character.
I want to be able to accurately say "No. You might be a good businessman or a smooth talker, but you're a fucking scumbag, and I'm not going to help your enterprise succeed."
But hey, a lot of my friends think I'm batshit insane, so that's probably the right one.
Towns and cities can do this easily. It's so easy that it's trivial.
It's so easy that people deployed it themselves in disaster relief scenarios despite opposition from the government, rebellious little municipalities with practically no budget deployed it themselves, hell, soldiers are able to drop a bunch of little scurrying robots and set up a wireless mesh network in a blasted urban war zone.
The technology renders large amounts of infrastructure obsolete, turns the technology into a piece of infrastructure no different from roads and sewage, and makes some very profitable businesses defunct.
This is why established businesses oppose it and politicians are paid to prevent it. That's pretty much the sum of it.
If you don't want people to know about it, don't do it. If you're going to do it, don't expect us to stick our heads in the sands just to help you out.
As far as I'm concerned, privacy is for liars and conspirators. I don't want anyone to have it, and I like the way that people are slippery sloping to the point where this illusion is too unbelievable to bother continuing to maintain.
I don't agree with you. I think the robbery is a very risky venture only generally perpetuated by those who are cripplingly poor and incredibly desperate, while corruption is a crime perpetuated by those who are pampered, occupy positions of power and trust, and act ruthlessly in order to benefit themselves.
We are fortunate in this case that their character has been revealed before they connived enough wealth to defend themselves better in court, and they ought to be punished in a fashion that utterly cripples their socio-economic development permanently.
The best way to deal with them now is to ensure that they never have more power in life than they need to handle blowing their noses.
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This is how you get modded up AND bypass the idiot filter.
"I totally agree with you. Your points are both intelligent and compelling, and I think everyone ought to look at things the way you do. Anyone who disagrees is an idiot, and it's not even worth the time to expose yourself to anything they say."
These things started off in executive space, where the extra severance for the non-compete is just par for the course.
If you're ever going to buy a business, get a long non-compete with the seller. One of my old bosses build a national business providing monitored physical security systems, sold it, waited two years, then built another one from scratch, competed directly and put the one he sold out of business.
Ballsy, admirable on some level perhaps, but not something you'd want done to you.
And you wonder why some of us might have a "chip on our shoulder".
At the time of the Second World War, all the able bodied men were ripped away from this continent, leaving their women, who previously had been supported by their mates, to fend for themselves alone for a decade. The entire female population of the continent was abandoned and forced to become hard and independent where before they were cherished and protected and supported.
Then after the war, an entire generation of men returned, shell shocked and crazy from the pain they had seen, with instincts honed to a killing edge that served no useful purpose anymore.
Feminism is the malignant, divisive perspective created by a generation of abandoned women.
So, I'm sorry. I'm a compassionate person, and I know all about why you have a chip on your shoulder. It was caused by terrible abuse on a societal scale.
You're still a lingering part of the problem though. Pain and fear are never an excuse for a malignant philosophy.
No. This guy should have the whole of his life, including the lives of his family made public knowledge. Every breath, every twitch, and every bowel movement. If he is so wrapped up in the lie that every man and his dog is entitled to do a full psychological break down of you for marketing purposes and future psychological marketing manipulation, let him and his family feel the full sting of complete public exposure.
Sounds like a great way to get rid of hypocrisy. Lets do it to everyone, all at once. Who do I vote for?
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God, I hate that. It's she.
but if you really prefer to sign away your freedoms than to stay unemployed for a couple of months, then that explains why the US is so screwed up.
Anyway. I must believe you don't work in USA then, because I've never seen an IT job without a non-compete requirement in the last 13 years of my career.
The only difference between this non-compete and non-competes I've signed is their claim of ownership on new products developed after termination, however I've seen non-competes laying claim on very general things from everything created after hours to things created on your personal desktop. First, it's a bullshit scare tactic. Second, signing doesn't mean you're signing your freedoms away. Here, if a contract violates the law, it's unenforceable regardless of your signature. And third, you really have no choice but to sign if you plan to work in USA. I suppose you could find a very small IT company that doesn't push non-competes, but it'll be hard to find that. You won't be unemployed for a "couple of months", you'll be unemployed for YEARS with that sort of search criteria.
Why do you suppose they get you to sign "non-compete" documents? It's because it's bloody easy to compete if you've got any balls. The US corporate structure is based around keeping people with confidence out, because blustery people who show their throat when they're challenged can be owned heart and soul, and that's what they want.
Of course, your attitude is very consistent with a chip-on-the-shoulder-feminist, and these sorts of power structures are heaven on earth for such, so it's not surprising you'd look at it that way.
If you really want to help out, why don't you go pop out some babies so we don't need to have our asses wiped by robot in 40 years time like the Japanese?
I've had such agreements placed before me before. I specifically demanded that they be removed, and that I have specific assurances to the contrary. One time I even got it.
I wouldn't sign such an agreement with anyone, personally. Money is too easy to find to justify indenturing yourself in such a way just for a job.
Clearly, if Google is giving all this money to Mozilla and there is danger of Google getting all the say, Microsoft ought to chuck Mozilla a billion or two to stay in the race...
Even if you weren't stealing information, unless you're a key member in the middle of an important project, there isn't much point in keeping you around to suck up pay and distract other workers water cooler style. There is a strong argument against allowing you to interact with the clients, because you're about to leave.
Personally, my employers concerns always revolved around me taking a job with their clients and competing with them rather than stealing secrets, being lazy or engaging in sabotage. When someone is paying you $30 an hour and billing you out at $150 an hour, it's a reasonable enough thing to worry about. I've gotten job offers from the clients of my employers more times than not.
Most times, when I give my two weeks notice, I get two weeks pay in lieu of notice and leave on good terms. I consider it a perfectly reasonable way to do things.
That's what they have now. That's what the guy is trying with little success to express to everyone.
The government already knows. FBI, they know. CIA, they know. Google, MS, IBM, AT&T, Visa, MasterCard, the list goes on and on.
The million dollar question is, what is wrong with people that they'd sacrifice the ability to also know what is actually going on if it will prevent the neighbour from knowing what they do with their weekends, when people are already using that same knowledge to conspire against them in the commercial sphere and in the political sphere?
Anyone able to explain this to me? It looks like an absolutely drooling-idiot kind of retarded position from where I'm sitting.
(No, I don't care if you put a webcam in my shower or jerk off to pictures of Margret Thatcher. So, don't bother asking. It's not clever like you think it is.)
Has nothing to do with the foam. The shuttle was a stupid goal from the moment of its conception.
Perhaps one shouldn't insult their intelligence. Perhaps it might be better to point out the lack of wisdom involved in the goals set.
Very smart to get that tub off the ground at all. Foolish waste of resources, lives and time to try in the first place though. Have a dunce cap, go count some matchsticks in the corner and when we need a human calculator, we'll call you.
Better?
Wouldn't it be more useful for them to spend that money designing a spacecraft that doesn't blow up half the time? If I had NASAs track record, I wouldn't be talking about rewarding smart people, because they've proven pretty well that they're not.
Privacy is overrated. We should ditch it.
Great. I'll be by this evening to install all the webcams in your home and car. Some voyeurs will pay to watch anyone.
Of course, they'll be paying me, not you; just like these Facebook ads benefit it, not members.
But hey, you don't care, so why shouldn't I profit?
Property rights is an entirely different discussion.
I would love it if you could stick some wireless cameras across my neighbourhood in some sort of mesh network that I could access. Our car has been broken into twice now, same with two of my neighbours. I'd like it if we could catch the guy who did it and get him some help.
Or is that not sexy enough for you?
No, I'm not trolling. I give clear justifications for why I take that position, and always have. I don't know how any rational human being could possibly think that I was trolling, being that I didn't say anything even vaguely offensive to any individual or group.
Why did I get modded troll for my reasoned position, yet you got modded +5 insightful for wondering aloud if I am trolling? Because Slashdot is about politics just like everything else, and those who have opposing politics would rather gather their buddies together with anonymous posts as flag markers, then moderate those with opposing views into obscurity without ever revealing they exist.
Kind of a microcosm of the real world.
How about we start with public spaces and details regarding the internal operation of all governmental, incorporated and non-profit organizations, and move forward from there?
I would go so far as to say that such referrals and recommendations, coupled with the capacity to gauge the character of those recommending, is all the advertising the world needs.
If the scheme were fully transparent and held by a not-for-profit group, instead of privately held and administered behind closed doors, this would be great.
Privacy is overrated. We should ditch it.
Heh, you want real date-rape related trauma, go to a bar called Legends in the valley of NS. There are apparently 3 women who go there to pick people up to medicate and gang rape. Men, women, doesn't matter.
Who knows, maybe you'll become a movie star. Only justification for it I can see.
Creepy shit GHB.
Just to clear this up for everyone:
Computers do not have sexy interfaces. Neither do phones or mp3 players.
A sexy interface is pink, and moist, and warm, and throbs gently. It occasionally releases strange sounds, odd odors and fluids of various colors. It comes with no manual to operate, and apparently many people never figure them out properly, however, it is a great deal of fun to experiment with them.
I absolutely love sexy interfaces, and I'm going to go enjoy one right now.
If you'd like a sexy interface of your own, here's a hint. They doesn't come from Apple.
Fact is, deploying municipal wi-fi is damn difficult. Doubly so if you have terrain that isn't flat - and triply so outside of densely populated area. Double it _again_ if your area has any significant amount of trees. Etc... Etc...
But what do I know - I've only helped a friend as he attempted to actually engineer muni Wi-Fi for our area. Hours in the field with him measuring signal strengths and surveying line-of-sight for nodes and relays couldn't possibly have given me any insight.
Wow. That sounds incredibly difficult. You AND your friend were doing it? Damn. Ordinary measures wouldn't require you AND your friend. Usually, we just send out a road crew to dig up the roads and lay cables, or erect these big posts every hundred feet or so and hang them in the sky with cranes, then deploy a small army of people to attach them to peoples houses.
Yeah, you're real insightful. And so clever to be able to measure lines of sight and signal strengths all by yourself. That's real tricky stuff.
Have a biscuit!
Two independent people on the net won't hurt each other, but if one of them represents an organization - this very well could happen.
Gee. Shadowy organizations going out hurting innocent people, that's a great argument for preserving peoples obscurity. Of course, the shadowy organization couldn't operate without obscurity, but lets be reasonable. My moms retirement money is in that shadowy organization, we can't interfere with that...
I've been playing a fair bit of OpenArena:
http://openarena.ws/?about
Open sourced Quake III code with new models and textures and whatnot.
Battle for Wesnoth is a good networked turn-based strategy game, my girlfriend likes it too.
http://www.wesnoth.org/
Zombies is a fun single player game that's open source (Windows and Mac only):
http://www.codenautics.com/zombies/
For anyone who liked Tron, there's a maddeningly difficult game called Armagetron Advanced that lets you race the bikes:
http://www.armagetronad.net/
There's a good list of open source games for windows here:
http://osswin.sourceforge.net/games.html
And a big list of general open source games over on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games
They're not Flash games, but they're Free.
As far as I'm concerned, privacy is for liars and conspirators.
I don't know which is more appropriate:
+5 Batshit Insane
or
+5 Awesome Satire
As far as I'm personally concerned, it has to do with having integrity, and actually wanting to wear that integrity on the outside.
On the larger scale, I resent being obligated to assist those who have demonstrated that they have no integrity with the fruits of my labours because society is engineered to prevent me from judging a person by the quality of their character.
I want to be able to accurately say "No. You might be a good businessman or a smooth talker, but you're a fucking scumbag, and I'm not going to help your enterprise succeed."
But hey, a lot of my friends think I'm batshit insane, so that's probably the right one.
Towns and cities can do this easily. It's so easy that it's trivial.
It's so easy that people deployed it themselves in disaster relief scenarios despite opposition from the government, rebellious little municipalities with practically no budget deployed it themselves, hell, soldiers are able to drop a bunch of little scurrying robots and set up a wireless mesh network in a blasted urban war zone.
The technology renders large amounts of infrastructure obsolete, turns the technology into a piece of infrastructure no different from roads and sewage, and makes some very profitable businesses defunct.
This is why established businesses oppose it and politicians are paid to prevent it. That's pretty much the sum of it.
If you don't want people to know about it, don't do it. If you're going to do it, don't expect us to stick our heads in the sands just to help you out.
As far as I'm concerned, privacy is for liars and conspirators. I don't want anyone to have it, and I like the way that people are slippery sloping to the point where this illusion is too unbelievable to bother continuing to maintain.
This is a good thing.
I don't agree with you. I think the robbery is a very risky venture only generally perpetuated by those who are cripplingly poor and incredibly desperate, while corruption is a crime perpetuated by those who are pampered, occupy positions of power and trust, and act ruthlessly in order to benefit themselves.
We are fortunate in this case that their character has been revealed before they connived enough wealth to defend themselves better in court, and they ought to be punished in a fashion that utterly cripples their socio-economic development permanently.
The best way to deal with them now is to ensure that they never have more power in life than they need to handle blowing their noses.
We protect children from things that may damage them because we don't believe that they have the maturity to trust their own judgement.
Wasn't the public education system created to protect people from their parents?